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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 08 2017 05:08 GMT
#823
I also remember from playing with Calix in that one newbie game when we were scum together that she talked a lot post game about how she would have to do a better job interacting with her partner if she played in a "veteran" game like this. Which also points more towards Shapelog or btdt
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 08 2017 05:08 GMT
#824
On April 08 2017 14:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It is Shapelog or sicklucker.


Why do you consider Btdt to be so unlikely?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 08 2017 05:11 GMT
#826
On April 08 2017 14:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2017 14:08 darthfoley wrote:
On April 08 2017 14:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It is Shapelog or sicklucker.


Why do you consider Btdt to be so unlikely?

because dick move analysis.


not sure i follow
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 08 2017 05:27 GMT
#833
On April 08 2017 14:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In any case darthfoley, Koshi and Rels are 100% clear (fucking surprise).


Did Rels really have the time given time zones + EoD to orchestrate a real town CW with "valid" points if he were scum? He came in pretty close to EoD when the lynch situation was static. Meh either way he is not worth the theorycrafting right now given the other four who were off-Calix wagon
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 08 2017 22:41 GMT
#887
On April 09 2017 07:39 sicklucker wrote:
Tumblewood
raynpelikoneet
koshi
darthfoley
beentheredonethat
Rels
Shapelog


something like that mostly paranoid of rels because hes second no my list as most likely mafia even tho its probably shapelog


I have no idea why you have Tumblewood as your most town over everyone who voted for confirmed mafia
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 08 2017 22:43 GMT
#891
On April 09 2017 07:28 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2017 18:48 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 08 2017 18:36 beentheredonethat wrote:
I think Rels piling on Calix, making it 4v2, clears him. Rels voting Tumble, making it 3-3 with others voting outside of it, would've been scummy as fuck.

Yeah, I double checked. When Rels voted, he made it 4v2 in Calix vs. Tumble, he could've made it 3-3.


if your doing vote logic you also have to look at who was holding out votes. IF someone was obviously going to vote calix for example but I dont think anyone did. also making it 3-3- he still losses the tie break in most mafia rules


I actually agree with sl to the extent that making the vote 3-3 is super risky for scum!Rels considering Calix was AFK and it didn't seem like there was much fluidity of people's opinions at the time. Rayn/Koshi/I were not going to switch off of Calix and I doubt scum!Rels would want to try and argue against a very solid lynch led by the three of us when he could just get town cred off her flip.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 08 2017 22:55 GMT
#895
I think Shapelog is perfectly capable of writing enough shit so that I stop reading his 15 paragraph half way through. Just like the same way I'm a little skeptical of btdt's huge OMGUS blow up yesterday when he wasn't even leading in the vote. After LS burned me in that one cell game i'm a lot less understanding of writing/OMGUSing your way to a town read.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 08 2017 22:57 GMT
#897
I'm gonna reread the last half of his post regarding SL and his reaction to the Calix lynch cuz I found that somewhat compelling on a first read through. But SL sees the Rels vote the same way I do hmph
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 08 2017 23:03 GMT
#898
On April 08 2017 20:05 Rels wrote:
yeah I'm gonna spend most of today playing Battlerite. BTW you should come play at some point it's a fucking good game


Spends all of D1 afk and then pulls the ExO "i'm gonna go play video games" ploy for D2. Forgive me if i'm not convinced like rayn that Rels is town.

Hasn't said anything about who he thinks is mafia tbh, just that he's town reading me, koshi, rayn and sl. No idea where his head is at right now
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 08 2017 23:23 GMT
#902
On April 09 2017 08:20 Shapelog wrote:
I actually once wrote 12 pages in like 6 hours before.

I.E. Writing is easy for me when I actually want to write. Grammar is good if I get time to edit my posts


i have a 15-20 pager due on monday at 10am and i want to kill myself
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 08 2017 23:37 GMT
#905
On April 09 2017 08:27 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2017 08:23 darthfoley wrote:
On April 09 2017 08:20 Shapelog wrote:
I actually once wrote 12 pages in like 6 hours before.

I.E. Writing is easy for me when I actually want to write. Grammar is good if I get time to edit my posts


i have a 15-20 pager due on monday at 10am and i want to kill myself

What topic?

Also (I learned how to due to my battle with my written disgraphia) to improve the rate you write, try writing more and more in shorter times. This will lead to you learning how to masterfully get all the points across and your paragraphs being fully developed. A lot of time when I read other people papers, they are very bland and usually lacking details (even on a college level) needed or have very odd organization/layout.

In other news, I didnt realize SL had a 7 page filter lol.


+ Show Spoiler +
I got to choose. But i'm writing on Americans' paradoxical public opinion relationship with science, specifically regarding acceptance of Darwinian evolution between political parties and how the reception of evolution in the US is counter intuitive once you realize that GOP ideology aligns quite well with Darwinian thought.


