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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 13 2017 17:30 GMT
#662
Ja. If you hate getting N1'd why not smurf?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 13 2017 17:38 GMT
#664
rayn, if you're 100% on VA that means you have your absolute scumteam in VA, Ruxxar, geript?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 13 2017 17:43 GMT
#667
On July 14 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 02:38 Skynx wrote:
rayn, if you're 100% on VA that means you have your absolute scumteam in VA, Ruxxar, geript?


Where are you going with this

Cuz thats pretty optimistic having to have 3 very strong townreads in 1st 24 hours. I'm curious how he progresses his Ruxxar read as i think they are both town.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 13 2017 17:46 GMT
#668
Also Damdred, I don't like you buddying geript solely based on meta and feels.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 13 2017 17:49 GMT
#671
On July 14 2017 02:47 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 02:43 Skynx wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:38 Skynx wrote:
rayn, if you're 100% on VA that means you have your absolute scumteam in VA, Ruxxar, geript?


Where are you going with this

Cuz thats pretty optimistic having to have 3 very strong townreads in 1st 24 hours. I'm curious how he progresses his Ruxxar read as i think they are both town.


Town reads??!

scumreads my bad
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 13 2017 18:03 GMT
#674
On July 14 2017 02:55 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 02:43 Skynx wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:38 Skynx wrote:
rayn, if you're 100% on VA that means you have your absolute scumteam in VA, Ruxxar, geript?


Where are you going with this

Cuz thats pretty optimistic having to have 3 very strong townreads in 1st 24 hours. I'm curious how he progresses his Ruxxar read as i think they are both town.


Me and who else is town? Geript?

Also, why does it matter how many scum reads he has?

Yes, I like geript for his reactions when rayn pushed him, felt natural and logical to me.

When I have too many scumreads i tell myself "ok thats prolly not all right" and reconsider most of them. Believe or not this stuff helps later on, they all add to general value of how you consider other people are scumhunting. That helped for example we couldn't catch rayn last game cuz he didn't reveal anything and just barked Rels is scum all game long.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 13 2017 18:08 GMT
#675
Man Damdred tr'ing geript this hard while telling this little just bugs me a lot. btdt had a similar Koshi read I picked up on last game which came out of nowhere and kicked myself for lynching him that late.

Damdred please explaing geript and tina reads. I'm not buying the dull and boring on tina, she's not playing a town game at any rate until now which is pretty obvious but why not tell it that way?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 13 2017 18:18 GMT
#679
On July 14 2017 03:14 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 03:03 Skynx wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:55 ruXxar wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:43 Skynx wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:38 Skynx wrote:
rayn, if you're 100% on VA that means you have your absolute scumteam in VA, Ruxxar, geript?


Where are you going with this

Cuz thats pretty optimistic having to have 3 very strong townreads in 1st 24 hours. I'm curious how he progresses his Ruxxar read as i think they are both town.


Me and who else is town? Geript?

Also, why does it matter how many scum reads he has?

Yes, I like geript for his reactions when rayn pushed him, felt natural and logical to me.

When I have too many scumreads i tell myself "ok thats prolly not all right" and reconsider most of them. Believe or not this stuff helps later on, they all add to general value of how you consider other people are scumhunting. That helped for example we couldn't catch rayn last game cuz he didn't reveal anything and just barked Rels is scum all game long.


Sure, but 3 scum reads is within the realm of actual mafia in the game, so it's not too many.

And he is re-evaluating.
Just earlier he was deadest on me being mafia.
Now he is die hard wanting to lynch VA.
I would say he is evolving his reads.

Thats pretty much the point of me asking. I didn't really notice him dropping read on you.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 13 2017 18:19 GMT
#680
I dunno about this version of Koshi, will have to wait and see I guess. Might be just to avoid N1 kill.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 13 2017 18:43 GMT
#691
On July 14 2017 03:34 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 03:08 Skynx wrote:
Man Damdred tr'ing geript this hard while telling this little just bugs me a lot. btdt had a similar Koshi read I picked up on last game which came out of nowhere and kicked myself for lynching him that late.

Damdred please explaing geript and tina reads. I'm not buying the dull and boring on tina, she's not playing a town game at any rate until now which is pretty obvious but why not tell it that way?


Err have you even read my posts at this point? I've explained both of my reads pretty decently go this point.

You make it sound like I haven't said anything when I literally just have a fairly long reads list not even 3 pages ago probably?

