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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 17 2017 21:22 GMT
#2419
I had the read....
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 17 2017 21:55 GMT
#2428
On July 18 2017 06:33 Koshi wrote:
my gf got "angry" and told me to turn off the screen when I literally started babbling without sense trying to grasp the Ruxxar lynch. And this happened before he got flipped.

Lynched for TMI. gj bois.

Too lazy to go back and look right now, but didn't Koshi basically use this argument against him earlier?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 26 2017 08:47 GMT
#3070
Masons also means he can check them for perfect checks. The thing is double innocent child in a mini setup is OP. It makes it easy for Town to shrink the lynch pool pretty dramatically to get off good lynches.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 26 2017 12:37 GMT
#3082
On July 26 2017 20:31 Holyflare wrote:
It's all right, it was clearly that time of month.

+ Show Spoiler +
July 14th 2017

Not funny.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 26 2017 14:02 GMT
#3098
On July 26 2017 22:24 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2017 22:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 26 2017 22:09 sicklucker wrote:
Maybe but you guys have way too much emotion for an internet guessing game

Yeah but you will never know what personal "insult" hits a person in their hard place. I bet i for example could make you feel the same if i just knew what to say (and vice versa). Some people don't think it is a big deal, others might, that's the point. For example if i was gay and you told me "you're just not making any sense because you're gay" repeatedly it is not okay, and i might take offense in it while for you it might not seem like a big deal. And it has nothing to do with a mafia game in the first place.


But nobody in this game said anything like this in the slightest. Only Ruxxar's comment alluded that rsoultin was acting a way because of something female. Which is why the whole ruse looked farcical to me.

I actually disagree with you. I don't remember the exact offending statements, but I know I had a read during the game that I thought rsoultin might be scum because she wasn't offended enough. Maybe my sensitivity is set a little higher because I'm a not-straight guy who lives in the bible belt, but I don't think so.
To give an example, one of my friends I can't make "Your Mom" jokes with because his mom died of cancer two days before I was supposed to go visit her. We've been friends since I was like 6 or 7; and our circle of friends were all very close with his family (even though we all still joke that she was a bit crazy and yelled at us to go to bed instead of playing video games). It's just an issue that even 5 years after the fact is a very sore spot. I get very heated when people I barely know make homophobic comments or gay jokes; to the point that when a patient made a homophobic slur against me, the staff I was working with didn't allow me to have a patient to prevent any sort of problems. If I were a mod, I hope I would've stopped the shit that went on in this game earlier.
I don't think there's a clear delineation of where I can point to and say, "This is over the line." Because it's ok to call people bad; there's also a point where calling someone bad repeatedly is over the line. I don't think everyone's line is going to be in the same place; lord know's palmar's isnt. But I think that when it comes to the historically oppressed (women, transgender, gay, non-white, etc.) we should err on the side of caution so everyone is capable of having fun.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 26 2017 14:08 GMT
#3099
On July 26 2017 22:59 Holyflare wrote:This game she was overboard buddy posting all squiggles and hearts. Adding femine as a descriptor for lots of hearts and squiggles I guess is inherently sexist due to being gendered but it in no way implies she is doing these things because she is female. Quite the contrary, I call her mafia for the buddy hearts.

This I think is a fine observation; I think it hits on whatever it was that I couldn't pick up on why I didn't like her early on. But it's not how it came across in game imo. To me, it came across as more "she's acting like more of a girl now;" which I think is why I didn't really follow up on or think about those comments seriously.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 26 2017 14:14 GMT
#3102
On July 26 2017 22:46 Skynx wrote:
Isn't there a rule like no sexism, religious, rape or holocaust jokes or something like that?

There is. The thing is that the TLMafia boards, because of the nature of the game, have a bit more lax enforcement. Any blatantly homophobic, sexist, over the line jokes, can and should be reported. However, the problem is that many times what would be ok to post here and what would be ok to post on the rest of the forums are entirely different. So because we tell everyone, especially newbies, to not use the report button and instead take it to the mod; some things don't get handled as swiftly as they would elsewhere. And most mods know to let TL mafia police itself unless it's blatantly over the line. In my years of being here, I think I've only used the report button twice and once was Robik.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 26 2017 14:21 GMT
#3106
On July 26 2017 23:15 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2017 23:08 geript wrote:
On July 26 2017 22:59 Holyflare wrote:This game she was overboard buddy posting all squiggles and hearts. Adding femine as a descriptor for lots of hearts and squiggles I guess is inherently sexist due to being gendered but it in no way implies she is doing these things because she is female. Quite the contrary, I call her mafia for the buddy hearts.

This I think is a fine observation; I think it hits on whatever it was that I couldn't pick up on why I didn't like her early on. But it's not how it came across in game imo. To me, it came across as more "she's acting like more of a girl now;" which I think is why I didn't really follow up on or think about those comments seriously.


And this is where I think all the signals were mixed. I was simply making mafia observations whereas other people read the context differently.

I get it.

And the problem is I know all of you off of the mafia game but clearly not enough that you know me as a person and what I'm like. I'm all about the inflammatory boundary pushing and trolling to make people laugh for sensitive topics and that doesn't translate well to a forum where you can't hear cadence and tone.

No I get it. A bit ago, I made a facebook post about how Wizards of the Coast has a problem and it's best seen in it's recent promo video because all the ladies in the promo video were fangirling. I was trying to make the point that WotC has basically hired people who are just "Yes men" and refuse to challenge stupid/bad ideas and mechanics; that wizards isn't hiring quality staff (regardless of gender). But it turned into a cluster fuck post where most people called me a sexist bigot and didn't listen to the point I was trying to make (or correct their misconception of my stance).
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 26 2017 18:11 GMT
#3135
Not lynching Koshi D2 was a major mistake. I should've been all over that band wagon. My problem is that I've seen Koshi give absolutely 0 fucks as both alignments and I like a few minor comments he made. Overall though, the Ruxxar Lynch on D2 was a fucking travesty because he was far from a good lynch then. Not lynching VA was much tougher IMO; I don't think there were any slam dunk cases around. We maybe could've pulled a lurker lynch for SL, but past that IDK. There weren't any slam dunk cases on D1 and there were a number of people who allowed the lurker scum to not be easy policy lynches.

Like here's the thing Rels. If you start playing and start to look towny on D2, you've helped scum get a more favorable lynch on D1. On D1, I think Rels, SL, Koshi, TW, Tina and maybe EC could've all been solid lynches as Lurker + questionable play. On D2, Rels removed himself from that list; maybe EC did too. IDK, I feel really good and bad about my EC reads this game (which I'm ok with since I haven't seen him before). IMO, the most important thing you can do as town is to remove yourself from the lynch list. If all townies are obviously town, then finding the right person to lynch becomes super easy. Even if they're just reasonably townie, people will find reasons to lynch someone else.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 26 2017 20:21 GMT
#3151
EC, you were different. I think part of it may be different play because you're blue (often blue and red appear similar to me at least). Part of it was definitely your approach to the Skynx case. Part of it was your reaction to the mason claim. Once you claimed cop, your play made total sense.
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