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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 20:04 GMT
#1617
On January 23 2017 04:57 Holyflare wrote:
Onegu, you need to prove to BM that I do this fake claim as mafia by outlining where in my history of mafia games that I have fake claimed or fake cc'd anything. I guarantee you will find 0 because I do not stick my neck out as mafia like that and make things hazy in the balance. I play a solid game and just win it through yelling.

Fake ccing and fake claiming is my staple town play and you know it onegu. Literally the last lylo we played together we had this EXACTTTTTTTT same conversation and it was so blatantly obviously attributed to my town play.




You are doing alot of yelling this game...
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 20:06 GMT
#1619
I will say something its really fucking weird that BM is just letting me and you go back and forth and not saying anything here...

Not weird enough for me to unvote you but weird.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 20:33 GMT
#1624
On January 23 2017 05:10 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2017 05:06 Onegu wrote:
I will say something its really fucking weird that BM is just letting me and you go back and forth and not saying anything here...

Not weird enough for me to unvote you but weird.


and you keep mentioning little things about bm

are you keeping options open for if he returns with a vote on you?



No never unvoting you
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 22:47 GMT
#1634
On January 23 2017 07:40 Bill Murray wrote:
Ok I'm thinking onegu kept hf alive to pull the why is hf still alive card vote : onegu



This is 100% wrong. I would never keep HF alive if I was scum
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 22:49 GMT
#1635
On January 23 2017 07:47 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2017 07:40 Bill Murray wrote:
Ok I'm thinking onegu kept hf alive to pull the why is hf still alive card vote : onegu



This is 100% wrong. I would never keep HF alive if I was scum



You think if I was scum I would shoot Vivax there? The person scum reading you? No never.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 22:53 GMT
#1639
Yeah I am here.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 22:56 GMT
#1644
On January 23 2017 07:49 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2017 23:27 Onegu wrote:
On January 22 2017 23:23 Holyflare wrote:
I literally do not care anymore if that's how you want to play. Cya in 2 days



It's what happens with this game type, the possibility of getting mvp or points becomes more important than winning.

@BM any questions let me know.

Why shouldnt i vote someone who is appealing to statistics? You talk about " points " like I care . The only thing I care about is a Win vs a loss



No I think the point of this game since it is a qualifier is to get points or MVP not necessarily win if you want to go to the next round, winning is a good cherry on top though. I want to go to the next round. Therefore making the play that would get me the most points or MVP is the correct play for me. I currently am around 75% scum on HF. But even if I was only 10% on HF being scum I would still vote him as it is the play that has the most +EV to get me to the next round.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 22:59 GMT
#1648
On January 23 2017 07:53 Bill Murray wrote:
With you all both claiming healer I could just park my vote and AFK even if you all both unclaimed or one unclaimed or whatever I don't really care it makes you all have had a cc... thing is I'm VT so I'm confused who is mafia and who is my teammate



Then you have to ask yourself which one makes more sense. My fake claim or HF counter Fake claim. My claim makes sense from a town point of view wanting points. HF counter claim doesnt make much sense coming from town. If he is town and gets shot he takes himself out of lylo.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 23:00 GMT
#1650
On January 23 2017 07:58 Bill Murray wrote:
You're saying if I'm scum you'd vote hf anyways and I'm arguing with you what does that tell you



yes I am saying even if I was 90% sure you were scum I would still vote HF and try to get you to vote with me on the 10% chance that he was scum.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 23:03 GMT
#1652
On January 23 2017 07:59 Holyflare wrote:
I am also here. You should be able to get a clear picture from the last few pages that onegu is voting me out of necessity and not because he actually mafia reads me.

He's said he's keeping his vote on me for points but then during points he tries to appeal to you multiple times as if it's a scum read. It doesn't make sense.

There's a lot of things I've done this game that incredibly make me town and onegu knows this (i mentioned it in the last page) but he's insistent on not even going over it.

The rels kill n1 was increasingly likely a combination of medic dodge and because rels started to scum read onegu.

Onegu has fought for my life multiple times in this game but never actually town read me. His reason was simply that he's better at reading me later. Now that excuse has finally ended it has become no real read and he's doing it for points.

His fake claim leaving lots of time before deadline looks increasingly like a medic bait into him carrying as "confirmed" if nobody ccd. He was forced to drop it because i fake ccd but no doubt in my mind he continues it if i didn't.



If I was scum why is it necessary for me to vote you? It isnt.

All day I have said you are scum. I give you 75%. My point is I wouldnt vote BM even if I thought he was scum.

I am scum reading you. I gave reasons they are in my filter.

No I am town and would have unclaimed at deadline.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 23:04 GMT
#1654
On January 23 2017 08:03 Holyflare wrote:
And that, ladies and gentleman, is why onegu is mafia. His play is so subpar that he can't even make up reasons to mafia read me

Thank you for literally doing the work for me.



Read my filter they are there. You are just ignoring them. You dont fake CC as town. You just dont.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 23:08 GMT
#1662
On January 23 2017 08:05 Holyflare wrote:
Bm is sitting here asking for reasons to vote one or the other. Your reason is you want points regardless as if to psyche him out that you'd only make this play as town because your content just simply doesn't exist.

