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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 27 2017 13:05 GMT
#2996
On March 27 2017 22:01 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2017 21:58 Koshi wrote:
Why has Xatalos been jumpy to get off the AMG wagon? I don't understand it from his filter. Why?


You think our master plan was to have me, try to derail the lynch on the mafia goon... And onto my other more active and also power role teammate on day 2?

Brilliant.

Who else were you going to vote after you called Eden 100% town. And you didn't bother at all getting Xatalos lynched. You just voted him.

Again. Why is Damdred town?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 27 2017 13:42 GMT
#3013
On March 27 2017 22:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2017 22:33 Xatalos wrote:
On March 27 2017 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos is the deadline now 1am for us?


Yes seems so. 17+8=25

Ok then i have 2hrs after work to explain shit.

It's a date. I have a hard time seeing it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 27 2017 15:52 GMT
#3021
On March 28 2017 00:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos just go and look at the possible combinations.
AMG cant be mafia with anyone but Koshi and based on today that doesnt make any sense. Someone can argue Damdred but that doesnt make any sense based on D2.

What happened on D2? Him not liking Damdred/Xatalos?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 27 2017 15:58 GMT
#3023
On March 18 2017 04:57 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 04:23 darthfoley wrote:
I'd like your overall reads when you have them Eden

I don't have a lot yet and I'm sure outside of Calix, none of it is interesting.

Top town is Xatalos followed shortly by rayn and Koshi.
Top scum is Calix.

Damdred has said a lot without a lot jumping out at me one way or another. I don't recall having this much difficulty discerning any feeling about his alignment when he's one of the more active posters in the thread before. Not really sure what to make of it yet, and to be fair to him, my relative disconnectedness from this game compared to past ones on here is probably to blame.

I think disformation is lock town if I'm right about Calix. Pretty sure Calix is scum and spewed disfo town. Loved this post by disfo as well:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 17:58 Calix wrote:
Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come.

1) Push someone weak so you have a scum read
2) get lazy and give the rest lazy town reads
3) "look how much work i already did"

if shit happens you can still easily backtrack, since its early and the trs where fairly weak in the first place


I don't get the Malongo wagon having so many votes. He's a giant blank right now and it's weird that a wagon on a straight null poster got so much traction so quick. Makes me think that there were multiple mafia driving the early discussion and managed to get attention centered on a townie with weak/no thread presence. The alternative is that Malongo is mafia and his team can't do anything to stop the town, in which case this game is easy and I'm not worried anyway.

That's about all I got that I think matters right now.

From reading Eden his filter it is way more likely Damdred is his scumbuddy and not disformation. It's always wifom but Eden is not the best mafia player and it is way more likely he talks about a town!disformation here and a mafia!Damdred.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 27 2017 16:08 GMT
#3026
On March 28 2017 01:02 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2017 00:58 Koshi wrote:
On March 18 2017 04:57 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 18 2017 04:23 darthfoley wrote:
I'd like your overall reads when you have them Eden

I don't have a lot yet and I'm sure outside of Calix, none of it is interesting.

Top town is Xatalos followed shortly by rayn and Koshi.
Top scum is Calix.

Damdred has said a lot without a lot jumping out at me one way or another. I don't recall having this much difficulty discerning any feeling about his alignment when he's one of the more active posters in the thread before. Not really sure what to make of it yet, and to be fair to him, my relative disconnectedness from this game compared to past ones on here is probably to blame.

I think disformation is lock town if I'm right about Calix. Pretty sure Calix is scum and spewed disfo town. Loved this post by disfo as well:
On March 17 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 17:58 Calix wrote:
Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come.

1) Push someone weak so you have a scum read
2) get lazy and give the rest lazy town reads
3) "look how much work i already did"

if shit happens you can still easily backtrack, since its early and the trs where fairly weak in the first place


I don't get the Malongo wagon having so many votes. He's a giant blank right now and it's weird that a wagon on a straight null poster got so much traction so quick. Makes me think that there were multiple mafia driving the early discussion and managed to get attention centered on a townie with weak/no thread presence. The alternative is that Malongo is mafia and his team can't do anything to stop the town, in which case this game is easy and I'm not worried anyway.

That's about all I got that I think matters right now.

From reading Eden his filter it is way more likely Damdred is his scumbuddy and not disformation. It's always wifom but Eden is not the best mafia player and it is way more likely he talks about a town!disformation here and a mafia!Damdred.


In addition to that, though, Eden actually voted Damdred on D1 which put him in a realistic position to be lynched... And Damdred voted a (somewhat) crucial vote against Eden on D2 as well before it was at all clear how it would turn out.

Yes. But double busses happen. That can be manufactured quite easily.
Reads can be manufactured as well obviously. But it is way easier to make "mistakes" within them. The waffle on Damdred vs the clean townread on disformation.

On March 19 2017 07:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
Final Vote Count

[image loading]
me right now


Damdred (3) - raynpelikoneet, Koshi, DeepBlueSea89, Eden1892
disformation (0) - Calix, Xatalos, Koshi
Raynpelikoneet (2) - Malongo, Tumblewood, Xatalos
Calix (0) - disformation, Eden1892
Onegu (0) - Koshi, Tumblewood
darthfoley (1) - disformation, Tumbleweed
Malongo (6) - darthfoley, Koshi, disformation, Calix, Damdred, Xatalos
Tumblewood (0) - Xatalos
Koshi (0) - Onegu
DeepBlueSea (1) - Onegu
Rels (1) - Rels


Not voting (0): -

Malongo is the lynch!

