EPTOn February 13 2017 23:02 Vivax wrote:
I only want to know what sharkie and Grack will vote on this
I only want to know what sharkie and Grack will vote on this
Obviously I'm voting reject. Everyone likes the team except for me/sharkie/EC.
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Grackaroni
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Obviously I'm voting reject. Everyone likes the team except for me/sharkie/EC. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On February 13 2017 23:51 Grackaroni wrote: Obviously I'm voting reject. Everyone likes the team except for me/sharkie/EC. Why would Sharkie dislike the team? I thought grack/tw/ec was sharkie's scumteam. Also from EC's perspective grack or sharkie should be mafia (or silver TINFOILMODE). | ||
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Superbia
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Grackaroni
United States9857 Posts
On February 14 2017 00:08 Superbia wrote: Why would Sharkie dislike the team? I thought grack/tw/ec was sharkie's scumteam. Also from EC's perspective grack or sharkie should be mafia (or silver TINFOILMODE). You don't really read his posts do ya? | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On February 14 2017 00:46 Grackaroni wrote: You don't really read his posts do ya? I want to know exact reasons. | ||
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Superbia
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sharkie
Austria18759 Posts
My reasons for rejecting it are the same as they were back then, super. So pretty much anyone believes super is a spy but they want to consider a team he rejected? Both of super's two possible teams included vivax in it and our two top resistance players (silver, rtani). The fourth member is pretty irrelevant apparently as he did not care whether he is in the team or sicklucker is in the team. In my opinion this just reinforces my theory of vivax being the head spymaster of the spy team and I guess I was incorrect in my guess that the other two spies are EC and TW. Seems as if super is part of the spy team. It does not change the rest of my theory that vivax is a spy and his teammates just are bad players (Super and EC or TW). But people would rather believe in a Grack who acts in a complete suicide manner by losing all his credibility for really nothing than a vivax who had a very, very good shot at being included as the 4th member in the second mission. I mean he even started suspecting rtani during the nomination process and threw in the loop that he'd rather have rtani than me in the mission (with the aim to put all the blame on rtani when the mission fails). Some of you might remember how he kept saying when the mission fails rt+sharkie team is a given lol. Weird that he considered pretty much the second highest top resistance member a 100% spy till the moment Grack turned 180? But seriously no one even remembers what he has done most of the game. I feel as if I have to keep repeating myself as no one reads my posts. TLDR: VIVAX FRAMED RTANI AS A 100% SPY BEFORE GRACK'S 180. But I guess all I will get is satisfaction that I was right when the game ends | ||
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sharkie
Austria18759 Posts
On February 14 2017 01:18 Superbia wrote: Like at this point, if this is an all-town team, scum has to reject. So I want to know why reads are switching now and where people are at exactly. On February 10 2017 07:00 Rels wrote: The team consisting of RtaniSoul, sicklucker, Silverika, Vivax has been rejected. Votes for: none. Votes against: emperorchampion, Grackaroni, RtaniSoul, sharkie, sicklucker, Silverika, Superbia, Tumblewood, Vivax. Team Leader Grackaroni will now make Attempt #2 to nominate a team for Mission #3. The nomination will be locked Friday, Feb 10 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), in . | ||
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Superbia
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sharkie
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On February 14 2017 02:14 Superbia wrote: Your theory fell apart when you called me a bad player. Wow what incredible defense. I am sorry I was too dazzled by your inactivity. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On February 14 2017 02:11 sharkie wrote: This is the exact same team we had two nominations ago... My reasons for rejecting it are the same as they were back then, super. So pretty much anyone believes super is a spy but they want to consider a team he rejected? Both of super's two possible teams included vivax in it and our two top resistance players (silver, rtani). The fourth member is pretty irrelevant apparently as he did not care whether he is in the team or sicklucker is in the team. In my opinion this just reinforces my theory of vivax being the head spymaster of the spy team and I guess I was incorrect in my guess that the other two spies are EC and TW. Seems as if super is part of the spy team. It does not change the rest of my theory that vivax is a spy and his teammates just are bad players (Super and EC or TW). But people would rather believe in a Grack who acts in a complete suicide manner by losing all his credibility for really nothing than a vivax who had a very, very good shot at being included as the 4th member in the second mission. I mean he even started suspecting rtani during the nomination process and threw in the loop that he'd rather have rtani than me in the mission (with the aim to put all the blame on rtani when the mission fails). Some of you might remember how he kept saying when the mission fails rt+sharkie team is a given lol. Weird that he considered pretty much the second highest top resistance member a 100% spy till the moment Grack turned 180? But seriously no one even remembers what he has done most of the game. I feel as if I have to keep repeating myself as no one reads my posts. TLDR: VIVAX FRAMED RTANI AS A 100% SPY BEFORE GRACK'S 180. But I guess all I will get is satisfaction that I was right when the game ends Didn't you believe I was town like a day ago? Also, what does it have to do with the fact that I rejected a similar team? (I completely forgot about that team nom btw, pretty interesting it's the exact same team) | ||
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sharkie
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Superbia
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On February 14 2017 02:26 sharkie wrote: Lovely how you refuse to call yourself a bad player but then you don't even know what teams were nominated beforehand or what my position is in the grack/vivax debate heh. Minimal effort. Still solving the game. | ||
