Liquidmania Qualifier #4 - Page 6

On April 07 2017 19:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
So regarding Tumble:

I explained in the last big post why I scumread him. I didn't put him on my list because I simply quoted SL's list and re-arranged some names, which is really hard to do on mobile. My main point with that list was that I am seeing things different then sicklucker does which is why I did not remove the original quote.

Being called out on not having Tumble on the list brought me to reviewing Tumble once more, seeing if the read I gave him in my list would be correct. So I filter dived and summarized what he actually did, then drew my conclusions from it.

On April 07 2017 19:11 beentheredonethat wrote:
Regarding Koshi's vote on me: I think Koshi is interpreting way too much into my asdasdkjlkajsdlkasjdl thing. It shouldn't, especially in light of everything else I do, justify a vote. Not only am I present in thread, participate in a good way (with maybe flawed results), but also I am very open to discussions and dropping quite hard opinions on people. I tend to be absolutely inactive or super-bussy as scum and I don't think I'm replicating this meta here (which ofc is no 100% proof of me being town).

Also, there was this one game where I was lynched because I claimed doc vs. the actual cop or something (nomination for worst play of 2017 included) and I think if you just skim my low volume filter there you'll find a lot of similarities to my current filter.

I'm not willing to promise I'll improve but I am willing to promise that I'll try to improve. Feels bad to have thread consensus being "btdt is bad town" and it's also not really motivating to put more effort in, but then again it's my own fault.

On April 07 2017 16:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
beentheredonethat where does your read go from town -> scum on Calix?

On April 07 2017 16:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Could you answer with quoting the posts / explaining it fully from the beginning (the read progression) so i don't have to guess what happenings in the game you are talking about.

On April 07 2017 19:19 Koshi wrote:

That is exactly what happened.

On April 07 2017 19:21 beentheredonethat wrote:

Whew. That's a lot. So first of all, Calix went after me pretty harshly, seemingly about "Why are you not voting although you claim it's pushworthy?". I felt like this was a rather constructed thing, given it was the very beginning of D1 and people were still entering the thread.

However, I felt she was going after me relentlessly which per se is not scum indicative but already felt weird - it's like "hey it's D1 and you're going harshly after me for some weird reasons that are just weak". So I started to think she's mafia, trying to get into the thread without getting called out on it (which in this case would've been a success). What really bugged me then though was the drop-off of me, claiming a misunderstanding. Also, the semantics thing that I pointed out early was weird - calling me out on "you say it's pushworthy but don't push", and then claiming "I don't scumread you, I think you're scummy" (i dont get the point of this anyway).

I can see this coming from a town!Calix but I can also see it from a scum!Calix and I tend to weigh towards scum in here.

On April 07 2017 19:22 beentheredonethat wrote:

The bad town thing comes from Calix and also Tumblewood (and someone else? dunno right now)
I've answered the Calix thing.

On April 07 2017 19:21 beentheredonethat wrote:

Whew. That's a lot. So first of all, Calix went after me pretty harshly, seemingly about "Why are you not voting although you claim it's pushworthy?". I felt like this was a rather constructed thing, given it was the very beginning of D1 and people were still entering the thread.

However, I felt she was going after me relentlessly which per se is not scum indicative but already felt weird - it's like "hey it's D1 and you're going harshly after me for some weird reasons that are just weak". So I started to think she's mafia, trying to get into the thread without getting called out on it (which in this case would've been a success). What really bugged me then though was the drop-off of me, claiming a misunderstanding. Also, the semantics thing that I pointed out early was weird - calling me out on "you say it's pushworthy but don't push", and then claiming "I don't scumread you, I think you're scummy" (i dont get the point of this anyway).

I can see this coming from a town!Calix but I can also see it from a scum!Calix and I tend to weigh towards scum in here.

On April 06 2017 20:10 beentheredonethat wrote:

Can you not pretend I "clearly" think it is and consider the sentence that comes right after "I think it's worth a push"?

Can you also think about why I put "I think" in front of "It's worth a push"? Normally, that means that a person wants to imply a certain level of uncertainty about something. We're both town, right? So we want to help each other out by judging each other's thoughts. So you can either pick up what I say and drop your own opinion, or you can go after me because I do not place a vote on the very first maybe pushable thing that I find when the game is three pages and some hours in.

On April 07 2017 20:06 beentheredonethat wrote:

I don't see you as "equals". I see you and rayn as the guys who keep pushing me and sl as the guy who's mad at me and content in voting for me.

Please stop making things up, once more :/

On April 07 2017 20:08 Koshi wrote:

btdt/shape is what worries me atm.