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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 12:13 GMT
#2503
Assuming masons this is my town:
Holyflare
Damdred
geript

These people look like town to me, but aren't quite locked:
Skynx: I think a lot of his points that he's made this game have been pretty wrong, plus low filter at this point isn't looking too great. The cases show that he's thinking like town imo, but I can't be completely convinced he's town. Otherwise we shared a lot of reads, and I did like that he came around on his case mid-day.

Tumblewood: has a few things going for him from previously for me, plus towny reaction around eod

sicklucker: I get the sense he's been floating by a bit this game. My town read is mostly based on tone, I don't feel he's made a stong push on anything except I guess for ruxxar lynch at the end of the day. This was super opportunistic though so can't give much credit on that. Eh, don't really have any reason to put him as stonger town or strong scum.

wtf zone
Vivax: this is some bullshit. Still bullshit that it's pretty much 50/50 based on other stuff with rsoul's spot. Strongly starting to suspect that he replaced into a red spot and didn't want to put any effort in.

Koshi
Rels

These guys both look bad to me, my case from earlier, first part with respect to rels.
On July 18 2017 04:30 emperorchampion wrote:
Your pushing me for bad reasons and refusing to re evaluate, especially on day 1. To me it looks like you're not taking a towny approach to anything that I write. Just looking for how it can make me scum. You have your top scum read here and you're not asking any interesting questions at all like 30 min ago. To be fair on this, I was pretty weak on this as well. But I know my excuse aka haven't slept in like 40 hours.

Like with this thing about va, Skynx backs off his own case and calls me town, you continue with some even more contrived reasons.


Koshi I stated some reasons for night 1. His day 1 could be trying to do this low post thing, but failing as mafia. The reads thing with damdred could be pretty weak, but it's still there. Otherwise his progression through the day was hella weird, I'm town, then maybe not, now scum. Yeah I should've looked more into this earlier. To be fair to myself I said beforehand I wasn't really gonna do much today. There are many other inconsistencies that hf pointed out with respect to the tumble meta thing.


Pretty much to me you both look worse than anyone else in this game at the moment.


I'm waffling a lot between koshi and rels. HF's read of rels as scum in the last quote block is conditioned on tumble being scum, a point that I'm not entirely sold on at the moment.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 12:40 GMT
#2505
Yeah it's possible. HF do you think there's always 1 scum in tumble/koshi?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 12:50 GMT
#2506
@Koshi: what precisely is your scum read on tumble based on?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 19:07 GMT
#2514
Skynx where you at on this game right now?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 19:12 GMT
#2516
I meant more what's your thoughts on the game lol
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 19:35 GMT
#2520
Mmm I feel a tad bad about rux, but yeah it's ok. How comfirmed are the masons to you?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 19:44 GMT
#2522
Mmm in retrospect claiming early is maybe the least scummy thing. Since later would be hella suspicious. Too much wifiom for me god damn
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 20:03 GMT
#2525
On July 19 2017 04:58 Skynx wrote:
Damdred's first thing coming into the game (not long after the game started) was buddying geript without presenting any reason. If they are mafia they literally decided their entire gameplan in 2 hours.


Yeah I saw that, it's a little slower on geript's side was the only thing. damdred's filter looks pretty solid also, geript's is maybe better than I thought but I'm pretty salty about his tunnel.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 20:09 GMT
#2527
On July 19 2017 05:01 Skynx wrote:
SL has done 0 town things so far, stats provided by OptaJoe.


Yeah he's been pretty passive this game, but I can't get a good scum read since I don't think he's done anything particularly scummy either.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 20:12 GMT
#2528
On July 19 2017 05:05 Vivax wrote:
I'd put the mafia at Koshi, emc, one of Rels or Skynx atm.

TW has really improved his posting shape wise and his reads align with mine more or less (with exception of emc), but I'm afraid of TMI in his case and that he's trying to look shiny. For example I didn't like Ruxxars posting much during D1 and I'm not sure what made him townread him.

His read came down to this:

Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 14:54 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 14 2017 14:50 geript wrote:
On July 14 2017 14:37 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 14 2017 08:14 ruXxar wrote:
On July 14 2017 07:54 geript wrote:
So Rux... what did you think of my case on Skynx?


1. Skynx case on Rayn is flawed and based on half truths.
Basically it's a misguided failure.
Whether that is intentional or not is another point.

It fails to capture the minute details that you would have acquired by being here during the conversation and be engaged in the details of the postings.

In fact I thought Rayn made some really good points about you geript, which made you look bad and Rayn really good.

Especially the point about "for better reasons" and where Rayn says you don't actually go on to reveal these "better reasons".

Maybe I'm just biased, but to me clearly Rayn looked better from that.

I basically am getting deja vu of how btdt played last game, except skynx has more polish in the way he presents things.

Maybe I'm repeating the same mistake I did from last game by calling it bad/uninformed town, but skynx is not my #1 lynch today.

i think rux has gotta be town

Why?

well firstly i don't think scum!rux is attacking skynx's case on someone else because of minute details. that is a very not mafia reason
and since i made that post i caught up fully and i am 100% sure on this


I think this isn't a strong reason to have at the time, at least an explanation on what he would expect mafia to do instead would be appreciated.
Besides the TMI thing he gives off good vibes so not lynching him tomorrow.

