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Blazinghand
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Actually Rayn this is your fault
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Blazinghand
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On June 22 2017 08:47 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2017 08:45 Blazinghand wrote:On June 22 2017 08:42 Rels wrote:On June 22 2017 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:On June 22 2017 08:37 Rels wrote:On June 22 2017 03:55 Blazinghand wrote:On June 22 2017 03:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ruxxar is all about unflipped association this game.
BH do you have reads? I haven't read your filter or anything just wondering other than Rels = Scum not really no, I've been a useless piece of crap On June 22 2017 03:49 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 03:44 Blazinghand wrote:On June 22 2017 03:16 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 03:14 Blazinghand wrote:
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hmm so what do you think about Rels I think rels is scum. Why not vote him then, or is grack your stronger scumread On June 22 2017 03:21 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 03:16 ruXxar wrote:
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I think rels is scum. Which is why rels is town reading grack so hard. Also why grack decided to vote for SL over Rels when they were even in votes. IS the Rels read based entirely on the grack read? is it pure unflipped association? No. I've had rels as a secondary scum read since after day 2. Just a hair behind grack. what do you think of Rels faking the dumbtells? I thought that was not your reason to scumread me ? On June 21 2017 08:08 Blazinghand wrote:On June 21 2017 07:26 Rels wrote:
your reason to scumread me is so bad too. Because I dumbtelled. I understand not taking the dumbtell into account 'cause it can be faked. But making it a basis for a scumread is nonsense LOL is this really your reasoning, like damn Yes I was asking him what he thought of that Why did you answer me "LOL it this really your reasonning" then ? It seems like what I've said at that point was wrong but it was actually true. ...I said it because I disagreed with your reasoning, and instead agreed with my own. It was like, making fun of you. I was calling your reasoning bad. You were trying to reason that MY reasoning was bad, and I was like "no, YOUR reasoning is bad". Then, I proceeded to ask someone else about my, good, reasoning. Do you not understand this thought process here? OK. Then your scumread don't make sense to me. Someone making a dumbtell is not a basis for a scumread. It happens all the time. It can also be faked, no doubt about that. But I don't get why it's a scumtell.
So what are you claiming you legitimately didn't read the like two lines of rules in that post, and decided to hang out in thread actively wondering what was in that like 2-line post, without checking? This seems to be a good chance (not 100% of course) of like Scum faking not knowing things. Does that really NOT MAKE SENSE at all to you? Or are you just being obstinant on purpose here
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On June 22 2017 08:51 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2017 08:49 Blazinghand wrote:On June 22 2017 08:47 Rels wrote:On June 22 2017 08:45 Blazinghand wrote:On June 22 2017 08:42 Rels wrote:On June 22 2017 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:On June 22 2017 08:37 Rels wrote:On June 22 2017 03:55 Blazinghand wrote:On June 22 2017 03:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ruxxar is all about unflipped association this game.
BH do you have reads? I haven't read your filter or anything just wondering other than Rels = Scum not really no, I've been a useless piece of crap On June 22 2017 03:49 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 03:44 Blazinghand wrote:
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Why not vote him then, or is grack your stronger scumread
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IS the Rels read based entirely on the grack read? is it pure unflipped association?
No. I've had rels as a secondary scum read since after day 2. Just a hair behind grack. what do you think of Rels faking the dumbtells? I thought that was not your reason to scumread me ? On June 21 2017 08:08 Blazinghand wrote:On June 21 2017 07:26 Rels wrote:
your reason to scumread me is so bad too. Because I dumbtelled. I understand not taking the dumbtell into account 'cause it can be faked. But making it a basis for a scumread is nonsense LOL is this really your reasoning, like damn Yes I was asking him what he thought of that Why did you answer me "LOL it this really your reasonning" then ? It seems like what I've said at that point was wrong but it was actually true. ...I said it because I disagreed with your reasoning, and instead agreed with my own. It was like, making fun of you. I was calling your reasoning bad. You were trying to reason that MY reasoning was bad, and I was like "no, YOUR reasoning is bad". Then, I proceeded to ask someone else about my, good, reasoning. Do you not understand this thought process here? OK. Then your scumread don't make sense to me. Someone making a dumbtell is not a basis for a scumread. It happens all the time. It can also be faked, no doubt about that. But I don't get why it's a scumtell. So what are you claiming you legitimately didn't read the like two lines of rules in that post, and decided to hang out in thread actively wondering what was in that like 2-line post, without checking? This seems to be a good chance (not 100% of course) of like Scum faking not knowing things. Does that really NOT MAKE SENSE at all to you? Or are you just being obstinant on purpose here What ? I didn't know scum KP distribution was in the rules.