I can read your filter. All i see is meta and 'just trust me'.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 13 2017 18:45 GMT
#692
On July 14 2017 03:37 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 03:19 Skynx wrote:
I dunno about this version of Koshi, will have to wait and see I guess. Might be just to avoid N1 kill.


SL insisted that this was planned by koshi.
Koshi himself insists that different doesn't mean mafia(blue).

From my point of view, like I told koshi last game, I was really excited to play with him again since he was such an interesting upbeat funny jesting dude to play with that had god reads.

This game I can't even recognize him.
Everything about him is just wrong.

I'm not gonna buy the blue bait, I want him to become his old self.

And if he doesn't, then he is mafia and can die.

It's sort of a trend in this last 6 months or so where his mafia game became too obvious cuz he's just so out there as town so i don't blame him for changing styles as he's either easy to read as mafia or gets nk'd d1 every game.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 13 2017 18:49 GMT
#695
On July 14 2017 03:32 Tumblewood wrote:
ok i'm back and i caught up to page 25 before skimming this last page. um new stuff:

if rsoul is scum i doubt she thinks that posting squiggly nothings is not a good way to get town cred, so imma go with town
skynx and damdred have ummmmm good tone
rayn is getting into stupid arguments that i think he knows no one can win. i wanna say he's scum but first lemme make sure i didn't make this same read in that other game where i called him scum d1 and i was wrong

also:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2017 21:28 Holyflare wrote:
This game is making me glaze over from the boring generic arguments you guys are having.
this could be my new sig

literally no one ever calls my D1 town.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 13 2017 19:08 GMT
#698
On July 14 2017 03:58 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 03:43 Skynx wrote:
On July 14 2017 03:34 Damdred wrote:
On July 14 2017 03:08 Skynx wrote:
Man Damdred tr'ing geript this hard while telling this little just bugs me a lot. btdt had a similar Koshi read I picked up on last game which came out of nowhere and kicked myself for lynching him that late.

Damdred please explaing geript and tina reads. I'm not buying the dull and boring on tina, she's not playing a town game at any rate until now which is pretty obvious but why not tell it that way?


Err have you even read my posts at this point? I've explained both of my reads pretty decently go this point.

You make it sound like I haven't said anything when I literally just have a fairly long reads list not even 3 pages ago probably?

I can read your filter. All i see is meta and 'just trust me'.


The reasoning I used on Tina is not totally meta based like you are implying.

Geript might be highly meta based but I know he's town.

On July 13 2017 10:59 Damdred wrote:
I'm right about geript 100% rayb.

And rux Idk what you want exactly me to take her post and just mark everything as boring? Like it by itself does make her mafia, and it doesn't necessarily even make her mafia. I'd just rather lynch Tina when she acts a certain way over someone like you who I don't know how to read yet and don't have enough information on.

I misread this, my bad. I thought you meant tina acts a certain way as in a certain way she plays normally.

On July 13 2017 11:08 Damdred wrote:
For the record rux probably is town at this point just vfor the sheer ampint of prodding and trying to find answers that generally scum wouldn't care about.

Maybe he's a show high skill summer and I'm unaware. But scum shouldn't care that I'm halfway talking about policy lynching tina, (unless they are scum together at least)


And as for your experience with Tina rux, I think the quality of her posts as town etc at much higher than her scum posts even though she tried hard as scum.

But that's neither here or there. I would say maybe put lot I the lurkers into the maybe lynch but that's meh.

Still some meta here but re-reading i can kinda see your pow now.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 13 2017 19:20 GMT
#700
On July 14 2017 04:01 ruXxar wrote:
TW is right, I also like your tone skynx.

You have an analytical, critical yet patient and non-derogatory demeanor about you.

I enjoy reading your posts and talking to you.

I enjoy talking to you too dear. My gf doesn't have to know.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 14 2017 10:47 GMT
#860
Geript did you just copy my case on rayn and projected on me as "half truths"?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 14 2017 10:50 GMT
#862
On July 14 2017 17:39 Holyflare wrote:
I'm killing you tonight and then lynching damdred. Deal with ittttt.

Mafia claim?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 14 2017 10:54 GMT
#864
On July 14 2017 18:52 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 18:40 geript wrote:
You saying he's analytical when that's basically not the meaning of the word


He made a big case on Rayn = analytical.

That's all there is to it.

