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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 02 2017 15:42 GMT
#1502
when it mattered* have to get my verb tenses correct.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 02 2017 15:45 GMT
#1505
On August 02 2017 05:52 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:52 Tictock wrote:
HF is not a good yolo lynch.

I think I feel ok about a DF lynch.

Did Ruxx have an excuse to not be around for EoD? I'd have expected him to be here.


Why DF?


Yea, i forgot you asked compelling and hard hitting questions like asking town!TT why he wanted to lynch the only viable option over himself.

Forgive me for not remembering your stellar EoD play!
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 02 2017 15:55 GMT
#1512
On August 03 2017 00:49 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 00:45 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 00:30 Superbia wrote:
On August 02 2017 23:47 darthfoley wrote:
I think Koshi is town. I'm getting town vibes from HF as well. Rels also struck me as town when he was posting, asking questions in the right places.

ruxXar i'm pretty unsure about. He's asking just enough questions in the right places to skate by. He was supposedly gone EoD so it's hard to gauge his actions iirc.

I think if CopCake is scum, VA is probably town. CopCake has made multiple "forgetful" mistakes post flip, and now she's living in a 100% Darthfoley/btdt mafia world for like no reason. The stubbornness strikes me as odd so early in the game.

I still think rsoultin's 180 reversal on Damdred is weird. Damdred had kind of a scummy EoD as well. It went from Damdred is 80% scum to Damdred explains one tiny point to "Damdred is never scum here!" The progression really bugs me. SvS or TvS?

Superbia has done n o t h i n g to make me think that he's town. Inb4 "i'm always terrible town or lurk mafia!" self meta analysis.

Conversion hasn't done jack since Superbia's pressure got off of him. Might just be lucky mafia who skated by for the rest of D1?

I'm nervous about how confident Btdt was that I was town, even with a few inconsistencies found by Rels. I didn't feel like Btdt ever considered me for the lynch, which strikes me as odd.

TW kinda seemed tone from tone etc, but his EoD spooked me as well.


Mafia. Lynch or KP 100%.


On a serious note, Why?


Not reevaluating at all. It should've been pretty damn clear that I cared about how the lynch was going and that I was taking the lead in a way. He should be looking into who was easily willing to jump on his wagon and instead he just sticks to his scumreads because he can't re-evaluate whatsoever.


Wtf are you talking about?

The lynch was TvT, which means mafia can literally choose wherever they want to vote.

On August 02 2017 06:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Final Vote Count

TicTock (7): Rels, VayneAuthority, Holyflare, darthfoley, rsoultin, Conversion, rsoultin, Tumblewood, Damdred, Superbia, Superbia, beentheredonethat
Holyflare (0): beentheredonethat, darthfoley, beentheredonethat
Damdred (0): ruxXar, Koshi
No Lynch (0): ruxXar,

ruxXar (1): CopCake, Holyflare, Tumblewood
Copcake (1): beentheredonethat, ruxXar, Holyflare, ruxXar, beentheredonethat
Conversion (0): Superbia, beentheredonethat,
Superbia (0): Conversion,
Damdred (0): Koshi, beentheredonethat, rsoultin, CopCake, Tumblewood, Superbia
Rels (0): beentheredonethat, ruxXar

Darthfoley (4): Koshi, Rels, Damdred, Superbia, Copcake, Tictock, Koshi, Superbia, rsoultin
VayneAuthority (0): TicTock
beentheredonethat (1): Copcake, Copcake
Rels (0): Tumblewood

Not voting (0):

Ex-Comrade TicTock will be hanged from the guillotine for betraying the motherland.


I'm town reading Rels and Koshi. Rels had better reasons to vote for me than Koshi, but i think they're both town. I HAVE looked into who voted me, and I see that rsoultin who's scummy in a few ways voted for me. My read on her has changed as the game has gone on. TT was town.

Why would I care about who voted for me if TT was town and got flipped? Mafia doesn't give a flying fuck in this scneario; they could be off-wagon (HF, btdt, ruxX), hidden in the 7 TT votes, etc.

My reads have evolved throughout the game and if you aren't seeing it then you're either lazy town which is bad or mafia trying to stop me from getting to the point of being universally town read.

