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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22213 Posts
May 31 2017 21:16 GMT
#30
obligatory

/in
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22213 Posts
June 02 2017 19:27 GMT
#44
Imperial mafia had 20 players and over 500 pages. 350 pages for 6 times as many players is really weak tbh
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22213 Posts
June 09 2017 06:20 GMT
#95
There are many funny role ideas for big games.
When times are dire and TL doesn't get sign ups, I resort to town of salem to quench the thirst. It has massive flaws since it doesn't have the concept of a VT from the start meaning that mafia and NK always have to cc someone (ideally), and you need to play against a limited time so it mostly comes down to claim wars. Also town roles are hilariously overpowered. The jailkeeper can execute people at night and interrogate you.

These are screenshots from one game where I was werewolf and killed the entire town on N2, but also myself cause my target got transported into the veteran along with the rest of the town.

D3 the only survivors were : The 3 mafia, the survivor, and the veteran who they lynched, winning the game.

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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22213 Posts
June 14 2017 07:07 GMT
#184
On June 14 2017 10:41 annul wrote:
wow my first game in 5 years and i roll green, sucks


Is this bait or serious?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22213 Posts
June 14 2017 09:36 GMT
#239
On June 14 2017 16:32 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 15:57 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:38 disformation wrote:
good morning everyone!

omw to work yada yada etc.

agreeing with ruxxar that green colour is best colour.
dont understand why xata is voting rayn.
hf had first post so hes basically conf. town.
might sheep onto hoshi later.
df's "wooohooo" post sounded a bit fake, i conclude he still had a bad mood.

hrre is hoping for a slow day at work.


Strong first post. I like

You like this post? Can you elaborate why or you just felt like posting?

Cuz he agrees that green is good, good shit there.
First post conf town, goos shit there.
Xata and HF both voted in same pattern but he sheeps one but doesn't understand the other??
Comment on DF is fine but he can easily back down from anything that soft so it doesn't really matter.

Very good post here.


This is probably the best post ITT so far in terms of value,skynx top town.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22213 Posts
June 14 2017 12:47 GMT
#349
Isn't the original reason for untownreading Koshi that his literal first post claims "not mafia"?

Does Koshi always lie, or always tell the truth ? If lie, don't read anything into it. If truth, Koshi claimed 3p ITT. HF/disfo liked to think that.

Rayn says that that one post doesn't make Koshi mafia and says disfo doesn't reevaluate when Koshi posts more (his problem with the Koshi read)

HF concludes that rayn knows Koshi is 3P and therefore mafia???

Overall I don't find this very sheepable.

I think annul is also town.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22213 Posts
June 14 2017 12:56 GMT
#357
On June 14 2017 21:48 Holyflare wrote:
No, Rayn admits he doesn't think Koshi is town yet so he unnecessarily defends Koshi in his post for absolutely no reason.


That's a misconstruction HF. Saying that someone is disagreeing doesn't mean it's a defense, it's an opinion. By extension I would be defending Koshi as well just for disagreeing with you and disfo?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22213 Posts
June 14 2017 13:00 GMT
#359
On June 14 2017 21:57 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 17:26 Skynx wrote:
On June 14 2017 16:45 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2017 16:42 Xatalos wrote:
On June 14 2017 16:32 Skynx wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:57 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:38 disformation wrote:
good morning everyone!

omw to work yada yada etc.

agreeing with ruxxar that green colour is best colour.
dont understand why xata is voting rayn.
hf had first post so hes basically conf. town.
might sheep onto hoshi later.
df's "wooohooo" post sounded a bit fake, i conclude he still had a bad mood.

hrre is hoping for a slow day at work.


Strong first post. I like

You like this post? Can you elaborate why or you just felt like posting?

Cuz he agrees that green is good, good shit there.
First post conf town, goos shit there.
Xata and HF both voted in same pattern but he sheeps one but doesn't understand the other??
Comment on DF is fine but he can easily back down from anything that soft so it doesn't really matter.

Very good post here.


Haha.. Indeed it's quite nothing in the guise of something.

Still nothing wrong with it. I like the post as well. Why would that post be more mafia aligned?

My problem was more with ruxxar's appreciation rather than disfo's post.
I find it a bit of a mafia trend that they feel the need to do this kind of stuff to blend in. This "I liked this post" just felt fake to me.


