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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22133 Posts
June 16 2017 10:33 GMT
#1813
On June 16 2017 19:32 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 19:22 Vivax wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:18 darthfoley wrote:
Palmar may be 3p. Maybe even Koshi trying to be pro-Town 3p. Idk and I'm not sure it matters atm

Think lots of scum lies between ES, Grack, TW, sl, Rels, HF or Vixax. Still waiting for rayn to scumhunt which is concerning. I need to reread btdt and disformation. Hopefully tonight's actions resolve some issues. Unfortunately I'll probably be dead lol


Bolded all the townies you're calling scum.

So why has eversince become scum to you now just for EoD stuff? I don't think the posts were that much worse than what she already had posted before so the progression doesn't really make sense.

And lul @ you dying tonight


Read my case, she's well scummy.

Basically:

She hadn't put a vote down all cycle and miraculously appears at deadline to vote and afk again.

She has spent 0 of the game calling anyone mafia.

Her only read which she doesn't even explicitly state is koshi is town/3p and by virtue of that post me as mafia trying to shit fight rayn/koshi.

She comes back and sees my case on SL (me, her mafia read) and instead of saying no because she thinks I'm mafia she says no because there's not enough time to kill SL.

Then, since she is implying she agrees with the SL case but won't vote him she votes for the exact wagon SL started!!! She had a choice between sheeping her town read koshi on his wagon or following a wagon with her new found appreciation for SL being mafia. She sheeps that one instead.

Then she leaves again.


Why are you trying to convince me that ES is mafia when I was trying to push her from the start?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22133 Posts
June 16 2017 10:34 GMT
#1817
On June 16 2017 19:32 darthfoley wrote:
Also it's misleading to say I didn't think ES was scummy earlier. I literally said that


You tried pretty hard to keep her under the rug considering I had to ask you for the read and then you just went "lol didn't read" when I asked you more about the read on her.

I rate your intention to push 0/10
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22133 Posts
June 16 2017 10:35 GMT
#1819
On June 16 2017 19:35 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 19:33 Vivax wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:32 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:22 Vivax wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:18 darthfoley wrote:
Palmar may be 3p. Maybe even Koshi trying to be pro-Town 3p. Idk and I'm not sure it matters atm

Think lots of scum lies between ES, Grack, TW, sl, Rels, HF or Vixax. Still waiting for rayn to scumhunt which is concerning. I need to reread btdt and disformation. Hopefully tonight's actions resolve some issues. Unfortunately I'll probably be dead lol


Bolded all the townies you're calling scum.

So why has eversince become scum to you now just for EoD stuff? I don't think the posts were that much worse than what she already had posted before so the progression doesn't really make sense.

And lul @ you dying tonight


Read my case, she's well scummy.

Basically:

She hadn't put a vote down all cycle and miraculously appears at deadline to vote and afk again.

She has spent 0 of the game calling anyone mafia.

Her only read which she doesn't even explicitly state is koshi is town/3p and by virtue of that post me as mafia trying to shit fight rayn/koshi.

She comes back and sees my case on SL (me, her mafia read) and instead of saying no because she thinks I'm mafia she says no because there's not enough time to kill SL.

Then, since she is implying she agrees with the SL case but won't vote him she votes for the exact wagon SL started!!! She had a choice between sheeping her town read koshi on his wagon or following a wagon with her new found appreciation for SL being mafia. She sheeps that one instead.

Then she leaves again.


Why are you trying to convince me that ES is mafia when I was trying to push her from the start?


Because you said something false, that her eod wasn't that bad.


I said it wasn't worse than what she had already posted, which was already bad.

Not worse than bad = still bad.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22133 Posts
June 16 2017 10:50 GMT
#1831
On June 16 2017 19:42 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 19:33 Vivax wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:32 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:22 Vivax wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:18 darthfoley wrote:
Palmar may be 3p. Maybe even Koshi trying to be pro-Town 3p. Idk and I'm not sure it matters atm

Think lots of scum lies between ES, Grack, TW, sl, Rels, HF or Vixax. Still waiting for rayn to scumhunt which is concerning. I need to reread btdt and disformation. Hopefully tonight's actions resolve some issues. Unfortunately I'll probably be dead lol


Bolded all the townies you're calling scum.

