Liquidmania Qualifier #3

On February 22 2017 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Damdred why exactly do you townread Palmar? What is his case on Vivax?

On February 22 2017 02:05 sicklucker wrote:
ryan def town.Vivax is not obvious mafia yet never lynching day 1. palmar is my bro so i cant be against him this game but might be mafia. so i say we kill the sideliner calling all the easy people scum aka dandred. New guy is townish.

On July 04 2011 09:05 Incognito wrote:
Before we add more coaching, people need to read the guides in this forum and try to figure out stuff from those. There are a LOT of things you can learn by reading over, commenting on, and discussing the guides. The best way to learn is actually not by playing. Its by reading over games where you aren't playing, and trying to figure things out while discussing with someone who is also out of the game. Old games work well for this too. Then when you get back to playing, it is to apply what you learned from reading past games. Learning the principles of analysis is a lot easier when you aren't emotionally invested in a game.

On February 22 2017 18:55 Palmar wrote:
If you follow me I promise to drain the swamp

On February 23 2017 23:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is the thing.

Here is how Palmar's read progresses:
Before D1 end:




The problem here is when Palmar is town and he thinks i am mafia he will 100% vote for me and try to convince everyone else to vote for me because he values lynching me when he thinks i am mafia. There is literally 0% chance Palmar actually thinks i am mafia and doesn't vote for me.


Here is what happens after the lynch:

So either Palmar wanted his #2 lynch to be someone who he doesnt think is scum, or he doesn't actually think i (or Vivax) am mafia. Now how does this make sense? Go back to his filter on D1 and read the posts. Literally every single post where there is a mafia"read" says either "Vivax is mafia" or "rayn is mafia".

Now at this point there is maybe 0.1% chance Palmar is actually just trolling on his read on me, but that cannot be true since he is again calling me scum (when i have not made a single post that could affect the read after N1 start).

TLDR;
- Palmar's read on me doesn't go along with his actions in the thread
- Even if you don't know his play well enough, everything he says is like "i am writing this in a trolling manner so i can backpedal it later on if i need to, i was just trolling".
- He's been just as fucking unproductive than BM has been in this game while actually being here and "playing". Does ANY of you think that Palmar, as town, when a person he thinks in town is getting the most votes aka being lynched, plays like he did on EOD? Never ever, never!!!

Now i am gonna get my stuff ready for the trip and then i am gonna read again and find the second mafia dude. Of and for a possible cop, do not claim even if Palmar sticks with the claim, he is super fucking obvious scum and you don't have to. Even if he somehow manages to get me lynched instead of him do not claim. You'll get another check. Except if you have a red check you can claim because we 100% win the game right there.

On February 24 2017 00:33 Fecalfeast wrote:

Couple questions tho,
You say there's a 0.1% chance palmar is trolling. If the chance is that low why even mention it? Obviously if he's mafia he'll say he was trolling or at least act like it.

If town palmar would lynch you 100% if he thinks you're mafia, what value is there in a mafia palmar not trying to lynch you? Some kind of careless slipup/not thinking like a town?

On February 24 2017 00:34 Fecalfeast wrote:

This is true.

On February 24 2017 00:55 Palmar wrote:
I charge you guilty with tryna lynch town patriot sicklucker, even when he spoke pretty towny and it's clear the case on him was bullshit?

On February 24 2017 00:56 Palmar wrote:
Cop should always claim day 2 assuming he checked n1, which he should have. There is no point in waiting and risking being shot. Regardless of the check being green or red there is no benefit in waiting.

On February 24 2017 01:27 Palmar wrote:

no lol

On February 24 2017 01:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
I don't know anything really.

On February 23 2017 19:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar are you claiming to be a cop?

On February 23 2017 20:12 Palmar wrote:
yes, I am

On February 24 2017 00:56 Palmar wrote:


lyinpelikoneet!

Cop should always claim day 2 assuming he checked n1, which he should have. There is no point in waiting and risking being shot. Regardless of the check being green or red there is no benefit in waiting.

That's why i claimed and now you die.

On February 24 2017 03:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For the record Vivax my case on Palmar has nothing to do with him being a cop or not since i could not prove it anyways so it's jsut dumb to make a case like "i know i am green so he is mafia lying". But he literally claimed a cop in the post i just quoted. Maybe you should start reading properly ok?

On February 23 2017 00:49 Palmar wrote:
well think about it.

Vivax is a dumbass. That's not gonna change regardless of his alignment, thus him being a dumbass is not relevant to his alignment. He can't just magically become smart when he's mafia or town.

On February 23 2017 20:12 Palmar wrote:
yes, I am

On February 23 2017 20:13 Palmar wrote:
well I wasn't, but then you gave me the idea, so I am.

On February 25 2017 11:06 Malongo wrote:

I fail to see why it can`t be Palmar/someone else.

On February 25 2017 10:53 Damdred wrote:


Because it was impossible, it was lynch rayn or let you v lynched as vivax leaves after voting rayn.

Which is interesting.

On February 28 2017 02:37 Palmar wrote:
Like that post makes me want to lynch the fuck out of ff

On February 28 2017 19:30 Palmar wrote:


2) is never true

But yes, we all played like retards. Maybe malongo was ok, but even then not great.