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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
June 12 2017 22:55 GMT
#117
/in

Times killed my last attempt at playing. Round 2 time!
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
June 14 2017 18:23 GMT
#585
On June 15 2017 03:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
I forgot rayn was in this game lol what were the points against him?



He made 1 sentence in 1 post defending Koshi. The issue is he said he didn't think HF/Disform's arguements made Koshi mafia. HF/Disform never claimed that but cased him as 3p.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
June 14 2017 18:24 GMT
#586
p.s. caught up finally. I should be around for a while now
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
June 14 2017 18:27 GMT
#591
He wasn't suppose to tell anyone about my sex change!
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
June 14 2017 18:29 GMT
#595
On June 15 2017 03:27 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 03:24 Eversince wrote:
p.s. caught up finally. I should be around for a while now


thoughts on this:

Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 18:21 sicklucker wrote:
alright boys im hard claiming cop with a red check on eversince.




SL being trollish is the way I took it. Seemed like he wanted something other than HF/Koshi fight.
Which is fine. I am honestly more concerned with the people that rolled around the idea that we should lynch into us off a D1 red check claim vs a person who has yet to even post.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
June 14 2017 18:32 GMT
#598
I'm probably going to re-read. In a few minutes.

@HF, when did you back off your Koshi read? I missed it but you seem ok with that lynch again as of p29
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
June 14 2017 18:34 GMT
#600
@Xata- Why is Rayn a good lynch? Somebody sell me on this. I'm not seeing it at all
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
June 14 2017 18:42 GMT
#604
Everything I remember reading stems from the mafia/3p banter.
Then tunneling onto the fact he's not been here.

On June 14 2017 11:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways, work time now. See you guys in 16 hours or so!


It's just now been 16 hours. I'm going to need a stronger case then "He's not being vocal and leading the town while he's 90% afk! He must be mafia!". That also makes me really question on why people seem to be having such a hard time with point 1. He might just of been skimming to keep somewhat up-to-date. He said he'd explain it and I am worried this will turn into a bickering match instead of that happening.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
June 14 2017 18:52 GMT
#613
Explains why I missed it then.

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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
June 14 2017 19:16 GMT
#645
HF aside from Koshi being 3p and Rayn being mafia who else? You mentioned Ruxx at one point when Koshi 'defended'? Alls he did was word out the Ruxx tone vs content as he saw it I think.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
June 14 2017 19:41 GMT
#669
On June 15 2017 04:21 Koshi wrote:
and you are town. There is no way you keep kicking somebody you know is not mafia.


Assuming your town why would this be? Even if you're 3p I'm not sure how you'd come to that conclusion.
That is entirely what mafia would do. It's the only option they have. They know who is not mafia so kicking not mafia is their only option to win. Kind of in their win-con.

This is causing me to tin foil a lot and I was trying to wait on a response before I mentioned it. HF pushing hard on you, having no real problem with lynching Rayn, pocketing? easy 'town reads' (after reading up I suspect if I had been around last night alls I would needed to do would have been pop in, vote you, chat a bit and got labeled town ez for at least this cycle.) This is all town motivated in your mind? Commence fight/kill off the 3p Koshi, engage bonus shit fight with Rayn, enjoy town chaos from glorious golden throne as city burns.

The last half of my scenario hasn't happened yet. But I would be lying if the thought hasn't crossed my mind. But you're an easy target because you do produce weak reads. You haven't got anyone aside from Palmar? as a possible mafia. And you'd rather quit and get lynched than play. I don't think you're mafia. So that would make you martyr town or 3p. One might be good/bad for town. The prior is only ever bad for town. But it's easy to see why you're being pushed.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
June 14 2017 19:49 GMT
#679
On June 15 2017 04:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 04:41 Eversince wrote:
On June 15 2017 04:21 Koshi wrote:
and you are town. There is no way you keep kicking somebody you know is not mafia.


Assuming your town why would this be? Even if you're 3p I'm not sure how you'd come to that conclusion.
That is entirely what mafia would do. It's the only option they have. They know who is not mafia so kicking not mafia is their only option to win. Kind of in their win-con.

This is causing me to tin foil a lot and I was trying to wait on a response before I mentioned it. HF pushing hard on you, having no real problem with lynching Rayn, pocketing? easy 'town reads' (after reading up I suspect if I had been around last night alls I would needed to do would have been pop in, vote you, chat a bit and got labeled town ez for at least this cycle.) This is all town motivated in your mind? Commence fight/kill off the 3p Koshi, engage bonus shit fight with Rayn, enjoy town chaos from glorious golden throne as city burns.

The last half of my scenario hasn't happened yet. But I would be lying if the thought hasn't crossed my mind. But you're an easy target because you do produce weak reads. You haven't got anyone aside from Palmar? as a possible mafia. And you'd rather quit and get lynched than play. I don't think you're mafia. So that would make you martyr town or 3p. One might be good/bad for town. The prior is only ever bad for town. But it's easy to see why you're being pushed.


breaking character to state that this is the scummiest post in the thread so far for me


Never break character

*Shrugs* I didn't really expect my opinion to be popular. But it is honest.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
June 14 2017 20:56 GMT
#719
On June 15 2017 05:17 disformation wrote:
think i am getting an headache.
i am not sure I like hf's post on koshi. the case one. i feel like hf is overdramatizing some points.
on the other hand i am not sure i like kohsis response either.

Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 04:41 Eversince wrote:
On June 15 2017 04:21 Koshi wrote:
and you are town. There is no way you keep kicking somebody you know is not mafia.


Assuming your town why would this be? Even if you're 3p I'm not sure how you'd come to that conclusion.
That is entirely what mafia would do. It's the only option they have. They know who is not mafia so kicking not mafia is their only option to win. Kind of in their win-con.

This is causing me to tin foil a lot and I was trying to wait on a response before I mentioned it. HF pushing hard on you, having no real problem with lynching Rayn, pocketing? easy 'town reads' (after reading up I suspect if I had been around last night alls I would needed to do would have been pop in, vote you, chat a bit and got labeled town ez for at least this cycle.) This is all town motivated in your mind? Commence fight/kill off the 3p Koshi, engage bonus shit fight with Rayn, enjoy town chaos from glorious golden throne as city burns.

The last half of my scenario hasn't happened yet. But I would be lying if the thought hasn't crossed my mind. But you're an easy target because you do produce weak reads. You haven't got anyone aside from Palmar? as a possible mafia. And you'd rather quit and get lynched than play. I don't think you're mafia. So that would make you martyr town or 3p. One might be good/bad for town. The prior is only ever bad for town. But it's easy to see why you're being pushed.

this post is fairly overexplainy and hard to follow in general. can you break it down into a core message and write what you wanted to say in like 2 sentences?


I can try!

Koshi saying mafia HF would back off makes no sense to me. Town HF would hopefully look at the bigger picture and adjust reads. Mafia HF would have no reason to at this point I think. (Town Koshi is a mis-lynch, 3p Koshi is less likely to work with you if you spend all your time trying to kill him). A large part of me wants to say HF is town. A little part of me is worried by the fact HF has spent lots of time focusing on two people and not anything else (his words).

Short short tldr:

HF thinks Koshi is anti-town. Decide HF motive yourself. Koshi needs to be more vocal about his opinions. If Koshi gets lynched by the town for not being productive then fine. If he gets mis-lynched because thread sentiment makes it easy... not so much.





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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
June 15 2017 22:45 GMT
#1541
This is going to make me look like garbage.

I haven't read anything since pg 35ish. Give me the the rough of what's happen between now and then for Xata, Annul, and SL.

I don't have time to fact check so my vote is entirely blind at this point.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
June 15 2017 22:58 GMT
#1611
I asked for rough's of what everyone has done and HF is the only person to actually do it. But it's to late for a SL switch so I'm just consolidating.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
June 16 2017 14:29 GMT
#1911
I'd be interested in it. I'm still down on pg 60 because I couldn't be bothered to play catch up yesterday after the flip.
So pre-15ish flip/ 2 pg after it.

I'll check periodically
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
June 16 2017 16:32 GMT
#1968
I'm around. Largely confused and trying to digest the 60 pages I needed to catch up on.


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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
June 16 2017 16:38 GMT
#1971
On June 17 2017 01:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 16:52 Rels wrote:
On June 15 2017 12:05 darthfoley wrote:
Anyone else wonder why Rels was like 24 town reads with caveats to every read? How can you call Xata's post on ruXxar "good' when he just copy and pasted what like 4 other people have already pointed out?

On June 15 2017 12:07 darthfoley wrote:
Like how can Rels view my case on Xatalos as convincing and pretty good while also town reading Xatalos for a thread sentiment case on ruXxar?

Don't like Rels so far

It was a chronological list of things of interest while I was catching up. When I found something on a player that was already on the list I just put another thing under the list of that player.
So:
DF:
- also understanding Skynx post + doing his own thing (p 18). Dunno why he doesn't like Xata though. Didnt find anything Xata did so far was AI.
- nice post explaining why Xata is scummy. Convincing too, the bit where Xata missed Skynx' logic.

First dash refers to this post.
Second dash refers to this post.

Then this:
Xata:
- good post on ruxxar.

Refers to this post.

this post. it is all over the place, starts from nothing and ends up on nothing.
idk how to explain it more clearly.



I took it as Rels was catching up and just had a word doc off to the side making bullet point notes on people as he caught up. A lot of people thought that looked weird and questioned his progression process since everything seemed to jump around. The post you quote here is him explaining that.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
June 16 2017 16:41 GMT
#1974
Not that that's something he has to worry about right now anyway right?
Out of claims I think HF/Skynx have both claimed to have a gun.

So Xata/me are the top picks as far as I can tell.
Although HF says he'll drop his on Koshi last I remember and Skinx was to somebody I forgot.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
June 16 2017 16:48 GMT
#1985
On my EoD stuff:

I ask for reads and SL: "vote with me if you think I'm town" Nothing else.
HF: vote for SL and loosely explains why. Nothings else.

I missed Rels big qoute post on Xata but I don't think it would have mattered.

Since I was left with "Blindly follow this because it's the one I want" I just blindly consolidated.

SL claiming I have him as a top town read at the time is funny.
And expecting me to make a vote based off reads that are almost 40 pg old, after I openly admit that my reads are outdated and I have no time to read to adjust them. Ooff to me.

HF claiming I say he's the only one to give input is misconstrued. Other than Rels post that I missed, he was the only one who said the reason for why I should vote with him. He just failed to do it for any of the other two wagons.

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