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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 18 2017 23:57 GMT
#2841
On June 19 2017 08:54 darthfoley wrote:
Btdt is scum btw


I'm deadly serious about this btw
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 18 2017 23:58 GMT
#2842
Im getting your grave ready for you foley.
Its gonna be real comfy.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 18 2017 23:58 GMT
#2843
vivi prolly town. remind me to explain later.
could you explain the btdt scum read?
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 18 2017 23:58 GMT
#2844
Nice. Boring, but nice.once again I am carrying town to victory.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 19 2017 00:01 GMT
#2845
On June 19 2017 08:58 disformation wrote:
vivi prolly town. remind me to explain later.
could you explain the btdt scum read?


Yes. Give me a minute
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 19 2017 00:26 GMT
#2846
On June 16 2017 08:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 1


annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Rels, Grackaroni, Eversince
Xatalos (6): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation, annul, Holyflare
sicklucker (2): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax
Koshi (1): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivax
marvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood
Skynx (1): VayneAuthority
ruXxar (0): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax, annul
Tumblewood (0): ruXxar
Palmar (0): sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): Xatalos, sicklucker, Tumblewood
Palmar (0): Koshi, Skynx
beentheredonethat (0): Koshi
Eversince (0): sicklucker

Not voted (4): Damdred, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity

Half the Sky is getting ready to throw annul out of her whiskey bar.
Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).


The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.



So, firstly. Let's see who btdt votes for during this entire voting cycle: Koshi, and Koshi only. Who's town. That's only a minor point, however. What's more interesting is if you take a look at BTDT's filter, specifically revolving around Xatalos. I've spoilered it to keep my post condensed, but I've basically control+F'd "Xata" in his filter.

From the beginning:

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 14 2017 20:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Xata you're not saying anything in your posts, you're just commenting on things and speculating about 3rd party

that's superbad


Xata starts out as "superbad." Then, I pressure both Xata with my vote, and I pressure btdt to put his money where his mouth is and join me.

On June 14 2017 22:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 22:40 darthfoley wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:14 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 21:28 Koshi wrote:
Let me do this:
##vote btdt
- Focused on a very small part of this thread.
- Reads seem more opportunistic than real.
- Very strong and closed in his language/thoughts. Not carefree and open.


I can explain it with many words but I am going to keep it at this for the time being.

so I

a) comment intensely on koshi/hf/you
b) scumread you, not following the 3p thing (alhtough a vote is a vote of course)
c) call out annul
d) poke xata

* and I'm opportunistic? Opportinistic would be to vote rayn
* a small part of this thread? the major part of this thread.

how am I not carefree? I think I'm super carefree lol


Let's vote Xata together, right now. You and I. Forever.

While I favour the general idea, can you please state your reasons?


On June 14 2017 22:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 22:47 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:46 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:42 darthfoley wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:28 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 18:21 sicklucker wrote:
alright boys im hard claiming cop with a red check on eversince.


This makes it real simple.
Lynch eversince.
If green, lynch sicklucker.

Guaranteed 1 scum down.


How is this an intelligent plan at all?

#3 to say that
(I think, maybe more)

darth comes on the town pile.



If he's the third person to say it why is he town??


TIL you can only have one person make a claim and one other person agree with the claim before any other people become suspect

So passive aggressive

but for real, my impression is that darth is catching up and quoting and posting where he deems it appropriate. super gut feeling but I think it's town. not only does he think the same about ruxxar as I do, [darthfoley] also doesn't like Xata apparently and I don't like Xata, too


Cool. We both don't like Xata. And Btdt is town reading me in part due to our mutual scum read on Xata. I've placed my vote on him already. Btdt hasn't.

On June 14 2017 22:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 22:54 darthfoley wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:40 darthfoley wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:14 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 21:28 Koshi wrote:
Let me do this:
##vote btdt
- Focused on a very small part of this thread.
- Reads seem more opportunistic than real.
- Very strong and closed in his language/thoughts. Not carefree and open.


I can explain it with many words but I am going to keep it at this for the time being.

so I

a) comment intensely on koshi/hf/you
b) scumread you, not following the 3p thing (alhtough a vote is a vote of course)
c) call out annul
d) poke xata

* and I'm opportunistic? Opportinistic would be to vote rayn
* a small part of this thread? the major part of this thread.

how am I not carefree? I think I'm super carefree lol


Let's vote Xata together, right now. You and I. Forever.

While I favour the general idea, can you please state your reasons?


We mindmelded at almost the same time about Xata. Simply put, his filter is basically him trying to make friends and say nothing about everything.

