EPTso there must be scum on the annul wagon, yep. and probably one or more scum on xata wagon, being in the qt like "meh, I'll just stay on Xata to gain bus cred"
fair distribution IMHO
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beentheredonethat
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so there must be scum on the annul wagon, yep. and probably one or more scum on xata wagon, being in the qt like "meh, I'll just stay on Xata to gain bus cred" fair distribution IMHO | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
since everyone but skynx and me on that wagon already flipped that would be quite hard. and while i appreciate some paranoia, i am not sure how you are going to read me as scum outside of tinfoil.^^ | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
but i think it is very very unlikely he is scum. | ||
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disformation
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
On June 19 2017 18:17 disformation wrote: one or more? since everyone but skynx and me on that wagon already flipped that would be quite hard. and while i appreciate some paranoia, i am not sure how you are going to read me as scum outside of tinfoil.^^ I think it's possible for darth, skynx and you to be scum Skynx and darth over you though. | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
so four in eleven | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
disfo feels town yeah disfo is town. | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
pure wagon would mean four in eight amazing | ||
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
On June 19 2017 18:01 beentheredonethat wrote: like, xata posted baby seals at some point so he conceded. that makes it super likely that there are scummers on the xata wagon to gain towncred. He conceded because no one bought his fake ass cop claim except for you lol | ||
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
On June 19 2017 18:36 beentheredonethat wrote: I think it's possible for darth, skynx and you to be scum Skynx and darth over you though. Let me get some of what you're smoking please. There's like a 0.1% chance I'm mafia yet you say the person scum!Xata "red checked" is more town than the person/main reason Xata died in the first place | ||
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
On June 19 2017 19:00 darthfoley wrote: Let me get some of what you're smoking please. There's like a 0.1% chance I'm mafia yet you say the person scum!Xata "red checked" is more town than the person/main reason Xata died in the first place I'm interested in the math behind this Trump-like "0.1% chance I'm mafia" statement. It's plain bullshit. You pushed a scummer and went through it, congrats, I did the same, except I afk'ed D1 and ended up voting Koshi instead of Xata. Yet you scumread me and claim to be 99.9% town? | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
On June 19 2017 19:01 darthfoley wrote: Your reads baffle me All of a sudden they do while D1, you re-posted what I said on Xata. You're perfectly capable of being scum here. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Disformation is probably town after all. I find it hard to believe Xatalos claim a read check on his teammate. Although it's not impossible i find it very very unlikely. That means if there was mafia on Xatalos wagon D1 it's going to be Skynx since there is basically no way darthfoley is mafia. However in the unlike scenario that disformation is mafia i strongly believe ruxxar is mafia too. He was like super certain disformation is not mafia with Xatalos and assuming mafia knew about Xatalos' plan to claim (which is also likely) ruxxar's disformation town case doesn't look that good. Basically it was based on the fact that disformation voted Xatalos at a time "mafia wouldn't vote for him" which is certainly false. darthfoley you probably know what i am talking about here since imo you bussed Calix in that one game in a similar manner, you know like vote at the time that still gives you options to back off if needed but you "look good" in case you do have to bus in the end (or your teammate doesn't get lynched anyways). I need to check a couple of things regarding this later, since other than that ruxxar looks quite townie imo. Fuck it actually disformation doesn't even have to be mafia if ruxxar is... Anyways; It is certainly possible that Xatalos wagon doesn't have mafia there at all. I know i am not mafia and Damdred was not mafia. It is certainly possible AMG/marvellosity slots have 1-2 there. Liek Palmar said at some point there is a possiblity marv would quit the game if rolling scum, he has done it before. Unfortunately we have no way of knowing if they asked to be replaced or just got replaced because they were completely MIA. I have yet to check into Chezitwo / Blazinghand filters since i thought it is fair to give them a couple of irl days to catch up on the game. I have actually surprisingly good track record in reading Blazinghand so that should not be a problem even later on. I don't know who Chezitwo is, he seems like a level headed guy though from first glance. My point was though, even if they were both mafia (Chez/BH) there is still scum on annul wagon, and it is quite clear mafia voted to save Xatalos. There is still Palmar/Vivax/btdt/Tumblewood