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beentheredonethat
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On April 07 2017 17:18 sicklucker wrote: i like how you dont even list or agree with my town reads. what a politician drawing a line in the sand I simply keeo forgetting people since im on mobile. Rels is not dic in my eyes. Hes null. Tumble is annoying and terribly wrong | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
On April 07 2017 17:10 sicklucker wrote: Sicklucker Tumbleweed calix koshi Darthfoley Rayn shapelog beentheredonethat rels No. beentheredone raynpelikoneet Darthfoley Rels Calix Dumbleweed Koshi shapelog Sicklucker That should be complete, or am I still forgetting someone | ||
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beentheredonethat
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Like, what is Tumble even doing? * starts the game with seven posts which are absolutely irrelevant banter * puts up three posts that have somewhat of game relevance (but then, no follow up, so that renders his questions pointless) * enters thread again, claims a mind meld, drops a townread for that on calix * his mind meld is scumreading me for exactly what Calix said, pretty much following thread sentiment * BUT ends up calling me bad town * one more townread on Shape * claims to have done "meta research" on Rels pregame, votes Rels * more vague stuff ("spidey senses", some more blabla) This is at least my perception of what Tumble is doing so far. My observations. I can see the initial banter coming from town or from at least a certain level of "I don't care how I look". But that does not align with the "I prepared for Rels pregame" thing. Why would you banter if you even took the time and prepared (assuming he's town, of course) for a game? You should be more afraid of being scumread, right? Next action, the famous "Calix is town and btdt is bad town" stuff. Claims to have a mind meld with Calix there but note the difference in the "bad town" timing that he and Calix have. It might very well be that Tumble simply followed thread sentiment, did some drive by posting, and then realized "ohshit, Calix ain't hard scumreading btdt". So he backed off of judging the Calix/btdt interaction, as everyone else did. His townread on Shape is unexplained. But that's not alignment indicative. Nevertheless, it's always easier to say "uh this guy's probably town" as scum then committing to a real push. Now to the interesting stuff. The pregame research on Rels. I have a hard time believeing that. Why? 1. The game was posted rather spontanously. 2. The game filled up really, really fast. 3. Why would you research on someone's meta in such a short period of time when you cannot possibly know whether you're rolling town or scum? 4. Why claim that research? Obviously, to gain town creds. "Uh, damn, I did something and it's useless because the guy is not there. Let's vote him!" The vote on Rels in combination with three(!) townreads and a weird "I prepared" post really let's me think Tumble is mafia, trying to pile on a afk player (i.e. low hanging mislynch fruit for scum). Summary: Tumble has done nothing thus far, he has not contributed any original thoughts, he parked his vote on an AFK person which he claims to have specifically prepared for. I think this is a highly scum-indicative behaviour. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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Koshi, why are you voting me? On April 07 2017 15:54 Koshi wrote: Yeah the extra smashing the keyboard out of frustration letters triggered me. okay | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On April 07 2017 18:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am sorry what did you say? I think btdt is mafia. uhh ok | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On April 07 2017 18:59 beentheredonethat wrote: In the meantime, sicklucker and Koshi parked their votes onto me. Interestingly enough, sicklucker is apparently content with voting me while discussing with everyone else. That's amazingly bad but that's his choice. Koshi, why are you voting me? okay This was not in response to you saying I'm scum On April 07 2017 19:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: but sicklucker is a busser so.... i still dont care.  you kinda sniped me with the scumread post | ||
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beentheredonethat
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beentheredonethat
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On April 07 2017 19:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Nah i am sorry you're just scum btdt. - Forget a guy in your reads list - Make a big case on the said dude just after Mmmm... no. ok lynch me mr. 100% right and see how it goes | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
On April 07 2017 19:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Nah i am sorry you're just scum btdt. - Forget a guy in your reads list - Make a big case on the said dude just after Mmmm... no. seriously whats wrong with you btdt forgets a guy gets called out for it (OH IT'S THE GUY BTDT ALREADY VOTED FOR) btdt re-evaluates the guy and makes a case uhhh what a scummy play | ||
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beentheredonethat
