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On June 24 2017 00:06 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2017 00:04 Eversince wrote:
Ok I can't make sense of SL's crumbs/reads.
FF/Chez town is general consensus. That's fine and all, I already read both of them town anyway.
Problem that I'm having here is SL's read on TW was 100% confirmed town.
But SL didn't check FF/Chez. SL visited TW N1, Chez N2.
SL also was very sure Marv's slot is mafia. Never gave this any other chance. Which is why if he got a return of different TW is the town and Chez is the scum. I don't know why he implied FF got included in that at all. Not sure why he would lie about his checks as town. And if TW/Chez came back as same I have a hard time putting TW as town.
I visited Rels N3. He was a total shut in.
Before it gets mentioned, I obviously have no reason to claim right now as mafia. But town needs the info because everyone seems to be having just about as much trouble as I am. I'm obviously not much use right now other than being lynch bait on everyone's mind. So let's kill two birds with one stone.
so you are claiming tracker?
Yes.
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On June 24 2017 00:07 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2017 00:04 Eversince wrote:
Ok I can't make sense of SL's crumbs/reads.
FF/Chez town is general consensus. That's fine and all, I already read both of them town anyway.
Problem that I'm having here is SL's read on TW was 100% confirmed town.
But SL didn't check FF/Chez. SL visited TW N1, Chez N2.
SL also was very sure Marv's slot is mafia. Never gave this any other chance. Which is why if he got a return of different TW is the town and Chez is the scum. I don't know why he implied FF got included in that at all. Not sure why he would lie about his checks as town. And if TW/Chez came back as same I have a hard time putting TW as town.
I visited Rels N3. He was a total shut in.
Before it gets mentioned, I obviously have no reason to claim right now as mafia. But town needs the info because everyone seems to be having just about as much trouble as I am. I'm obviously not much use right now other than being lynch bait on everyone's mind. So let's kill two birds with one stone.
I'm pretty sure tracker cannot check same guy on consecutive nights otherwise it would be pretty op.
You can be pretty sure if you want. Rels would of been my N2 if mods didn't let me track SL a second night. But that's mod business so pm them if you have questions about rules of roles.
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@Chez, because I had been building my weird world where SL, TW, Grack, Xata scum world most of N1. And when it came back TW, this only stoked my tingly feelings that they were connected even more. So I followed him again N2.
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On June 24 2017 00:11 Chezitwo wrote:
When did SL state his tumble read then? Because if he was 100 % sure TW is town because he thought I am mafia then Tumblewood is mafia.
That's the conclusion I reached. SL was so confident that marv rage quit this game if ge got a different result you would of auto'd into scum and TW gets free confirmed town in SL's world.
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On June 24 2017 00:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2017 00:11 Chezitwo wrote:
When did SL state his tumble read then? Because if he was 100 % sure TW is town because he thought I am mafia then Tumblewood is mafia. Wait you and Tumble are same if eversince is town? Am i getting this right?
I don't know if SL was trolling or trying to sugarcoat his cookie crumbs. SL called FF/Chez both redchecks.
SL didn't check FF though. He checked TW/Chez. I'm working on the assumption of, how can you confidently townread TW at the point SL does? Let alone call him 100% confirmed town in the way SL does? It only makes sense if his result came back different. Because Chez is auto mafia in SL's mind from D1.
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On June 24 2017 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2017 00:18 Chezitwo wrote:On June 24 2017 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 24 2017 00:15 Chezitwo wrote:On June 24 2017 00:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 24 2017 00:11 Chezitwo wrote:
When did SL state his tumble read then? Because if he was 100 % sure TW is town because he thought I am mafia then Tumblewood is mafia. Wait you and Tumble are same if eversince is town? Am i getting this right? I understood it like SL thought Tumble is town and I am mafia. Which would indicate a different check. That doesnt make any sense. If he thinks you are toen strongly why doesnt he push tumble d3? SL thought I am mafia all game. Because of marvs absence. And he called tw town?
He put TW as 100% town lock.
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On June 24 2017 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Yes he calls one of his checks town and one scum. Assuming ES is town one of them is mafia or miller and i dont think chez is scum, and one miller has flipped. This is not lylo right?
Well that should be relatively easy. I can keep being the nosy neighbor girl til scum kills me. They will have to kill me.
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On June 24 2017 00:35 disformation wrote:also good thing: i feel scum will run out of scum reads soonish. 
