[M][N] Generic Mini Mafia - Page 4

On March 19 2017 06:24 Tumblewood wrote:
hi I'm back and I don't have time to catch up by deadline. it looks like everyone's on malongo by now and while I'd like to lynch someone worse I'm not crazy about him
someone who can explain any major new developments to me would be appreciated otherwise I will skim

On March 20 2017 02:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos is also mafia because not wanting to lynch me despite wanting to lynch me. If he was town and actually thought i was mafia he would have tried to actually lynch me. So there is that too.

Nothing new to say about Damdred.

On March 20 2017 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Instead of looking into the people who compleined about the votes on Malongo (when noone was doing anything) you should try to look at the people who call me scum for not even voting for Malongo and because i somehow "pushed Malongo to be lynched" (aka Xatalos).

That's some fucking twisted shit right there. Mafia 101 of "how to call someone scum without any reasons at all".

On March 20 2017 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And i am having fun with that, because people cannot be convinced with any sort of logic anymore in this game so i don't really see what else should i be happy about when playing mafia anymore.

On March 20 2017 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He is town. I mean like sure he made a "contradiction" but people don't make contradictions they surely notice (if mafia) they are being called out for it (see for example Tumblewood and his "vets cannot be read" -> "i have a at least a somewhat read on all vets now").

Mafia makes contradictions they don't even realize are one (see Damdred).

On March 20 2017 03:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's like your whole play at the EOD is basically "rayn and Tumble are mafia whatever Malongo's alignment is".

On March 20 2017 03:30 darthfoley wrote:
PSA that I hate Rels. That is all.

Anyways, I must say that I've been thoroughly unimpressed by Koshi's effort levels so far. Like I understand D1 being a crap shoot and all, but the D1 play looks super passive. Even know there are plenty of arguments going on between Xata, Calix, rayn, Damdred, Eden etc but Koshi only pops in with a few one liners.

Would like to hear what he makes of all of this stuff

On March 20 2017 03:37 darthfoley wrote:


I still think Eden's 5-3 point was decent about Malongo. In retrospect he could do that as mafia so admittedly it's NAI, but I find the VCA component of it cool and something I hadn't thought about before

Sorry for thinking that tumblewood's paranoia and generally EoD play isnt purely mafia indicative when I've done the same thing myself? Look back at the game where NeverUnlucky was lynched D1 as mafia and I was hard defending him as town for similar reasons. Made me look terrible after the fact, but I was still waffly and town

On March 20 2017 04:14 ritoky wrote:


? I mean we must play a different game. Just because someone orients the game as black vs white, doesn't mean the game is actually black vs white. You're implying that because someone is tunneling, the tunneler and the tunneled must be opposite alignments. More often than not they aren't. Further, being right is also not a requirement for being town, there exists this thing and it is called a donkey, please ask Koshi about it he is abundantly familiar.

Once you get away from the realm of right vs wrong and black vs white, and stop trying to render the game into a state of binary decision making, you arrive at a place where you can judge peoples' process. Process and intent are vastly more important than people's actual conclusions much of the time, and that is what matters. I see the town process in rayn when he rails on 1 point for hours and tries to drive discussion back to his point that he views as unimpeachably scummy, I see his process when he tries to scum check me to get a reaction. These are town processes for him, which make his posts good. You look at damdred and, he unprompted, makes a poignant observation and asks an extremely pointed question at tumble and then pushes when the answer is unsatisfactory. Once again I see the process, the desire for more information and to drive the game forward in the direction he thinks is right.

You have to remember that you've been playing this game for 36 hours and have 50 pages, I have been playing for like 10 and have 5 pages, so my opinions have not had the cultivating of others' opinions. However, my categories are fine. Because people making bad posts are a good place to begin looking for me. I used to be quite skilled at reading people who post bad shit, so I likely still am. Some of the terrible posters will likely become my top town reads who I will never vote on soon.

On March 20 2017 04:45 disformation wrote:
okay. where was I.
tumblewood
strongly suspicious of rayn. kinda waffles on/off that wagon a lot near deadline.
spoiler cause long:
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tbh. after rereading it, it kinda makes no sense to me as either alignment.
Only explanation for the mal town lean was:

Though. I can kinda understand downgrading mal to a plynch after mal coming back to do nothing.

Like town could have been waffly at deadline. TW also could be scum being worried to look bad for being on the wrong wagon. which could explain the:

from:

as in being overly conscious about how he looks to the thread.

Not impossible to come from town, but I am leaning scum on that.