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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 02 2017 18:55 GMT
#1661
On August 03 2017 03:44 beentheredonethat wrote:
So. Here are my reads:

Town: Koshi, darthfoley, Damdred, rsoultin, VayneAuthority
(yes that's Damdred up there with rsoultin. Let's see if it holds up. No I can't explain this read, it's like EUREKA.)



Scum:
Ruxxar
CopCake


Rest:
Tumblewood
Rels
Holyflare
Superbia
Conversion


no particular order


You think I'm scum with copcake?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 02 2017 18:55 GMT
#1662
On August 03 2017 03:52 Holyflare wrote:
У меня была ДВА ПОЛОЖЕНИЯ ОГРАНИЧЕНИЯ НА МЕНЯ.

ПОЧЕМУ НЕТ НИКАКОГО ПРИЗНАНИЯ?

КАК Я МАФИЯ ЛЮБЛЮ ИЛИ ГОРОД, КОТОРЫЙ ПОЛУЧИЛ 3P И MAFIA В ОДНОМ ВРЕМЕНИ.

HF yelling at people in Caps probably means he's town
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 02 2017 18:55 GMT
#1663
On August 03 2017 03:52 Holyflare wrote:
У меня была ДВА ПОЛОЖЕНИЯ ОГРАНИЧЕНИЯ НА МЕНЯ.

ПОЧЕМУ НЕТ НИКАКОГО ПРИЗНАНИЯ?

КАК Я МАФИЯ ЛЮБЛЮ ИЛИ ГОРОД, КОТОРЫЙ ПОЛУЧИЛ 3P И MAFIA В ОДНОМ ВРЕМЕНИ.

Я думаю, что торт тоже хорош. Конвертер просто удивил меня. Он не самый злой для меня.

Можем ли мы просто убить темную фольгу из-за досады? Вероятно, он тоже злой. Двойной выигрыш.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 02 2017 18:56 GMT
#1664
On August 03 2017 03:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 03:52 Holyflare wrote:
У меня была ДВА ПОЛОЖЕНИЯ ОГРАНИЧЕНИЯ НА МЕНЯ.

ПОЧЕМУ НЕТ НИКАКОГО ПРИЗНАНИЯ?

КАК Я МАФИЯ ЛЮБЛЮ ИЛИ ГОРОД, КОТОРЫЙ ПОЛУЧИЛ 3P И MAFIA В ОДНОМ ВРЕМЕНИ.

HF yelling at people in Caps probably means he's town

Раздраженный тем, что его игнорируют в течение нескольких дней.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 02 2017 18:57 GMT
#1665
On August 03 2017 03:55 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 03:44 beentheredonethat wrote:
So. Here are my reads:

Town: Koshi, darthfoley, Damdred, rsoultin, VayneAuthority
(yes that's Damdred up there with rsoultin. Let's see if it holds up. No I can't explain this read, it's like EUREKA.)



Scum:
Ruxxar
CopCake


Rest:
Tumblewood
Rels
Holyflare
Superbia
Conversion


no particular order


You think I'm scum with copcake?


On August 03 2017 03:48 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 03:47 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 03:46 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 03 2017 03:44 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 03:31 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 03 2017 03:29 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 03:26 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 03 2017 03:21 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 03:04 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 02 2017 19:40 ruXxar wrote:
[quote]

I had the exact opposite reaction to his EOD.

Felt like he just wanted to lynch anything he could.
His reaction to tictock "who is against lynching tictock" was forced and scummy.
Also the shenanigans seemed very forced and random.

Question for HF and Rsoul, is there any way to prevent the spreading of the russian disease?

It's a really shitty game mechanic(fuuuu rayn), so if there some way to stop it or reverse it, I'll do anything in my power to do so.

Felt like he just wanted to lynch anything he could.

??? How can it "feel" like that when I said LITERALLY that I'm fine with Damdred and Tictock and NOT FINE with DF? How is that random? How is that "lynch anything he could"? I was there at EoD and I tried to determine which lynch would be better since I was/am certain that DF is not scum, so I evaluated Damdred and Tictock. How can it be that I left the impression of being absolutely random in my lynch targets?

Also the shenanigans seemed very forced and random.
if you actually read my EoD, you can clearly see that my shennanies on CopCake came as a direct reaction to his play and to me thinking that TT will flip town because nobody answered my question about who is actually opposing the TT lynch.

It wasn't a surprise that TT was town but even in retrospect I think it was the correct move.


You forgot that you wanted to lynch HF?

I didn't want to lynch HF. I wanted (kinda want) to remove him from the game. It's absolutely annoying to have someone talk in an unreadable way, especially when on mobile.

