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i agree that btdt's read progression on koshi later d1 is really strange.
dont understand how he goes from:
On June 15 2017 17:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
Good morning. It's a bank holiday today in Germany and I am spending it with my GF on a wandering tour. I'll probably be in front of a computer in the evening if at all.
I skimmed everything besides the last two pages. Koshi looks better, Xata worse. Ruxxar weird. My mind screamed TOWN when I read rayns big post but I didn't like that he disappeared right after. Hf still town.
Disfo not town anymore because rayn made me paranoid.
Thats kind of where im at.
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On June 16 2017 01:58 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 00:04 Koshi wrote:On June 15 2017 00:03 darthfoley wrote:
I don't like the annul town reads.
I think his A-B comparison thing is scummy. I agree with Koshi and darthfoley here
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On June 16 2017 02:04 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 04:08 Koshi wrote:
I am obvious town and you can't fucking read me HF. How shit are you then? Just because I didn't open like I used to and now you are fucking reading everything as biased as fuck in some wicked way to proof you can read somebody after 1 sentence while you are so fucking blind it is really hilarious tbh.
This is the thing why I don't buy Koshi's "rage" by the way. Like, when you start a big sentence, people will remember the first and the last thing you said and not the whole rest. The structure used here is "I am obvious town", then blabla reasons "just because", followed up by "you're so fucking blind it's hilarious". Koshi shouldn't put emphasis on WHAT he is. He will always claim town, as anyone would, regardless of actual alignment. But instead, he yells "I AM TOWN", puts the reasoning (which is the IMPORTANT part) right between two seemingly emotional statements I have caught Koshi already as scum D1 and I'm fairly confident here. When I skimmed this morning he looked better but I just skimmed. so, yeah. my vote is good where it's at.
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On June 16 2017 02:06 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 04:10 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. Enough rage. You won't see more of that. Please somebody call it fake rage. I am going to post less because this is not really fun for me and when a lot of people are tunneled there is not much I can do.
I'll continue to solve the game but might just do a couple posts from time to time. But maybe not that much.
I have enough pages of filter to let you analyse. I was truthful in every post and tried to solve the game. Problem is that trying was greeted by dumb accusation way too many times instead of some help. He claimed to post less, then went on to post actually more than he did before (3.5 pages of filter). Which is town indicative in a weird way?
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On June 16 2017 02:08 beentheredonethat wrote:Okay I am officially tunneled on Koshi :D Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 05:14 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. I also don't see why Ruxxar is mafia. More likely lynchbait.
It's not because somebody types things you think are weird/disagree with that he is mafia. You have to look at motive and the intention to solve the game within a person his capabilities. He wants to lynch you though. So is he lynchbait or is he scum being fine with the Koshi wagon?
the tunnel post is ultra strange to me...
over xata. who he also scumread quite heavily, but ignored pretty hard during that time. did he ever comment on xata's big reads post?
wish he would have been there at deadline. would have been interesting to see where his vote ended up.
i feel like btdt's rage d2 was slightly more town, but he is very volatile as either alignment. Xata baby sealing it up can also be either a way to discredit btdt or protect him. so d2 is a bit wifomy for btdt and i kinda want to treat it as nai.
@btdt can you explain that progression a bit more?
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also @btdt:
can you link the game where you found scum koshi d1?
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as for my tr on vivax:
i once had a game where i got in a huge annoying fight with vivax n1.
Got tilted pretty hard, claimed cop n1. as the cop. not entirely vivi's fault was way too stressed out about the game etc..
vivi was town too btw.
since then i kinda have this read that if someone wants to strangle, he is likely town.
On June 19 2017 05:33 Vivax wrote:
And besides it's factually wrong in DFs case as I have been posting enough for an auto day, and for disfo it's just pointless as no matter how many times you find yourself disagreeing with someone, it won't make that someone mafia unless you have something in particular.
I have I think all my reads explained, some are more superficial some less and if you think you are in another game then go to that post, quote it and tell me what's wrong about it.
But what you're doing is pointless waste of space.
the bold part is like exactly the tone that made me go up the wall in the cop game.
plus he is fairly stubborn in his dealings with df, too.
so i think he fulfills the criteria.
i'd prolly lynch a whole lot of ppl before vivi for now.