So why has eversince become scum to you now just for EoD stuff? I don't think the posts were that much worse than what she already had posted before so the progression doesn't really make sense.

And lul @ you dying tonight


Read my case, she's well scummy.

Basically:

She hadn't put a vote down all cycle and miraculously appears at deadline to vote and afk again.

She has spent 0 of the game calling anyone mafia.

Her only read which she doesn't even explicitly state is koshi is town/3p and by virtue of that post me as mafia trying to shit fight rayn/koshi.

She comes back and sees my case on SL (me, her mafia read) and instead of saying no because she thinks I'm mafia she says no because there's not enough time to kill SL.

Then, since she is implying she agrees with the SL case but won't vote him she votes for the exact wagon SL started!!! She had a choice between sheeping her town read koshi on his wagon or following a wagon with her new found appreciation for SL being mafia. She sheeps that one instead.

Then she leaves again.


Why are you trying to convince me that ES is mafia when I was trying to push her from the start?


Why did you vote off wagon when your vote really mattered?


Call me mafia for it please.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22133 Posts
June 16 2017 10:51 GMT
#1833
Please DF I beg you just call me mafia for voting off wagon, do it.

At least that will make it seem like a relevant question at all.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22133 Posts
June 16 2017 10:55 GMT
#1837
On June 16 2017 19:40 beentheredonethat wrote:
hf you asked me to compare tw to generic tw which I did. what do you draw from this now?


I'm not HF but I feel I still have a say in the matter.

I don't know how the two games compare cause TW placed votes on acceptable targets that were also agreed on by town (in that case, damdred) whereas here he is stubbornly just placing it on people that are never going to be lynched D1.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22133 Posts
June 16 2017 10:55 GMT
#1838
On June 16 2017 19:53 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 19:51 Vivax wrote:
Please DF I beg you just call me mafia for voting off wagon, do it.

At least that will make it seem like a relevant question at all.


I think I made it clear with my previous post that I found your EoD scummy which is by definition you

Also @HF I mistyped. I need to look at FF's vote. If what you say is true, your eod isn't a problem


So if that's cause of the previous arguments, why is it relevant at all for someones alignment if they vote off wagon?
Why does that make me mafia over other people who voted off wagon?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22133 Posts
June 16 2017 11:03 GMT
#1842
On June 16 2017 19:57 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 19:55 Vivax wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:53 darthfoley wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:51 Vivax wrote:
Please DF I beg you just call me mafia for voting off wagon, do it.

At least that will make it seem like a relevant question at all.


I think I made it clear with my previous post that I found your EoD scummy which is by definition you

Also @HF I mistyped. I need to look at FF's vote. If what you say is true, your eod isn't a problem


So if that's cause of the previous arguments, why is it relevant at all for someones alignment if they vote off wagon?
Why does that make me mafia over other people who voted off wagon?


Because ES who you've been hollering about was in one wagon and you chose not to vote on the other wagon. It's not always relevant to vote off wagon, but yesterday I think it was


I don't see why I should base my votes on association within 3 minutes from deadline.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22133 Posts
June 16 2017 11:05 GMT
#1844
Darthfoley is calling me mafia for not switching to Xatalos after this happened:

On June 16 2017 07:57 Eversince wrote:
## vote: Annul


Which btw already put annul at majority first so even if I switched I wouldn't have gotten him lynched.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22133 Posts
June 16 2017 11:07 GMT
#1846
I'm gonna bookmark this page as the page where darthfoley pushes scum on me for absolutely insane reasons.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22133 Posts
June 16 2017 11:10 GMT
#1849
My dream is that me, Palmar, rayn and HF get to play together in this game at some point when Palmar and rayn stop their peace in peace out style.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22133 Posts
June 16 2017 11:15 GMT
#1852
On June 16 2017 20:11 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 20:05 Vivax wrote:
Darthfoley is calling me mafia for not switching to Xatalos after this happened:

On June 16 2017 07:57 Eversince wrote:
## vote: Annul


Which btw already put annul at majority first so even if I switched I wouldn't have gotten him lynched.


The feeling is mutual. So why didn't you pick a wagon?


You are mafia.