You R E A L L Y think your play EoD can be considered being a "leader?" Let's take a look at that!
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 02 2017 15:58 GMT
#1515
"i should be looking into who voted on me at some point"

Darthfoley (4): Koshi, Rels, Damdred, Superbia, Copcake, Tictock, Koshi, Superbia, rsoultin

I've said that I think Koshi and Rels are town.

I've repeatedly stated that I think there's mafia between Damdred/CC/Superbia and rsoultin has become more scummy.

Even by your own metrics, i've been doing what you're saying i should be doing-- but your conclusion is that i'm mafia for doing what you say I should be doing.

Garbaggio
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 02 2017 16:08 GMT
#1526
Let's look at Superbia, the leader of the town EoD!

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 02 2017 05:25 Superbia wrote:
That's a lot of people suddenly wanting to vote DF.

DF, defense please. x:


On August 02 2017 05:28 Superbia wrote:
TT spit some sick logic beats pls


On August 02 2017 05:32 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:31 darthfoley wrote:
Like I really don't think it's accurate to characterize my play as being bandwagoning. I've been transparent with my reads and answered questions posed to me. I'm gonna be around till EoD because i'll be damned if I get mislynched based off of nothing


If you could not lynch TT or myself, who'd you lynch?


On August 02 2017 05:34 Superbia wrote:
Opinions on Ruxxar now please.

Town or mafia? What do people think?


why the fuck do you care about AFK ruxxar when it's clear it's going to be TT vs. me

On August 02 2017 05:36 Superbia wrote:
In what world is TW ever town?


interesting how you never vote on him or try to start a wagon on him

On August 02 2017 05:38 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:24 Tumblewood wrote:
wow my reasons to townread df are waay weaker than i thought. df as scum could explain some things (ie why everyone is town) but the case against him seems pretty weak as well


Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:24 Damdred wrote:
i sort of feel like lynching into tt/df/btdt today for some reason


DF, in the world where you are town, these two posts are pretty damn scummy ^


I agreed on this point.

On August 02 2017 05:39 Superbia wrote:
Yeah I'm no longer up for DF either at this point.


Great! So you should be voting for one of the two people you said were scummy (Damdred, TW) or the main wagon TT

On August 02 2017 05:41 Superbia wrote:
Meh.

So it comes down to TT or TW.

Rels bring us something good z_z


So now I am out of your calculus for the final 2. Great, seeing as i'm town, but what do you do next?

On August 02 2017 05:42 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
Actually let's lynch Holyflare

1. the russian stuff is super weird
2. if the russian stuff is mod-induced, it still sucks
3. "contributions"
4. in no way he's doing what town HF is doing normally
5. all the discussions are without HF although he's in a game

woa that's actually a decent case.


Unsure. Maybe.


Oh, now maybe HF is a good lynch train to hop on.

On August 02 2017 05:45 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:44 Rels wrote:
On August 02 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
Let's lynch Holyflare.

##unvote
##vote Holyflare


Yes, over CopCake and Damdred.

lol
I think it's a waste 'cause if he's town he's forced to play like that and he didn't do a bad job. And if he's scum and faking it we should know sooner or later when we know more about the mechanics.


Pretty good post.


Nvm, now you think Btdt's idea is bad like 2 seconds later. What a change in conscience

On August 02 2017 05:49 Superbia wrote:
I really really want to lynch ruxxar, I think.


Okay...

On August 02 2017 05:52 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:52 Tictock wrote:
HF is not a good yolo lynch.

I think I feel ok about a DF lynch.

Did Ruxx have an excuse to not be around for EoD? I'd have expected him to be here.


Why DF?


Already explained why this post is trash

On August 02 2017 06:30 Superbia wrote:
:/



tl;dr there's about 40 inconsistencies with Superbia's EoD play:

1) implies that i'm town because of votes piling up, then says outright he's not comfortable with EoD. There was still 20 minutes left before EoD when he said this, and had time to try and lynch ruxxar, TW or Damdred instead.

2) He goes from thinking btdt's idea is decent to think Rels is a town god for point out that it isn't within 3 minutes

3) He NEVER votes for any of the people he says he's suspicious of. Never TW, never ruxxar, never Damdred. He switches between TT and myself, both of whom he says are probably town.

