EPTJust gonna vote when either of HF or BH gets lynched and make a token post during the day.
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Just gonna vote when either of HF or BH gets lynched and make a token post during the day. | ||
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I'm cop and redchecked HF (in spite of his BS vet claim at the end of the night). Now what's going to happen is: You're all going to go ham on whether cop and doc is likely in this setup. Everyone will either vote HF or me as it should be. At the end of the day nothing anyone ever said matters again and you will all just lynch another random person again in some attack of herd mentality (which is the prime reason I'm not happy with this game). And don't tell me that lynching fidei wasn't random as hell cause you were all literally just looking for someone else to lynch other than TW except for 1gu who actually had some real arguments. Now I will park my vote on HF, and probably afk until the end of the day when I check in to see if he got lynched. I literally don't care who you vote, but it has to be one of us. | ||
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This is HF from last game (mafia in generic II) attacking his teammate D1 and doing nothing with it. He just jumps from calling this guy mafia to pushing crap on someone else to jumping onto someone else again and again and again basically calling anyone who has any content whatsoever mafia/scummy at some point for whatever reason. A thing which people call driving the game forward cause it's tempting to think that when you see it. But in truth it just means HF doesn't have any real scumreads at any point in the game, just like in this one. On May 11 2017 08:46 Holyflare wrote: Are you saying I'm town without actually saying I'm town? I hate almost everything you wrote. On May 11 2017 08:49 Holyflare wrote: Why has your read on me suddenly flipped when nothing has changed since what you have said about me?? I mean.... 50% of your reads don't even have alignments attached to them so it's almost entirely worthless? On May 11 2017 16:16 Holyflare wrote: Can you explain this then? What exactly were you wrong about and why? This is HF this game (mafia) pushing on his teammate and doing nothing with it. He proceeds to start pushing suspicion on town! LS right afterwards and then somehow at EoD he ends up trying to push a lynch on the doc after defending the alleged coinflip BH all game who did fudge all during D1 and is currently even clueless as to why he's surviving after being openly scummy. On June 04 2017 20:27 Holyflare wrote: How on earth can you have both TW and I as scummy but want to lynch TW when I've been the biggest proponent to his lynch? On June 04 2017 20:29 Holyflare wrote: That list is so bull shit. If you think I haven't done enough then I'm null. But then you want to lynch my scum read for reasons I've outlined and that you apparently support. But I'm mafia on your list instead of null/towny which I should be if you agree with me. No. That doesn't add up at all. On June 04 2017 20:35 Holyflare wrote: This is hot garbage too. Not only is my LS read not wrong (he definitely ignored the interaction and even said so) but I'm pushing the person you directly think is mafia. You even reference he's still looking like mafia in your second paragraph, for more of the reasons I'm still outlining! Your return list post also cites his bad Grack read and BH read, which again, I pushed. No way you can simultaneously think these things in any sort of thought progression but still have me scummy. I was at a wedding and not doing much and pushing your scum read for things you agree about. So why am I still mafia? And this is a TMI post On June 06 2017 15:56 Holyflare wrote: I mean i don't have anything to add other than vote vivax even if he's fake claiming. It's his own fault if he's throwing when we're in a good spot. Not particularly hard to differentiate between us either. Vivax has pushed trash all game and he's mad mafia flipped :D He's been calling me scummy for a variety of reasons all game (like pushing BH doing nothing) and when he sees my claim he should be like "oh, this is vivax going for a 1 on 1 trade." And he should never think that this is me fakeclaiming AS TOWN if any of his previous reasons for me being mafia are something he actually believed in at any time. So this post shouldn't exist in a town!HF world. On June 07 2017 03:54 Holyflare wrote: I will play my trap card if you don't lynch vivax. Nobody wants that. And make him reveal what this trap card is which you won't achieve if you vote for me instead of him. What he's doing here is softing that he's actually blue but he won't see himself forced to claim if you don't threaten him. Threaten HF. I don't care if you decide to be dumb at the end of the day and lynch me instead but this entire day the wagon needs to be on HF and force him to be on the defensive and play with open cards. | ||
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On June 07 2017 08:59 Blazinghand wrote: Please Vivax, PLEASE it's so simple, it's so INTEGRAL to your claim, and you know it! you could have typed it out in the moment it took you to make that post. Come on man, work with me here, not because you're obligated to, but because it's the right thing to do. I can't MAKE you do anything, but if you're town we're on the same side here buddy. Just gimme this much, ok? It'll help! 1. I don't crumb. 2. I claim cause I found scum. Now can you type out what makes you townread HF this game? | ||
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On June 07 2017 09:23 Blazinghand wrote: I really appreciate that reply and I know it wasn't easy for you. Could you also tell me what time you decided to check HF instead of me? Sorry again about the trouble. And, I know you're discussing things in good faith so I'll do so as well. Why not lynch HF? Well, he's basically sounded tryhard, though yes, I know he could do this as Scum, he also called me a 50/50 early on which is pretty accurate (whereas he could have tried to defend me with a legit townread to look good after I flipped if lynched) given the info he had. Yeah, it's not a solid TR on him. But I like him and he's fun to play with, which influences me as well. Really though, not gonna lie here Vivax I think it's a lot more a case of "jesus christ let's just get rid of this guy" when it comes to you. Up until about an hour ago I figured you were gonna AFK all day, and the way you reacted to the D1 lynch seemed at its core not to come from the mindset of a townie. On top of that, RNG, man, RNG. But also when I think about it, you know, the effort put forth from you was really bad. And if you make it a situation where like, either you or HF is scum, it's hard from the PoV of "HF is generally playing well and engaging people for the last 48 hours" and "Vivax has been really down and having trouble being involved, and seemed particularly upset that we lynched scum" to justify a vote on HF. That being said, I can be convinced. But that's basically my reasoning. Like, even if you flip scum for example I don't think that absolves HF, he's a smooth operator. He's a good player. So are you, of course, but HF knows how to talk to talk. I think he could do this as scum, I even think he could do a double bus as scum and try to pull it off. I don't think it's likely you're both scum, but it's possible, and moreso than with like, a normal player. Then plynch the cop and be open about it but don't pretend that you're an operator and someone calls 911 and instead of asking where the emergency is and what it is, you ask if it's not a prank and what your favourite ice cream flavour is. Cause "did you crumb" and "why are you claiming cop when you find mafia" are questions of that sort. | ||
