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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 25 2017 21:41 GMT
#2873
On March 26 2017 06:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Doesn't matter, i have now 3 days to solve the game.


Be sure to thoroughly enjoy the conftown status
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 25 2017 21:44 GMT
#2877
Hmm... The optimal moves for scum would have been, I think, to block rayn with RB and kill DF with GF. That way the kill should go through regardless and no check can be reported back, and rayn can't block the RB..? Well, not sure if they thought it through (looking at the previous action choices), but that's the optimal play I suppose.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 25 2017 21:45 GMT
#2881
Well, rayn could have blocked the RB, but it wouldn't matter in that case since the GF would still kill DF and stop him from actually performing his action (reporting the check).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 25 2017 21:47 GMT
#2882
Well I guess Koshi isn't completely in the clear... DF made okay points. "The switch" had bothered me before as well.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 25 2017 21:48 GMT
#2884
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Where do you find these images ROFL

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"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 25 2017 21:52 GMT
#2887
On March 26 2017 06:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2017 06:47 Xatalos wrote:
Well I guess Koshi isn't completely in the clear... DF made okay points. "The switch" had bothered me before as well.

It's not the switch it's the reasons for it.


Hmm... I did sort of get the feeling that he just latched onto my wagon and justified it somehow afterwards. There's a reasonable scum motive in there - being prepared to bus Eden, but when seeing the chance to get a mislynch before him, jumping onto it with force. I don't think the reasoning he thought up was super bad in itself, just the timing / the way how he went about it.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 26 2017 12:29 GMT
#2900
So rayn, what's your opinion on today's lynch?

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I have a mighty urge to just sheep you, so I hope you're right


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Personally I'd maybe lean towards AMG, but not sure. Should probably try to see which teams within AMG/Koshi/disfo/Tumble make sense. I very highly doubt Damdred is ever scum, for previously mentioned reasons, so the options are limited to those four now I guess.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 26 2017 15:29 GMT
#2921
Voted AMG for the time being.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 04:17 GMT
#2929
I got pretty sick starting yesterday, but I'll try to play some later today.

AMG: all I know is that it has to be in Tumble/Disfo/Koshi in that case. I refuse to believe it's Damdred at this point... He hardly makes sense as scum with Eden. But I have yet to look into what teams would actually make sense among the rest, so I can't even say if you're 100% the best lynch today.

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Mostly waiting for rayn's opinion. I'll probably sheep him today if he has a strong/reason-based stance.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 11:14 GMT
#2940
I'm willing to sheep you, rayn. TBH haven't really played the game today yet, so if you're sure...

How did you come to the conclusion of disfo+Koshi though?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 11:16 GMT
#2941
Well, I guess I can sort of see it. If AMG is town, at least, Koshi has pushed a really scummy agenda every lynch.

And there hasn't been opposition to AMG until now..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 11:19 GMT
#2943
Yeah, everyone kind of piled on AMG. Not the most confidence-raising odds of scum flip..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 11:21 GMT
#2945
DF only really talked about Koshi during last night.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 11:22 GMT
#2947
On March 27 2017 20:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's kinda essential to not lynch mafia now for them, since otherwise i confirm a person in a way or another the next night.


That's true yeah.... Especially if we get the RB.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 11:22 GMT
#2948
Actually, if we get the RB, we might well never lose a townie again.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 11:25 GMT
#2950
On March 27 2017 20:23 AMG wrote:
I think you were kept alive because Koshi was in your blind spot Rayn. DF wasn't having any of it so he died


That or because rayn had to be RB'd anyway (since otherwise he might RB the KP carrier), it was more efficient role-wise to kill DF instead? In any case I guess it's possible he was killed also for his Koshi stuff.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 11:50 GMT
#2962
On March 27 2017 20:40 disformation wrote:
didnt even realize xata was voting koshi.
like xata i get you are sheeping rayn, but rayn hasnt voted yet, so can you explain why koshi over me?


Felt like the better pick. Koshi did jump on me pretty eagerly D2 despite townreading me hard until that "opportunity". In general he's just eagerly went for every possible mislynch when given the chance (Malongo D1, me D2, and possibly AMG today given how everyone piled on AMG earlier - including scum for sure).

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I guess I'll sheep rayn onto you though if he wants to.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 11:53 GMT
#2965
:O
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 13:02 GMT
#2991
On March 27 2017 21:58 Koshi wrote:
Why has Xatalos been jumpy to get off the AMG wagon? I don't understand it from his filter. Why?


Well, I said that I'd sheep rayn today and he insisted on not lynching AMG.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 13:02 GMT
#2994
On March 27 2017 21:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote disformation


Why disfo today though? But I will comply.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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