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On July 31 2017 21:55 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 21:54 Conversion wrote:On July 31 2017 20:57 Superbia wrote:
I'm also not talking about you knowing your alignment.
I'm talking about the fact that apparently (no one claimed otherwise) everyone started off with a role pm saying "you don't have a role/alignment, lol". And only got their role pm later (again, no one is claiming otherwise). WHICH SUGGESTS one of the following scenarios (excl 3rd p):
1. Both town and mafia were in the exact same scenario.
2. Only town was in the exact same scenario
You don't comment on this "unknown" role PM stuff nor the "getting a role" 24h later pm.
As town Conversion I expect the following:
"Oh 2 PMs, I must've missed the start of the game?"
"Oh wtf, one pm says I'm town but the other says I forgot my role. Wtf?"
"Let me catch up."
"Oh I see other people have this as well, this seems relevant to the game, let's comment on it"
Instead you ignore it which just seems ultra fishy for someone who JUST read his TWO (right!?) PMs and is catching up.
if you want to know my exact thought process I came to TL on sunday, read two PMs by the host and assumed rayn made a mistakeso can you reply why you're doing nothing else and making no other good posts unless you want to look scummy as fuck once I'm lynched and I flip town? That seems very unlikely if you read the game. Why would rayn make that mistake for all people... Most people didn't remember their role.
Why would I know whether rayn would make that mistake or not? My first line of thought was I need to get into the game ASAP because I forgot I even joined the game for a weekend
if your argument is seriously that I am scum for missing the first 24h just move on. I literally don't care if a mistake drives town to lynch me.
answer my question instead of asking me everything. who are your other reads?
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just lynch me thanks
don't give a shit honestly. superbia's arguments are awful, you're pushing me for actually giving reads and trying to get me to "slip" by making me run mental gymnastics on why i made a post
BTDT is probably gonna call me scum until the end of time like he did last game. got lynched and still called me scum until obs QT
I'll just laugh once I flip town and you all waste your D1 
see ya gonna pay attention to worm since being inactive is worth more than being active
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I probably have some bias on Damdred bc he was my coach in the last newbie game, plus didn't spend too much time reading him or anyone else with little posts
anyways I'm off. town pls lynch me TYVM I don't feel like playing with two versions of BTDT looking to call me scum all game
BTDT logic against me last game:
have good grammar when typing on a phone = lying scum
post = scum
post shit = scum
don't post = scum
ride off into inactivity = scum
half of town greenchecks me = scum
gets mislynched and I'm at final 3 = conversion must be scum
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townreads me not greenchecks*
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OK I apologize for acting like a QQing rager earlier-- something pissed me off in the morning with my broker.
On August 01 2017 00:26 beentheredonethat wrote:
I agree with Superbia and rsoul that your thread entry is bad. That is literally the only real thing I have going against you. Your tone and your reaction to being constantly under pressure (plus the things that Superbia brought up later) hardened that scum read and right now, it is the best shot I have.
This does not mean your lynch is locked nor does it mean that I'll never back off of you. I am even fairly certain that I do not have nor will ever have enough thread pull to lead a lynch (because I am probably regarded as the worst player in this game).
So. Let's both take one step back. I'll stop the "pressure" for now, you move off of your "btdt you suck"-OMGUS, and we both contribute as good as we can to a townie atmosphere. Okay?
sure.
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On August 01 2017 00:40 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 23:34 Koshi wrote:On July 31 2017 23:22 darthfoley wrote:
Koshi, come help me understand Superbia and btdt. Allow me to enter into your Belgian cranium and utilize the little gray cells What do you need help with? Both are playing quite straight forward atm. I don't know whether Superbia's pressure on Conversion is good town play or good mafia play, basically. Conversion's entrance is pretty shit, but I get the feeling Superbia vs. Conversion is TvM but i'm not sure who's who. Who are your town reads?
Could you explain why you think it's TvM instead of TvT?
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On August 01 2017 01:06 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2017 00:40 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 23:34 Koshi wrote:On July 31 2017 23:22 darthfoley wrote:
Koshi, come help me understand Superbia and btdt. Allow me to enter into your Belgian cranium and utilize the little gray cells What do you need help with? Both are playing quite straight forward atm. I don't know whether Superbia's pressure on Conversion is good town play or good mafia play, basically. Conversion's entrance is pretty shit, but I get the feeling Superbia vs. Conversion is TvM but i'm not sure who's who. Who are your town reads? For me btdt, Ruxx and Superbia are not lynchable D1. Rsoultin should be there as well based on where she is looking. I don't understand why you go for the paranoia read on Superbia already. I don't understand why you have that feeling anyway. Conversion might be faking his rage due to him not being able to back up his reads. The Damdred townread was possibly a mistake he had to cover up with an extremely lazy read.
