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On August 05 2017 03:04 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 02:57 darthfoley wrote:On August 05 2017 01:32 ruXxar wrote: What if the mafia team is HF, BTDT and Conversion.
I remember last game BTDT played as scum and he made up a crazy theory to explain the night kills where the scum team had a strong arm 1 shot vigi.
Turns out he was actually telling the truth even though no one believed him.
It's possible BTDT is scum and shot copcake because he's mafia and copcake wanted to lynch him. Copcake was a relatively easy lynch for mafia to orchestrate though. It doesn't make sense for scum to shoot to Copcake unless it's just WIFOM or something idk Does it make more sense to shoot rsoul, with the russian disease? I dont think so.
That's also true. Neither kill makes any sense unless some mafia people had some sort of information about their roles, or their reads were super correct (but i'm not mafia so i don't buy that.)
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On August 05 2017 03:26 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 03:21 darthfoley wrote:On August 05 2017 03:04 ruXxar wrote:On August 05 2017 02:57 darthfoley wrote:On August 05 2017 01:32 ruXxar wrote: What if the mafia team is HF, BTDT and Conversion.
I remember last game BTDT played as scum and he made up a crazy theory to explain the night kills where the scum team had a strong arm 1 shot vigi.
Turns out he was actually telling the truth even though no one believed him.
It's possible BTDT is scum and shot copcake because he's mafia and copcake wanted to lynch him. Copcake was a relatively easy lynch for mafia to orchestrate though. It doesn't make sense for scum to shoot to Copcake unless it's just WIFOM or something idk Does it make more sense to shoot rsoul, with the russian disease? I dont think so. That's also true. Neither kill makes any sense unless some mafia people had some sort of information about their roles, or their reads were super correct (but i'm not mafia so i don't buy that.) I said that here: Show nested quote +On August 04 2017 20:30 ruXxar wrote: This doesn't make much sense either.
Silencing and killing seems like 2 separate and redundant actions. If you've done the first, there's no need for the second.
This seems to suggest that perhaps there is a different source for the disease and the killing, or that the killing was not due to mafia at all.
I can not see how killing rsoul was in any way optimal for mafia due to her play and her already russian disease.
This brings me to think that it's her role and powers they were afraid of. It might be something she crumbed and her interaction with conversion. The fact that conversion offered something to rsoul could be part of the reason why she's dead.
Yes, that's right. I've been primarily on mobile for the past couple days so all this QT and Russian stuff is quite annoying and has been hard to follow. Too many mechanics flying all over the place
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I really cba to ever try to read HF's filter so there's that
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On August 05 2017 03:43 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 03:30 darthfoley wrote:On August 05 2017 03:26 ruXxar wrote:On August 05 2017 03:21 darthfoley wrote:On August 05 2017 03:04 ruXxar wrote:On August 05 2017 02:57 darthfoley wrote:On August 05 2017 01:32 ruXxar wrote: What if the mafia team is HF, BTDT and Conversion.
I remember last game BTDT played as scum and he made up a crazy theory to explain the night kills where the scum team had a strong arm 1 shot vigi.
Turns out he was actually telling the truth even though no one believed him.
It's possible BTDT is scum and shot copcake because he's mafia and copcake wanted to lynch him. Copcake was a relatively easy lynch for mafia to orchestrate though. It doesn't make sense for scum to shoot to Copcake unless it's just WIFOM or something idk Does it make more sense to shoot rsoul, with the russian disease? I dont think so. That's also true. Neither kill makes any sense unless some mafia people had some sort of information about their roles, or their reads were super correct (but i'm not mafia so i don't buy that.) I said that here: On August 04 2017 20:30 ruXxar wrote: This doesn't make much sense either.
Silencing and killing seems like 2 separate and redundant actions. If you've done the first, there's no need for the second.
This seems to suggest that perhaps there is a different source for the disease and the killing, or that the killing was not due to mafia at all.
I can not see how killing rsoul was in any way optimal for mafia due to her play and her already russian disease.
This brings me to think that it's her role and powers they were afraid of. It might be something she crumbed and her interaction with conversion. The fact that conversion offered something to rsoul could be part of the reason why she's dead. Yes, that's right. I've been primarily on mobile for the past couple days so all this QT and Russian stuff is quite annoying and has been hard to follow. Too many mechanics flying all over the place Yeah me too. Is there some easy way to read the russian stuff on the phone? I have an iphone and it sucks copy pasting into google translate LOL.