Darthfoley:

"Vivax is mafia for not voting Xatalos by association after Eversince voted annul 3 minutes -Eod and made him already the only lynchable guy"
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22133 Posts
June 16 2017 11:16 GMT
#1854
On June 16 2017 20:13 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 20:03 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:57 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:54 Koshi wrote:
annoy btdt. The guy is 100% mafia.

what the fuck is wrong with you

cry cry whine whine

piss off dumbfuck


You should stop getting triggered by possible 3p/mafia and maybe play the game instead.
There are arguments out there that disagree with your TW read and I'd appreciate it if you acknowledged why he is likely town.

Or at least keep showing why he is not in the face of adversity.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22133 Posts
June 16 2017 11:21 GMT
#1856
On June 16 2017 20:17 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 20:15 Vivax wrote:
On June 16 2017 20:11 darthfoley wrote:
On June 16 2017 20:05 Vivax wrote:
Darthfoley is calling me mafia for not switching to Xatalos after this happened:

On June 16 2017 07:57 Eversince wrote:
## vote: Annul


Which btw already put annul at majority first so even if I switched I wouldn't have gotten him lynched.


The feeling is mutual. So why didn't you pick a wagon?


You are mafia.

Darthfoley:

"Vivax is mafia for not voting Xatalos by association after Eversince voted annul 3 minutes -Eod and made him already the only lynchable guy"


So why didn't you pick a wagon? Idk why you're getting so shook based off of one simple question


Didn't feel it mattered and didn't want to cause those weren't the wagons I wanted.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22133 Posts
June 16 2017 11:25 GMT
#1858
On June 16 2017 20:22 beentheredonethat wrote:
I don't have a solid TW read. He got like what, 10 posts in total? All I can say and have said is

1. his current play is super different from Generic II where he was scum
2. his current play can very well be scum nevertheless

Like right now, I don't have solid reasons to scum or townread him. There's just nothing to work with. Worth a D2 wagon if that gets him to participate.


And Eversince, and ruxxar, and DF?

Do you think this game is all about figuring out TW and TW only?

And why isn't darthfoley blaming you for wasting your vote after you

On June 16 2017 15:09 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 15:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why it is a good thing Xatalos was 2nd wagon? Alot depends on his alignment votewise. But if you think he is scum isnt it a BAD thing he was a second wagon and not 1st????

I cancelled some plans today so i can focus better on catching up after work. I insta-fell asleep yesterday when i got home.


This is why the first bad thing was that annul was lynched over Xata.
I think Koshi worked his way up slowly but he didn't make it out of scum range.
Nevertheless he wasn't second wagon.
Xata was a good second wagon. Because Xata is also among my scumreads. I brought up some points early and I think darthfoley cased him, too, and I agreed with him.

So yes, Xata is a good second wagon.


posted this?

What's your read on darthfoley?
What's your read on ruxxar?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22133 Posts
June 16 2017 11:29 GMT
#1861
Nevermind that btdt I thought that the Xata read was before the lynch .

You actually had no opinion on Xata for the entirety of D1, or I'm not seeing it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22133 Posts
June 16 2017 11:32 GMT
#1863
On June 16 2017 20:26 Palmar wrote:
I'm just playing single player mafia mostly. Occasionally clicking filters, ignoring the thread, throwing out some opinions.

Life is good.

I'll try to maybe make my statement posts a bit more detailed when I cba.


I understand you, I really do.
I'd love to have the willpower that you have to not compulsively try to win the game among a horde of players who don't care.
I might do just that and write this off as another awful game at some point cause it's headed in that direction.
On top of it marv didn't play. What a disappointment.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22133 Posts
June 16 2017 11:36 GMT
#1868
If I just force myself to read DF town I can see a btdt/Xata/SL/ES/Ruxxar team.

But that would be pretty sad cause it means that yet again, the majority of town doesn't even try harder than mafia.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22133 Posts
June 16 2017 11:41 GMT
#1871
Koshi is probably town though.
I just really can't deal with the hipster reads he's producing by townreading Ruxxar and ES. I think he's horribly wrong on these two and his explanations don't sway me and are probably entirely based on association and he doesn't want to admit it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22133 Posts
June 16 2017 11:46 GMT
#1880
On June 16 2017 20:43 beentheredonethat wrote:
I love it

Koshi: "BTDT IS SCUM IS SCUM IS SCUM IS SCUM"
Dumb Vivax: "Oh Btdt is scum"

there you go I'm outta here bye


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