I was gonna say this. People grilling Skynx seem to be missing the point of his post. It was calling out ruXXar soft buddying disformation rather than disformation's post itself.

Town points to Skynx.

As of page 11, I think Xatalos/ruXXar are most likely to be scum


I also want to point out that Ruxxar simply ignored it when skynx called him out for liking that post.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22213 Posts
June 14 2017 13:38 GMT
#391
On June 14 2017 19:49 Koshi wrote:
I wasn't clear:

The problem is they aren't pushing me for being mafia, and you defend me with the line "I don't think Koshi is mafia"

Iz weirdz?


While I don't think Koshi is mafia/(3p) for his first post alone. His overall posting doesn't hit me as townie so far. The timing of his btdt scumread seemed out of place and the post didn't seem natural, the above has no followup and I don't have the impression that he cared about rayn doing that.

He's getting my vote for the time being as I await the Koshi townie spark that may well never come.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22213 Posts
June 14 2017 13:52 GMT
#410
On June 14 2017 22:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 18:56 Skynx wrote:
On June 14 2017 18:44 disformation wrote:
On June 14 2017 18:29 Palmar wrote:
On June 14 2017 18:27 Xatalos wrote:
On June 14 2017 18:09 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2017 17:49 Koshi wrote:
Bwaaaaaaaaa. Almost always I make a "first confirmed town post + I add my gameplan"


Yeh so now you didn't make one and no game plan.

3P doesn't have a game plan because they dunno who to side with yet. Aka you are 3p. Aka lynch koshbagmcgoo.


Best case 2017 :D

I believe in this case.

y u no vote koshi then? or try to convince ppl to vote koshi?

This is a fair point. Palmar along with FF why is koshi scum and if so why no srs vote?
I guess Xata aswell, why is rayn scum bro and why you didn't put your vote in voting thread?

I like this

but the rest of Skynx filter doesn't let me drawn conclusions. 4 posts in 4 hours, 1 hour 1 post.


I think it was very townie that he pinged Ruxxar cause he couldn't understand how he +1d disfos post, then explained how he perceived it instead.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22213 Posts
June 14 2017 14:06 GMT
#426
I'm pretty happy with df, btdt, skynx, annul as townreads for the time being.

Damdred kind of going for the hands off approach leaves him at null, I think his latest post would be easy to make as either alignment.

@ Ruxxar

On June 14 2017 22:32 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 16:32 Skynx wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:57 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:38 disformation wrote:
good morning everyone!

omw to work yada yada etc.

agreeing with ruxxar that green colour is best colour.
dont understand why xata is voting rayn.
hf had first post so hes basically conf. town.
might sheep onto hoshi later.
df's "wooohooo" post sounded a bit fake, i conclude he still had a bad mood.

hrre is hoping for a slow day at work.


Strong first post. I like

You like this post? Can you elaborate why or you just felt like posting?

Cuz he agrees that green is good, good shit there.
First post conf town, goos shit there.
Xata and HF both voted in same pattern but he sheeps one but doesn't understand the other??
Comment on DF is fine but he can easily back down from anything that soft so it doesn't really matter.

Very good post here.


It's not the content as much as the tone and structure.
Lighthearted tone with not too much polish/concern.

I'd give that a slight town read.


Do you think that disfo is the only one who fell into that category by that point? I think there's a lot of people you could have applied that to.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22213 Posts
June 14 2017 14:12 GMT
#430
On June 14 2017 23:10 Koshi wrote:
Does anybody know why sicklucker took Eversince as copcheck example? ( and I know it is fake)


They are twin brothers
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22213 Posts
June 14 2017 14:20 GMT
#436
I think that Xatalos is being lazy and trying to have fun at worst, but not scummy btw.

If the meta holds true he will have one of the largest filters and it will more or less look like that. As mafia he posts in a more constructed way.

I'd give him a slight townread for light heartedness even.

Ruxxar on the other hand, don't like how he explained his disfo + 1 away. There's plenty of people he could have townread with that reasoning. So I'd like to know where he'd end up if he tried applying that same heuristic to anyone.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22213 Posts
June 14 2017 14:23 GMT
#439
On June 14 2017 22:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 22:36 darthfoley wrote:
On June 14 2017 21:28 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 21:14 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:55 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:50 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:50 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 17:53 disformation wrote:
@koshi: if you are SK 1v1 me at night!


soft veteran claim?

blue hunting?


is it really hunting if someone uses a line like that

Why ignore the hf vs. rayn because koshi thing though?

hey annul


who says i am ignoring it? commenting on A does not equal ignoring B.


not commenting on B, when B is the most common thing in the thread, is essentially ignoring B.

