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On June 06 2017 17:25 Holyflare wrote:I don't think grack's push is that great and I don't think ritoky's is either
Actually grack's push has merit. It's not totally awful.
But I think it's misguided for now. We're lynching vivax.
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Btw
Morning. I'm cop and redchecked HF (in spite of his BS vet claim at the end of the night).
This is how you know vivax is bull shit. He wasn't even awake when the claim was out.
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This game could be really really fun if vivax turns out to be the real cop who green checked bh and is making a logic leap to calling me mafia because that means Tumblewood is mafia.
That's the dream.
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Have you even read anything? It's clearly fake, he slips up in his own post.
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The fact that he's implying he checked me despite knowing that I claimed vet when he wasn't even around to see me claim vet.
He's retroactively fitting in something that can't possibly be true to look like he made a call to still check me.
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Like it's impossible to be in spite of if you don't know it's happening. He was in bed, he didn't know i claimed therefore it's not in spite of my claim because that scenario is impossible.
He would have had to submit his check before he went to bed, before my claim. And thus his post is bull shit.
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Vivax is salty because we didn't want to lynch the doctor and that we had no one else to lynch so we lynched mafia. He's saying we had no points but then says onegu had actual arguments. So we sheeped actual arguments onto a player and that player was mafia and vivax is mad because of that?
You're dumb if you don't see right through this.
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And he's already stated "at the end of the day you'll lynch someone else" because he's already set up to rescind his claim. If he continues this for more than half a cycle then absolutely hammer him.
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I think he should be lynched and I don't care what he is. Based on his play yesterday only picking on inactives and lower down people and his demotivation after lynching mafia and fake claiming I'm very inclined to call him mafia.
The only thing giving me pause is the ridiculous amount of ignoring that's going on to this claim. Grack et al basically ignored it and nobody has done their favourite thing of instantly putting votes on me. Which makes me pause because they would know vivax was fake claiming to lynch a town and stay away from it.
So evidence based mafia, gut read from reactions fake claiming town.
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Why not just vote one of us?
What's his town motivation to lie?
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Just believe PB. Believe.
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Where have you all gone? We absolutely lynch the fake claiming vivax. Get back.
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On June 07 2017 03:06 Prison Break wrote: sorry about the long posts btw :/
I should use bulletpoints, spoilers etc. more
You should press the quote button on the posts you want to quote because it's hard to decipher between what you write and what's a quote.
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On June 07 2017 03:08 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +honestly if we lynch vivax at this point and he flips cop are we even in a terrible spot? we lynch HF tomorrow which means we have 2 scum in 3 lynches, that seems pretty good for a worst case scenario
best case scenario is vivax is scum which is obv good, and lynching HF is bad because odds are vivax was going to be lynched at some point anyway
If he flips cop, we don't have a cop. Next kill would then most likely be Tumblewood (if he's indeed doc) because doc would save the cop. If all those claims are real, ofc. If HF flips green, we can lynch a scum tomorrow. Which is super fine. We don't lose the cop. I just don't understand how a sane person can prefer the un-cc'ed cop lynch over the claimed check lynch. Even if HF isn't scum, we get Vivax. In both cases it's a bit coinflippy but why the hell would you start with the potential cop and not with the potential scum?
Because if you're playing the same game you'd know vivax was bad fake claiming or mafia.
He even says in his post he's going to rescind.
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We absolutely lynch vivax today and there's nothing more to it.
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On June 07 2017 03:17 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2017 03:15 Holyflare wrote:On June 07 2017 03:06 Prison Break wrote: sorry about the long posts btw :/
I should use bulletpoints, spoilers etc. more You should press the quote button on the posts you want to quote because it's hard to decipher between what you write and what's a quote. And he knows that from Generic II. This guy is absolutely scummy.
How on earth is going through all that effort to make your post unreadable scummy? I think you need to take a chill pill on your scum tells.
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On June 07 2017 03:20 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2017 03:17 Holyflare wrote:On June 07 2017 03:08 beentheredonethat wrote:honestly if we lynch vivax at this point and he flips cop are we even in a terrible spot? we lynch HF tomorrow which means we have 2 scum in 3 lynches, that seems pretty good for a worst case scenario
best case scenario is vivax is scum which is obv good, and lynching HF is bad because odds are vivax was going to be lynched at some point anyway
If he flips cop, we don't have a cop. Next kill would then most likely be Tumblewood (if he's indeed doc) because doc would save the cop. If all those claims are real, ofc. If HF flips green, we can lynch a scum tomorrow. Which is super fine. We don't lose the cop. I just don't understand how a sane person can prefer the un-cc'ed cop lynch over the claimed check lynch. Even if HF isn't scum, we get Vivax. In both cases it's a bit coinflippy but why the hell would you start with the potential cop and not with the potential scum? Because if you're playing the same game you'd know vivax was bad fake claiming or mafia. He even says in his post he's going to rescind. Point me to that. Show nested quote +At the end of the day nothing anyone ever said matters again and you will all just lynch another random person again in some attack of herd mentality (which is the prime reason I'm not happy with this game). And don't tell me that lynching fidei wasn't random as hell cause you were all literally just looking for someone else to lynch other than TW except for 1gu who actually had some real arguments. He seems to be all fucked up about the randomness of this game. And I can understand that: looking only at activity (not content), he's active and participating and gets scumread, while low-volume players that didn't contribute too hard to this game get a lot of cred because they yolo'd a lynch onto scum gf. I can super understand his frustration and I don't understand why you call that "bad fake claiming or mafia".