that voted off wagons aswell. I would say mostly, MOSTLY 1 mafia in those four people and i already think Vivax and Palmar are town. I think VA makes an interesting case on FF. I am gonna revisit my read on him since i believe that case makes a lot of sense. My read on FF was purely based on his opening on darthfoley and how he went with it. I honestly never really cared about to revisit him after that since i didn't see anything that would raise my eyebrows. And I know i can't read 20 people, or like focus on having super good reads on all of the people in the game (like in mini-games you can do that, but that's not at least how i play in big games). But yeah, VA's case makes me wanna revisit FF. I have something to say about btdt most likely, i will check a couple of things when i am off work tonight to confirm i am not talking out of my ass (i skimmed through what i haven't read yet). The rest of annul D1 voters are sicklucker/Rels/Grackaroni/Eversince. I believe we find at least 2 mafia here. I don't think lynching annul over Xatalos would have been that "easy" - from what i gathered from D1 end - in case mafia wouldn't place votes there. I am interested in digging more into why Palamr and Vivax thought sicklucker is mafia, because i don't think that's not at all out of question. Well basically everyone of those 4 could be mafia. Knowing both annul's and Xatalos' alignments this post looks super fishy: On June 16 2017 07:23 Rels wrote: Don't see a town motivation on annul's vote on Xata then begging Xata to vote SL. EITHER he prefers to lynch SL, then voting SL at that point puts him above him with 1 hour to see what happens OR he prefers Xata, but why the begging to Xata so he votes SL then Doesn't make any sense. Scum. Very likely There is basically "nothing wrong" with it, it is just perfect "case" to make as mafia as you hit two birds at once. You protect your teammate AND you have a reasonable reason to vote for the other wagon. Here is another post: On June 17 2017 08:08 Rels wrote: wow that makes Eversince town. My big quote was about annul. So to those thinking ES was faking entering the thread (and Ithought that too befor ethat post), is she faked that she wouldn't mess up the names there. That means the entering the thread was innocent at the very least. Look at what this post says. "Eversince is town because people are calling her mafia for a reason that does not make her mafia". Now while the second bolded part is true, the green part doesn't make any sense. The second bolded part makes Eversince's entering the thread makes it not alignment indigative, yet Rels jumps to a conclusion that it makes her town for no real reason. This is what i call a BS read. I'll go through the rest of the filters and what i reminded myself to check after work. I am back ~3 hrs before the deadline to talk if anyone wants to talk. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On June 19 2017 18:39 beentheredonethat wrote: So voting wise, Rels, Grack, Eversince, Skynx, darthfoley, (disformation), VA, Tumblewood, raynpelikoneet, marv replacement, AMG replacement so four in eleven Seems like you've gotten "a lot" of parsing done in this game so far.... What's the point of calling 11/17 alive possible mafia? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
On June 19 2017 18:13 beentheredonethat wrote: two wagons, one scum, one town, and even scum roleblocker. so there must be scum on the annul wagon, yep. and probably one or more scum on xata wagon, being in the qt like "meh, I'll just stay on Xata to gain bus cred" fair distribution IMHO "One or more scum" lol the mafia RB is critical without medic/cop flipped. The idea that 40% of the mafia team, assuming there are five mafia, would be okay with the RB going down D1 just for some town cred is pretty silly. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
On June 19 2017 19:03 beentheredonethat wrote: I'm interested in the math behind this Trump-like "0.1% chance I'm mafia" statement. It's plain bullshit. You pushed a scummer and went through it, congrats, I did the same, except I afk'ed D1 and ended up voting Koshi instead of Xata. Yet you scumread me and claim to be 99.9% town? Lol, stop equating my pushing with yours. I actually voted for the scum while you wasted yours on confirmed town for bullshit reasons of one sentence in one post lol. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
On June 19 2017 20:20 darthfoley wrote: Lol, stop equating my pushing with yours. I actually voted for the scum while you wasted yours on confirmed town for bullshit reasons of one sentence in one post lol. My vote on or off Xata was super irrelevant D2. I could've voted Hillary, Trump, Xata or he-who-must-not-be-named. No difference at all. And how is Chezitwo confirmed town? And of course you're right, I cannot equate your push with mine. After all, my push was earlier than yours and you picked up what I said, then you proceeded to get scum lynched. Good stuff but that doesn't make me scum; nor does it confirm you as town. Of course it puts you super high on the town list but given the ease with which Xata went down (no fight, auto, no scum even bothering to put someone else on the table in spite of the Ruxxar bait) I'm not clearing anyone who pushed him yet. | ||
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