4) The fact that he claims to have "led" the town EoD is so false that it is a lynchable offense regardless of alignment.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 02 2017 16:10 GMT
#1529
On August 03 2017 00:59 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 00:58 darthfoley wrote:
"i should be looking into who voted on me at some point"

Darthfoley (4): Koshi, Rels, Damdred, Superbia, Copcake, Tictock, Koshi, Superbia, rsoultin

I've said that I think Koshi and Rels are town.

I've repeatedly stated that I think there's mafia between Damdred/CC/Superbia and rsoultin has become more scummy.

Even by your own metrics, i've been doing what you're saying i should be doing-- but your conclusion is that i'm mafia for doing what you say I should be doing.

Garbaggio


Lol so all the end voters on you were town unless rso is strictly scum?

Please, do go on.


So because i'm town, Koshi or Rels have to be mafia because they voted on me? What type of logic world do you live in?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 02 2017 16:11 GMT
#1530
On August 03 2017 01:01 Superbia wrote:
Paint me the picture of the entire scum team switching off you near a pretty close EoD.


I never said the entire team was on me. There could be a mafia in the off wagon stuff (CC, btdt, HF) as I've already mentioned.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 02 2017 16:12 GMT
#1533
On August 03 2017 01:08 rsoultin wrote:
Я согласен, что тщетный человек может быть плохим. Я не уверен в темной фольге. Я хочу, чтобы он был плохим, поэтому я могу быть прав.


dark foil; i like it
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 02 2017 16:13 GMT
#1534
On August 03 2017 01:12 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 01:11 darthfoley wrote:
On August 03 2017 01:01 Superbia wrote:
Paint me the picture of the entire scum team switching off you near a pretty close EoD.


I never said the entire team was on me. There could be a mafia in the off wagon stuff (CC, btdt, HF) as I've already mentioned.


Who is the mafia that ended up voting for you? Rso?


If there were mafia on me, yea most likely.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 02 2017 16:15 GMT
#1536
On August 03 2017 01:12 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 01:08 darthfoley wrote:
Let's look at Superbia, the leader of the town EoD!

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 02 2017 05:25 Superbia wrote:
That's a lot of people suddenly wanting to vote DF.

DF, defense please. x:


On August 02 2017 05:28 Superbia wrote:
TT spit some sick logic beats pls


On August 02 2017 05:32 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:31 darthfoley wrote:
Like I really don't think it's accurate to characterize my play as being bandwagoning. I've been transparent with my reads and answered questions posed to me. I'm gonna be around till EoD because i'll be damned if I get mislynched based off of nothing


If you could not lynch TT or myself, who'd you lynch?


On August 02 2017 05:34 Superbia wrote:
Opinions on Ruxxar now please.

Town or mafia? What do people think?


why the fuck do you care about AFK ruxxar when it's clear it's going to be TT vs. me

On August 02 2017 05:36 Superbia wrote:
In what world is TW ever town?


interesting how you never vote on him or try to start a wagon on him

On August 02 2017 05:38 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:24 Tumblewood wrote:
wow my reasons to townread df are waay weaker than i thought. df as scum could explain some things (ie why everyone is town) but the case against him seems pretty weak as well


Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:24 Damdred wrote:
i sort of feel like lynching into tt/df/btdt today for some reason


DF, in the world where you are town, these two posts are pretty damn scummy ^


I agreed on this point.

On August 02 2017 05:39 Superbia wrote:
Yeah I'm no longer up for DF either at this point.


Great! So you should be voting for one of the two people you said were scummy (Damdred, TW) or the main wagon TT

On August 02 2017 05:41 Superbia wrote:
Meh.

So it comes down to TT or TW.

Rels bring us something good z_z


So now I am out of your calculus for the final 2. Great, seeing as i'm town, but what do you do next?

On August 02 2017 05:42 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
Actually let's lynch Holyflare

1. the russian stuff is super weird
2. if the russian stuff is mod-induced, it still sucks
3. "contributions"
4. in no way he's doing what town HF is doing normally
5. all the discussions are without HF although he's in a game

woa that's actually a decent case.


Unsure. Maybe.


Oh, now maybe HF is a good lynch train to hop on.

