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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 19:57 GMT
#252
On May 11 2017 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 23:02 Tumblewood wrote:
+ I think hf was kinda looking for an excuse to blow up at the grack post, because a player trying to make sense of the game would think, "this doesn't make sense, I didn't say that," and try to find out why instead of jumping to the (wrong) conclusion that grack is scum. and then if you thought for another two seconds you'd see it was a joke


This is quite blatantly a jab at me trying to throw shade in my direction without actually reaching the conclusion he's blatantly saying.

If I'm "looking for an excuse to blow up" then by definition he thinks I'm mafia because why would I need an excuse as town to do anything?

But then I have no follow up to that post I made which follows the other conclusion he wrote that I followed it and saw it was a joke.

The entirety of this post is calling me mafia for doing what he thinks a towny would do. If he didn't realise I haven't posted any follow up then why is he not pushing it and calling me mafia for blowing up at a troll post? If he knows I haven't said any more then why is this post here?

It is basically drivel that has no conviction and with no follow up from himself is baaaaad.

What he's saying is that as town you never would have made the post in the first place. I think Rayn called out that post too after you made it.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 20:00 GMT
#255
On May 11 2017 04:55 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 04:54 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 11 2017 04:50 Vivax wrote:
On May 11 2017 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:
Vivax how caught up are you? I want to talk to you about some stuff.


Eh I'm looking into grack and tw mostly. HF doesn't seem like mafia, nor do rayn and Palmar at first glance. So I'm mostly not paying attention to the posts they adress at each other.

So much for how caught up I am. Not fully, I'd like to see Grack explain his posts in the rayn convo cause they don't make much sense to me atm.

What would you like to talk about

What bothers you about them?


For starters I wanted to know if by similar posts you meant the quality posts you mentioned earlier or something else cause it just looks like something you put out there that simply isn't true.

I switched the names because Rayn wanted to know what quality contributions I had made and I was trying to show the standard that we were being compared to. (Fuba's filter)

I don't actually think we were making high quality posts, just that other people weren't either.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 20:03 GMT
#258
On May 11 2017 05:00 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 04:57 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 11 2017 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
On May 10 2017 23:02 Tumblewood wrote:
+ I think hf was kinda looking for an excuse to blow up at the grack post, because a player trying to make sense of the game would think, "this doesn't make sense, I didn't say that," and try to find out why instead of jumping to the (wrong) conclusion that grack is scum. and then if you thought for another two seconds you'd see it was a joke


This is quite blatantly a jab at me trying to throw shade in my direction without actually reaching the conclusion he's blatantly saying.

If I'm "looking for an excuse to blow up" then by definition he thinks I'm mafia because why would I need an excuse as town to do anything?

But then I have no follow up to that post I made which follows the other conclusion he wrote that I followed it and saw it was a joke.

The entirety of this post is calling me mafia for doing what he thinks a towny would do. If he didn't realise I haven't posted any follow up then why is he not pushing it and calling me mafia for blowing up at a troll post? If he knows I haven't said any more then why is this post here?

It is basically drivel that has no conviction and with no follow up from himself is baaaaad.

What he's saying is that as town you never would have made the post in the first place. I think Rayn called out that post too after you made it.


That's exactly what I just said. He's calling me mafia but said absolutely nothing about me being mafia or cared to follow it up. I literally dropped that post straight away when I realised. I even made a post about it:

Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 23:06 Holyflare wrote:
On May 10 2017 23:02 Tumblewood wrote:
+ I think hf was kinda looking for an excuse to blow up at the grack post, because a player trying to make sense of the game would think, "this doesn't make sense, I didn't say that," and try to find out why instead of jumping to the (wrong) conclusion that grack is scum. and then if you thought for another two seconds you'd see it was a joke


No I'm egotistical and saw some false bull shit and called it out and then i saw it was just for fun after reading his filter and dropped it. Hence why you've never heard about it again.

Or are you implying I still think he's mafia and didn't look into it? In which case why the fuck are you not calling that into question?


And he's been back since and said nothing! Nothing! You think I'm his mafia read or what?

Probably
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 20:06 GMT
#262
On May 11 2017 05:05 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 05:04 Skynx wrote:
On May 11 2017 05:01 Holyflare wrote:
Skynx see above quote for why.

How do you even make the cut between when Grack is trolling and not.


When i looked in the people's filter and saw that none of those quotes existed.

Grack:

Not voting (10) - Damdred, fuba,Vivax, Tumblewood, Prison Break, Skynx, Grackaroni, Palmar, darthfoley, LightningStrike

Why?

Jesus who cares. You're being very nitpicky.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 20:09 GMT
#264
On May 11 2017 05:06 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 05:00 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 11 2017 04:55 Vivax wrote:
On May 11 2017 04:54 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 11 2017 04:50 Vivax wrote:
On May 11 2017 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:
Vivax how caught up are you? I want to talk to you about some stuff.


