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On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.
Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.
As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.
Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying.
mal is fairly 50/50 to me.
On one hand I kinda like him coming in being like "your wagons suck, imma make my own wagon with black jack and coke", on the other nothing he really says has a whole lot of substance. Like incredible hard to tell if he is town, really not liking the wagons, or if he is scum not wanting to comment on them.
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On March 17 2017 22:55 Damdred wrote:
Maybe it's kind of meh.
So dis
Damdred
Calix
Xata
Koahi
Dis
Rayn
Deep
This is kinda a town list where I am at right now. Am I wrong on any of these and why?
Hmmm...
i'm townl , deep prolly town, Koshi prolly town, you more likely town than scum
not 100% on rayn yet. his total meta shift is kinda throwing me off. somewhere between null and town lean, as mentioned earlier.
xata makes more sense to come from a town pov, slightly worried that he is overly focused on me, so i want to see what he does later. town lean though.
calix is still a bit weird for me atm. chance of her being town is good enough, that i dont want to lynch her atm though. xD
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note to myself:
DeepBlueSea89 and rayn are apparently easy to summon.
rayn... eh i mean:
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batman!
halp! the penguin has hired a lot of hired muscle and is making it increasingly difficult for us to crack down on his illegal operations. can you give us information about his identity so we can stop the flow of his cash, so he cant hire hired muscle anymore?
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On March 17 2017 22:56 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.
Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.
As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.
Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying. Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 22:51 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.
Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.
As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.
Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying. mal is fairly 50/50 to me. On one hand I kinda like him coming in being like "your wagons suck, imma make my own wagon with black jack and coke", on the other nothing he really says has a whole lot of substance. Like incredible hard to tell if he is town, really not liking the wagons, or if he is scum not wanting to comment on them. Do you have any other reasons to scum-read DF outside of him ignoring your discussion? I would like to see DF/ Malongo get stuck in more but that is about it. On the one hand, deviating from the status quo gets Malongo attention. On the other hand, he's just voting for raynpelikoneet because of his early-game trolling (which reminds him of another game). So he's not risking much there since there's no pressure for him to persuade people to vote in that direction and it doesn't help his stated "don't lynch Damdred/ disformation" goal. It's weak.
Well, it gives df a higher chance at being scum than tw or mal, so yes.
Not sure about the mal stuff, are you saying it is more likely scum than 50/50, or are you agreeing on the 50/50?
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oh well. i think the penguin is one of two persons, but i am not sure which one.
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i think in my brain its kinda like:
df > tw > mal > rels/1eg/eden > rayn
after that it gets a bit blurry as in various town leans / reads.
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On March 17 2017 23:24 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 23:20 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 22:56 Calix wrote:On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.
Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.
As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.
Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying. On March 17 2017 22:51 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.
Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.
As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.
Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying. mal is fairly 50/50 to me. On one hand I kinda like him coming in being like "your wagons suck, imma make my own wagon with black jack and coke", on the other nothing he really says has a whole lot of substance. Like incredible hard to tell if he is town, really not liking the wagons, or if he is scum not wanting to comment on them. Do you have any other reasons to scum-read DF outside of him ignoring your discussion? I would like to see DF/ Malongo get stuck in more but that is about it. On the one hand, deviating from the status quo gets Malongo attention. On the other hand, he's just voting for raynpelikoneet because of his early-game trolling (which reminds him of another game). So he's not risking much there since there's no pressure for him to persuade people to vote in that direction and it doesn't help his stated "don't lynch Damdred/ disformation" goal. It's weak. Well, it gives df a higher chance at being scum than tw or mal, so yes. Not sure about the mal stuff, are you saying it is more likely scum than 50/50, or are you agreeing on the 50/50? Now that I'm not in OMGUSville, I'm not as sure on DF as I was. I was considering whether Malongo's words line up with his actions and concluded no, so the former.
Mh. Well TW didnt comment on a bunch of stuff.
But after DF's mention on Xata's reaction to the setup stuff I was very sure that he would comment on the xata/damdy/me stuff, it is really odd to me that he didn't.
Can kinda see the point on Mal though. Like the result of his posts was him avoiding taking stances, voting on a dead wagon and gtfoing with all options open.
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On March 17 2017 23:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wait disformation. How can Rels be more townie than "somewhere between null and town lean"?
He isnt?
On March 17 2017 23:26 disformation wrote:
i think in my brain its kinda like:
df > tw > mal > rels/1eg/eden > rayn
after that it gets a bit blurry as in various town leans / reads.
left most scum, right least scum.
so df most scum, you least scum.
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mh. wasnt aware that mal used to play here back in the day.
think i'll move him at least below tw.
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@rayn:
why vote damdred over mal or xata, from your post it looks to me like your scum read on at least mal (maybe xata) would be stronger?
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On March 17 2017 23:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 23:47 disformation wrote:
@rayn:
why vote damdred over mal or xata, from your post it looks to me like your scum read on at least mal (maybe xata) would be stronger? It isn't.
hmmm... let me read damdy again.
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hm the damdred thing isnt that easy. like for some reason I remember seeing more posts that I liked. damdy is a good scum player though, so these are probably not outside his scumrange.
Stuffs I liked.
This looked like he was legit unsure about my alignment:
On March 17 2017 09:28 Damdred wrote:
As for my thoughts on disformation in not sure.
I think there is a huge mmicommunication and we are somewhere list in translation. Like the whole argument might be kinda bad because I think he was looking for a real reason I was scum reading xata.
But still doesn't make a lot of sense meh.
But he's sometimes super defensive on town so I just need more time to evaluate him tbh.
