EPTKoshi I want to feel like a newb again.
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On April 07 2017 01:22 Koshi wrote: He is. There is no way mafia does it like that. And you all misjudge Calix her play. She saw something to whine about and did it, to fake activity and not to solve this game. That she was capable to notice bad posts to pressure is good for her. Doesnt matter game is still young. You'll all figure it out. Well lets move on from this then (since this is a stalemate) Outside of Calix world, how do you feel about the rest of the pot. | ||
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Ik u talked about SL/Ryan some before as well.. | ||
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On April 07 2017 01:34 Koshi wrote: If I have a real opinion on those I will let you know. Alrighty. I'm eating lunch and about to head to class so ciao till like 2:30 | ||
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I forgot classes were cancelled today >_> I been here since 8:30 am. At least I worked on my crap while I was waiting. well yeah because calix was making good points and it seemed like they went over everyone's heads I was just pointing out how it didnt make sense in my mind since you both said similar things and koshi read you as town and such. Actually reading Tumblewood's filter: there is NO (absolutely no!) contribution to the game. Just banter. Besides that easily to be made up post. ##vote Tumblewood do something To be devils advocate here, Neither has Darth or Rels. I admit, he is here (or hereish) and should be posting more stuff that is interesting. But also, Its not even halfway through the first day cycle. Hence why I haven't gimped him for it. | ||
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On April 07 2017 02:09 darthfoley wrote: I find this sentence comical. Can anyone who isn't Calix explain wtf the difference is between these two sentences, because to me it just looks like useless hedging that sounds scum motivated. The splitting of semantic hairs is not something I really associate with town!calix. I think btdt is more town from the argument because he seemed more logical/focused/level headed. Koshi's intro reminds me a bit of his standoffish play style he used last game as scum, and I like btdt's questioning of him so far My time is a bit limited but I'm catching up ASAP I read it as Generally I find you scummy" In games I play with you, I find your playstyle to be scummy or I have a history of calling you scum. I dunno how true that is for calix/BTDT. Agree with BTDT point. Koshi is a bit hit or miss rn. I honestly dont like him, and have a hard time following his logic. His points (to me) make no logical sense or lack the details to really fully understand. Plus the confirm tumble thing is still odd in my eyes. Plus the behavior changes. On April 07 2017 02:12 beentheredonethat wrote: well "doing something" at the current state of affairs would mean just to interact with people and drop opinions, right? darth and rels - yeah. We're not in policy range of things yet so... yeah. [...] Calix -- hmm the whole Calix Koshi Me thing and then with tumbleweed reiterating on it and shape commenting on it - it's of course easy to form a town circle of five but I don't dare to do that. oh and still, can someone explain what this "sucking up to rayn" thing means Touchee Koshi said that Calix was sucking up to ryan due to what she said to ryan about SL. On April 07 2017 02:14 darthfoley wrote: Also don't like Shapelog because i feel like he's been referreeing the thread so far and has been rather hesistant to step into actually giving any reads of his own. Everything just reads like a defense of people... countering other peolples point... on other people Um I have given reads out? | ||
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On April 07 2017 02:16 darthfoley wrote: Shapelog is question master without any reads/conclusions/thoughts of his own I can troll if you rather have that  Oh boy I do miss it  | ||
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I fucking remember my first game as mafia. Wrote like 25% of the game filter through shitposts and other stuff. | ||
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On April 07 2017 02:19 darthfoley wrote: The thing is I still don't see how probing rayn is "sucking up" I can understand the point if Koshi was talking about it from the "faking activity" point he brought up later, but the progression from "she was sucking up" to "she was faking activity" doesn't really make sense to me I just don't understand it as a whole. Tbh, its something every hour or so from him so at this rate. On April 07 2017 02:20 darthfoley wrote: Ooohhh if Calix meant generally as in she finds btdt scummy in many games then I feel like an idiot. I thought she was just talking about this game "generally" That's just what I take it as. I mean, I doubt she would use "generally" in that term you had for like a hour of gameplay. | ||
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On April 07 2017 02:24 darthfoley wrote: Yea it was a newbie game with me iirc. Still salty about that one The game that started the bussing addiction. | ||