Lynch != Removal. Lynch = I case him, I think he's flipping scum. Removal = get this guy out of the game because it's annoying as fuck to play with russian letters.

On August 02 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
Actually let's lynch Holyflare

1. the russian stuff is super weird
2. if the russian stuff is mod-induced, it still sucks
3. "contributions"
4. in no way he's doing what town HF is doing normally
5. all the discussions are without HF although he's in a game

woa that's actually a decent case.

I hope you realize the seriousness in that case. I hope you see the big effort I put in. I hope you realize that the part you bolded acknowledges the sheer amount of work I put in to build that "case" and I hope my follow up posts in the context of that case show how hard I tried to lynch Holyflare all day long.

Or, you shut the fuck up and go back to imdumbCountry because that's clearly where you're trying to flee from right now


Classy coming from the "stop calling me bad" dude. Sweet irony.

You're right. That was unnecessary.
Shame it was planned: the fact that you're poking on that instead of actually responding to what I say makes it pretty obvious that you're scum trying to tilt me .


I'm trying to tilt you because it makes you show your true colors, making you easier to read.

That's an outright lie.

Ruxxar, you have asked me a lot of things now. I have answered all of them. Can you please give a conclusion and build a case on why I am scum or retract from your scumread?

Tell me when you've done what I asked you to do or please go look at someone else and place your vote onto me D2. I don't want to answer your questions anymore. I think that you ask just to ask something, you're not interesting in the actual answers since you don't draw a conclusion. To be honest, you don't even remotely look like you're even reading the answers.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 02 2017 18:57 GMT
#1666
On August 03 2017 03:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 03:49 CopCake wrote:
On August 03 2017 03:32 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 03 2017 03:31 CopCake wrote:
On August 03 2017 03:09 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 02 2017 22:31 CopCake wrote:
I think we found our distanced mafia, koshi is making no sense.

If BTDT changed his votes so many times is because as a scum he knew the person he lynched wouldnt get lynched, scum counts who is winning the wagon.

You and Ruxxar need to realize the following: if I am scum and happy with either lynch of TT, DF and Damdred, it clears all three of them that I am merrily jumping wagons at EoD. Do you think all of those three are town?

+ Show Spoiler +
I hope you realized by now that I didn't merrily switch wagons because that's what both of you are currently implying.


Dude, you need to realize that a town would have sticked with the most scummiest, I didnt find tick tock "scummy" but neither "townie" so I stuck with my mafia read, I dislike to jump on wagons just because.

So I'm town since I sticked with the scummiest person which at the time was (you) TicTock. I actively tried to judge who'd be the better lynch and I figured it was Tictock.


Then deal with it, you lynched tick tock if you are town you make a "mistake" but why do you kept changing from one to another?

I didn't hammer Tictock, I was not the decisive vote.
I don't regret taking part in lynching a townie.
(I wouldn't regret if I had been the hammer, too)

I'm not sure how you missed it, I thought I said it pretty clearly, but I'll gather it up in one place:

1. I wanted to lynch HF because he's speaking russian and I do not like that at all, in complete disregard of his actual alignment. I don't want that mechanism in the game.
2. I wanted to lynch Damdred because I thought he was absolutely not contributing to the game and I regard him as a player who is very sharp on finding scum and who is good at this game. My impression was that his play was lackluster and missing its usual sharpness. I pointed that out several times and thus I started a wagon on him.
3. Since DF was and is locked town in my eyes, I defaulted to the wagon that is "not DF", in this case being Tictock. I said that I hadn't built a final opinion on Tictock and I did so as good as I could; and I was absolutely torn between Damdred being scum or Damdred being town (again, check my filter, there's a post where I quote my problem very specifically)
4. I couldn't understand your behaviour at EoD at all, you were just yelling a lot, making noise, apparently only being interested in chaos and derailing and not in actually determining any wagon's alignment. So I hoped to start shenanigans on you, also because the closer deadline came, the more certain I was on Tictock being town - I asked multiple times (bolded and big) if someone was hard opposing the TT lynch.

Those steps 1-4 are what you call "jumping on wagons" and yes, I did switch wagons, but each switch had its reasons and they were, at least from my perspective, good ones.


Ok this is a super good post.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 02 2017 18:58 GMT
#1667
Или зря. Мне нравится тщеславное чтение Йоши. Он кажется более активным, но сосредоточен на механике. Я думаю, что он злой.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 02 2017 18:59 GMT
#1668
You know what

I'll lock HF as town now. I don't think mafia gets such limitations and if so, I'll simply give the hosts feedback that I don't like it and I find it unenjoyable. So! HF top town.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 02 2017 19:00 GMT
#1669
On August 03 2017 03:55 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 03:52 Holyflare wrote:
У меня была ДВА ПОЛОЖЕНИЯ ОГРАНИЧЕНИЯ НА МЕНЯ.