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then: ok let's lynch him then: btdt flips vt then: oh btdt is such a bad town player can we skip all of this somehow | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On April 07 2017 19:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: How about you explain how you got into this situation since your mr 100% guy is 100% not voting for you? hm that's right but I feel like I'm in too deep already. So first of all, I'm not putting in the efforts I should put in. I am lazy at posting - not explaining my thought process properly, nor am I reviewing my reads in a good manner. I do read the thread but I only open a filter here and there and see what to get out of it. So the consequences are that people scumread me because they have no idea about how I reached my conclusions. Which is perfectly fine, I'm more mad at myself right now. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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I explained in the last big post why I scumread him. I didn't put him on my list because I simply quoted SL's list and re-arranged some names, which is really hard to do on mobile. My main point with that list was that I am seeing things different then sicklucker does which is why I did not remove the original quote. Being called out on not having Tumble on the list brought me to reviewing Tumble once more, seeing if the read I gave him in my list would be correct. So I filter dived and summarized what he actually did, then drew my conclusions from it. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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Also, there was this one game where I was lynched because I claimed doc vs. the actual cop or something (nomination for worst play of 2017 included) and I think if you just skim my low volume filter there you'll find a lot of similarities to my current filter. I'm not willing to promise I'll improve but I am willing to promise that I'll try to improve. Feels bad to have thread consensus being "btdt is bad town" and it's also not really motivating to put more effort in, but then again it's my own fault. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On April 07 2017 19:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: wait so you developed the scumread on him there???? oh god... Nah. I thought he's scummy in the very moment he claimed the whole mindmeld thing, especially since he didn't do anything before. Nevertheless, it's day 1, and I just waited for more stuff. More stuff came, didn't improve. You can also check the vote timing if you don't believe me that I had him as scum before. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On April 07 2017 19:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: how did you not have tumble on your list "because" you "re-arranged sl's list" which had tumble on it? I guess I overwrote his name with another one's name to not have to fuck around with BBCode on mobile, then forgot to re-add him to the list. | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
On April 07 2017 19:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let me try to explain. You have a scumread on Tumblewood. You have to have had that from veeery beginning (because your case lays out things he did early on in the game - like his entering post). Now i have a hard time figuring out why someone who HAS to have the thought of "this post is scummy" doesnt (1) say that in the first place, or (2) forgets the person COMPLETELY in his first list. I don't care if you were on phone or what the fuck but your #1 scumread is always priority of discussion, always. You "considered" it #9 priority for some reason... Hm. I can see what you're coming from but in this case you either believe that I was/am absolutely lazy, not explaining my thought process properly, or you scumread me for it. I mean I voted for him 17 hours ago and have not removed my vote ever since. If that does not say "he's a scumread" well what does it then | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On April 07 2017 19:16 Koshi wrote: You are defending the wrong reasons for my vote on you. Well I'm not willing to defend what you already judged. It's more about showing that I'm not scum right now and in the upcoming days, right? | ||
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beentheredonethat
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Whew. That's a lot. So first of all, Calix went after me pretty harshly, seemingly about "Why are you not voting although you claim it's pushworthy?". I felt like this was a rather constructed thing, given it was the very beginning of D1 and people were still entering the thread. However, I felt she was going after me relentlessly which per se is not scum indicative but already felt weird - it's like "hey it's D1 and you're going harshly after me for some weird reasons that are just weak". So I started to think she's mafia, trying to get into the thread without getting called out on it (which in this case would've been a success). What really bugged me then though was the drop-off of me, claiming a misunderstanding. Also, the semantics thing that I pointed out early was weird - calling me out on "you say it's pushworthy but don't push", and then claiming "I don't scumread you, I think you're scummy" (i dont get the point of this anyway). I can see this coming from a town!Calix but I can also see it from a scum!Calix and I tend to weigh towards scum in here. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On April 07 2017 19:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Dude. I don't think anyone is bad town by default. At least i am trying to understand how you get into the conclusions you do. Just try to explain yourself if you're town. First of all could you answer me in what i asked you about your read progression on Calix? It's around p3-4 in my filter. The bad town thing comes from Calix and also Tumblewood (and someone else? dunno right now) I've answered the Calix thing. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On April 07 2017 19:18 Koshi wrote: I am also interested in how you went from Calix meh (after your conversation) to Calix 100% scum (assdsa post) to Calix is perfect null. On April 07 2017 18:41 beentheredonethat wrote: No. beentheredone raynpelikoneet Darthfoley Rels Calix Dumbleweed Koshi shapelog Sicklucker That should be complete, or am I still forgetting someone She's pretty close to my scum pile, isn't she. | ||
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