It's like, right there dude. The rules post is super tiny: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/523282-tl-mafia-lxxv#4
Are you literally claiming you didn't read this, and therefore can't be scum because scum would know this?
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On June 22 2017 08:52 Rels wrote:
Why are you creating this story in your way ? Like in your POV, if I'm town I didn't it was in the rules. If I'm scum I faked that. Why are you creating this story in which I'm town that is not my story ?
what, i'm not saying you're town dude. I'm not "creating a story in which [Rels is] town"—I LITERALLY AM NOT TOWNREADING YOU
wtf is this like, dumbtell 2.0 from Rels self defense strategy
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On June 22 2017 08:55 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2017 05:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What is even the case on sicklucker? The "he did townie things"? rayn is playing this EOD so badly. Like his rest of the game basically.
btw what actually is the case on SL
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On June 22 2017 08:57 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2017 08:55 Blazinghand wrote:On June 22 2017 08:51 Rels wrote:On June 22 2017 08:49 Blazinghand wrote:On June 22 2017 08:47 Rels wrote:On June 22 2017 08:45 Blazinghand wrote:On June 22 2017 08:42 Rels wrote:On June 22 2017 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:On June 22 2017 08:37 Rels wrote:On June 22 2017 03:55 Blazinghand wrote:
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other than Rels = Scum not really no, I've been a useless piece of crap
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what do you think of Rels faking the dumbtells? I thought that was not your reason to scumread me ? On June 21 2017 08:08 Blazinghand wrote:
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LOL is this really your reasoning, like damn Yes I was asking him what he thought of that Why did you answer me "LOL it this really your reasonning" then ? It seems like what I've said at that point was wrong but it was actually true. ...I said it because I disagreed with your reasoning, and instead agreed with my own. It was like, making fun of you. I was calling your reasoning bad. You were trying to reason that MY reasoning was bad, and I was like "no, YOUR reasoning is bad". Then, I proceeded to ask someone else about my, good, reasoning. Do you not understand this thought process here? OK. Then your scumread don't make sense to me. Someone making a dumbtell is not a basis for a scumread. It happens all the time. It can also be faked, no doubt about that. But I don't get why it's a scumtell. So what are you claiming you legitimately didn't read the like two lines of rules in that post, and decided to hang out in thread actively wondering what was in that like 2-line post, without checking? This seems to be a good chance (not 100% of course) of like Scum faking not knowing things. Does that really NOT MAKE SENSE at all to you? Or are you just being obstinant on purpose here What ? I didn't know scum KP distribution was in the rules. It's like, right there dude. The rules post is super tiny: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/523282-tl-mafia-lxxv#4Are you literally claiming you didn't read this, and therefore can't be scum because scum would know this? No, I'm saying that at the time where I complained about the "2 KP / night", a few days ago, I didn't know that. I'm not trying to prove I' m town so you putting words in my mouth saying I'm trying to prove I'm town is annoying.
What kind of stupid argument is this, I'm literally arguing that you DID know and you were scum and faking, and your argument is that you're not, because.... you're not? Like, this is very tautological.
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Blazinghand
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Man this is a waste of my time
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On June 22 2017 09:01 Rels wrote:+ I'm was not "actively wondering" too. Here is the post that triggered you: Show nested quote +On June 20 2017 08:14 Rels wrote:On June 20 2017 08:11 Blazinghand wrote:On June 20 2017 08:05 Rels wrote:
)= fucking doc not doing their job If Doc didn't save DF last night, I wouldn't count on one existing at all. There's zero chance that was a vigi shot, everyone who even gave the thread a cursory glance liked DF. I can say this, as someone who gave the thread a cursory glance. can't bitch about the balance without knowing the setup. But we better have some way to overcome that 2 KP / night. Where the "actively wondering" here ?