We Lynched Mafia And He Says It's Cos Onegu Made Good Points And Everyone Sheeped Onegu
So why is he mad at all that fidei, the mafia, got lynched based on content. It was 0% random AND UNAVOIDABLE BECAUSE THE MAIN WAGON CLAIMED BLUE.
He makes it out like he's pissed off from an unavoidable situation that he played no part in to help. Then he says at the end of the day after everyone picks a side in the cop battle we'll lynch someone random. Because he is going to rescind and say it's all a joke to make us flail like day 1.
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On June 07 2017 03:26 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2017 03:24 Holyflare wrote:On June 07 2017 03:20 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 07 2017 03:17 Holyflare wrote:On June 07 2017 03:08 beentheredonethat wrote:honestly if we lynch vivax at this point and he flips cop are we even in a terrible spot? we lynch HF tomorrow which means we have 2 scum in 3 lynches, that seems pretty good for a worst case scenario
best case scenario is vivax is scum which is obv good, and lynching HF is bad because odds are vivax was going to be lynched at some point anyway
If he flips cop, we don't have a cop. Next kill would then most likely be Tumblewood (if he's indeed doc) because doc would save the cop. If all those claims are real, ofc. If HF flips green, we can lynch a scum tomorrow. Which is super fine. We don't lose the cop. I just don't understand how a sane person can prefer the un-cc'ed cop lynch over the claimed check lynch. Even if HF isn't scum, we get Vivax. In both cases it's a bit coinflippy but why the hell would you start with the potential cop and not with the potential scum? Because if you're playing the same game you'd know vivax was bad fake claiming or mafia. He even says in his post he's going to rescind. Point me to that. At the end of the day nothing anyone ever said matters again and you will all just lynch another random person again in some attack of herd mentality (which is the prime reason I'm not happy with this game). And don't tell me that lynching fidei wasn't random as hell cause you were all literally just looking for someone else to lynch other than TW except for 1gu who actually had some real arguments. He seems to be all fucked up about the randomness of this game. And I can understand that: looking only at activity (not content), he's active and participating and gets scumread, while low-volume players that didn't contribute too hard to this game get a lot of cred because they yolo'd a lynch onto scum gf. I can super understand his frustration and I don't understand why you call that "bad fake claiming or mafia". We Lynched Mafia And He Says It's Cos Onegu Made Good Points And Everyone Sheeped Onegu So why is he mad at all that fidei, the mafia, got lynched based on content. It was 0% random AND UNAVOIDABLE BECAUSE THE MAIN WAGON CLAIMED BLUE. He makes it out like he's pissed off from an unavoidable situation that he played no part in to help. Then he says at the end of the day after everyone picks a side in the cop battle we'll lynch someone random. Because he is going to rescind and say it's all a joke to make us flail like day 1. I don't think you're making sense. And I think you're trying to talk me into lynching Vivax. I'm not gonna lynch into the un-cc'ed cop because his red-check told me to do so. It's super madness. If he lied, he'll be lynched next day. If not, HF is scum. Supercool.
How does this not make sense to you. You said it makes sense that vivax is frustrated at the randomness. But what reason does he possibly have to be frustrated when he compliments onegu and said he had valid reasons to vote fidei? zero.
Then you say he's frustrated because fidei wasn't talked about but no shit, we didn't have time with Tumblewood claiming doctor. But fidei flipped mafia.
Why is vivax, the guy who doesn't like to play the game as mafia who had a not so bad start to the game, rage quitting when we kill a mafia super early? Because he was doing well, his team likely in a good spot and fidei "randomly" dies.
Bye bye motivation.
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Why does he fake claim today? He sees me calling him definitely mafia and would be lynched, he knows I'll fight a shit tonne and either you guys decide not to lynch the claims (dumb) and lives more cycles or i die and he's made a successful trade of taking out the biggest town voice.
If he rescinds it later then he has stalled conversation to just us two for a whole cycle. Perfect.
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