On August 02 2017 05:45 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:44 Rels wrote:
On August 02 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
Let's lynch Holyflare.

##unvote
##vote Holyflare


Yes, over CopCake and Damdred.

lol
I think it's a waste 'cause if he's town he's forced to play like that and he didn't do a bad job. And if he's scum and faking it we should know sooner or later when we know more about the mechanics.


Pretty good post.


Nvm, now you think Btdt's idea is bad like 2 seconds later. What a change in conscience

On August 02 2017 05:49 Superbia wrote:
I really really want to lynch ruxxar, I think.


Okay...

On August 02 2017 05:52 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:52 Tictock wrote:
HF is not a good yolo lynch.

I think I feel ok about a DF lynch.

Did Ruxx have an excuse to not be around for EoD? I'd have expected him to be here.


Why DF?


Already explained why this post is trash

On August 02 2017 06:30 Superbia wrote:
:/



tl;dr there's about 40 inconsistencies with Superbia's EoD play:

1) implies that i'm town because of votes piling up, then says outright he's not comfortable with EoD. There was still 20 minutes left before EoD when he said this, and had time to try and lynch ruxxar, TW or Damdred instead.

2) He goes from thinking btdt's idea is decent to think Rels is a town god for point out that it isn't within 3 minutes

3) He NEVER votes for any of the people he says he's suspicious of. Never TW, never ruxxar, never Damdred. He switches between TT and myself, both of whom he says are probably town.

4) The fact that he claims to have "led" the town EoD is so false that it is a lynchable offense regardless of alignment.


How does any of this make me mafia?

4. Nobody was doing fucking anything. I queried for lynch preferences and was pretty much the closest thing to a leader town had at EoD.


(lynch preferences don't matter if the main wagons are town). If you were the leader of the town, why didn't you start a wagon on Tumblewood, ruxxar or Damdred?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 02 2017 16:17 GMT
#1539
On August 03 2017 01:16 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 01:15 darthfoley wrote:
On August 03 2017 01:12 Superbia wrote:
On August 03 2017 01:08 darthfoley wrote:
Let's look at Superbia, the leader of the town EoD!

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 02 2017 05:25 Superbia wrote:
That's a lot of people suddenly wanting to vote DF.

DF, defense please. x:


On August 02 2017 05:28 Superbia wrote:
TT spit some sick logic beats pls


On August 02 2017 05:32 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:31 darthfoley wrote:
Like I really don't think it's accurate to characterize my play as being bandwagoning. I've been transparent with my reads and answered questions posed to me. I'm gonna be around till EoD because i'll be damned if I get mislynched based off of nothing


If you could not lynch TT or myself, who'd you lynch?


On August 02 2017 05:34 Superbia wrote:
Opinions on Ruxxar now please.

Town or mafia? What do people think?


why the fuck do you care about AFK ruxxar when it's clear it's going to be TT vs. me

On August 02 2017 05:36 Superbia wrote:
In what world is TW ever town?


interesting how you never vote on him or try to start a wagon on him

On August 02 2017 05:38 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:24 Tumblewood wrote:
wow my reasons to townread df are waay weaker than i thought. df as scum could explain some things (ie why everyone is town) but the case against him seems pretty weak as well


Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:24 Damdred wrote:
i sort of feel like lynching into tt/df/btdt today for some reason


DF, in the world where you are town, these two posts are pretty damn scummy ^


I agreed on this point.

On August 02 2017 05:39 Superbia wrote:
Yeah I'm no longer up for DF either at this point.


Great! So you should be voting for one of the two people you said were scummy (Damdred, TW) or the main wagon TT

On August 02 2017 05:41 Superbia wrote:
Meh.

So it comes down to TT or TW.

Rels bring us something good z_z


So now I am out of your calculus for the final 2. Great, seeing as i'm town, but what do you do next?

On August 02 2017 05:42 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
Actually let's lynch Holyflare

1. the russian stuff is super weird
2. if the russian stuff is mod-induced, it still sucks
3. "contributions"
4. in no way he's doing what town HF is doing normally
5. all the discussions are without HF although he's in a game

woa that's actually a decent case.


Unsure. Maybe.


