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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 10 2017 07:29 GMT
#142
On February 10 2017 16:17 Vivax wrote:
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On February 10 2017 08:18 ritoky wrote:
from my perspective the cop check should always be on vivax or malongo.

palmar and ls have made themselves binary.
rels, palmar, and damdred all have a good read on me and 1 of them is guaranteed not mafia.
i have a soul read on damdred that is probably at least still partially functional.
i am confident i can read rels quite well

so that leaves vivax and malongo.


Can you explain what you meant here?


that i am generally not well read, but this game has some of the people with more reliable reads on me in it. thus it probably diminishes the value of a cop check on me.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 10 2017 07:52 GMT
#144
On February 10 2017 16:43 Malongo wrote:
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On February 10 2017 16:09 ritoky wrote:
On February 10 2017 16:00 Malongo wrote:
On February 10 2017 15:44 ritoky wrote:
On February 10 2017 15:17 Malongo wrote:
I mean the whole idea about first day claiming from palmar is getting a medic on him and making mafia gamble.


On the contrary, if he is mafia he is effectively reducing the game to a 1v1 between him and the cop assuming no saves; and essentially laying down a gauntlet saying "I will outplay you, force town to make the wrong call and lose instantly". The play he made cuts both ways. It places himself in a fulcrum position, which I think tickles what ego Palmar has in just the right spot.


The problem is Palmer being mafia makes LS the real DT or green wich makes 0 sense to me given his posting.


What specific posts from LS make you significantly convinced?


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On February 10 2017 07:23 LightningStrike wrote:
With that being said idk if it makes palmar scum or trying to bait a shot on him instead the real cop (me).

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On February 10 2017 07:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 10 2017 07:25 Rels wrote:
yeah a cc war already
if I had to decide with 0 info Palmar would be the one I lynch. More his type to do this kind of play than LS

Well it night 0 I going to check him.




Regarding the second post, what's the reason behind it making him mafia? Wrong/dumb = mafia?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 10 2017 09:40 GMT
#146
On February 10 2017 18:31 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2017 16:29 ritoky wrote:
On February 10 2017 16:17 Vivax wrote:
On February 10 2017 08:18 ritoky wrote:
from my perspective the cop check should always be on vivax or malongo.

palmar and ls have made themselves binary.
rels, palmar, and damdred all have a good read on me and 1 of them is guaranteed not mafia.
i have a soul read on damdred that is probably at least still partially functional.
i am confident i can read rels quite well

so that leaves vivax and malongo.


Can you explain what you meant here?


that i am generally not well read, but this game has some of the people with more reliable reads on me in it. thus it probably diminishes the value of a cop check on me.


But only Damdred posted a read on you so far so isn't it a bit premature to exclude yourself from a check without asking the other two for a read?


not talking about their specific read this game, speaking about historical accuracy.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 10 2017 20:50 GMT
#167
On February 10 2017 21:00 Vivax wrote:
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On February 10 2017 20:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways I know who I checking but wont reveal who it is until 1 minute before EoN.


Do you think its better to have both cop claims check same target or not?

I think it is cause with a fake result the checked target instantly knows who's the fake cop


Who would you have checked if you were to direct the cops to check the same person?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 10 2017 21:02 GMT
#168
On February 11 2017 00:59 Palmar wrote:
Nice, new page good time to post optimal play guides:

@Doc: Do not claim your role until lylo (don't claim in mylo). I'm going to assume Malongo is a troll, not a retard. If he is genuinely doc and mafia believes him, he basically reduced our chance of winning from super likely to very unlikely.

Also @Doc, tread carefully with wifom. TL players are retarded and like to go for homeruns. I know it's going to be tempting to not protect me (or LS, if you're bad at life) tonight, but you really, really should protect me. It's optimal play for mafia to shoot into the 4 people that might be doc (aka, not me or the 2 scummers), because they should be assuming that I'm protected, which is the reason I claimed in the first place.

Yes, if you play optimally, your protection is "wasted" because mafia will shoot into town, BUT, I've seen mafia go for broke often in this setup (basically gamble the doc will try a big play, and just straight up shoot the cop). I am going to super mad if I die tonight.


I think there's an argument to be made that once the cop is CC'd protecting either is not the optimal play because mafia shooting either results in a 1 for 1 trade of cop for mafia which in this setup seems fine for town. It also keeps the doctor save "live" in the event that mafia doesn't want to shoot into the cop and trade, which optimally they won't do because it is a net loss.

