EPTLiquidmania Qualifier #4 - Page 41
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Calix is lynched. it is now N1. | ||
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Give me a sec. | ||
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Like i said before, there were factors involve with tumble being partners with calix. The biggest being tumble's posts regarding calix BTDT posts: On April 06 2017 23:54 Tumblewood wrote: I feel like a broken clock but I've got a nice mindmeld/townread on calix On April 07 2017 00:03 Tumblewood wrote: this is btw one of the worst entrance sequences I have ever seen - btdt calls koshi scum for making a promise - (even though koshi basically promised to be lazy and he does that every game) - btdt says it's worth a push (1 step removed from a promise) - btdt does not push koshi but I will give him the benefit of the doubt on being scum for now On April 07 2017 01:44 Tumblewood wrote: idk where you're getting obv town already but as for the mindmeld: reading calix attack btdt was like watching my own thoughts as I read his posts. our thought processes just lined up really well I feel like I'm just explaining what a mindmeld is but there's not much more to say On April 07 2017 01:48 Tumblewood wrote: well yeah because calix was making good points and it seemed like they went over everyone's heads Even tho I hate his play up to this point, I cant see any real reason for mafia to post these posts. If it was tumble/calix, I dont see how it would advance mafia agenda for scum!tumble to come in later and restate something the thread has already talked unfairly for them and calix herself have moved on. Plus, Koshi was already starting to suspect calix over it so it makes even less sense. The only incentive I see for that would be if Tumble was trying to get it to where he didnt have to attack his partner. But even then I doubt he would do that. From what I remember, he wouldn't feel comfortable doing that automatically that quickly like that. He would be more hesitant. So, even tho I hate his play, I cant see him being a team with Calix logically now. I just dont see Scum!Tumble making those posts on calix's posts in that case. So I got 72 hours (unless mafia is really Really really really really really dumb and shoots me. Which I would laugh) till my probable mislynch to find the missing scummer. So this is what it feels like to actually feel motivated to play town again. | ||
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I kinda started a POE list in my head im going to investigate in the morning. Till then ciao | ||
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Well done Koshi. | ||
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I think it's pretty unlikely rayn or koshi were SvS interactions. Shapelog and btdt are much more likely to have been attempts at SvS "interactions" trying to somewhat distance/put pressure on each other but not effective enough pressure to get lynched. + Show Spoiler + On April 06 2017 22:37 Shapelog wrote: Alright, here where I stand with the conversation between Calix and BTDT. For Calix side, the following makes me think they are more town then scum when I look at this part. I personally think that if Calix was scum, they would of not posted this. It would make sense for Scum!Calix to keep on BTDT as to have a excuse to post, and also because of the what apparently happen with a misunderstanding last game. I do acknowledge that Calix could be backing off here as scum due to a lack of footing on BTDT, but I expect that they would keep on for later credit of being active D1 or even for being on BTDT/Ryan later on if either got into negative light. Moreover, BTDT was more in the mood of keeping the fight going on. Which would allow scum!calix to hide in what would prob. develop into a shitfight with BTDT for getting pass d1. However, I personally do not see anything I really like in calix's points. Some I dont really understand the way calix talks (I.E. calix posts kinda feel a bit circlejerking? If that makes sense, prob doesnt). Also, I do feel as there should be more from calix if they are town and though something about BTDT is scummy. I don't get the stance of "waiting to question you" at all either. But doesn't feel like calix is at the stage of mafia discrediting that is usually happening at this stage of the game hmmm. I will say that I would rank calix a bit above null into the town lean range b/c while I do not understand calix overall stance, I think the clear out looks more town then mafia in my eyes. Flipsid3, I think BTDT also displayed similar actions regarding koshi's meta point and not voting calix. His posts dont feel like he is being pressured in my eyes, and seems more of him trying to figure out calixs point while being mad at calix logic. One could state that he is being pretty agressive in a way, but I just chop it up to him as taking a stance at figuring out the game. Don't really have a issue with him right now. More towny then Calix and working his way up to a town lean I still think the spoilered is a terrible post, especially after her scum flip. Look at my filter for a more thorough explanation as to why it's bad in multiple ways. + Show Spoiler + On April 06 2017 20:35 Calix wrote: "I find you GENERALLY scummy" is what I said. Found the problem. You're misinterpreting that as me specifically finding you scummy in this game when I was trying to say that I find your playstyle scummy. I hope that clears things up. This post also seems like an abrupt/unnatural end to the fight between btdt and Calix from Calix POV. I think it is a cop out to say "well I find your play style generally scummy" because it always gives the person an out to later retract real suspicion by using the excuse (which is kinda what Calix did) On April 06 2017 21:05 Calix wrote: Since we established where the problem was, dumb  I think btdt pushed her back on it, but she was also starting to feel pressure from other people (me/rayn/koshi) and he may have concluded it looked too clean a break off to leave it there if it's SvS so he had to commit to some extra pressure | ||
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