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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 16 2017 06:05 GMT
#1680
Skynx: your case on me is entirely based on you think I tmi'd VA. I'm telling you that's impossible. Your case is super weak.

You can literally come up with anything that I "could do" day two. But what things that have already happened fit this narrative you have in your head? It's complete bs.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 16 2017 06:08 GMT
#1681
On July 16 2017 14:58 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 14:29 emperorchampion wrote:
@tumble: please explain more your ruxxar read.

i don't really have a granular thing i can point to and say "this post is townie because xyz" but over the course of this game i have seen ruxxar as a player highly concerned with solving the game and little else. frankly it seems obvious to me and i have trouble understanding why so many people scumread him


Aight, can you quote some posts where he's solving the game. This is really a stumbling block for me atm
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 16 2017 06:13 GMT
#1682
Vivax hi??

Rels koshi?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 16 2017 06:39 GMT
#1684
For you is rux just too crazy to be scum? That's the thing that I remember most about your read.

For skynx, I'm at the point where making cases on 3 town so far is pretty meh but it doesn't make him scum. There's also the things earlier with the fake rage, his response when called out was also pretty meh. I feel pretty mixed on this also.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 16 2017 06:42 GMT
#1685
Also is there anything about sl that sticks out to you as scum?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 16 2017 07:55 GMT
#1688
@ ruxxar: do you remember if you had a town lock on tumble first, or him with you?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 16 2017 08:01 GMT
#1689
On July 16 2017 10:52 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 09:53 geript wrote:
@HF. I'd like to get your opinion on TW. IMO, he looks like a great flip (better than Rux). He seems to have a lot of opinions without many suppositions. Many of those opinions are correct and I don't think he was more than mediocre when I've played with him previously.


I'm reviewing my read on TW, who I previously had as lock town.

The reason for my lock town read, was a very strong tone and meta read from his first list post.

After now reviewing his filter again, my opinion on him has changed from locked town to free agent.

Here is one of my findings on why my opinion changed:

Here he says who he wants to lynch due to his Poe.
But more importantly he mentions the *order* in which he wants to lynch.

Indicating that this is his strongest scum reads from left to right:

Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 14:51 Tumblewood wrote:
the scary thing is i don't think hf is obvious mafia this game. idk what that's supposed to mean but i don't think i want to lynch him today

...

actually looking at the playerlist, if you remove everyone i had some reason to not wanna lynch today it's only 4 people. and that's ec/va/rels/koshi. so imma lynch into them in that order(ish) and then after than idk
but if i wanna actually be decent i'll have to filter people. tomorrow (TM)


HOWEVER.

When I question him later why EC is his primary scum read(as indicated from the post above), this is the response I get:

Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 01:52 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 01:50 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 01:46 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:52 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:49 Skynx wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:31 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:28 Skynx wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:25 ruXxar wrote:
VA. Tumblewood, rels.

Please vote.

What? TW was 100 town????


Yes?

What did he do wrong? What did Rels do wrong?


They haven't voted yet.

chill, i have like 5 hours left to do this


Why is EC scum?

i didn't say he is. i said he was one of four people i had no reason to townread, and right now i am filtering him


I find it suspicious that before even filtering his *primary* scum read, he has already determined the order in which he want to lynch his scum reads.

This tells me that he constructed the order in which he wanted to lynch people based on something else than their actual posts in the game.

This could be mafia wanting to push a lynch agenda suited to third agenda.

It really seemed to catch TW off-guard to be questioned about this, when he should've already had his reasons clear to him on the lynch order if he was town.


This is a fair point. I also don't remember anything about his filtering of me. Pretty sure he didn't post anything afterwards.

Like if you read my filter and you think I'm town, if you're town you say so. If you find something scummy you say so. If you're scum and you don't find anything to push you just leave it. Very interesting actually.

Tumble please answer this as well.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 16 2017 08:01 GMT
#1690
I think sl and skynx reaction to hf's claim were fairly towny
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 16 2017 08:28 GMT
#1691
Anyways, I'm off for a while
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 16 2017 10:30 GMT
#1696
On July 16 2017 19:19 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 16:55 emperorchampion wrote:
@ ruxxar: do you remember if you had a town lock on tumble first, or him with you?


Please explain why that is important to you.


I think that one of the reads could be a buddying attempt since there's an ok chance one of you are scum. Tumbles read seems a bit more suspicious at the moment given his most recent reply. To me seems possible that tumble gives you town lock as scum to help build allies with players that are in weaker situations.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 16 2017 10:40 GMT
#1698
On July 16 2017 19:32 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 12:46 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Skynx is not mafia.
Noone will never ever come into the game as mafia making a case on someone and at the same time being completely aware they haven't even read the half of what the said dude said. Never.

wow, it's not often that a point is good enough that i actually listen to it. it's not infallible but it's a real good thing to consider and i think skynx is town


Why do you make this post now?
It's out of context.