Oh, now maybe HF is a good lynch train to hop on.

On August 02 2017 05:45 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:44 Rels wrote:
On August 02 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
Let's lynch Holyflare.

##unvote
##vote Holyflare


Yes, over CopCake and Damdred.

lol
I think it's a waste 'cause if he's town he's forced to play like that and he didn't do a bad job. And if he's scum and faking it we should know sooner or later when we know more about the mechanics.


Pretty good post.


Nvm, now you think Btdt's idea is bad like 2 seconds later. What a change in conscience

On August 02 2017 05:49 Superbia wrote:
I really really want to lynch ruxxar, I think.


Okay...

On August 02 2017 05:52 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:52 Tictock wrote:
HF is not a good yolo lynch.

I think I feel ok about a DF lynch.

Did Ruxx have an excuse to not be around for EoD? I'd have expected him to be here.


Why DF?


Already explained why this post is trash

On August 02 2017 06:30 Superbia wrote:
:/



tl;dr there's about 40 inconsistencies with Superbia's EoD play:

1) implies that i'm town because of votes piling up, then says outright he's not comfortable with EoD. There was still 20 minutes left before EoD when he said this, and had time to try and lynch ruxxar, TW or Damdred instead.

2) He goes from thinking btdt's idea is decent to think Rels is a town god for point out that it isn't within 3 minutes

3) He NEVER votes for any of the people he says he's suspicious of. Never TW, never ruxxar, never Damdred. He switches between TT and myself, both of whom he says are probably town.

4) The fact that he claims to have "led" the town EoD is so false that it is a lynchable offense regardless of alignment.


How does any of this make me mafia?

4. Nobody was doing fucking anything. I queried for lynch preferences and was pretty much the closest thing to a leader town had at EoD.


(lynch preferences don't matter if the main wagons are town). If you were the leader of the town, why didn't you start a wagon on Tumblewood, ruxxar or Damdred?


Did I not fucking ask people whether anyone wanted to lynch TW/Ruxxar? And what sort of reaction did I get?


A leader does not ask people what they want to do and waffles. A leader tells people what they should do, and why.

Ask town!HF or town!Koshi about what a leader does, and it will be clear that you were not a leader.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 02 2017 16:19 GMT
#1540
On August 03 2017 01:15 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 01:13 darthfoley wrote:
On August 03 2017 01:12 Superbia wrote:
On August 03 2017 01:11 darthfoley wrote:
On August 03 2017 01:01 Superbia wrote:
Paint me the picture of the entire scum team switching off you near a pretty close EoD.


I never said the entire team was on me. There could be a mafia in the off wagon stuff (CC, btdt, HF) as I've already mentioned.


Who is the mafia that ended up voting for you? Rso?


If there were mafia on me, yea most likely.


WRITE THE FUCKING STORY DUDE

Holy shit

Who were the mafia that did not care? Who switched for what reason and what makes them mafia or town?

Why the fuck did your 3 mafia team switch to other votes? Why is your entire team of mafia ACTIVELY switching votes near EoD?


Why are you asking me to draw associations for a mafia team of three on D1? You are misrepresenting me again for no reason. Talk about being nit-picky. You are one of the mafia who switched and obviously didn't care who died.

If you flip mafia, i'm going to look very closely at TW, ruxxar and Damdred
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 02 2017 16:22 GMT
#1543
On August 03 2017 01:19 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 01:17 darthfoley wrote:
On August 03 2017 01:16 Superbia wrote:
On August 03 2017 01:15 darthfoley wrote:
On August 03 2017 01:12 Superbia wrote:
On August 03 2017 01:08 darthfoley wrote:
Let's look at Superbia, the leader of the town EoD!

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 02 2017 05:25 Superbia wrote:
That's a lot of people suddenly wanting to vote DF.

DF, defense please. x:


On August 02 2017 05:28 Superbia wrote:
TT spit some sick logic beats pls


On August 02 2017 05:32 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:31 darthfoley wrote:
Like I really don't think it's accurate to characterize my play as being bandwagoning. I've been transparent with my reads and answered questions posed to me. I'm gonna be around till EoD because i'll be damned if I get mislynched based off of nothing


If you could not lynch TT or myself, who'd you lynch?