ПОЧЕМУ НЕТ НИКАКОГО ПРИЗНАНИЯ?

КАК Я МАФИЯ ЛЮБЛЮ ИЛИ ГОРОД, КОТОРЫЙ ПОЛУЧИЛ 3P И MAFIA В ОДНОМ ВРЕМЕНИ.

Я думаю, что торт тоже хорош. Конвертер просто удивил меня. Он не самый злой для меня.

Можем ли мы просто убить темную фольгу из-за досады? Вероятно, он тоже злой. Двойной выигрыш.

Почему вы ненавидите df? Мне понравился его последний список.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 02 2017 19:02 GMT
#1670
Holyflare и Тина: не могли бы вы объяснить, как вы стали русским? Или цитируйте сообщение, где вы его объяснили?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 02 2017 19:04 GMT
#1671
On August 03 2017 03:50 darthfoley wrote:
Inb4 rsoultin and hf are both mafia trolling us and there was never a Russian speaking mechanic in the first place


Просто означает

;o;

Он думал, что часы были злыми. Тогда он этого не сделал. Мне это не нравится.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 02 2017 19:04 GMT
#1672
PM Говоря, я забыл английский до дальнейшего уведомления.

Кроме того, вы сказали, что это не городская HF в вашем мини-корпусе, чтобы линчевать меня и пойти на крестовый поход, чтобы линчевать меня, а теперь отредактировать это и сказать, что вы на самом деле не помнили меня?
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 02 2017 19:05 GMT
#1673
On August 03 2017 03:55 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 03:52 Holyflare wrote:
У меня была ДВА ПОЛОЖЕНИЯ ОГРАНИЧЕНИЯ НА МЕНЯ.

ПОЧЕМУ НЕТ НИКАКОГО ПРИЗНАНИЯ?

КАК Я МАФИЯ ЛЮБЛЮ ИЛИ ГОРОД, КОТОРЫЙ ПОЛУЧИЛ 3P И MAFIA В ОДНОМ ВРЕМЕНИ.

Я думаю, что торт тоже хорош. Конвертер просто удивил меня. Он не самый злой для меня.

Можем ли мы просто убить темную фольгу из-за досады? Вероятно, он тоже злой. Двойной выигрыш.


Why am I scum? Please please explain
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 02 2017 19:07 GMT
#1674
On August 03 2017 04:02 beentheredonethat wrote:
Holyflare и Тина: не могли бы вы объяснить, как вы стали русским? Или цитируйте сообщение, где вы его объяснили?

Вы знаете, как трудно найти это в фильтре? Я не могу читать по-русски.

Я должен писать русский язык в игровой теме. Не применяется к QT, если в QT. Продолжается, пока ...?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 02 2017 19:07 GMT
#1675
I think I'll scumread Rels until he decides to play the game again
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 02 2017 19:11 GMT
#1676
On August 03 2017 04:04 Holyflare wrote:
PM Говоря, я забыл английский до дальнейшего уведомления.

Кроме того, вы сказали, что это не городская HF в вашем мини-корпусе, чтобы линчевать меня и пойти на крестовый поход, чтобы линчевать меня, а теперь отредактировать это и сказать, что вы на самом деле не помнили меня?

"PM Speaking, I forgot English until further notice.

In addition, you said that it is not a city HF in your mini-corps to lynch me and go on a crusade to lynch me, and now edit it and say that you really did not remember me?"

Use smaller sentences for the sake of being understandable. Please.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 02 2017 19:13 GMT
#1677
On August 03 2017 00:28 Holyflare wrote:
Вещь, которая является бычьим дерьмом и почему превращение, вероятно, является мафией, заключается в том, что я сказал, что у меня есть две ограничения на публикацию.

Если он город с лекарством от русских, то почему он не видит этого и не оценивает ВСЕ? Единственная причина, по которой я могу иметь два ограничения на меня, - это если я городской.

rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 02 2017 19:13 GMT
#1678
On August 03 2017 04:05 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 03:55 rsoultin wrote:
On August 03 2017 03:52 Holyflare wrote:
У меня была ДВА ПОЛОЖЕНИЯ ОГРАНИЧЕНИЯ НА МЕНЯ.

ПОЧЕМУ НЕТ НИКАКОГО ПРИЗНАНИЯ?