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On June 07 2017 09:37 Blazinghand wrote: Ah sorry if I came off as overaggressive with those questions. And it's not a policy lynch of "the cop who has a red check on someone" because that's not the policy. In fact, if anything, the policy is to lynch the guy who there's a redcheck on. What's happening right now is a strong push against the policy, because of the unique circumstances. You didn't come off as overaggressive you just come off as trying to generate irrelevant drivel as proven by your opinion not being affected by those questions at all. Cause the answer to those questions is proven 100% irrelevant to you considering this followup. You and HF are 100% mafia. | ||
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On June 07 2017 08:47 Blazinghand wrote: Glad to see you're feeling better, Vivax. If you could possibly spare a moment for me, it would help convince me to potentially vote HF over you. You see, I'm eager to understand the events that lead up to this post: *snipped quotes* Could you tell me when you made the decision to check HF, and how you crumbed it? Also tell me a bit about the rationale you had for claiming cop today. Thanks man, hope you're feeling better, and I really appreciate you coming back to the thread. It's the right thing to do. *Vivax answers questions* On June 07 2017 09:23 Blazinghand wrote: Really though, not gonna lie here Vivax I think it's a lot more a case of "jesus christ let's just get rid of this guy" when it comes to you. Up until about an hour ago I figured you were gonna AFK all day, and the way you reacted to the D1 lynch seemed at its core not to come from the mindset of a townie. On top of that, RNG, man, RNG. But also when I think about it, you know, the effort put forth from you was really bad. And if you make it a situation where like, either you or HF is scum, it's hard from the PoV of "HF is generally playing well and engaging people for the last 48 hours" and "Vivax has been really down and having trouble being involved, and seemed particularly upset that we lynched scum" to justify a vote on HF. That being said, I can be convinced. But that's basically my reasoning. Like, even if you flip scum for example I don't think that absolves HF, he's a smooth operator. He's a good player. So are you, of course, but HF knows how to talk to talk. I think he could do this as scum, I even think he could do a double bus as scum and try to pull it off. I don't think it's likely you're both scum, but it's possible, and moreso than with like, a normal player. So BH asks me irrelevant questions as if they would help him evaluate my alignment. I answer said questions, and as answer I get that he has decided to call me scum beforehand for all the reasons stated here where I make his drivel small cause it really doesn't matter. It's just a bunch of lazy reasons hidden behind a lot of rhetorical fluff. Conclusion: BH asks pointless questions that don't affect his opinion on my alignment at all, and the only reason he asks them is to be looking like he's doing something, unless he can prove that me crumbing or not and the reason for claiming or not changed anything in the bolded. Hint: It doesn't and wouldn't even if anyone was town, but if you were town you wouldn't care about crumbs or reasons for claiming, you would just be convinced I'm mafia going for a trade and that's it. | ||
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What for example would have been the answer that would have made you throw away all your reasons for scumreading me? Is there such a thing? If not, you are mafia. If there is, you will not have any trouble answering this question. | ||
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On June 07 2017 15:33 Grackaroni wrote: If he is mafia this is a real fail play. This would be a fail play either way. But since it's me or HF dying 100 % time of the time it's also a win/win for me cause I remembered why I lost interest into this game after the brief comeback. | ||
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BH coasting and acting and masturbating to his own roleplay but doing nothing to win the game, for which I obviously think he is mafia. Grack posting gibberish and getting into a shitfight with ritoky that looks blown out of proportion from both of them and just posting semi helpful posts. LS and btdt being the MVPs of this game although one never knows how to get properly TR as town and the other thinks he's bad once he gets a bit of pressure. | ||
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On June 07 2017 15:44 Holyflare wrote: I also rescind. Die mother fucker  You got BAITED SO HARD. Well if you aren't blue you are mafia 100% of the time. Enjoy living for one or two more days before you get lynched anyway like last game where no one even spelled out a single reason for voting you and did it anyway and you flipped mafia. | ||
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On June 07 2017 16:14 Holyflare wrote: You forfeit your right to be town when you did this. I don't care to lynch anyone else. You haven't even reevaluated anything since you rescinded. I thought you might be town possibly initially (which i referenced a few times) but now you blatantly wanted to out blues instead. You weren't going to rescind unless a blue claimed. Die. I actually made it clear that there are no other blues besides TW: So that's the most pro town thing I did today as nobody can ever fakeclaim anything this game. You're just lucky that town doesn't take the free chance to lynch scumflare. What is this going to be? Your sixth scum game in a row or something? | ||
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On June 07 2017 16:19 Holyflare wrote: ????? AND THEN YOU RESCINDED AND CALLED ME TOWN FOR CLAIMING BLUE LOL LOL LOL That was the only condition under which I would rescind yes. Since now you admitted to not being blue, I can safely conclude that TW is the only blue in this game. No more fakeclaimerinos for you this game. And the dramatic capslock doesn't suit you. | ||
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Well when either of you flips mafia that's going to put things into perspective. Right now you are able to smack talk. | ||
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