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I've played in a game fairly recently where I hard pushed a lynch through on a townie in LYLO and the entire scum team went quiet because the game was already won for them as long as they didn't make any mistakes.
I suspect that is what is going on with Lightningstrike right now. He really wanted to talk things over and then as soon as the lynch was locked up he didn't put any more effort.
On May 25 2017 05:16 LightningStrike wrote:
Are you fucking serious? No one talked since my last post and now it's EoN what is wrong with town.......
On May 25 2017 05:32 LightningStrike wrote:
What a LYLO man me Grack and PB yet no one was talking all of today. For me it's Grack or PB for Grack it's me or PB for PB it's me or Grack. Whoever is town with me in PB or Grack please work with me to lynch the other person.
On May 25 2017 06:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Wow Grack and PB you guys don't want to talk?
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On May 27 2017 04:18 Prison Break wrote:
there's 2 differences though
- sicklurker specifically didn't tell scum what he was going to do, so leaving him alive would be a gamble
- I have been stubborn this game, so would lightningstrike really assume that I was going to change my mind based on this reasoning?
it's wifom nonetheless
I'm not the one basing my vote on the kill though. Either he thought his chances were better with you & me compared to me & SL or you're mafia.
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Well apparently in an hour and a half one of you two is stealing Holyflare's crown.
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See I was on the right track at one point but then I trusted in Sicklevax.
On May 21 2017 04:47 Grackaroni wrote:
High probability teams:
Palmar/LS
HF/LS
Low probability teams:
Palmar/SL
HF/PB
(HF/PB because the posts where PB dropped his read on HF seemed off to me, but I think PB's posts have been townie outside of that moment.)
Day 2 HF went hard tunnel on Rayn for changing his vote and then hard tunnel on Fuba for something I don't even remember. At the end of the day he changed his read on Fuba and pushed Palmar at a time where it was too likely to kill Palmar for him to do it to his scum buddy, so not Palmar/HF
I agree with SL that his push for HF today over Palmar makes him really unlikely to be paired with HF.
I don't have a good reason to rule out SL/LS but I just don't see that being the team.
Ultimately, I blame PALMAR.
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On May 27 2017 04:07 Prison Break wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2017 04:02 Grackaroni wrote:On May 27 2017 03:58 Prison Break wrote:
I still think it's grack and he hoped I would auto-lynch lightningstrike today
it doesn't help that he's willing to switch to me now, because if he thinks lightningstrike is scum, then it's better to try to convince me to lynch lightningstrike instead, but he gave up pretty quickly on that after I made my intention clear
I want to see gracks flip because I think we won this game. him saying I played brilliant if I was scum but bad if I was town could be a method to manipulate me into unvoting, because no one wants to be called bad on their first game, obviously. but I'm not going to fall for that
I just can't see lightningstrike leaving me alive here, so it's pretty auto from my PoV I just don't like that I'm the only one filtering. I think it would be really clever if as scum you pushed LS and then killed SL and flipped based off that. Since LS already wanted to kill me before it basically ensures that I get lynched. wouldn't it be smarter to leave my options open as scum? the flipflop could also be seen as suspicious. I don't think my play would be good from a scum PoV I read through the filters but nothing in it changed my mind. yes, HF pushed lightningstrike which could be scum vs scum, but that still doesn't explain the sicklurker nightkill over myself, so it is not strong enough for me to think lightningstrike is scum now
This shouldn't be such a mystery really. Lightningstrike hedges:
On May 25 2017 05:32 LightningStrike wrote:
What a LYLO man me Grack and PB yet no one was talking all of today. For me it's Grack or PB for Grack it's me or PB for PB it's me or Grack. Whoever is town with me in PB or Grack please work with me to lynch the other person.
On May 25 2017 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2017 06:55 Prison Break wrote:
LightningStrike, who are you leaning towards being scum?
Grackaroni, what are your thoughts? I honesty am stuck because I will need to reread both you and Grack's filter which I will do tonight. I pretty much need to reevaluate for this LYLO.
You indicate that you want to kill me:
On May 25 2017 13:54 Prison Break wrote:
Yea I agree with lightningstrike which is why I think it has to be grack tbh
Like no way lightning would leave me alive after I stated intent to kill him (and sicklurker stated no intent at all)
I indicate that I want to kill LS:
On May 25 2017 14:48 Grackaroni wrote:
Sorry I'm super addicted to hearthstone.
I'm fairly convinced that it's Lightningstrike.