In order to not achieve levels of irony, I think HF is more likely to be town than rayn atm. Rayn doesn't seem nearly as aggressive or standoff-ish right now. He's basically just defending himself and not really pushing back at HF. Like there's a difference between answering every question you're asked and just saying "fuck you, i'm not answering any more of your shit." I don't sense the passion + Show Spoiler +
or rage
that I usually associate with typical town rayn.

I've liked a few of the inconsistencies HF has pointed out in rayn's play.

Like in a HF vs. Rayn world I'd always lynch HF over rayn simply because of scum capabilities
but right now HF is doing everything and having good points and rayn is not here

So far I like HF's "lets wagon koshi and rayn" thing. Koshi's defense feels lackluster, like he's not interested at all. which matches his initial approach (where he said "*pats HF on the back of his head*").

And rayn didn't react at all.
Both are capable of leading town.
Both don't.


Damdred do you really think this is fearmongering?

And what would he be fear mongering for when he's siding HF?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22213 Posts
June 14 2017 14:25 GMT
#444
On June 14 2017 23:20 Koshi wrote:
Well. If everybody enters like Damdred this is going to be interesting. Alas we will not be that lucky.


???

What do you mean we will not be that lucky.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22213 Posts
June 14 2017 14:28 GMT
#451
On June 14 2017 23:24 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 23:20 Vivax wrote:
I think that Xatalos is being lazy and trying to have fun at worst, but not scummy btw.

If the meta holds true he will have one of the largest filters and it will more or less look like that. As mafia he posts in a more constructed way.

I'd give him a slight townread for light heartedness even.

Ruxxar on the other hand, don't like how he explained his disfo + 1 away. There's plenty of people he could have townread with that reasoning. So I'd like to know where he'd end up if he tried applying that same heuristic to anyone.


While the meta bit is true the first part is part of his scummers not town. He randomly tags along on a ride gets what he wants that doesn't cause shade and leaves.

I do agree with your ruxxar post though. Like just sort of base level reads that look good on filter but horrid in context. In this case might not even look good as filter stuffer.

Why do you think annul is town though?


On June 14 2017 21:35 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 21:30 disformation wrote:
On June 14 2017 21:28 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 21:14 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:55 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:50 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:50 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 17:53 disformation wrote:
@koshi: if you are SK 1v1 me at night!


soft veteran claim?

blue hunting?


is it really hunting if someone uses a line like that

Why ignore the hf vs. rayn because koshi thing though?

hey annul


who says i am ignoring it? commenting on A does not equal ignoring B.

well you currently have 0 posts on B?
maybe post something about B?
=D


i think the fact that:

A. i am here during this argument and therefore have read all of it; and
B. i do not have a vote down on anyone yet

is indicative of what i think so far

HF has no reason to FOS anyone this early and assigning alignment to him based on that is just WIFOM


This post.

Sassy and admits to having no scumread when he feels like he has no scumreads.
When there are really enough things going on in the thread for any mafia to just come in and pick a townie to scumread with similar arguments as another townie.

Or whatever mafia wants to do.
But not really be zen and neutral and do things in his own time and reasoning like annul is.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22213 Posts
June 14 2017 14:32 GMT
#454
On June 14 2017 23:25 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 23:06 Vivax wrote:
I'm pretty happy with df, btdt, skynx, annul as townreads for the time being.

Damdred kind of going for the hands off approach leaves him at null, I think his latest post would be easy to make as either alignment.

@ Ruxxar

On June 14 2017 22:32 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 16:32 Skynx wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:57 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:38 disformation wrote:
good morning everyone!

omw to work yada yada etc.

agreeing with ruxxar that green colour is best colour.
dont understand why xata is voting rayn.
hf had first post so hes basically conf. town.
might sheep onto hoshi later.
df's "wooohooo" post sounded a bit fake, i conclude he still had a bad mood.

hrre is hoping for a slow day at work.


Strong first post. I like

You like this post? Can you elaborate why or you just felt like posting?

Cuz he agrees that green is good, good shit there.
First post conf town, goos shit there.
Xata and HF both voted in same pattern but he sheeps one but doesn't understand the other??
Comment on DF is fine but he can easily back down from anything that soft so it doesn't really matter.