If you find any errors in the vote count, please notify a host via PM.


On how much was Malongo and how was the thread sentiment? When Eden voted? I wasn't around for this lynch.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 27 2017 16:10 GMT
#3027
Traveling home first.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 27 2017 16:43 GMT
#3030
Hmm. But with Rels being around to add another vote on Malongo it is 6-3. Pff. He couldn't do anything else from reading his filter. I guess he could stay on Calix.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 27 2017 17:50 GMT
#3036
So mafia does 1 play and are townread forever? We are in a mindfuck game and it actually makes sense if it is because mafia is calling each other mafia so townies can't find people who are faking to scumhunt.
Who has the worst filter this game rayn? Do not look at fucking "events" in the game. Look at the least contributions and the most mafia type posts.

That is without doubt AMG and Damdred.

AMG hasn't scumread anybody but Xatalos (why?) and Damdred (why?) during D2. After that nothing. Today he scumread me because even though I scumread him. I also went after Damdred. Which is the least fucking mafia thing to do in case he would be town. Yet he calls me mafia.

Damdred COMPLETELY fell off after the Eden lynch. He only made friends after that and made sure to not step on any toes.

Also. If AMG/Eden/Damdred all call each other scum on D2. Only 1 can get fucking lynched. And I am pretty sure that in the last 6 real days AMG and Damdred didn't call each other scum anymore.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 27 2017 17:59 GMT
#3038
On March 28 2017 02:47 Damdred wrote:
I (bias) think the double bus theory is pretty bad. I do like people defending me though

In any case, Rayn why would you rather lynch disf for instance over say Tumble? Tumble did have a few good posts during the night cycle i'll give you that point.

I just find his early game posts a bit strange still? His read progression on Eden just doesn't jive with me exactly, to hard townreading him, then calling him a red herring and its to easy but still voting him. And his going about the d1 lynch, doesn't want to vote you off but still leaves his vote on you ehhh.

IDK it might be a bit of omgus with his constant on the damdred lynch train but his filter just seems a bit off and to willing to lynch down a list really.

I'm not sure if Koshi is starting to fall out of town or not, like I could see town Koshi believing this but i'm not sure.

I agree on your AMG read. Good stuff.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 27 2017 17:59 GMT
#3039
On March 28 2017 02:59 Xatalos wrote:
I guess Damdred's recent play does leave a bit to be desired. Still, the hard (double) bussing through D1&D2 just seems too reckless.

rayn, be the hero we need and solve the game

Xatalos pls. Just fucking give your own opinion. This is bullshit.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 27 2017 18:07 GMT
#3041
On March 28 2017 03:04 Xatalos wrote:
Well, rayn is the only one here I can trust, and he's also a good player. I'd rather go down his path, even if I'm not 100% behind it, rather than detract from him and reignite a town vs town debate (giving scum the control in this already pretty tight lynch).

Can you give reasons why Damdred is town that does not involve Eden?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 27 2017 18:08 GMT
#3042
Does anybody have meta on AMG? Is he a spammer?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 27 2017 18:17 GMT
#3048
On March 28 2017 03:15 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2017 03:07 Koshi wrote:
On March 28 2017 03:04 Xatalos wrote:
Well, rayn is the only one here I can trust, and he's also a good player. I'd rather go down his path, even if I'm not 100% behind it, rather than detract from him and reignite a town vs town debate (giving scum the control in this already pretty tight lynch).

Can you give reasons why Damdred is town that does not involve Eden?


Well, his posts were decent / reasonably insightful at some point. He's kind of faded away as the game progressed though, so just considering his play, I wouldn't hard-townread him.

His only good moment was mid D1 to D2.
Tell me where he was elsewhere good?
Like I genuinely want to know.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 27 2017 18:21 GMT
#3052
That has been his last 6 days...
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 27 2017 18:24 GMT
#3054
For me AMG + Damdred makes so much sense.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 27 2017 18:27 GMT
#3057
On March 28 2017 03:24 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2017 03:21 Koshi wrote:
That has been his last 6 days...


Heh. Well, if he did indeed focus on double bussing with Eden during D1-D2, then his play after that would fit with scum motivations (basically laying low and preserving his "safe" status). IF though, it's a big IF. I could perhaps see myself doing that play, as I've done it before, but it's still unlikely to say the least. The biggest obstacle to him being scum is IMO how Eden just left the thread and left his vote on Damdred at a rather critical moment.

But Eden obviously wasn't planning on not coming back. See his message. Unless that was WIFOM but that is superlame.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 27 2017 18:27 GMT
#3058
On March 28 2017 03:25 Xatalos wrote:
That was D1 EOD btw

oh nvm then.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 27 2017 18:31 GMT
#3064
No this deadline is correct. It will get corrected next time.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 27 2017 19:38 GMT
#3077
On March 28 2017 04:29 disformation wrote:
amg only has done weak stuff outside of his tr on eden.
tw has been playing in a game of his own.

Exactly.

TW played a game on his own. Trying to solve it.
AMG just buddied rayn, and pushed mafia agenda.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 27 2017 19:42 GMT
#3080
Damdred can you vote?
I had a good night of sleep.
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