LS is struck by a revelation from Palmar:
On May 26 2017 02:00 LightningStrike wrote:
After reading both of your filters and some of the NK's filters I starting to be more likely Grack. Palmar who did flip town usually got good Day 1 reads and he thought Grack was scum Day 1 and when he got lynched. Only problem I had with PB was he willing to sheep a scum case on me but now think's it's me because of WIFOM but otherwise his filter looked townie.
Grack filter wasn't as townie per say as there was some weird stuff espcally with him and TW from Day 1ish where TW did say that Grack was 100% town because he seem to trolliy to be scum and Grack did defend TW when some people were questioning about TW's alignment prior to the cop check that came back red for TW. Also Palmar's point about Grack not being as moody per say is another indicator. Me and Grack in my last game with him butted heads and we argued pretty badly although I was a bit of a jerk but still I not seeing it as much here compared to that game.
Grack if you are town I sorry man but if PB is scum he played a pretty good scum game. PB if you are scum well played.
##Vote: Grackaroni
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I don't understand why you're going to put so much effort into VCA on day 1 and then you just trust the night kill to decide LYLO.
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On May 27 2017 05:00 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2017 04:54 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't understand why you're going to put so much effort into VCA on day 1 and then you just trust the night kill to decide LYLO. It wasn't just the night kill that decided LYLO for me but reading other people's filters along with you and PB and actually I went to check your latest scum game and actually feels little bit like this one so if you're town I sorry for this loss.
No not you PB.
If it's any consolation on the off chance you're town, SL is probably saying dumb things in the obs QT. 
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On May 27 2017 05:14 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2017 05:06 Grackaroni wrote:On May 27 2017 05:00 LightningStrike wrote:On May 27 2017 04:54 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't understand why you're going to put so much effort into VCA on day 1 and then you just trust the night kill to decide LYLO. It wasn't just the night kill that decided LYLO for me but reading other people's filters along with you and PB and actually I went to check your latest scum game and actually feels little bit like this one so if you're town I sorry for this loss. No not you PB. If it's any consolation on the off chance you're town, SL is probably saying dumb things in the obs QT. To you or me?
Probably about me.
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On May 27 2017 05:18 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2017 05:16 Grackaroni wrote:On May 27 2017 05:14 LightningStrike wrote:On May 27 2017 05:06 Grackaroni wrote:On May 27 2017 05:00 LightningStrike wrote:On May 27 2017 04:54 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't understand why you're going to put so much effort into VCA on day 1 and then you just trust the night kill to decide LYLO. It wasn't just the night kill that decided LYLO for me but reading other people's filters along with you and PB and actually I went to check your latest scum game and actually feels little bit like this one so if you're town I sorry for this loss. No not you PB. If it's any consolation on the off chance you're town, SL is probably saying dumb things in the obs QT. To you or me? Probably about me. You mean to me?
No I think he probably made a bunch of posts convinced that I killed him for the same reason as PB.
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GUYS QUICK UNVOTE I'M THE DOCTOR
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On May 27 2017 06:12 darthfoley wrote:
Although I've never understood why there's this idea about where a mafia will place his teammates in his read list. Especially when apparently it's the known meta to do it XYZ way
Well they don't want to stick out by offering a town read that they can't defend that other people don't have. And it's rarer for mafia to have an actual read like that on a teammate if other people don't agree with it.
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On May 27 2017 06:18 sicklucker wrote:
its def grack hes just trolling i think. gj pb you played well one bad tunnel is excusable ;p you appeared town and did your job. glad you got it right when I forgot to make a last minute deadline post to kill grack
Btdt already showed the lynch lol.
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oh lol
I assumed HF was the troll.
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Oh nvm he just made the QT right now.
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LS & I actually almost switched to PB on day 4 but neither Palmar or SL wanted him.
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On May 27 2017 06:48 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2017 06:45 Grackaroni wrote:
LS & I actually almost switched to PB on day 4 but neither Palmar or SL wanted him. Rip. Sorry about lynching you in LYLO Grack 
I don't mind I tried to lynch you too. 
GG
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On May 11 2017 17:08 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2017 16:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 11 2017 07:04 Holyflare wrote:
DF says you have no backbone and aren't actually fighting, which is true because you were pointlessly submissive and not actually determining his alignment.
And this is a completely horrible conclusion towards a conversation where Grackaroni explains his thought process to me because when you do that (explaining), you are naturally not attacking the other player since that's not what you are doing at the time. Like how fucking hard that is for people to understand.... Grackaroni, famed for attacking players that call him mafia relentlessly explains his thought process and nothing more despite other people calling that target mafia too. Colour me surprised that you misrepresent the argument again.
I'm on to you HF. You managed to avoid getting in a shit fight with me this game by not bothering to try to lynch me.
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