YOU'RE LITERALLY TALKING ABOUT HOW TO OVERCOME THE 2 KP PER NIGHT
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IT RIGHT THERE
YOU ARE CLAIMING NOT TO KNWO THE SETUP
right there
it's simple
stop trying to make it complicated
stop trying to make it weird
ITS SO SIPMPLE
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Blazinghand
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On June 22 2017 09:00 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2017 08:56 Blazinghand wrote:On June 22 2017 08:52 Rels wrote:
Why are you creating this story in your way ? Like in your POV, if I'm town I didn't it was in the rules. If I'm scum I faked that. Why are you creating this story in which I'm town that is not my story ? what, i'm not saying you're town dude. I'm not "creating a story in which [Rels is] town"—I LITERALLY AM NOT TOWNREADING YOU wtf is this like, dumbtell 2.0 from Rels self defense strategy ... you LITERALLY JUST CREATED A STORY in which I was town to see if that was credible, and concluded that it was not, therefore explaining your scumread. HERE: "So what are you claiming you legitimately didn't read the like two lines of rules in that post, and decided to hang out in thread actively wondering what was in that like 2-line post, without checking?" So in that story, why are you saying "you legitimately didn't read the like two lines of rules in that post, and decided to hang out in thread actively wondering what was in that like 2-line post" ? When it doesn't make sense. You're saying it's nonsense that I talked about the 2 KP while I should have checked the rules. But why would have had check the rules since I didn't know it was in here ?
You can't just say "created a story" like somehow i pulled out of thin air that someone who is wondering about something in the OP is claiming not to be aware of that knowledge. Like wtf, "Creating a story" no YOU are the one who created a story of thinking "I hope we have some way to stop that 2 kp" which like is some weird version of trying to fake "Too little information" or something like wow
come on Rels you're not pulling this shit on me
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On June 22 2017 09:05 Rels wrote:
lol
I'm not. I'm trying to understand your scumread. And I don't.
wait do you disagree with the logic in my scumread or are you claiming you literally don't understand my logic, like you cannot actually comprehend it
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On June 22 2017 09:07 Rels wrote:
lol. Yes it's simple. You're scumreading me because you don't believe I couldn't know that info as town. Which is what I find really dumb. Cause dumbtells happen literally all the time.
Discussion closed.
Ok, so you DO understand me, you're just disagreeing loudly cause you know I caught you
Look at it this way Rels
There's like, one setup post, with like 7 lines in it. It's right there.
Now what do you think is more likely here, from an outside view?
1. A townie somehow doesn't know what's going on in the OP, and is actively planning around this lack of knowledge (hoping to have a way to stop 2 kp). Despite planning around this lack of knowledge he never looks at the OP, not when he signed up, not when the game started, not when 2 deaths came through N1, and so on. And so, somehow he goes through this existence of hoping/planning around this "knowledge" that he never even spent a second to check on.
2. A Mafia, is keenly aware of how Mafia KP works, but thinks, "ah hah, I could FAKE not knowing how mafia works, thereby PROVING that I am town"
Which is more likely? It's obviously #2. Mafia are willing to lie about everything: emotions, real life issues, being busy, being sick, reading the OP, etc. Townies, will always be curious and want to know how to play the game. And some may be oblivious, but most will not. Most of the time you see something of this caliber executed by someone at this time in the game, it is a mafia move to generate towniness
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On June 22 2017 09:11 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2017 09:07 Rels wrote:
lol. Yes it's simple. You're scumreading me because you don't believe I couldn't know that info as town. Which is what I find really dumb. Cause dumbtells happen literally all the time.
Discussion closed. This what he's saying: He's saying you are MAFIA, and KNEW the rules. You PRETENDED to be TOWN(dumb tell) by PRETENDING to not know the rules. Sheesh. Get it over with you guys.
THIS GUY UNDERSTANDS
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On June 22 2017 09:11 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2017 09:07 Rels wrote:
lol. Yes it's simple. You're scumreading me because you don't believe I couldn't know that info as town. Which is what I find really dumb. Cause dumbtells happen literally all the time.