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the solution to btdt playing how he played is super easy
I have not read a lot of this game. Thus I stick to claims. darthfoley's narrative is super fake and I am highly worried about him being scum. Here's why:
1. I was not in thread when Xata vs. Annul happened. I left the thread and I only came back after the flip. I hadn't read shit and I would've joined the Xata train if I had been in thread. You're completely dismissing the fact that I simply wasn't there. There was no possibility for me to vote Xata.
2. During N1, I repeatedly said that Xata should be the shot.
3. When I came back to the thread (and admittedly didn't read shit) I was super content with Xata being the lynch. I joined his wagon rather early.
4. Yep, I defended scum claiming cop. Why the fuck would I go out of my scum way to defend my scum teammate who at the point where I'm trying it is already the lynch? It's absolutely pointless, it's dumb, and it doesn't even fit my scum meta. The last game where I was scum was won because I bussed my teammate super hardcore, starting D1. Why would I ever stop blaming Xata here?
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oh, Ruxxar, regarding you baiting people into voting off-wagon and especially your conclusion: you voted sicklucker. And I went for the red ckeck and I went for chez who I thought to be scum. HOW EXACTLY is scum!btdt following your "let's vote sicklucker" stuff?
Correct. I'm not.
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On June 19 2017 17:12 disformation wrote:
also @btdt:
can you link the game where you found scum koshi d1?
something between generic I and generic II I think, I'm too lazy to dig.
basically, I nailed Koshi D1 but didn't get him lynched, then I was mislynched (by Koshi?) and he flipped scum lateron. I was super mad I didn't have the confidence to go through with it
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Chez gets town cred by the way
totally undeserved from a moralistic point of view
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On June 19 2017 17:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
the solution to btdt playing how he played is super easy
I have not read a lot of this game. Thus I stick to claims. darthfoley's narrative is super fake and I am highly worried about him being scum. Here's why:
1. I was not in thread when Xata vs. Annul happened. I left the thread and I only came back after the flip. I hadn't read shit and I would've joined the Xata train if I had been in thread. You're completely dismissing the fact that I simply wasn't there. There was no possibility for me to vote Xata.
2. During N1, I repeatedly said that Xata should be the shot.
3. When I came back to the thread (and admittedly didn't read shit) I was super content with Xata being the lynch. I joined his wagon rather early.
4. Yep, I defended scum claiming cop. Why the fuck would I go out of my scum way to defend my scum teammate who at the point where I'm trying it is already the lynch? It's absolutely pointless, it's dumb, and it doesn't even fit my scum meta. The last game where I was scum was won because I bussed my teammate super hardcore, starting D1. Why would I ever stop blaming Xata here?
bold part is correct. which is why i said "wish he was there at deadline"
the problem i have is the following:
from your filter i am not sure why you were so confident in your koshi read that you voted koshi over xata in the first place.
basically where you go from "koshi looks better, xata worse" to the "tunnel" on koshi
guess ill try to dig up the game you are referring to later
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On June 19 2017 17:08 disformation wrote:i agree that btdt's read progression on koshi later d1 is really strange. dont understand how he goes from: Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 17:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
Good morning. It's a bank holiday today in Germany and I am spending it with my GF on a wandering tour. I'll probably be in front of a computer in the evening if at all.
I skimmed everything besides the last two pages. Koshi looks better, Xata worse. Ruxxar weird. My mind screamed TOWN when I read rayns big post but I didn't like that he disappeared right after. Hf still town.
Disfo not town anymore because rayn made me paranoid.
Thats kind of where im at. to: Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 01:58 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 15 2017 00:04 Koshi wrote:On June 15 2017 00:03 darthfoley wrote:
I don't like the annul town reads.
I think his A-B comparison thing is scummy. I agree with Koshi and darthfoley here to: Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 02:04 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 15 2017 04:08 Koshi wrote:
I am obvious town and you can't fucking read me HF. How shit are you then? Just because I didn't open like I used to and now you are fucking reading everything as biased as fuck in some wicked way to proof you can read somebody after 1 sentence while you are so fucking blind it is really hilarious tbh.