On June 14 2017 16:42 Xatalos wrote:
On June 14 2017 16:32 Skynx wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:57 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:38 disformation wrote:
good morning everyone!

omw to work yada yada etc.

agreeing with ruxxar that green colour is best colour.
dont understand why xata is voting rayn.
hf had first post so hes basically conf. town.
might sheep onto hoshi later.
df's "wooohooo" post sounded a bit fake, i conclude he still had a bad mood.

hrre is hoping for a slow day at work.


Strong first post. I like

You like this post? Can you elaborate why or you just felt like posting?

Cuz he agrees that green is good, good shit there.
First post conf town, goos shit there.
Xata and HF both voted in same pattern but he sheeps one but doesn't understand the other??
Comment on DF is fine but he can easily back down from anything that soft so it doesn't really matter.

Very good post here.


Haha.. Indeed it's quite nothing in the guise of something.


Buddy post that doesn't accurately depict what Skynx's post was actually about ruXxar.

I feel like he also gave Koshi two too many posts about how Koshi caught him with the smiley thing. It just felt as if he gave that off hand comment too much attention (three posts in total).

On June 14 2017 17:47 Xatalos wrote:
Skynx: true, ruxxar's +1 is more blendy than disfo's vague list, especially in reaction to said list.. very meh

disfo: that's pretty.. detail-focused it'd be very funny if he turned out to be SK or something (I think that was a possible role?)


followed by

On June 14 2017 17:47 Xatalos wrote:
TBH I don't think it tells much of anything though


I know it's early but his whole filter has been filler. Hardly any stances taken. The ones he's taken have either been retractable, misconstrued (like the skynx post) or buddy attempts at various "town leader" type people. In my position, I would've said something along the lines of "oh my bad, I misread the point of your post..." but he just rolled with the mistake

+1

I like this and it reflects what I'm thinking as well.


Nice! BTDT likes my case, and it reflects what he's thinking as well. So BTDT "generally favors" my idea to vote/lynch Xata, and likes my case! So what's he waiting on with his vote? Good question.

On June 14 2017 23:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 23:29 Damdred wrote:
On June 14 2017 23:24 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 23:15 Damdred wrote:
@HF I have feelings about koshi. I don't think he is mafia, could potentially be third party, possibly town. In either case I don't have anything super strong to say he is town.

I do think if rayn is scum koshi can't be, but I'd rather not be bad and rest on that yet.

@btdt, I still think that first sentence is borderline if not fear mongering. Even if you say all the rest that first sentence gives you enough wiggle room to go back on all of the rest. I don't like it. And as for low on hf, he's burned me enough for me to not be in absolutes.


Yeah I'm pretty sure nobody else has every said that HF's scumgame is good.
Like, you even imply it in the bolded part.
So if you insist on me fearmongering here you'll have to admit that you're doing it too, just in a more subtle way.


I think yours is easier to go back on. And subtlety is the spice od life baby.

But really I might of missed some of the context of your post trying to catch up. Overall I agree with most of your posts.

So let me summarize

1. you point out how I am fearmongering with regards to holyflare
2. you insist that I do it
3. you do it yourself

And then you back off of me, saying you "might have missed some of the context" of my post.

Damdred comes on the scum pile for now. So Koshi, xata, Damdred.


Okay, Xata is officially on BTDT's scum list, with two other confirmed towns at this point. Which fits into the mafia narrative of 2:1 town:parter scum reads, but again, that's minor speculation.

On June 15 2017 17:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
Good morning. It's a bank holiday today in Germany and I am spending it with my GF on a wandering tour. I'll probably be in front of a computer in the evening if at all.

I skimmed everything besides the last two pages. Koshi looks better, Xata worse. Ruxxar weird. My mind screamed TOWN when I read rayns big post but I didn't like that he disappeared right after. Hf still town.

Disfo not town anymore because rayn made me paranoid.

Thats kind of where im at.


So, Koshi looks better, and Xata, his scum read looks worse. Remember, BTDT only votes on Koshi this cycle-- even though he's "looking better" while his other scum read is admittedly "looking worse."

On June 16 2017 15:09 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 15:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why it is a good thing Xatalos was 2nd wagon? Alot depends on his alignment votewise. But if you think he is scum isnt it a BAD thing he was a second wagon and not 1st????

I cancelled some plans today so i can focus better on catching up after work. I insta-fell asleep yesterday when i got home.


This is why the first bad thing was that annul was lynched over Xata.
I think Koshi worked his way up slowly but he didn't make it out of scum range.
Nevertheless he wasn't second wagon.
Xata was a good second wagon. Because Xata is also among my scumreads. I brought up some points early and I think darthfoley cased him, too, and I agreed with him.