You reference multiple times that you have a reason to scum read me. Link them and I'll demolish them. If they're purely about the cc it's a totally good play to stop you fake claiming your way to victory as mafia too.



If you are town and do it and I am the medic what then? You get shot and I get lynched right after? And its a throw. If you made that play as town I will say it is the worst play you have ever made.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 23:10 GMT
#1666
On January 23 2017 08:07 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2017 08:04 Onegu wrote:
On January 23 2017 08:03 Holyflare wrote:
And that, ladies and gentleman, is why onegu is mafia. His play is so subpar that he can't even make up reasons to mafia read me

Thank you for literally doing the work for me.



Read my filter they are there. You are just ignoring them. You dont fake CC as town. You just dont.

Why not? I've done it



There is a difference between me and you doing it and HF doing it. HF knows he is the best player in the game. Me and you are lynchbait. Us making that play to get shot makes sense as it takes a question mark and not great player out of lylo. HF taking himself out of lylo doesnt make sense.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 23:11 GMT
#1669
On January 23 2017 08:10 Bill Murray wrote:
His play makes sense if he's medic



But he isnt. He said he isnt....
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 23:12 GMT
#1670
On January 23 2017 08:11 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2017 08:08 Onegu wrote:
On January 23 2017 08:05 Holyflare wrote:
Bm is sitting here asking for reasons to vote one or the other. Your reason is you want points regardless as if to psyche him out that you'd only make this play as town because your content just simply doesn't exist.

You reference multiple times that you have a reason to scum read me. Link them and I'll demolish them. If they're purely about the cc it's a totally good play to stop you fake claiming your way to victory as mafia too.



If you are town and do it and I am the medic what then? You get shot and I get lynched right after? And its a throw. If you made that play as town I will say it is the worst play you have ever made.


I get shot and you say it was a mafia shot bait and uncc?? Not hard onegu.



Yeah like Vivax would believe that...
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 23:14 GMT
#1674
On January 23 2017 08:13 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2017 08:10 Onegu wrote:
On January 23 2017 08:07 Bill Murray wrote:
On January 23 2017 08:04 Onegu wrote:
On January 23 2017 08:03 Holyflare wrote:
And that, ladies and gentleman, is why onegu is mafia. His play is so subpar that he can't even make up reasons to mafia read me

Thank you for literally doing the work for me.



Read my filter they are there. You are just ignoring them. You dont fake CC as town. You just dont.

Why not? I've done it



There is a difference between me and you doing it and HF doing it. HF knows he is the best player in the game. Me and you are lynchbait. Us making that play to get shot makes sense as it takes a question mark and not great player out of lylo. HF taking himself out of lylo doesnt make sense.

I personally always think I'm as good as anyone I just don't pri0ritize it like I used to so this doesn't matter to me . I enjoy lylo as well I just hate being in the position of power because I'm always wrong



Ok, My point still stands why does the best player in the game try to take himself out of lylo? He doesnt.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 23:17 GMT
#1678
On January 23 2017 08:14 Bill Murray wrote:
(Wiki)
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2017 08:11 Onegu wrote:
On January 23 2017 08:10 Bill Murray wrote:
His play makes sense if he's medic



But he isnt. He said he isnt....

And say I miss the vote and he saves me tonight



In the hypothetical that I am mafia and we no lynch today. Its still game over as the medic cant save himself...

But I am VT.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 23:18 GMT
#1679
On January 23 2017 08:15 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2017 08:14 Onegu wrote:
On January 23 2017 08:13 Bill Murray wrote:
On January 23 2017 08:10 Onegu wrote:
On January 23 2017 08:07 Bill Murray wrote:
On January 23 2017 08:04 Onegu wrote:
On January 23 2017 08:03 Holyflare wrote:
And that, ladies and gentleman, is why onegu is mafia. His play is so subpar that he can't even make up reasons to mafia read me

Thank you for literally doing the work for me.



Read my filter they are there. You are just ignoring them. You dont fake CC as town. You just dont.

Why not? I've done it



There is a difference between me and you doing it and HF doing it. HF knows he is the best player in the game. Me and you are lynchbait. Us making that play to get shot makes sense as it takes a question mark and not great player out of lylo. HF taking himself out of lylo doesnt make sense.

I personally always think I'm as good as anyone I just don't pri0ritize it like I used to so this doesn't matter to me . I enjoy lylo as well I just hate being in the position of power because I'm always wrong



Ok, My point still stands why does the best player in the game try to take himself out of lylo? He doesnt.


And I'm still here



Umm
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 23:20 GMT
#1680
I got it. I just fucking figured it out.

If HF is town makes the CC to get shot. Why doesnt he leave his reads before deadline. He kept saying last night he was going to make some big post with his reads and why he played the game like he did. Then fake CC and doesnt give his reads?

So town HF makes a play to get shot and then doesnt give his reads? NEVER NEVER NEVER
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 22 2017 23:23 GMT
#1681
90% sure hf is the scum now
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