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On April 07 2017 03:44 Tumblewood wrote: nah I'm pretty content with having three reads that I think are right with as little as has happened so far and what ever happened to that push on koshi A good chuck has actually happen. Calix vs. BTDT page, Koshi points, Ryan vs. SL, etc. I wouldnt mind koshi vote rn tbh. When i read up, ryan has a town read with him, so I debate with him shortly. So I stand corrected in that Shape did post some "reads" but I find this post to be so confusing for such a relatively simple read explanation. I also think it's odd that Shape says btdt is more towny than Calix but has spent a considerable amount of thread capital defending Calix imo. It just feels off. The time I lost to scum!Shapelog was when he did posts like this that were super convoluted and I lost motivation to read them after 3 sentences. That's kinda how I feel so far with his play. A few town reads, meh scum reads (including a couple "this is weird, this is off" type sentences @ thanks ritoky for the guidance) and posts like this that are kind of semi-serious but maybe not really that seem like ez hedging opportunities later on to say "well that was just a joke" or "that was actually serious!" I'm normally hedging early on as either alignment and then either lose people to scum read as mafia, or I get more and refined as town on people I sus. I've done that since the beginning days and still do lol. Usually also, my alignment gets pretty clear when the games go on IMO. If you know what to look for in my play. I'm pretty sure you seen both shapes. Talked more bout calix because others agreed with BTDT. And fyi, That was a joke with the cocky thing On April 07 2017 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because he said smart thingd about Calix. I am not sure if it makes her mafia though. Doesnt change the fact its smart and very Koshi'esque. You can be town too. This game is gonna be pretty easy.  Go on, Because I (and others) dont see it. | ||
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On April 07 2017 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hey Rels not many town slots left. What did you roll? ^^ I won't bite you rels! Us frenchies have to stick together! | ||
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How many games have darth played with me. hmmm, let me check. | ||
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3, 2 town and one mafia. Eh kinda what I was and wasnt looking for so I shall let it pass. I was going to see if he know knows my town style (which on paper he should) but those two games (mini and millionare) either one of us left the game pretty early. So he prob doesnt really remember it. So my point in my head doesn't stand. anyways, On April 07 2017 04:10 darthfoley wrote: Also think Calix has a surprisingly long filter for no real reads Really? Let me read through it quickly. | ||
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Not enough to flip my view on her though, especially with the time. | ||
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Tbh his play rn has been characterize by the SL conversation (which I really didn't like either of them in it, but did perhaps figured out what SL was aiming for regarding points). I want to see his logic on these reads to get a good footing on him. More then "koshi parts are smart". So when you do get back ryan (iirc you said u had to go), can you please explain any of the reads in a bit of detail? | ||
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On April 07 2017 05:22 beentheredonethat wrote: Shape, I get the impression that you're not really calling out anyone. You're mediating a lot, darthfoley calls it refereeing. Why is that? Eh, I suppose its just the way I play mafia, and in general, approach life. I normally try to see things from different angles, which leads to me start asking questions, looking at other sides, etc. Tbh, mafia is easy for me to theroycraft and scum hunt as obs because I am not in the game, and don't have to worry about making posts and other stuff to keep up or push conversation through. Its gotten me into trouble as either alignment in the past and prob. my downfall for early game play. Late game, Imo i get more zoned in, for better or worse. I'm also a psych. major (this spring I get my master's finally) as well if that shines more light onto my thinking. | ||
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On April 07 2017 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi said it already I cant say it any clearer. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Y8GeK0G.gif) | ||
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I might actually be understanding now. | ||
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It actually took Darth's comment about the reads for me to figure out the majority of koshi's stance/points. I see what he means with the suck up thing, but i fully agree still with it. The other stuff does make some sense now looking at it. Does actually help clear up koshi's mindset rn for me over calix. | ||
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