Discussion closed. This what he's saying: He's saying you are MAFIA, and KNEW the rules. You PRETENDED to be TOWN(dumb tell) by PRETENDING to not know the rules. Sheesh. Get it over with you guys.
btw if Rels is in fact scum, pretending not to even understand how scum would do this, is also a way of pretending to be town (dumb tell) in a sense
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On June 22 2017 09:13 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2017 09:11 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 09:07 Rels wrote:
lol. Yes it's simple. You're scumreading me because you don't believe I couldn't know that info as town. Which is what I find really dumb. Cause dumbtells happen literally all the time.
Discussion closed. This what he's saying: He's saying you are MAFIA, and KNEW the rules. You PRETENDED to be TOWN(dumb tell) by PRETENDING to not know the rules. Sheesh. Get it over with you guys. yep. That's what I've said. And this is a dumb reason. Especially for BH only scumread. As I've also said, nothing else to discuss on that matter.
"nothing else to discuss" except the fact that you're scum????
On June 22 2017 09:13 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2017 09:12 Blazinghand wrote:On June 22 2017 09:11 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 09:07 Rels wrote:
lol. Yes it's simple. You're scumreading me because you don't believe I couldn't know that info as town. Which is what I find really dumb. Cause dumbtells happen literally all the time.
Discussion closed. This what he's saying: He's saying you are MAFIA, and KNEW the rules. You PRETENDED to be TOWN(dumb tell) by PRETENDING to not know the rules. Sheesh. Get it over with you guys. btw if Rels is in fact scum, pretending not to even understand how scum would do this, is also a way of pretending to be town (dumb tell) in a sense ninjaed now you have to vote rels with me
your approval fills me with shame
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Why are people shitting on ES, I think ES is fine
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hey it's not my fault Grack is dead I didn't even vote the guy
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grack may have flipped town but I stand by my vote on him as the right decision at the time with the information I had available
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On June 22 2017 09:28 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2017 09:26 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 09:23 sicklucker wrote:On June 22 2017 09:22 ruXxar wrote:
I felt like grack was 100% sure to flip scum.
My whole world made perfect sense.
The fact that he didn't gobsmacked me in the face.
I need to rethink all my theories. your world is not in complete shambles it just means there was one more lynchbait then we thought. its still logical to think the majority of mafia were on the annul wagon He was wasn't he? It's not just me being insane? grack was never 100% like I said about 80. sucks but rels was like 90% shoulda went with that. Anyway are we in lylo or 1 away? if were close to that I expect the claims to be coming so who knows what will happen tomorrow. 0 power roles have came out yet shit is going down
Living Players:
3)Palmar
4)Rels
5)disformation
7)Tumblewood
9)VayneAuthority
10)beentheredonethat
11)raynpelikoneet
13)AMG Replaced by Blazinghand
14)marvellosity Replaced by Chezitwo
17)Fecalfeast
19)Skynx
20)sicklucker
21)ruXxar
22)Eversince
That's 14 players. If Mafia shoot 1 tonight, we are at 13 tomorrow.
If there are 4 mafia left alive and no doctors or vigis or veterans, and no weird 3p action, that puts us at 9-4. If we ML, the day after is 7-4. Then if we ML again, the day after is 5-4.
This means we get two MLs before LYLO under my assumptions
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On June 22 2017 09:36 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2017 09:35 Rels wrote:On June 22 2017 09:31 Rels wrote:On June 22 2017 09:30 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 09:26 Rels wrote:borderline read incoming. On June 22 2017 08:00 ruXxar wrote:On June 22 2017 08:00 Fecalfeast wrote: Please don't shoot me. After the "silence" and before the flip. Why does ruxxar post that as scum ? As town the explanation is obvious: he's 100% sure Grack flips town and he's making a joke on FF. Is it likely he fakes this as scum ? Risking a modkill ? Not sure. Makes me think he's the baddie. Now I don't know if I wanna really use this read. Cause if it's true it's borderline. And if it's wrong it's very unfair from ruxxar to have made that post. This was just a joke on FF's "im going to shoot ruxxar if grack flips town". oh. Then it doesn't mean fuck Then it is a very weird thought to have for you actually. Like, you're 100% sure Grack flips scum. Why are you making a joke that only makes sense if Grack flips town ? Call it last second doubts. I knew I would look like a total ass if he flipped town.
Welcome to the club
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consider: perhaps some people who voted for annul are not scum
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