Eh I'm looking into grack and tw mostly. HF doesn't seem like mafia, nor do rayn and Palmar at first glance. So I'm mostly not paying attention to the posts they adress at each other.

So much for how caught up I am. Not fully, I'd like to see Grack explain his posts in the rayn convo cause they don't make much sense to me atm.

What would you like to talk about

What bothers you about them?


For starters I wanted to know if by similar posts you meant the quality posts you mentioned earlier or something else cause it just looks like something you put out there that simply isn't true.

I switched the names because Rayn wanted to know what quality contributions I had made and I was trying to show the standard that we were being compared to. (Fuba's filter)

I don't actually think we were making high quality posts, just that other people weren't either.


Okay that explains the stuff about quality posts of which I wasn't sure whether it was a joke.

But this?

Show nested quote +
I don't mean it as an attack. I just found it interesting that you called all of the people town but us and we had kind of a similar response to it.


You say that tumble and fuba had a similar reaction to yours,but fuba and TW didn't react at all to the knowledge that they're not in a town list,at that point, just you. So aside from this being defensive and looking like you're trying to mask your reaction by comparing it to theirs, it's also simply not true.

Tumble asked why Fuba.
I also asked why Fuba.
HF voted Rayn.

Those were the next 3 posts after his list. That's why I said something. You're the one saying things that aren't true.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 20:16 GMT
#272
Yeah I think I'm going to be sheeping Rayn this game.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 20:19 GMT
#276
On May 11 2017 05:16 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 11 2017 05:13 Skynx wrote:
On May 11 2017 04:22 fuba wrote:
Prison Break's stuff on sicklucker seems like the best "case" so far. Gonna vote him.

On May 11 2017 04:25 fuba wrote:
Aside from that I basically have a bunch of weak town reads that I'll keep to myself unless someone super-wants them.


This is quite bad. If he feels like elaborating on reads why not do it? You do not want to progress the game?
Super bad reasoning blaming rest of the eventualities bad to follow a simple reasoning to sheep a 2 post intro (no disrespect PB i like you ).

No it isn't, fuba is even more town after that.

Can you elaborate?

Mafia want to be seen making reads. I think they're a lot less likely to say that they have a few weak reads but that they aren't going to show them.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 20:23 GMT
#278
So either he's town and he has reads and he's withholding them.

He's mafia and he has reads but he isn't interested in picking up any cred from showing them.

Or he's mafia and he has no reads but thought it would be a good idea to claim that he has reads and not elaborate on them.

#1 seems by far the most likely to me.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 20:24 GMT
#280
On May 11 2017 05:22 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 05:19 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 11 2017 05:16 Skynx wrote:
On May 11 2017 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 11 2017 05:13 Skynx wrote:
On May 11 2017 04:22 fuba wrote:
Prison Break's stuff on sicklucker seems like the best "case" so far. Gonna vote him.

On May 11 2017 04:25 fuba wrote:
Aside from that I basically have a bunch of weak town reads that I'll keep to myself unless someone super-wants them.


This is quite bad. If he feels like elaborating on reads why not do it? You do not want to progress the game?
Super bad reasoning blaming rest of the eventualities bad to follow a simple reasoning to sheep a 2 post intro (no disrespect PB i like you ).

No it isn't, fuba is even more town after that.

Can you elaborate?

Mafia want to be seen making reads. I think they're a lot less likely to say that they have a few weak reads but that they aren't going to show them.

Then what do you make of this?
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 08:10 Damdred wrote:
Probably right, I missed you and your witty love HF.

I kinda think Rayn is town for a bad reason that has no real basis

No matter what LS says I've seen him do this before as mafia.

I don't think in any case posting reads is bad. If they are bad reads you get pressured and explain them. If they are good reads you form a town circle, simple.

I could see Damdred saying that as mafia. I don't read much into it either way.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 20:30 GMT
#282
I think we should kill Vivax. I'm not seeing any fire in his questioning of me. He seems more confused by what I've posted than actually convinced that I am scum.

I say he's been hooked on the lynch bait.

##Vote: Vivax
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 20:40 GMT
#290
On May 11 2017 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
Tw, vivax, someonelikeslorgrackforwantingtosheepraynbutprobablystillsl

Gggggggs

Kill the Vivax!

Then if he flips scum we can kill Palmar because free kill.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 20:45 GMT
#292
I guarantee one of Vivax/DF will be scum.

Palmar just likes being an asshole. These two are just trying to hop onto the person burying themselves, and they both did a super weak job of pushing it.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 20:51 GMT
#296
On May 11 2017 05:49 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 05:45 Grackaroni wrote:
I guarantee one of Vivax/DF will be scum.

Palmar just likes being an asshole. These two are just trying to hop onto the person burying themselves, and they both did a super weak job of pushing it.