On July 31 2017 22:15 Conversion wrote:
I probably have some bias on Damdred bc he was my coach in the last newbie game, plus didn't spend too much time reading him or anyone else with little posts
anyways I'm off. town pls lynch me TYVM I don't feel like playing with two versions of BTDT looking to call me scum all game
BTDT logic against me last game:
have good grammar when typing on a phone = lying scum
post = scum
post shit = scum
don't post = scum
ride off into inactivity = scum
half of town greenchecks me = scum
gets mislynched and I'm at final 3 = conversion must be scum
?? I even admitted it was a lazy read with a bias
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On August 01 2017 01:18 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2017 00:59 Conversion wrote:On August 01 2017 00:40 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 23:34 Koshi wrote:On July 31 2017 23:22 darthfoley wrote:
Koshi, come help me understand Superbia and btdt. Allow me to enter into your Belgian cranium and utilize the little gray cells What do you need help with? Both are playing quite straight forward atm. I don't know whether Superbia's pressure on Conversion is good town play or good mafia play, basically. Conversion's entrance is pretty shit, but I get the feeling Superbia vs. Conversion is TvM but i'm not sure who's who. Who are your town reads? Could you explain why you think it's TvM instead of TvT? your over defensiveness and bad thread entrance gives reason for you to be mafia. But superbia has also felt kind of off to me tone-wise. It just felt kind of like a manufactured fight in some way. Should probably reread it today and figure it out
ok thanks just wanted to clarify yours stance
also @copcake, BTDT is right in that he jumped on pressuring me first. #260, why did you think that he was sheeping behind Superbia? could have just checked that v. easily through his filter
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well here's what I found important in HF's translated messages. rest of it was about Warcraft and Rexxar
maybe I missed something? also run through google translate so shrug on the accuracy
+ Show Spoiler +In the news today it was found that the first 24 hours of the game were for the actions of the enemy of the state.
Recently, a recent passport official-bribe-taker and government official for bribery was discovered.
A man with a bear is looking for matches for a hideous conspiracy. Be warned that trade with this person is strictly prohibited.
A person with a dial also has fire sticks.
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so Rexxar = ruxxar = bad person?
citizen's meetings = dog of passport = rsoultin bc you put a shiba on her entry approved?
...?
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I'm not even sure what's going on or if I should take HF seriously or he can tell me if I'm wrong or right
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so HF is constrained to speak russian until some condition is met/the entire game I'm assuming
For those on mobile:
+ Show Spoiler +The editor needs new sources, but he can not do anything without talking in editorial form. Please do not ignore the editor's requests for help. The government forces me to do this. I forgot my language.
Do not let a man with a bear deceive you all.
I still can't deduce anyone else besides ruxxar being the man with the bear
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On August 01 2017 03:23 Superbia wrote:
Conversion why you still voting for your town read (me)?
I'm taking it off now
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I mean I'm going to clarify my stance right now while I have small breathing room at work
I signed up for this game thinking it was just a closed set up for a vanilla game, then came 24hours late to a game where people were spamming Papers, Please spam and HF posting in Russian, and reading that I didn't have a role on the 29th (game start?) then reading a day later (aka the day I came into the game) having a role
caught on that it wasn't a vanilla game, so I'm trying but half the game is just people making obscure messages to try and have other people catch on and the other half is pressuring others to make cases
apologies if that makes me a subpar town, but I'm still not at all very clear on what to do except scumhunt through all things that go again
and if that makes me scum (on top of all my other posts), then so be it. the mistakes were 100% on me anyways for forgetting that I signed up for a mafia game
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On August 01 2017 05:36 CopCake wrote:
I think I am the baker cop
he edited his quote to be police cop some time recent idr what post. you were baker driver at one point I think-- found that pretty hilarious
also anyone find it weird how fast this information seems to come? and how sporadic it is, or is that normal? I definitely find HF's powers pretty fishy... like the erratic timing and how fast he seems to "receive" information just feels off to me
ruxxar tunneling in copcake (driver bakery as HF calls it) and refusing to give reads elsewhere is counter-intuitive to what I believe is good town play, but hesitant to 100% scumcall the behavior
HF could also be trolling in russian and trailing to his supposed power of the bad person (ruxxar) and trying to guide town to a mislynch, in which he can say his sources were bad or something? that seems possible
my list is relatively the same still. i think there's definitely one mafia between HF and ruxxar at this point.