Koshi for his minion entry followed up by a very funless unkoshiesque D1. Emc had a semi helpful entrance. Skynx case on rayn looked slightly over the top to me at the time.

I'm kind of slightly caught up on both ends of the game but the middle is lacking atm and most player filters as well, so I'm just going to post un caught up and out of my ass for a while since I really have no connection to this game yet.


Vivax: why scum read on me, and you think I'm trying to bus koshi since day 1?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 20:17 GMT
#2529
Vivax: after 100+ pages you're scum reading both koshi and I based on our entry post?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 20:21 GMT
#2532
Scum would try harder maybe right?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 20:27 GMT
#2534
Whoa. So tumble is scum for you koshi, who else?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 20:40 GMT
#2537
Yeah the meta is pretty weak since I recall ruxxar bringing up the exact opposite argument about a recent tumble scum game based on meta.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 20:49 GMT
#2543
On July 19 2017 05:44 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2017 17:33 Holyflare wrote:
Rels town reads ruxxar, scum reads ec and tw. Around at deadline and does nothing to save ruxxar or hammer tw. (saw him on battlerite at deadline time too) :p

100% wrong. I voted him last second exactly for that reason. Don't know why but my vote was done at 23:00 instead of 22:59. Turns out my vote didnt matter. But I hammered to lynch tw


Why did you wait till the last minute?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 20:49 GMT
#2544
On July 19 2017 05:47 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2017 17:39 Holyflare wrote:
On July 18 2017 04:45 Rels wrote:
On July 18 2017 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
Rels. Drop ec for now. Who is next lynch for you and why?

I'm not, it's the lynch I want. I would lynch TW over Koshi if it's between these two, but I don't think Koshi is scum.

On July 18 2017 05:49 Rels wrote:
On July 18 2017 05:47 Rels wrote:
lol TW showing up close to deadline only after becomiung the main wagon is a good sign

like, means he was probably monitering the thread. Percentage of chance is higher than just coincidence

On July 18 2017 06:10 Rels wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:09 Damdred wrote:
On July 18 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote:
koshi is 100% mafia and it's your fault he is not dying. i take 0% of the blame.
otherwise it's between rels, skynx, sl. or if there's another blue the masons could be scum, maybe. but if you do not lynching koshi tomorrow or you lynch ruxxar ever i will flame in postgame and obs


This felt and still feels like a town rage when he's getting lynched for stupid reasons in his mind.

maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator

On July 18 2017 06:17 Rels wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:14 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:10 Rels wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:09 Damdred wrote:
On July 18 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote:
koshi is 100% mafia and it's your fault he is not dying. i take 0% of the blame.
otherwise it's between rels, skynx, sl. or if there's another blue the masons could be scum, maybe. but if you do not lynching koshi tomorrow or you lynch ruxxar ever i will flame in postgame and obs


This felt and still feels like a town rage when he's getting lynched for stupid reasons in his mind.

maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator

how can i get this through to you? i was here for a few hours until 1, and then the thread died for a bit so i went and did something else — of course i'm going to show up before deadline. would you prefer i not show up at all?
and you know who else showed up near deadline only when they were the lead wagon? koshi
this is a big leap of faith to explain why someone who was active for most of the day would show up 15 minutes before deadline

lol you can explain it all you want, I can verify your IRL story. I can only remark that you were not there the period before EOD, but showed up just before deadline when you became the main wagon

On July 18 2017 06:23 Rels wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:19 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:17 Rels wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:14 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:10 Rels wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:09 Damdred wrote:
On July 18 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote:
koshi is 100% mafia and it's your fault he is not dying. i take 0% of the blame.
otherwise it's between rels, skynx, sl. or if there's another blue the masons could be scum, maybe. but if you do not lynching koshi tomorrow or you lynch ruxxar ever i will flame in postgame and obs


This felt and still feels like a town rage when he's getting lynched for stupid reasons in his mind.

maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator

how can i get this through to you? i was here for a few hours until 1, and then the thread died for a bit so i went and did something else — of course i'm going to show up before deadline. would you prefer i not show up at all?
and you know who else showed up near deadline only when they were the lead wagon? koshi
this is a big leap of faith to explain why someone who was active for most of the day would show up 15 minutes before deadline

lol you can explain it all you want, I can verify your IRL story. I can only remark that you were not there the period before EOD, but showed up just before deadline when you became the main wagon

the point is, your argument requires a major leap of faith when a simple explanation where i am town exists

no. The leap of faith is believing that it was a coincidence you came back just after becoming the main wagon. The simple explanation is taht you came back BECAUSE you became the main wagon.


Even says he would lynch tw over Koshi because he thinks koshi is town which implies he votes to save town reads. So WHERE was he when ruxxar, the guy he was hard defending all day, was up for lynch???

Burying tw without actually voting him and afking on ec, that's where.

ok no way this is town. Quoted every post instead of the relevant one


Which post is that?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 20:55 GMT
#2548
Rels, did you glean anything from pre flip about tumbles alignment?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 20:58 GMT
#2553
Eh just trying to figure out your alignment, play the game p:
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 21:06 GMT
#2557
Oh damn, rip in peace bro
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 18 2017 21:12 GMT
#2559
rels seems pretty fake mad in his posts, and his swap onto tumble is bs since the vote was inconsequential
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