So yes, Xata is a good second wagon.


This is directly after the lynch. Notice how he keeps talking about how he cased Xata, etc. But he N E V E R voted on him. EVER. He left his vote on fucking town!Koshi, who he even said looked "better" while confirmed mafia Xata looked worse.



watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 19 2017 00:27 GMT
#2847
Now that's what we call a solid fucking case.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 19 2017 00:30 GMT
#2848
He knew he wouldn't be able to get away with voting town!annul given his filter and scum reads on Xata, but he never committed to the read on Xata, even when it became a 1v1 with one of his three scum reads. Town will ALWAYS vote the wagon of their 2nd highest scum read if their highest scum read wagon isn't happening.

Let's not forget how over explanatory this post was for one sentence of Koshi content, in order to justify his meaningless vote on town!Koshi

On June 16 2017 02:04 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 04:08 Koshi wrote:
I am obvious town and you can't fucking read me HF. How shit are you then? Just because I didn't open like I used to and now you are fucking reading everything as biased as fuck in some wicked way to proof you can read somebody after 1 sentence while you are so fucking blind it is really hilarious tbh.

This is the thing why I don't buy Koshi's "rage" by the way.

Like, when you start a big sentence, people will remember the first and the last thing you said and not the whole rest. The structure used here is "I am obvious town", then blabla reasons "just because", followed up by "you're so fucking blind it's hilarious".

Koshi shouldn't put emphasis on WHAT he is. He will always claim town, as anyone would, regardless of actual alignment. But instead, he yells "I AM TOWN", puts the reasoning (which is the IMPORTANT part) right between two seemingly emotional statements

I have caught Koshi already as scum D1 and I'm fairly confident here.

When I skimmed this morning he looked better but I just skimmed. so, yeah. my vote is good where it's at.

watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 19 2017 01:05 GMT
#2849
Darn. All you EU people and your sleep
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
June 19 2017 01:10 GMT
#2850
I'm awake and highly American. We should vote btdt and write cases on him and see how angry he gets it's s 10/10 experience
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 19 2017 01:30 GMT
#2851
That's a pretty solid case foley, good work.

However, I'm still going to lynch into the people that were on the annul train first.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 19 2017 01:42 GMT
#2852
On June 19 2017 10:30 ruXxar wrote:
That's a pretty solid case foley, good work.

However, I'm still going to lynch into the people that were on the annul train first.


It's nearly 4AM in Norge. Time to sleep
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 19 2017 01:51 GMT
#2853
On June 19 2017 10:10 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm awake and highly American. We should vote btdt and write cases on him and see how angry he gets it's s 10/10 experience


I hope you're town because you're funny lol
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 19 2017 02:00 GMT
#2854
On June 16 2017 06:30 Koshi wrote:
I really hope the town within you guys keep a close eye on the thread and do that last minue Xatalos vote. Except for the 3 people realllllyyyy believing he is mafia he got a lot of pushback. rayn as well btw.

and looking at the Xatalos filter he is SUPER FUCKING EASY to vote on if he is town. What a fucking bad filter. So why isn't mafia doing that?


God damn this was a beautiful point. Said so at the time, but it's worth reiterating
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 19 2017 02:00 GMT
#2855
^which makes it even more suspect that BTDT never actually voted for Xata
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 19 2017 02:05 GMT
#2856
Reading Koshi filter and there's a chance Vivax might be mafia.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 19 2017 03:00 GMT
#2857
Ya please throwing suspicion at me so i don't get nked for everyone townreading me. I want to play at work next week
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 19 2017 04:34 GMT
#2858
Meh just read through Vivax's filter and I only saw a few things that concerned me. His adamant defense of Xata multiple times, and this post specifically:

On June 16 2017 20:29 Vivax wrote:
Nevermind that btdt I thought that the Xata read was before the lynch .

You actually had no opinion on Xata for the entirety of D1, or I'm not seeing it.


This is really false. Btdt was clear in stating his supposed his "scumread" on Xata as my previous post shows.

Anyways, I don't think he's a lynch anytime soon. But keep an eye out for the wily Viennese bonbon
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 19 2017 04:37 GMT
#2859
Damn I just reread that Koshi justification post and holy shit does it feel constructed and forced.

Koshi I'll make you proud with another scum lynch
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 19 2017 07:47 GMT
#2860
6 hours of sleep.
zombie disformation mode activated.
filtering btdt.

will sneak in some mafia at work. will def. be around this evening, but i think i might go to bed a tad earlier today.
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