But I suppose arguing optimal play semantics is not really for this thread.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 10 2017 21:04 GMT
#170
On February 11 2017 06:03 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2017 05:50 ritoky wrote:
On February 10 2017 21:00 Vivax wrote:
On February 10 2017 20:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways I know who I checking but wont reveal who it is until 1 minute before EoN.


Do you think its better to have both cop claims check same target or not?

I think it is cause with a fake result the checked target instantly knows who's the fake cop


Who would you have checked if you were to direct the cops to check the same person?


Rels.


underwhelming/inactivity or a reason?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 10 2017 21:57 GMT
#173
was nice playing with you guys for a little bit again. i fully expect to die in 3 mins.

“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 10 2017 22:45 GMT
#179
On February 11 2017 07:18 LightningStrike wrote:
##vote: Palmar Mafia because I the real cop and he should be lynched.


So convince. Considering you posted a YYH vid about how you were gonna wreck Palmar, you really have done nothing since then of any form of usefulness.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 10 2017 22:47 GMT
#180
On February 11 2017 07:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Does it bother anyone that the claimed medic is alive as well?


So you believe his claim. Why?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 10 2017 22:51 GMT
#181
Also LS, why is rels a higher priority check for you than Damdred, when they essentially made the same read on you?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 10 2017 23:16 GMT
#184
On February 11 2017 07:56 Damdred wrote:
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On February 11 2017 07:51 ritoky wrote:
Also LS, why is rels a higher priority check for you than Damdred, when they essentially made the same read on you?


I like this question. Like ls usually you like to have me confirmed at any point as you Wifom your way into he'll on me half the time.But it doesn't matter I'll be confirmed town soon anyway.

@LS and Rit what do you think of the doctor claim and the way he went about it?

That question for everyone who wants to answer.


i don't think he's the doctor. if i had to hazard a guess i think he is vt being a bonehead trying to do some kind of convoluted play that does more harm than good.

if he comes in an says "yo i am doctor, never rescinding, never back down" in his next posts, then i think he is mafia on the grounds he claims doctor and save target instantly and then turns around and calls LS scum cuz dumb/bad. at that point i just have to assume his level of hypocrisy and poor play makes him mafia.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 10 2017 23:19 GMT
#185
for LS the game should be simple. he isn't mafia, palmar is, rels isn't, i am never mafia; so he literally has 2 suspects: malo and damd.....so what about damdred makes him more town than a guy who claimed doc? because the way LS talks to/about damdred reads to me like he isn't even considering him an option.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 10 2017 23:21 GMT
#187
Also @palmar, I am done listening to your robotic canned talk, get out of your bubble and interact in a way where I can get a read on you.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 10 2017 23:26 GMT
#189
On February 11 2017 08:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2017 08:19 ritoky wrote:
for LS the game should be simple. he isn't mafia, palmar is, rels isn't, i am never mafia; so he literally has 2 suspects: malo and damd.....so what about damdred makes him more town than a guy who claimed doc? because the way LS talks to/about damdred reads to me like he isn't even considering him an option.

Well there is a chance you are scum though. Maybe I should check Damdred if we end up not lynching anyone today.


Lul. 0.0% chance I am mafia this game. I actually genuinely believe that outside of the first Cell Mafia game, this is the most town I have ever been on TL.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 11 2017 00:48 GMT
#199
k, so it is damdred or malongo. malongo, you claiming doctor and never rescinding?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 11 2017 00:54 GMT
#200
On February 11 2017 09:29 Palmar wrote:
Hi I checked Rels he came back green


Reasoning?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 11 2017 01:10 GMT
#203
On February 11 2017 10:01 Malongo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2017 09:48 ritoky wrote:
k, so it is damdred or malongo. malongo, you claiming doctor and never rescinding?

Theres no reason to confirm/deny at this point.

Still reading the thread, I really hate that somehow both DTs checked rels.


Why not? Palmar and LS are binary, rels is confirmed green, I am never mafia. If you have a way to confirm yourself as town through claim then damdred becomes confirmed mafia who we can immediately lynch.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 11 2017 08:57 GMT
#212
Travelling home from vacation now. 12-14 hours of phone posting at best. Someone do shit in my stead.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 12 2017 03:16 GMT
#214
What in the actual fuck....
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 12 2017 03:16 GMT
#215
Are all of you mafia? Like seriously.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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