Without trying to be nitpicky, but if you think you're burying yourself, you should say so. As in, if you think you did scummy shit, then it's worth mentioning what you think that scummy shit was from your own perspective.

It would help explain why you were so defensive earlier at the very least cause when I saw the post I answered with ??? to, I already wanted to go look for a gif of a folding chair collapsing.

It's not that I think I've done anything scummy.

I made 1-2 trollish posts at the start of the game and have spent about 5 hours explaining them to people because people don't understand what I was saying.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 20:51 GMT
#297
But I do think I look like an easy target because I have to spend so much time explaining myself from it.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 20:55 GMT
#300
On May 11 2017 05:52 Holyflare wrote:
Why is df mafia? I think he had a legit good call out on you grack. You just dropped everything and ran away and it wasn't fight to the death tunnel grack. Was a good read.


I'll argue if I think the other person is actually arguing to play mafia. Palmar was just deliberately trying to antagonize me, while referring to himself as a troll, so there was no point in me sticking around and getting more pissed off talking to him.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 21:28 GMT
#303
On May 11 2017 06:14 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 05:55 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 11 2017 05:52 Holyflare wrote:
Why is df mafia? I think he had a legit good call out on you grack. You just dropped everything and ran away and it wasn't fight to the death tunnel grack. Was a good read.


I'll argue if I think the other person is actually arguing to play mafia. Palmar was just deliberately trying to antagonize me, while referring to himself as a troll, so there was no point in me sticking around and getting more pissed off talking to him.


Do you even know what DF said? Seems like you're the one throwing crap in someone's direction now. His read was about you and Rayn and how you were basically bending over to Rayn's beck and call instead of being obstinate and fighting. Which is a good correct read.

Rayn asked questions. I answered them. When I saw things I found weird I questioned him. I think Foley's reason is probably better than Vivax's.

Even I'm not crazy enough to provoke Rayn over some silly post I didn't even care about.

Also, DF had also called me out for not arguing with Palmar. So....

You.

Shit.

Thrown.

Direction.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 21:36 GMT
#306
On May 11 2017 06:35 Holyflare wrote:
You say df/vivax are mafia because they jump on you in the rayn/grack fight poorly to bandwagon.

Df has legit reasons that you say are not awful.
I reference those.
You mention about his palmar read.
Ok.

Bai.

You're just making yourself look scummy at this point.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 21:41 GMT
#309
You specifically mention the argument with Palmar. I never walked away from talking to Rayn.
On May 11 2017 05:52 Holyflare wrote:
Why is df mafia? I think he had a legit good call out on you grack. You just dropped everything and ran away and it wasn't fight to the death tunnel grack. Was a good read.


I respond to argument about Palmar.

On May 11 2017 05:55 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 05:52 Holyflare wrote:
Why is df mafia? I think he had a legit good call out on you grack. You just dropped everything and ran away and it wasn't fight to the death tunnel grack. Was a good read.


I'll argue if I think the other person is actually arguing to play mafia. Palmar was just deliberately trying to antagonize me, while referring to himself as a troll, so there was no point in me sticking around and getting more pissed off talking to him.

Then you go "Aha! You don't even know the post! Seems like someone's just flinging shit..."
On May 11 2017 06:14 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 05:55 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 11 2017 05:52 Holyflare wrote:
Why is df mafia? I think he had a legit good call out on you grack. You just dropped everything and ran away and it wasn't fight to the death tunnel grack. Was a good read.


I'll argue if I think the other person is actually arguing to play mafia. Palmar was just deliberately trying to antagonize me, while referring to himself as a troll, so there was no point in me sticking around and getting more pissed off talking to him.


Do you even know what DF said? Seems like you're the one throwing crap in someone's direction now. His read was about you and Rayn and how you were basically bending over to Rayn's beck and call instead of being obstinate and fighting. Which is a good correct read.

Nope. Bullshit.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 21:43 GMT
#310
On May 11 2017 06:37 Holyflare wrote:
And we all know what happens when you think that

You gave a half assed Vivax read saying you don't hate him so he's mafia.

What are your real thoughts on him?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 21:49 GMT
#313
On May 11 2017 06:47 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 06:43 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 11 2017 06:37 Holyflare wrote:
And we all know what happens when you think that

You gave a half assed Vivax read saying you don't hate him so he's mafia.

What are your real thoughts on him?


No i was referring to your meek rayn posts where you were all "yes, sir, anything you want, sir!" and then had no follow up and left the thread without fighting for anything to do with it. I don't care about your crappy palmar interaction in this specific post.

My vivax read is what I said. He's done not much but I didn't hate the little he's done because it's inquisitive but shit inquisitive that isn't driving anything. It makes sense and isn't farfetched so I'm paranoid of him being mafia. It's not much, no.

Good post.

Please quote me having no follow up and leaving the thread.

I can wait.
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