On August 02 2017 05:34 Superbia wrote:
Opinions on Ruxxar now please.

Town or mafia? What do people think?


why the fuck do you care about AFK ruxxar when it's clear it's going to be TT vs. me

On August 02 2017 05:36 Superbia wrote:
In what world is TW ever town?


interesting how you never vote on him or try to start a wagon on him

On August 02 2017 05:38 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:24 Tumblewood wrote:
wow my reasons to townread df are waay weaker than i thought. df as scum could explain some things (ie why everyone is town) but the case against him seems pretty weak as well


Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:24 Damdred wrote:
i sort of feel like lynching into tt/df/btdt today for some reason


DF, in the world where you are town, these two posts are pretty damn scummy ^


I agreed on this point.

On August 02 2017 05:39 Superbia wrote:
Yeah I'm no longer up for DF either at this point.


Great! So you should be voting for one of the two people you said were scummy (Damdred, TW) or the main wagon TT

On August 02 2017 05:41 Superbia wrote:
Meh.

So it comes down to TT or TW.

Rels bring us something good z_z


So now I am out of your calculus for the final 2. Great, seeing as i'm town, but what do you do next?

On August 02 2017 05:42 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
Actually let's lynch Holyflare

1. the russian stuff is super weird
2. if the russian stuff is mod-induced, it still sucks
3. "contributions"
4. in no way he's doing what town HF is doing normally
5. all the discussions are without HF although he's in a game

woa that's actually a decent case.


Unsure. Maybe.


Oh, now maybe HF is a good lynch train to hop on.

On August 02 2017 05:45 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:44 Rels wrote:
On August 02 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
Let's lynch Holyflare.

##unvote
##vote Holyflare


Yes, over CopCake and Damdred.

lol
I think it's a waste 'cause if he's town he's forced to play like that and he didn't do a bad job. And if he's scum and faking it we should know sooner or later when we know more about the mechanics.


Pretty good post.


Nvm, now you think Btdt's idea is bad like 2 seconds later. What a change in conscience

On August 02 2017 05:49 Superbia wrote:
I really really want to lynch ruxxar, I think.


Okay...

On August 02 2017 05:52 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:52 Tictock wrote:
HF is not a good yolo lynch.

I think I feel ok about a DF lynch.

Did Ruxx have an excuse to not be around for EoD? I'd have expected him to be here.


Why DF?


Already explained why this post is trash

On August 02 2017 06:30 Superbia wrote:
:/



tl;dr there's about 40 inconsistencies with Superbia's EoD play:

1) implies that i'm town because of votes piling up, then says outright he's not comfortable with EoD. There was still 20 minutes left before EoD when he said this, and had time to try and lynch ruxxar, TW or Damdred instead.

2) He goes from thinking btdt's idea is decent to think Rels is a town god for point out that it isn't within 3 minutes

3) He NEVER votes for any of the people he says he's suspicious of. Never TW, never ruxxar, never Damdred. He switches between TT and myself, both of whom he says are probably town.

4) The fact that he claims to have "led" the town EoD is so false that it is a lynchable offense regardless of alignment.


How does any of this make me mafia?

4. Nobody was doing fucking anything. I queried for lynch preferences and was pretty much the closest thing to a leader town had at EoD.


(lynch preferences don't matter if the main wagons are town). If you were the leader of the town, why didn't you start a wagon on Tumblewood, ruxxar or Damdred?


Did I not fucking ask people whether anyone wanted to lynch TW/Ruxxar? And what sort of reaction did I get?


A leader does not ask people what they want to do and waffles. A leader tells people what they should do, and why.

Ask town!HF or town!Koshi about what a leader does, and it will be clear that you were not a leader.


Cool story. I did not feel good enough about my reads on either TW nor Ruxxar to actively push them. So I asked instead.

It just seems like you are trying to actively frustrate me instead of evaluation.

KP this man.


You said TW could never be town. And didn't vote for him

Case closed Gold Leader
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 02 2017 16:26 GMT
#1545
In what world is TW town?

*Lemme not vote for him*

That's the biggest inconsistency and I'm not trolling. Calling me a troll doesn't take away from the fact that it's scummy
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 02 2017 16:31 GMT
#1547
Can anyone come in and validate my sick read of Superbia being mafia and me being good Town?