КАК Я МАФИЯ ЛЮБЛЮ ИЛИ ГОРОД, КОТОРЫЙ ПОЛУЧИЛ 3P И MAFIA В ОДНОМ ВРЕМЕНИ.

Я думаю, что торт тоже хорош. Конвертер просто удивил меня. Он не самый злой для меня.

Можем ли мы просто убить темную фольгу из-за досады? Вероятно, он тоже злой. Двойной выигрыш.


Why am I scum? Please please explain

On August 02 2017 03:03 darthfoley wrote:
TT's reasoning for voting VA over Damdred is pretty poo btw.

Show nested quote +
On August 01 2017 08:24 Tictock wrote:
On July 31 2017 22:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
is there any reason to change my vote? Tictock has like a page of filter about HF's roleplay since then and he gave a box of matches to ruxxar who is not that townie. Box of matches is bad.


Does any of that make me scum?

I doubt this is an accurate summary of my filter but I can't be bothered to check.


This felt scummy to me at the time and I called him out for it. His filter was like 1 page at the time, easily verifiable, yet doesn't do it cuz lulzZz i'm so lazy. The first sentence implies that it IS indeed true (does any of it make me scum) followed by a sentence that then claims he "doubts the accuracy."

Show nested quote +
On August 01 2017 13:48 Tictock wrote:
VA is hypocrit. He scum reads me for giving away an item to ruxx yet has been asking for things himself.

I also don't get this connection he is drawing between Rux and myself. He suggests that we are somehow coordinating this item thing via a QT or something but then says one of us should be flipped to figure it out.

I'd also like to know how he knows anything about these matches when I myself have no clue what they could be used for.


So basically he's scumreading VA for mechanics related reasons, which isn't inherently bad. However, being a hypocrite is not an AI conclusion in this case IMO. His next post...

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On August 01 2017 13:53 Tictock wrote:
I don't like Damdred's read on me. Calling me lackluster is a copout read imo. Not sure what he is expecting of me when I've been clear about my time constraints and it's also been ages since I have played. He should also be fairly aware that I've been mislynched as Town before for being "lackluster"


This is a much more "solid" read, incorporating Damdred's reads, meta, saying he's copping out. I don't disagree with his assessment, so I am waiting to see him vote Damdred, considering there's some beef to this scum read (though he never actually calls Damdred scum.) He follows this with

Show nested quote +
On August 01 2017 14:10 Tictock wrote:
##Vote: VayneAuthority

VA and Damdred are who stand out to me ATM, but I feel better about a VA lynch for now.

Besides OMGUS the only thing I have against Damdred is he isn't standing out as Town to me like he often does. Neither of those are strong enough for a vote imo.

I could go either way with Ruxx ATM. Would be interested to hear why Koshi has him as lock Town.

Conversion is another one I'm unsure about. I really disliked his reactions to being pressured earlier and his opening did feel a bit off. Scummy side of null is where I'd put him if I had an actual list right now.

BtDt has been pretty active and engaged but a few of his reads feel off to me. I think the main thing hat stuck out to me was the bit on HF. I'd be more cautious about Town reading him than most have been thus far.

I think Rsoul, Cake, and Koshi are my easy Town reads for now. Cake and Rsoul for effort and pushing their own thoughts, Koshi more for tone.

Tumble seems Town, he can have a pass for now.

Everyone else (DF, and whoever else I'm forgetting right this second) I just don't have enough on to make a read on.

I also eagerly await anything from Rels with an alignment.


He downplays his accusation of Damdred in the following big reads post. Now he's just null reading (although he keeps implying a scum read of Damdred somewhere) for OMGUS-- which is a convenient reason to back off of someone-- and "not standing out" which is not really what he just accused him of earlier. He claims it's not enough of a reason to vote for Damdred... but VA being a hypocrite is?

In fact, the more I read it, the more TT's sentence about Damdred seems off. It seems as if he felt the need to justify voting VA > Damdred. Comes across as over-explanation. Really not a fan.


On August 02 2017 05:49 darthfoley wrote:
rsoultin is giving me the heebie-jeebies.

rsoultin/damdred/tt

post game creds??


Часы злые

On August 02 2017 05:57 darthfoley wrote:
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On August 02 2017 05:57 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 02 2017 05:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
so no HF lynch. Okay.

I repeat:

WHO IS ABSOLUTELY OPPOSING A TICTOCK LYNCH?

I want to point out that no answers to this probably mean that Tictock is town


the problem is that i'm town too and there are five minutes to save the world


??????????
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
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August 02 2017 19:15 GMT
#1679
Что изменилось?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
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August 02 2017 19:17 GMT
#1680
На самом деле, я думаю, что я что-то увидел, но ты все равно должен отвечать.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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