How so out of context?

I respect rayns read, part of what makes me think that skynx could just be lazy so far. I don't think it's as alignment indicative as rayn tho. Tumbles response is kinda weird. Does tumble have other things supporting skynx town? I don't remember fully, just the part where he said that skynx wasn't an ideal off wagon. Not sure if this point alone is enough to justify a town read but depends on his previous stance to me.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 16 2017 10:47 GMT
#1700
His last response was really meh, like how can you town lock but not point out a single concrete reason why? Like if you're too lazy to filter the guy, then just say feels or that you're too lazy. So pretty interested in his further response on that.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 16 2017 11:01 GMT
#1702
On July 16 2017 19:47 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 19:40 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 16 2017 19:32 ruXxar wrote:
On July 16 2017 12:46 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Skynx is not mafia.
Noone will never ever come into the game as mafia making a case on someone and at the same time being completely aware they haven't even read the half of what the said dude said. Never.

wow, it's not often that a point is good enough that i actually listen to it. it's not infallible but it's a real good thing to consider and i think skynx is town


Why do you make this post now?
It's out of context.


How so out of context?

I respect rayns read, part of what makes me think that skynx could just be lazy so far. I don't think it's as alignment indicative as rayn tho. Tumbles response is kinda weird. Does tumble have other things supporting skynx town? I don't remember fully, just the part where he said that skynx wasn't an ideal off wagon. Not sure if this point alone is enough to justify a town read but depends on his previous stance to me.


What I mean is that it's random that TW comes back and makes that post.

I don't disagree with what Rayn said, but why does TW come back and that is one of the posts he makes?


He made 1 other catching up post, so not too out of context
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 16 2017 11:55 GMT
#1706
On July 16 2017 20:49 Holyflare wrote:
Non-voters (3) - Rels, Vivax, Koshi

lol mafia team

Vivax was pretty much given a free town pass by everyone so idk why he hasn't posted lol
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 16 2017 11:57 GMT
#1707
On July 16 2017 20:52 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 20:01 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 16 2017 19:47 ruXxar wrote:
On July 16 2017 19:40 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 16 2017 19:32 ruXxar wrote:
On July 16 2017 12:46 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Skynx is not mafia.
Noone will never ever come into the game as mafia making a case on someone and at the same time being completely aware they haven't even read the half of what the said dude said. Never.

wow, it's not often that a point is good enough that i actually listen to it. it's not infallible but it's a real good thing to consider and i think skynx is town


Why do you make this post now?
It's out of context.


How so out of context?

I respect rayns read, part of what makes me think that skynx could just be lazy so far. I don't think it's as alignment indicative as rayn tho. Tumbles response is kinda weird. Does tumble have other things supporting skynx town? I don't remember fully, just the part where he said that skynx wasn't an ideal off wagon. Not sure if this point alone is enough to justify a town read but depends on his previous stance to me.


What I mean is that it's random that TW comes back and makes that post.

I don't disagree with what Rayn said, but why does TW come back and that is one of the posts he makes?


He made 1 other catching up post, so not too out of context


Yes, but why specifically that one?

Examples of thought processes:

"I was filtering Rayn and came over this tidbit"
"I was looking for a reason to call skynx town".

When he doesn't share his thoughtprocess it leaves us with imperfect information.

Imperfect information leads to assumptions.

Assumptions in a game of mafia naturally leads to suspicion.

If he wants to be townread he should leave as little as possible to our imagination.


It could be something, but to me it's pretty nai
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 16 2017 12:04 GMT
#1709
Vote count is wrong btw, I should be on koshi

Felt like I was taking crazy pills for a second there
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 16 2017 15:40 GMT
#1771
Jesus rels, I have no idea what I need to do to get town read this game. Clearly you haven't read a single thing I wrote this game.

You can start to convince me by answering the question in my end of night summary.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 16 2017 15:42 GMT
#1773
On July 17 2017 00:38 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 00:30 Holyflare wrote:
Why do I claim cop here rels?

Clearly because you're scum with me and Damdred and needed to make sure that the sheep wouldn't lynch us. Thank god for that "red check" of yours or we'd totally lose this game.


This legit terrifies me
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 16 2017 15:44 GMT
#1774
On July 17 2017 00:41 Holyflare wrote:
hey geript paraphrase every post of your qt for me


This please
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 16 2017 15:45 GMT
#1775
On July 17 2017 00:24 Rels wrote:
But even then I think it is a good point. EC did seem like he was counting VA out already.


What do you mean?
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