It's tiring telling a mafia he's mafia
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 02 2017 16:46 GMT
#1559
On August 03 2017 01:40 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 23:58 darthfoley wrote:
On August 02 2017 23:56 Conversion wrote:
also didn't realize trying to figure out between Superbia/TT was doing jack shit

says the guy who's been trying to proactively defend the nonexistent train on himself.. but whatever. that post was still good and I don't see a reason to scumread you right now


I don't know what this means.

Anyways, my main point is that I think you've been kind of on the periphery of the game for a while. Can you tell us your current reads? Just a few names to consider for mafia/town


strong scum read on Superbia

weaker read between HF and ruxxar so I need to figure out HF without this russian BS

my strongest townread is rsolutin

everyone else is kind of meh


Why is rsoultin your strongest TR?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 02 2017 17:41 GMT
#1571
On August 03 2017 02:24 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 01:17 darthfoley wrote:
On August 03 2017 01:16 Superbia wrote:
On August 03 2017 01:15 darthfoley wrote:
On August 03 2017 01:12 Superbia wrote:
On August 03 2017 01:08 darthfoley wrote:
Let's look at Superbia, the leader of the town EoD!

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 02 2017 05:25 Superbia wrote:
That's a lot of people suddenly wanting to vote DF.

DF, defense please. x:


On August 02 2017 05:28 Superbia wrote:
TT spit some sick logic beats pls


On August 02 2017 05:32 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:31 darthfoley wrote:
Like I really don't think it's accurate to characterize my play as being bandwagoning. I've been transparent with my reads and answered questions posed to me. I'm gonna be around till EoD because i'll be damned if I get mislynched based off of nothing


If you could not lynch TT or myself, who'd you lynch?


On August 02 2017 05:34 Superbia wrote:
Opinions on Ruxxar now please.

Town or mafia? What do people think?


why the fuck do you care about AFK ruxxar when it's clear it's going to be TT vs. me

On August 02 2017 05:36 Superbia wrote:
In what world is TW ever town?


interesting how you never vote on him or try to start a wagon on him

On August 02 2017 05:38 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:24 Tumblewood wrote:
wow my reasons to townread df are waay weaker than i thought. df as scum could explain some things (ie why everyone is town) but the case against him seems pretty weak as well


Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:24 Damdred wrote:
i sort of feel like lynching into tt/df/btdt today for some reason


DF, in the world where you are town, these two posts are pretty damn scummy ^


I agreed on this point.

On August 02 2017 05:39 Superbia wrote:
Yeah I'm no longer up for DF either at this point.


Great! So you should be voting for one of the two people you said were scummy (Damdred, TW) or the main wagon TT

On August 02 2017 05:41 Superbia wrote:
Meh.

So it comes down to TT or TW.

Rels bring us something good z_z


So now I am out of your calculus for the final 2. Great, seeing as i'm town, but what do you do next?

On August 02 2017 05:42 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
Actually let's lynch Holyflare

1. the russian stuff is super weird
2. if the russian stuff is mod-induced, it still sucks
3. "contributions"
4. in no way he's doing what town HF is doing normally
5. all the discussions are without HF although he's in a game

woa that's actually a decent case.


Unsure. Maybe.


Oh, now maybe HF is a good lynch train to hop on.

On August 02 2017 05:45 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:44 Rels wrote:
On August 02 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
Let's lynch Holyflare.

##unvote
##vote Holyflare


Yes, over CopCake and Damdred.

lol
I think it's a waste 'cause if he's town he's forced to play like that and he didn't do a bad job. And if he's scum and faking it we should know sooner or later when we know more about the mechanics.


Pretty good post.


Nvm, now you think Btdt's idea is bad like 2 seconds later. What a change in conscience

On August 02 2017 05:49 Superbia wrote:
I really really want to lynch ruxxar, I think.


Okay...

On August 02 2017 05:52 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 05:52 Tictock wrote:
HF is not a good yolo lynch.

I think I feel ok about a DF lynch.

Did Ruxx have an excuse to not be around for EoD? I'd have expected him to be here.


Why DF?