This is a big part of why I decided to claim today instead of trying to wait.
I'm constantly brought up as potential lynch bait and felt that the info involving SL's claim was more important to town than me getting a safer check N4.
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Sorry guys, was out of town this weekend! Still catching up but yeah two down!
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Makes it pretty clear mafia did shoot. Just took two to kill their target. I was RB'd so guessing that we have a jailkeeper and not a doc.
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You're super super mafia Disfo. 100%.
I'm kidding, still forever townreading you.
Update also; mods just forgot me, i didn't receive a check result back for like 20 mins and assumed I was RB'd. I got msged 50 mins after Day start. He didn't follow anyone. So nothing useful to report.
I don't like Palmar immediately disappearing D4 after my claim. Pressure removed and he's gone again. His stuff on BTDT isn't great. He's not getting attention today and he's handily given rehashed of things that got discussed for over a week. What new point to the discussion did he actually generate?
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I'm going to vote Palmar for now. I think he has a better chance at flipping mafia than Rels right now.
I do need to read Rels filter again but Palmar seems to not play when there is no pressure on him.
Also it makes no sense if he finally read the thread, he should question my result on Rels instead of spouting info on if the mods would msg me for no result vs RB. Which makes me think he's probably lying and just posting for the sake of posting. (Why would I claim to have been RB'd vs no result when I had already posted a no result before? Implying that this day opening was different.)
So like Disfo said "Make me think BTDT is mafia" Go!
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On June 27 2017 23:44 disformation wrote:
generally palmar is super disconnected from the thread. did a minimal amount of work up until today.
and even today his stuff looks more like he is doing only half-assed work in the hopes of finding something to help him out of this mess.
e.g. if he was sure that btdt is scum, why did he stop after his push on btdt based on d1 stuff?
then there also was this super creepy buddy attempt onto me.
i also know he can be fairly lazy as scum. not sure if he is as lazy or even lazier as town though.
I generally ignore meta most of the time. I don't play often enough anyway for it to usually matter much. Even less on this site.
Total disinterest until he has any kind of pressure. Then a D1 case on 1 person. on D5? He's also not trying to push this read.
Kind of falls into that same world Grack fell into for me. If you're missing for tons of time, I don't mind so much. But Palmar is half lurking under the guise he 'doesn't need to do anything because other people took the lead'. The past 2 days is the best material I've seen out of him all game. And it just doesn't amount to much except for repeating everything that we've already been over. Worse is I think he's only done that much finally because he's starting to get votes for not doing anything.
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I also think that's kind of curious Disfo.
I see your point too Rayn. From my own filter:
Town has no way of knowing in the first place so at best nai? Mafia without setup knowledge have no way of knowing. Town SL could throw that claim out. He'll be mostly laughed at for it (exactly what happened) The only way TW would know the 100% validity of SL's claim either way is if TW is mafia and I'm either on the team(making it pluasible) or not(100%Fake). Even if Disfo, Rux, and myself where mafia we still couldn't know the validity of SL's claim 100% unless we knew the setup.
I wouldn't see any reason to town read TW for that post.
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It's a boring lynch. That worries me. If Palmar is town here meh. I could apply the same general thought process to a few other players this game. I ran along the same path on Grack but he had wifom city lego blocks in my head too. So I was a bit more confident on him. Still was wrong. I still want to lynch him though because at this point in the game he's proven that he's not going to play much one way or another. Which isn't constructive for town, only hurts it. And if constructing stances with "I looked at this filter and think he's town/null/scum" with no follow up, explanation, or desire to actually do anything with those reads (the one exception being a D1 case on D5) is considered 'good town play', then I'm worse at this than I thought. More so when everyone around at the time was saying 'convince us of your lynch'. And he just putters out with a "I'll vote Rels to survive". Counting on being meta read is a terrible way to play. I know both alignments play the lurk/uninterested/afk type of thing all the time though. Makes me nervous 
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To be fair I've said I wasn't a huge fan of Palmar before. He didn't fit with my original poe team. But when that was proven to be wrong I pretty much went back to were I was with him before it. Same general problem I have with BH right now. BH has done what exactly? I'd literally have to go filter him because the things I remember amount to "Hi, I'm glad I can continue to be useless!" The fact that he "lived up to it" means nothing to me. I got scum read by most people in the game and at least I try to play when I am around.
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Yeah, I have to start getting ready for work myself. If I risk traffic I might be around until deadline.
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You do realize there's an hour left right?
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