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RtaniSoul
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Starting assumptions Silver/me Starting out with Silver and myself being in all effect confirmed town. I already had a very strong feeling on Silver being town before, and it's only compounded through dick move analysis after silver went emo on a mild amount of shade thrown on them by sharkie. We've put in too much effort to be a spy and that should be obvious by now. If Silver is spy, and to the rest if we're spy, the game is by all means over. EC Next, EC is confirmed mafia. Throughout the game he has taken very floaty stances as mentioned by I think silverika. His Grack townread came off a shaky SL scumread that when challenged, he almost immediately dropped. He's also dropped off the map and though some people really don't like this argument, the fact that the slot's been replaced twice already, including once from HtS whom has played through a game where she was quite sick as town all but condemns them in our eyes. Summary This leaves 2 spies in a group of 6, of which at least one is between sharkie/grack/vivax. To make things simpler, I will attempt to rule out certain combinations that don't make much sense and attempt to come to a set of scenario's where we can guarantee a win by mission 5. Connections Super Super/EC seems unlikely at first, especially if the remaining mafia is not Vivax. They both voted against the first and second mission that went through, with the second one failing. It is important to note that spies don't have the ability to communicate with one another, but in a scenario in which Sharkie or Grack is mafia, 2 spies voted against a mission with a spy on it and all 6 resistance players plus the spy voted for it. On the other hand, during EC's mission, he said: On February 01 2017 06:26 emperorchampion wrote: @art I don't really see a compelling reason to switch super for grack? makes sense to put both on to me Sorry this is from mobile For his nomination he didn't want to swap grack in for super despite thread pressure, for which there's little reason for him to do so unless that would change the spy total to either 2 or 0. This leads me to believe that Super and Grack are opposite alignments, and thus Super is never mafia with Grack. I still see it as a possibility however that Super is mafia with EC, which would suggest to me that the only viable combination with Super as mafia is Super/Sharkie/EC. Tumblewood/LightningStrike TW/LS is an interesting slot as well. His nomination was TW/Grack/Vivax. If he's a spy, it doesn't really make sense for him to send himself with another spy, though it's possible he didn't believe the mission would go through. He's hardballed on Vivax being town and on Sharkie being mafia leading me to believe he's most likely to be a spy with Grack. Though he went softer on sharkie later and scumread them about equally, I don't believe TW has the balls to hard townread AND send spy teammate Vivax on a mission with him. What speaks in favour of TW being mafia is that EC voted for his mission. This is also something pointing towards one of Grack/Vivax being mafia rather than Sharkie. The two combinations I can see for TW/LS are TW/Grack/EC and to a lesser extent TW/Sharkie/EC. Sicklucker Sicklucker has been the punching bag for most of the game and has not been on any mission other than the unanimously rejected mission of RtaniSoul, sicklucker, Silverika, Vivax which provides little information. A large point in his favour is that EC nominated a Super/TW/Silver team, and with Silver being for all intents confirmed, we have to conclude that either EC sent an all-town team or SL is town. In the scenario in which EC sent an all-town team, we have to dig a little deeper. Vivax mentioned halfway through the approval process of M1 that he will treat SL as perma scum. Half a day later, he's considering a scenario in which SL is town. His opinion change on SL to potentially add him on a mission as the first person to openly do so doesn't feel like a likely spy/spy scenario due to the favorable position Vivax was in at the time. Considering this combination unlikely. I don't believe in a Sharkie/SL team because of this post: On February 04 2017 18:00 sharkie wrote: - sicklucker: approving/rejecting keeping secret only works in real life scenarios imo. There is so much meaning lost when you type something instead of seeing your other players face to face. So I don't think you can avoid keeping it open that at all imo. In this setting the more you post the more information you give other players so that's why people who don't post a lot seem very suspect. P.S. Vivax I hate you for not choosing yourself over me.  Sharkie is talking to SL as if he thinks SL is town. Given the amount of suspicion ousted towards SL at the time, this combination seems exceedingly unlikely. It's also hard to see a Grack/SL spy team due to the incredible certainty in which Grack put away SL as mafia, though possible. This post also doesn't feel spy on spy: On February 12 2017 07:36 Grackaroni wrote: lol. But mine at least had some discussion and an active day. Yours was "I'm choosing myself..." into everyone afking. Unless we're talking Toad/VE TL Mafia LI kind of hate it seems rather unlikely, thus I consider SL to basically be town, with an outside chance of being mafia with Vivax or Grack. Conclusions Combinations that I view as plausible: EC/Sharkie/Super EC/Grack/LS EC/Sharkie/LS Combinations that I view as possible but unlikely: EC/Vivax/SL [gap] EC/Vivax/Super EC/Grack/SL This excludes the scenario's in which two of the people in the second mission are mafia, and doesn't go into my personal feelings of the slots itself (other than EC/Silver/me). Going forward Myself/Silver/SL/Vivax is the mission with the highest probability of success. Presuming my analysis is correct, they are either both spies, or, far more likely, neither are spies. The only contingency I haven't looked at for this is whether it's likely Vivax is a spybuddy with Grack or Sharkie, though my initial experience throughout the thread suggests it isn't the case. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On February 14 2017 00:18 Superbia wrote: sicklucker, who's your scum team atm? the guys not on the mission | ||
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Vivax
22414 Posts
Then the game ends and we get endgamed by RtaniSoul/Swika/Superbia In all seriousness though. I just say, be careful. | ||
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