Already explained why this post is trash

On August 02 2017 06:30 Superbia wrote:
:/



tl;dr there's about 40 inconsistencies with Superbia's EoD play:

1) implies that i'm town because of votes piling up, then says outright he's not comfortable with EoD. There was still 20 minutes left before EoD when he said this, and had time to try and lynch ruxxar, TW or Damdred instead.

2) He goes from thinking btdt's idea is decent to think Rels is a town god for point out that it isn't within 3 minutes

3) He NEVER votes for any of the people he says he's suspicious of. Never TW, never ruxxar, never Damdred. He switches between TT and myself, both of whom he says are probably town.

4) The fact that he claims to have "led" the town EoD is so false that it is a lynchable offense regardless of alignment.


How does any of this make me mafia?

4. Nobody was doing fucking anything. I queried for lynch preferences and was pretty much the closest thing to a leader town had at EoD.


(lynch preferences don't matter if the main wagons are town). If you were the leader of the town, why didn't you start a wagon on Tumblewood, ruxxar or Damdred?


Did I not fucking ask people whether anyone wanted to lynch TW/Ruxxar? And what sort of reaction did I get?


A leader does not ask people what they want to do and waffles. A leader tells people what they should do, and why.

Ask town!HF or town!Koshi about what a leader does, and it will be clear that you were not a leader.


How can you be so sure HF and Koshi are town?

This is like you are implying you are 100% sure they are town. The only reason you can be 100% is if you are mafia.


I simply meant talk to town!Koshi or town!HF about what is being a town leader in a vacuum, when they're town. I'm not claiming they're 100% town this game
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 02 2017 18:34 GMT
#1626
On August 03 2017 03:29 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
On August 03 2017 03:18 rsoultin wrote:
Это должно быть злой силой. Это удручает. Я чувствую, что меня не видно.


Добро пожаловать в мой гребаный мир. Я так потерялся в игре, потому что до сих пор никто не будет взаимодействовать, так зачем играть?

Я понятия не имел, как это расстраивало это, должно быть, для вас. Они действуют так, как будто меня здесь нет. Вы можете обсудить со мной, даже если вы думаете, что я злой?


Dude I've been trying to interact with you. Stop pretending like no one is translating your posts
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 02 2017 18:36 GMT
#1628
On August 03 2017 03:19 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 23:47 darthfoley wrote:
I think Koshi is town. I'm getting town vibes from HF as well. Rels also struck me as town when he was posting, asking questions in the right places.

ruxXar i'm pretty unsure about. He's asking just enough questions in the right places to skate by. He was supposedly gone EoD so it's hard to gauge his actions iirc.

I think if CopCake is scum, VA is probably town. CopCake has made multiple "forgetful" mistakes post flip, and now she's living in a 100% Darthfoley/btdt mafia world for like no reason. The stubbornness strikes me as odd so early in the game.

I still think rsoultin's 180 reversal on Damdred is weird. Damdred had kind of a scummy EoD as well. It went from Damdred is 80% scum to Damdred explains one tiny point to "Damdred is never scum here!" The progression really bugs me. SvS or TvS?

Superbia has done n o t h i n g to make me think that he's town. Inb4 "i'm always terrible town or lurk mafia!" self meta analysis.

Conversion hasn't done jack since Superbia's pressure got off of him. Might just be lucky mafia who skated by for the rest of D1?

I'm nervous about how confident Btdt was that I was town, even with a few inconsistencies found by Rels. I didn't feel like Btdt ever considered me for the lynch, which strikes me as odd.

TW kinda seemed tone from tone etc, but his EoD spooked me as well.

Oh I can explain that:

Your reaction to me saying "I'll quit if people start all over with the "you're bad, btdt"" thing let me think you are town. Because in the obs QT of the last game we played you were super pissed about how I played and I don't think you pull that off as scum. Then I thought that your posts made sense overall, I agreed with a lot of things and I did (do) like a lot of what you say.

You're locked town for me.


Fwiw I'm back to thinking you're town. I don't think I'll ever vote for you
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 02 2017 18:48 GMT
#1651
On August 03 2017 03:43 Holyflare wrote:
[image loading]

Трахни мою жизнь. Мой фильтр.


lol I hadn't even thought of that
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