This is the thing why I don't buy Koshi's "rage" by the way. Like, when you start a big sentence, people will remember the first and the last thing you said and not the whole rest. The structure used here is "I am obvious town", then blabla reasons "just because", followed up by "you're so fucking blind it's hilarious". Koshi shouldn't put emphasis on WHAT he is. He will always claim town, as anyone would, regardless of actual alignment. But instead, he yells "I AM TOWN", puts the reasoning (which is the IMPORTANT part) right between two seemingly emotional statements I have caught Koshi already as scum D1 and I'm fairly confident here. When I skimmed this morning he looked better but I just skimmed. so, yeah. my vote is good where it's at. to: Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 02:06 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 15 2017 04:10 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. Enough rage. You won't see more of that. Please somebody call it fake rage. I am going to post less because this is not really fun for me and when a lot of people are tunneled there is not much I can do.
I'll continue to solve the game but might just do a couple posts from time to time. But maybe not that much.
I have enough pages of filter to let you analyse. I was truthful in every post and tried to solve the game. Problem is that trying was greeted by dumb accusation way too many times instead of some help. He claimed to post less, then went on to post actually more than he did before (3.5 pages of filter). Which is town indicative in a weird way? to: Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 02:08 beentheredonethat wrote:Okay I am officially tunneled on Koshi :D On June 15 2017 05:14 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. I also don't see why Ruxxar is mafia. More likely lynchbait.
It's not because somebody types things you think are weird/disagree with that he is mafia. You have to look at motive and the intention to solve the game within a person his capabilities. He wants to lynch you though. So is he lynchbait or is he scum being fine with the Koshi wagon? the tunnel post is ultra strange to me... over xata. who he also scumread quite heavily, but ignored pretty hard during that time. did he ever comment on xata's big reads post? wish he would have been there at deadline. would have been interesting to see where his vote ended up. i feel like btdt's rage d2 was slightly more town, but he is very volatile as either alignment. Xata baby sealing it up can also be either a way to discredit btdt or protect him. so d2 is a bit wifomy for btdt and i kinda want to treat it as nai. @btdt can you explain that progression a bit more?
I had Koshi as scum. Then I came back to the thread, caught somewhat up (besides two pages), and my impression was that Koshi wasn't as scummy as I thought.
So I dropped what went through my mind at that point.
I then proceeded to rather randomly check people but ended up reading Koshi's filter once more (thus the tunneling comment, I found it funny because my intention was to not focus on Koshi), quoting posts I found interesting/scummy. Finally, I came to the conclusion that "no, Koshi actually didn't improve, he's still scum".
I was super surprised he was killed tbh because I wanted to push him D2 all day long with Xata being the vig shot
one can dream
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aight. well, who do you think is scum?
gut feeling tells me i like grack the least out of the usual suspects on the annul train.
but i will reread him later.
though it would be nice if rels would explain his d1 read on xata.
dunno i hope we have like 5 investigatives xD
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I have no idea who's scum. I thought it's you and chez and I haven't read shit ever since (pun not intended)
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like, xata posted baby seals at some point so he conceded. that makes it super likely that there are scummers on the xata wagon to gain towncred.
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i also have a tr on like most/nearly all of the more active players.
so it is also possible that scum is like team afk and has very very little thread presence.
actually somewhat likely.
i also hope rayn starts posting soon, cause he is super null so far to me.
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On June 19 2017 18:01 beentheredonethat wrote:
like, xata posted baby seals at some point so he conceded. that makes it super likely that there are scummers on the xata wagon to gain towncred.
fair point.
but that means it is either me or skynx.
and sorry to disappoint you: i am very much town. ;D
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that reminds me again.
i think hf pointed out some skynx posts as really bad.
adding skynx to my reread list.
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so i guess something like 1-2 more scum on annul, maybe skynx, one afk/off wagon would sound plausible to me.
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since xata was the rb there has to be more scum on annul though
dont think nobody of the scum team would at least try to save the rb
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On June 19 2017 18:02 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2017 18:01 beentheredonethat wrote:
like, xata posted baby seals at some point so he conceded. that makes it super likely that there are scummers on the xata wagon to gain towncred. fair point. but that means it is either me or skynx. and sorry to disappoint you: i am very much town. ;D
It's super possible that the fake check was a bus. Either you get town cred or he lynches you and gets universally read as cop.
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a bus makes sense imho. like, it's the roleblocker, you want to keep that alive, right?
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