recap of list:
town:
btdt
rsoultin
Sort of town:
Superbia
CopCake
Damdred
Tumblewood
Koshi
DF
null read:
VA -- seems to be some sort of druggie roleplay? no idea how to read him, seems to want to stay on TT
rels -- seems his usual play is not to do much D1/D2 wants a map now..
slightly scum:
TT - somehow missed his filter. reading his posts i can see why people think i am scum-- unsubstantiative posts, doesn't say much, tries to seem active. less angry/emotional than i am for sure
altho TT did disclaim long work hours, so reluctant to peg 100% scum until TT gets a chance to reply
++ points to TT after more posts. nothing substantial yet again
HF vs ruxxar as 2nd scum imo, unless HF's powers are screwy and he gets false information fed to him
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EBWOP:
On August 01 2017 05:45 Conversion wrote:he edited his quote to be police cop some time recent idr what post. you were baker driver at one point I think-- found that pretty hilarious also anyone find it weird how fast this information seems to come? and how sporadic it is, or is that normal? I definitely find HF's powers pretty fishy... like the erratic timing and how fast he seems to "receive" information just feels off to me ruxxar tunneling in copcake (driver bakery as HF calls it) and refusing to give reads elsewhere is counter-intuitive to what I believe is good town play, but hesitant to 100% scumcall the behavior HF could also be trolling in russian and trailing to his supposed power of the bad person (ruxxar) and trying to guide town to a mislynch, in which he can say his sources were bad or something? that seems possible my list is relatively the same still. i think there's definitely one mafia between HF and ruxxar at this point. recap of list: town: btdt rsoultin Sort of town: Superbia CopCake Damdred Tumblewood Koshi DF null read: VA -- seems to be some sort of druggie roleplay? no idea how to read him, seems to want to stay on TT.. wants a map and LSD now..? rels -- seems his usual play is not to do much D1/D2 slightly scum: TT - somehow missed his filter. reading his posts i can see why people think i am scum-- unsubstantiative posts, doesn't say much, tries to seem active. less angry/emotional than i am for sure altho TT did disclaim long work hours, so reluctant to peg 100% scum until TT gets a chance to reply ++ points to TT after more posts. nothing substantial yet again HF vs ruxxar as 2nd scum imo, unless HF's powers are screwy and he gets false information fed to him
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On August 01 2017 05:55 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2017 05:50 CopCake wrote:Now I have to think on Holyflair ![[image loading]](http://pa1.narvii.com/6149/533134dc40970a84f028402867300ab93d1edf00_hq.gif) (if I remembered one pls correct) - Holyflair claimed town - Then that doesnt know - He claimed he knew what he was when Superbia asked if there was a person that could hand in passports. Holyflair was that person who took that role. -Holyflair was the first person that reacted to role updates (newspaper boy) - Then he stopped to post newspapers and just started to talk in russian I meant missremember, sorry for this.
seems accurate
his russian "journalist" posts are basically incriminating ruxxar as a bad person according to his role, and some other references to other people I'm not understanding besides baker driver/police/cop, which is you
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On August 01 2017 05:58 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 19:05 Holyflare wrote:
Паспортный фальсификатор против штата Арстоцка.
Недавно был обнаружен недавний паспортный чиновник-подкупщик и правительственный чиновник по взяточничеству.
Правительственные чиновники заявляют, что этот человек, который ходил с медведем, обвинял известного певца-вора в сотрудничестве с движением подпольного Народного фронта.
В отчетах утверждается, что воровский певец выставлял риторику о назначенных правительственных ролях и шпионах среди граждан, несмотря на то, что там было только несколько назначенных ролей.
Человек с медведем отказывается от людей, которые были шпионами, попытался бы смешаться, сказав, что они граждане, когда на самом деле многим людям не было предоставлено право на въезд в государство. Человек с медведем не может выбрать редактора в качестве доказательства того, что воришка-пекарня верна и вместо этого пытается восстать против упомянутого вора.
Человек с медведем и поддельный паспорт возглавляет Народный фронт.
bolded part in google translate:
The person with the bear refuses people who were spies, would try to mix up, saying that they are citizens when in fact many people were not granted the right to enter the state. The person with the bear can not choose the editor as evidence that the thief-bakery is right and instead tries to rebel against the thief mentioned.
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came to the conclusion that HF is probably just pushing his opinions in russian rather than having some sort of power contemplating his actions yesterday, it seems less of "ruxxar is 100% mafia by my powers" and more of "I think ruxxar is mafia, lynch"
fits his behavior methinks from what i read of him in my filter/meta dive last game
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which brings me to doubt my call on ruxxar vs HF having a mafia between them
esp. because I really like ruxxar's posts while I was asleep and I don't want to lynch someone this active/pushing people D1
hmm
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