Certainly an intersesting topic, but just a bitch to write. It's for my environmental history class, but i'm a government major so i had to pull it back into politics somehow.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 09 2017 01:32 GMT
#922
Let's gooooo
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 09 2017 02:04 GMT
#932
##vote: shapelog
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 09 2017 02:23 GMT
#935
On April 09 2017 11:17 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2017 10:32 darthfoley wrote:
Let's gooooo

Also u going to answer me or not?


What was the question?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 09 2017 15:02 GMT
#942
On April 09 2017 22:53 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2017 11:23 darthfoley wrote:
On April 09 2017 11:17 Shapelog wrote:
On April 09 2017 10:32 darthfoley wrote:
Let's gooooo

Also u going to answer me or not?


What was the question?

Show nested quote +
On April 09 2017 09:16 Shapelog wrote:
Also what do you think about the SL part of the Rels post?

That i made.


Show nested quote +
On April 09 2017 18:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
Hi. voting shape seems to be the obvious thing. Worth a try but I am paranoid over Shape being town. There are some things in his filter that feel a lot like it and people might be tunneled.

We're down to one scum, so we have 7 town votes and 1 scum votes. That means that the scum vote isn't that relevant anymore.

I think Tumble might get too easy town credit. Yes I know that I give him town credit for the Calix/Tumble is unlikely stuff but it's not a full clear. Same goes for Rels, someone said that it would've been a big risk for scum!Rels to make the wagon 3-3 with a AFK Calix.

but then again, a Rels/Calix scumteam feels weird given the level of afk'ness that both have/had.

My main pain points on Shape are hedging and committing to the wrong wagon. But: he could've voted with Tumbe/Sicklucker as there was (imho) no way more people would pile on TW. I wasn't in thread and thread wasn't interested in Tumble.

Maybe it's just town paranoia. My top townreads do vote for shape. So while I'm still paranoid, it's okay I guess.

##vote Shapelog

[image loading]

Seriously tho,

Where are you actually with tumble and Rels? This post tells me nothing bc ironically ur wishy washing in it.
Why is the afk scum team weird when you dont know the factors of it?


I think your reasoning kind of lines up with what SL and I have already pointed out. Which idk how to feel about. I get what you're saying but you could just be trying to wiggle out.

On the other hand, the fact that everyone is voting on you requires 100% of the town to be correct which usually never happens, even if there's only 1 scum left. Plus everyone keeps talking about how simple the game is as an excuse to not play. Maybe it is really that simple.

Is Rels your biggest scum read now?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 09 2017 17:16 GMT
#945
Let's do it

##unvote
##vote Beentheredonethat
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 09 2017 17:18 GMT
#946
I, too, really don't like his last post
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 09 2017 17:22 GMT
#949
On April 10 2017 02:18 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2017 02:16 darthfoley wrote:
Let's do it

##unvote
##vote Beentheredonethat

What ever happen to this?
Show nested quote +
I think your reasoning kind of lines up with what SL and I have already pointed out. Which idk how to feel about. I get what you're saying but you could just be trying to wiggle out.


Nothing happened to it. It's still a possibility but I actually like the content of your posts recently. They seem a lot more focused than your posts were earlier and I don't like how everyone has fucked off today as soon as 6 votes were placed on you
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 09 2017 17:24 GMT
#950
Like even the people who are skeptical that Shapelog is mafia aren't putting in any work to figure it out. I understand the laziness involved with having like 3 mislynches available or something but btdt comes in an sort of null reads his 3 scum reads and then doesn't do any more digging
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 09 2017 17:28 GMT
#951
On April 09 2017 18:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
Hi. voting shape seems to be the obvious thing. Worth a try but I am paranoid over Shape being town. There are some things in his filter that feel a lot like it and people might be tunneled.

We're down to one scum, so we have 7 town votes and 1 scum votes. That means that the scum vote isn't that relevant anymore.

I think Tumble might get too easy town credit. Yes I know that I give him town credit for the Calix/Tumble is unlikely stuff but it's not a full clear. Same goes for Rels, someone said that it would've been a big risk for scum!Rels to make the wagon 3-3 with a AFK Calix.

but then again, a Rels/Calix scumteam feels weird given the level of afk'ness that both have/had.

My main pain points on Shape are hedging and committing to the wrong wagon. But: he could've voted with Tumbe/Sicklucker as there was (imho) no way more people would pile on TW. I wasn't in thread and thread wasn't interested in Tumble.

Maybe it's just town paranoia. My top townreads do vote for shape. So while I'm still paranoid, it's okay I guess.

##vote Shapelog


Why do you need to write an essay just to not change who you're voting for?

but then again, a Rels/Calix scumteam feels weird given the level of afk'ness that both have/had.


Why does that feel "weird?" What does "weird" even mean in this context?
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