Very good post here.


It's not the content as much as the tone and structure.
Lighthearted tone with not too much polish/concern.

I'd give that a slight town read.


Do you think that disfo is the only one who fell into that category by that point? I think there's a lot of people you could have applied that to.


Not the only one, but his post had more content so it was easier to analyze.

He either tried really hard to appear town, or he's town.


On June 14 2017 22:32 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 16:32 Skynx wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:57 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:38 disformation wrote:
good morning everyone!

omw to work yada yada etc.

agreeing with ruxxar that green colour is best colour.
dont understand why xata is voting rayn.
hf had first post so hes basically conf. town.
might sheep onto hoshi later.
df's "wooohooo" post sounded a bit fake, i conclude he still had a bad mood.

hrre is hoping for a slow day at work.


Strong first post. I like

You like this post? Can you elaborate why or you just felt like posting?

Cuz he agrees that green is good, good shit there.
First post conf town, goos shit there.
Xata and HF both voted in same pattern but he sheeps one but doesn't understand the other??
Comment on DF is fine but he can easily back down from anything that soft so it doesn't really matter.

Very good post here.


It's not the content as much as the tone and structure.
Lighthearted tone with not too much polish/concern.

I'd give that a slight town read.


Someone tell me this is just a minor inconsistency?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22213 Posts
June 14 2017 14:32 GMT
#455
Or maybe is it just Ruxxar having no actual reason whatsoever to +1 disfos post?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22213 Posts
June 14 2017 14:55 GMT
#482
On June 14 2017 23:38 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 23:32 Vivax wrote:
On June 14 2017 23:25 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 23:06 Vivax wrote:
I'm pretty happy with df, btdt, skynx, annul as townreads for the time being.

Damdred kind of going for the hands off approach leaves him at null, I think his latest post would be easy to make as either alignment.

@ Ruxxar

On June 14 2017 22:32 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 16:32 Skynx wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:57 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:38 disformation wrote:
good morning everyone!

omw to work yada yada etc.

agreeing with ruxxar that green colour is best colour.
dont understand why xata is voting rayn.
hf had first post so hes basically conf. town.
might sheep onto hoshi later.
df's "wooohooo" post sounded a bit fake, i conclude he still had a bad mood.

hrre is hoping for a slow day at work.


Strong first post. I like

You like this post? Can you elaborate why or you just felt like posting?

Cuz he agrees that green is good, good shit there.
First post conf town, goos shit there.
Xata and HF both voted in same pattern but he sheeps one but doesn't understand the other??
Comment on DF is fine but he can easily back down from anything that soft so it doesn't really matter.

Very good post here.


It's not the content as much as the tone and structure.
Lighthearted tone with not too much polish/concern.

I'd give that a slight town read.


Do you think that disfo is the only one who fell into that category by that point? I think there's a lot of people you could have applied that to.


Not the only one, but his post had more content so it was easier to analyze.

He either tried really hard to appear town, or he's town.


On June 14 2017 22:32 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 16:32 Skynx wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:57 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:38 disformation wrote:
good morning everyone!

omw to work yada yada etc.

agreeing with ruxxar that green colour is best colour.
dont understand why xata is voting rayn.
hf had first post so hes basically conf. town.
might sheep onto hoshi later.
df's "wooohooo" post sounded a bit fake, i conclude he still had a bad mood.

hrre is hoping for a slow day at work.


Strong first post. I like

You like this post? Can you elaborate why or you just felt like posting?

Cuz he agrees that green is good, good shit there.
First post conf town, goos shit there.
Xata and HF both voted in same pattern but he sheeps one but doesn't understand the other??
Comment on DF is fine but he can easily back down from anything that soft so it doesn't really matter.

Very good post here.


It's not the content as much as the tone and structure.
Lighthearted tone with not too much polish/concern.

I'd give that a slight town read.


Someone tell me this is just a minor inconsistency?


I think both can be true? But it is a little inconsistant


Well he went like

"No Skynx it wasn't the content but the tone"
to
"No Vivax it wasn't the tone but the amount of content"
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22213 Posts
June 14 2017 14:56 GMT
#484
Or rather it was enough content to form a toneread.
I'm probably reading too much into it but I think it's a thin rail to walk on between "he's making the reasons up on the spot and just keeps piling them on when you ask for details" and "he actually thinks that but can't condense it all into one post".
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