He's accusing me of having a bullshit case, rest of it is dumb as fuck. If you find my case analytical and like my tone then how can you scumread me at all??
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 14 2017 10:58 GMT
#866
Thats not true, analytical and bullshit at the same time is misleading case, usually = mafia.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 14 2017 11:25 GMT
#885
Anyway,

On July 14 2017 05:53 geript wrote:
Here's the reasons why I really want to lynch Skynx:

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On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
I haven't completely read everything yet but I hate rayn most of everyone in the thread so far.

I always hate this sort of shit. It's a bland flat out statement that says that everything in the post is able to be ignored.

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On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
I mean ok valid point but then they both keep on producing 3-4 pages of filter of absolutely nothing of value. This is the argument and thats it.

Anyway thats not the main point:

If ruxxar is mafia, doesn't that also make EC mafia? I mean you're scumreading Ruxxar for not enforcing his argument, which you consider the best post at the time.

The funny thing is that this prima facie is an ok summary. But the thing is that it's also irrelevant. It's kinda inconsistent of Rayn to apply X to Rux and not to EC, but that's how the world works. This is just pointing out an instance where there's an inconsistency which literally goes no where.

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On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
That means you like the idea behind and if you actually paid attention, you would realise that makes EC mafia. Yet you post nothing on EC and focus on Ruxxar.

On top of that, if you actually think Ruxxar is mafia and if you are town, even if you don't notice it EC is mafia at the same time, that means Ruxxar is just attempting to bus his teammate as the first real action in the thread??

rayn's action don't add up here, not posting anything on EC is prolly the worst but he's just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion.

Skynx bothers to expand a decent bit on the inconsistency. But to what point?

The real kicker is here:
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On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
This is the 'case' on geript. One post he calls terrible, doesn't explain why its terrible and that is enough for him to put geript into his 100% scumpile. Then he accuses Ruxxar for having bad reasons to scumread geript. Then geript makes a nice sizeable post, explaining his thought process and why nothing already been said doesn't make sense and this just gets ridiculed.

I posted my explanation here. Rayn posted his scumread on me 14 posts earlier here.

***BIG POINT READ THIS***
Skynx hasn't bothered to actually read Rayn's point. He's just picking at inconsistencies. Even worse, he hasn't read the whole thread, thinks Rayn is scum, AND HASN'T EVEN BOTHERED TO FILTER RAYN. Like the first thing you do when you think someone is scum is fucking filter them.

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On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
rayn's [...] just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion.
[...]
I think rayn is a massive town distractive pile of scum trash. He's just talking a lot and hoping people would listen to him when he says "This guy is scum just follow me".

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On July 13 2017 21:02 Skynx wrote:
On July 13 2017 20:59 Holyflare wrote:
Hey rayn. If you thought the case ruxxar posted to ec was good and ec didn't answer it properly why do you not engage ec on it?

Good point.


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On July 14 2017 02:08 Skynx wrote:
On July 13 2017 22:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So skynx when you are off from the break here is the last thing i am gonna say about this:
You have three options:

1) I am town and i actually came to this game with a plan of yolo-townreading Koshi and Holyflare from the get go and focusing on posting something semi-garbage and figuring out connections thinking they would lead a day 1 lynch (as they are good at it, even if one of them is town) and then i would sheep and lay out all the shit i have on N1. Then i figured out ruxxar is mafia so i couldn't help myself stopping what i was doing and playing the game normally.

2) I am mafia and EC is mafia. I called ruxxar's post on him good (i think that's what you're trying to say?) and then i called out ruxxar for his case i know is good (since EC is mafia with me -- right?). And you think i am gonna roll with that? I must be the worst mafia player of all times.

3) I am mafia and EC is town. I called ruxxar's post on him good (i think that's what you're trying to say?) and then i called out ruxxar for his case i know is bad. And i could just go with the good case instead? I am directly contradicting myself and i came up with some bullshit reasoning (see (1)) before all of this happened? You should tell me I am a wizard!




Before you say "but that's what you are accusing geript of", no, it is not. geript looks like he did stuff and had the answers for possible concerns beforehand already, if you read what happened here and think i did the same then... again, you're a wizard harry.

+ Show Spoiler [only for tina's eyes] +
and no, that 1-day mafia was a one time thing. superbia fucked up imo and i thought i didn't have a choise. i always have a choise at the start of normal D1.

I think you are town now btw but if you had a plan and deviate from it means you're very sure on Ruxxar sr and all i get is the same thing over and over again.