You could say he is hedging / keeping his options open, but imo this post is more likely to come from town. Esp. since I think scum would be more eager to vote the counter wagon to himself.
I didn't mind the xata/calix reads:
On March 17 2017 09:59 Damdred wrote:
Xata started as a gut read from his first playful banter. He generally as scum is pretty tense non fluid and kinda lacks much in the way of anything. I felt he was the opposite at the start, he flowed with the game thread was involved and tried to understand players.
I thought he looked town tbh.
Calix is a dick (lovable ) as town and is more free with the town reads. As scum hedges and is more middle of the road. Here really I involved even early trying to ferret out people. I liked it early and liked thebdickishness that was displayed towards koshi trying to get him to play.
Also for the record I think disf probably going to be town. Seems legit confused atvpoints, has time to back pedal and just explain and would get pressure off him but doesn't do it and just moved straight ahead. I still would like some explanation from him but yeahbi don't think scum woulddd play to bring that much attention to himself without trying to be it of him before he leaves. (Sorts bad read by hownibfeel)
and the mal/tw ones here:
On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.
Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.
As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.
Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying.
though koshi/rayn pointed out some weak points in damdred's posting. not entirely sure what to make of it.
i dont think this game it outside of damdred's scum range.
guess the question is whether rayn is right and damdred tried to set me up with that question, or if it was part of the miscommunication that was going on. =/
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On March 18 2017 00:17 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 07:34 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 07:28 Damdred wrote:
What Eden did though is wifom right up his alley, soon kind of ignores it and will wait patiently for him to come back and interact with.
What do you think of it though dis? Scum? Bad town? Obviously you have an opinion who? eden or xata? dont think i have played with eden before. opening is 50/50. tries to give the thread something to work with and gtfos. it is mechanical/setup talk though, so easy to do as scum. xata biting immediately is only something i found after reading his posts like 3 times with a "why could he be scum" mindset. Why are you taking my claim at face value, disfo?
huh? you claim something at the start of the game which might be true or not might be true. i have seen both alignments do that, so 50/50. if you are town you do that in the hope of giving ppl something to talk/discuss about. problem is that its super easy to throw about mechanical/setup stuff as scum. so your opening is basically as nai as it gets?
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On March 18 2017 00:25 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 21:16 disformation wrote:
though i'd like koshi to explain why he switched from damdred to oneg like that. Onegu is always a good place to leave your vote while rereading.
but what made you want to switch off of damdred in the first place?
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On March 18 2017 00:41 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2017 00:28 disformation wrote:On March 18 2017 00:25 Koshi wrote:On March 17 2017 21:16 disformation wrote:
though i'd like koshi to explain why he switched from damdred to oneg like that. Onegu is always a good place to leave your vote while rereading. but what made you want to switch off of damdred in the first place? Sleeping. And wanting to read the game with a "fresh" mind.
Hm. Fair enough. Imo scum is less likely to reevaluate reads like that.
On March 18 2017 00:43 darthfoley wrote:As for Damdred/disformation: atm I think there are better lynch options. I feel like i've played 3 games in which disformation doesn't really have a good day 1 as town, but makes up for it as the game moves on. I'm still quite nervous about Calix's and Damdred's interactions so far. Something just feels off, but I don't have a gotcha! quote to explain it. These posts also blow Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 23:50 Tumblewood wrote:
ALSO disfo v calix is a TvT argument. no way scum!disfo goes into an argument against someone way more widely TR b/c he knows he won't win Show nested quote +On March 18 2017 00:14 Tumblewood wrote:On March 17 2017 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 17 2017 23:50 Tumblewood wrote:
ALSO disfo v calix is a TvT argument. no way scum!disfo goes into an argument against someone way more widely TR b/c he knows he won't win This isn't a good argument. If disformation is scum regardless of how widely townread Calix is he has to go into the argument with him because Calix is calling him mafia. Why wouldn't disformation go into argument with Calix if Calix is mafia and he is town? That would mean that Calix' argument is bs so NOT going into an argument with him makes no sense. this is based off of the assumption that calix is town ( duh, anyone so anal is probably town). also scum can totally ignore the accusation. it wasn't exactly threatening and the omgus defense is mostly a last resort. seeing two people go at it without interacting with the rest of the thread is a tell I will always call 1. Of course scum!disformation would go into an argument with one of the primary people scum reading him. What is he supposed to do? Ignore it and try to indirectly buddy her? This is such a crap reason to town read a veteran player. 2. I get so fucking triggered anytime one of you fuckers uses anal/cursing/emotion to town read someone. It's literally the easiest thing to do over forum mafia. ASK LIGHTNINGSTRIKE THEN ASK ME AND RELS IF IT IS A TOWN TELL
The triggered part make me smile. Less likely to be scum. Lemme unvote.
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On March 18 2017 00:52 darthfoley wrote:
inb4 rels posts four1 hours before the deadline
fixed.
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fuck. got ninjaed by koshi
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On March 18 2017 00:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The only thing i see Xatalos is you saying "disformation was describing I said things I didn't" and i don't know which those things are.
I think he means this:
On March 17 2017 07:25 disformation wrote:
Was expecting something better tbh.
Like something about Eden baiting with setup talk and xata instantly being like "so to make it official: you are either bsing or are one of these blue roles?"
the part in " ". i already explained how it came to that a few times though
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On March 18 2017 00:57 darthfoley wrote:
Also throwing out a plea for Eden to come do something
this would be nice indeed.
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kinda confused myself now. cause i made a pretty big/nice post trying to explain all that stuff earlier.
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