Nah, i've been manually doing it that way until i get frustrated enough to stop.
I hope you're mafia for the sake of the game, but I tip my hat to you for the insane effort you're putting in regardless of your alignment. Giving us juicy things to think about regardless 
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On August 05 2017 04:31 ruXxar wrote:Final list, mostly gut feelings. Townies: Koshi. Conversion. HF. BTDT. Darthfoley. ---- Possible scumsies: VA. TW. Rels. Damdred. --- WP scum, you're hiding yourselves well. Well that's it. Gonna go play some tekken on my new etokki. Enjoy the rest of the game folks! 
Who do you trust most out of your townies? Were they in order?
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so i've moved into a new apartment but i'm in the middle of nowhere and haven't set up my internet yet. have spotty connection; i'll try my best to be as active as possible. no promises.
maybe i'll get lucky and get afflicted with the russian disease!
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I haven't really read that closely recently but I guess i'll look over ruxxar's latest posts.
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On August 05 2017 00:31 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 00:28 Holyflare wrote: Я не читал, что писал Х.Ф., но вот о нем читал. Лол. Before I go: Fuck you. Fuck your arrogant way of doing stuff. Fuck your toxic insults, fuck your abysmal bullshittery. Of course I have skimmed the QT. I did not read into every little detail of what you said, I didn't even have the time to do so. But I have seen your frustration about talking russian. I see the chain of posts you did. And I townread you for it. If you want to belittle me because I dare to give a read, then keep going, but if you were in front of me in real life right now, I'd punch you in your fucking face and I'd feel great about it. You are an arrogant fuck, Holyflare, and you're so confident in being the best out there that I have enough.
what are your reads?
also, are you ever going to tell us what english speaking HF is saying in the QT? I guess Conversion can also help us with that question.
The fact that you've hard defended both people up for lynch (me and ruxxar) back to back and been right about both is just spooking me man
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there are too many mechanics man. i don't know who's doing what to whom
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damdred probably scum i guess? no idea outside that. rels has played a pretty clean game. VA and TW have basically been mechanics obsessed this whole game, which is more likely to come from mafia POV.
feels great having no solid reads at this point. btdt probably town for his play so far. that's about it.
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conversion has just been... there.
i don't think he ever responded to my question of when he changed his read of me from town --> scum, and why. maybe he's scum and superbia was right. his entrance was pretty trash and now i'm thinking superbia's read of him was just really spot on (like my d1 read of xatalos a few games ago)
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Well I made BTDT the kingmaker so if he's mafia and put his two King options as his scum mates they can decide the lynch and end the game.
So if that's the case just do it and end this god forsaken game.
And three alive people are still speaking Russian. Kill me now
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On August 06 2017 07:12 Holyflare wrote: Df, какова ваша роль?
Im the Kingmaker-Maker. I already claimed
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I doubt there are mafia at this point.
A towns wincon is to kill another town? Nah. I'm over this game anyways.
I gave btdt my one time power of choosing two people to be King last night. He chose HF who could kill whoever he wanted with a simple command.
I #learned role N1 and got back nothing in return so I guess I don't have any hidden mechanics. I just learned about my box of matches and that shit was complicated
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The permanent Russian mechanic was by far the worst mechanic in the game and should never be replicated. Literally took all the fun out of trying to read 4!! players.
Idk I'm salty af about that. Whatever
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On August 06 2017 08:14 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2017 08:13 ruXxar wrote: LOL. Koshi intentionally made his scum buddy HF speak russian all game. I'm not even mad. neither HF nor I were targeted p: we could speak english if we wanted to
I called this shit early. There's literally no way to call someone out on it besides lynching them. That's dumb
Zzzz
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On August 06 2017 08:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2017 08:13 ruXxar wrote: LOL. Koshi intentionally made his scum buddy HF speak russian all game. I'm not even mad. no he didn't, HF just started speaking in russian when Koshi told what he can do. Mid phase... and noone cared... 
Everyone cared??? How were we supposed to know otherwise?
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On August 06 2017 08:18 beentheredonethat wrote: I mean yeah nice move scum to speak russian
But the mechanic itself makes this game unplayable. I didnt read rels, rsoul, hf and Damdred as soom as they spoke russian.
+1. There also doesn't seem to be any Town mechanic to check whether they've been silenced or anything
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