Rayn is legit spamming the thread, something that's only gotten worse as the day has gone on. Skynx +1's a HF post on it. And 5 hours later is magically a townread.

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On July 14 2017 03:03 Skynx wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:55 ruXxar wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:43 Skynx wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:38 Skynx wrote:
rayn, if you're 100% on VA that means you have your absolute scumteam in VA, Ruxxar, geript?


Where are you going with this

Cuz thats pretty optimistic having to have 3 very strong townreads in 1st 24 hours. I'm curious how he progresses his Ruxxar read as i think they are both town.


Me and who else is town? Geript?

Also, why does it matter how many scum reads he has?

Yes, I like geript for his reactions when rayn pushed him, felt natural and logical to me.

People who have never played with me before almost always think I'm scummy. Almost without exception. Additionally, I tend to have a very meandering logic to my thought process. So a player without any experience with me, finding my posts "natural and logical" is fucking alarm bells all over the place.
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On July 14 2017 03:08 Skynx wrote:
Damdred please explaing geript and tina reads. I'm not buying the dull and boring on tina, she's not playing a town game at any rate until now which is pretty obvious but why not tell it that way?

Has read damdred's post on tina which is here but not the read on me which is here which is 5 fucking posts before it.

TLDR
1. Skynx downplays his own post
2. Skynx picks at trivial things
3. Skynx doesn't bother to filter Rayn
4. Skynx is legit not reading while trying to make it seem like he has


I always hate this sort of shit. It's a bland flat out statement that says that everything in the post is able to be ignored.

How does that mean that? What i said up to that point doesn't change with what he did after a certain point in the thread? In my world what he did there associated him with EC as possible partners.

The funny thing is that this prima facie is an ok summary. But the thing is that it's also irrelevant. It's kinda inconsistent of Rayn to apply X to Rux and not to EC, but that's how the world works. This is just pointing out an instance where there's an inconsistency which literally goes no where.

Fuck you. This is just a sugar coated ridicule. Thats the main point of my case, its not irrelevant, its the deliberate ignoring application of facts between two players. It doesn't go nowhere, i vote him, he defends, I don't agree with him, i stay. Fuck you again.

I don't see where are you going with this. "To what point" what? If you don't find my scumread on him genuine thats like your opinion man, not a fact so don't present it like that.

***BIG POINT READ THIS***
Skynx hasn't bothered to actually read Rayn's point. He's just picking at inconsistencies. Even worse, he hasn't read the whole thread, thinks Rayn is scum, AND HASN'T EVEN BOTHERED TO FILTER RAYN. Like the first thing you do when you think someone is scum is fucking filter them.

Yes thanks for big announcers, you already pointed out that I haven't read it the whole thing.

Rayn is legit spamming the thread, something that's only gotten worse as the day has gone on. Skynx +1's a HF post on it. And 5 hours later is magically a townread.

So? What about the +1? HF liked my points im trying to get him on board here. Isn't that pushing my idea? But you try to paint me like i just don't do anything about rayn? Fuck you again.

People who have never played with me before almost always think I'm scummy. Almost without exception. Additionally, I tend to have a very meandering logic to my thought process. So a player without any experience with me, finding my posts "natural and logical" is fucking alarm bells all over the place.

A random meta read. It's not even meta its just what you think of what other people think about you. Again its not a fact, you're like BBC, with the "almost without exception". rayn's point about you was bullshit, your defence post was good. If i dont find it dogshit calling me scum for it is just dumb. Fuck you again.

Has read damdred's post on tina which is here but not the read on me which is here which is 5 fucking posts before it.

I've already discussed this with damdred, i've read everything he had to say about you which was only "meta". Nothing more.

TL:DR
1) is wrong
2) I don't know what this means? Whats your point?
3) Doesn't make me scum
4) I said at the beginning I haven't read everything, i made a case up to whatever point i've read because i caught on to something. I'm not trying to pretend anything, i claim at the beginning. You're just wrong.

You making a TL;DR for others while accusing me of not reading the thread is a roflable hypocrysie on its own.

I don't think this is sort of a case that comes from town, as you're not deluded here, you're just trying to paint me as scum with clever wording and none of what you said actually makes me scum. That last "meta" point is just trademark scumcase closer, trying to add a random point just to add more flavor. I've seen it so many times.

##Vote: geript
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 14 2017 11:27 GMT
#888
Congratz geript you got me triggered.
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