Liquidmania Qualifier #2 - Page 7

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

January 22 2017 10:04 GMT

#1561

I dont think I will unvote HF though. Even though my brain hurts right now.

Here is why I dont think I will unvote HF.

He doesnt pass the smell test.

But the bigger reason, I want the belt. I want the MVP. Lynching BM and him flipping scum doesnt give me the MVP. I may not even get second in that case. But lynching scum HF here I get mvp 100%.

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

January 22 2017 10:05 GMT

#1562

On January 22 2017 18:59 Holyflare wrote:

Show nested quote +

You realise he said he was fake claiming and claimed vt at the start of the game right lol? Are you trying to dumb tell yourself as confirmed? :D

I claim VT at the start of every game that doesnt mean shit...

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

January 22 2017 10:29 GMT

#1569

On January 22 2017 19:26 Holyflare wrote:
Something is really fucking off here. Both of you have defended/sheeped me all game and both of you are bow voting me. One of you needs to stop being shit and talk to me.

I am talking to you. But like I said I want mvp and the only way I get mvp is to lynch scum HF... I'll respond to some of your points.

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

January 22 2017 10:31 GMT

#1570

On January 22 2017 19:10 Holyflare wrote:
Ok here's why I'm town:

1. I did actual scum hunting the entire game looking for inconsistencies and evaluated them at each point.

2. I was super into lynching damdred for his mistake but was extremely quick to back off it when I saw that it could have been just a mistake.

3. I went after hapa, one of the best town players on this site, day 1 and when it came to lynch time I commandeered my own lynch to lynch something that made perfect sense to me (ls being mafia) instead of just lynching the good player who was mafia reading me.

4. I spent the entirety of the night trying to figure out the game and have a conversation with vivax and hapa while pointing out things I didn't like from everyone.

5. The thread was dead and I've spent all game trying to resurrect it and get you guys active and talk insted of making it stale.

6. I went after hapa again day 2 instead of easy lynches like damdred, onegu and slam (well yeh he was mafia but whatever).

7. I put in more activity at n1 than the last 3 of my scum games combined.

1. You do that a scum, You are a lawyer.

2. Ok

3. Ok town points for this one.

4. Again you do this a scum also.

5. Easy way to look town.

6. This is a scum point. Like if you are scum you want hapa out of the game right?

7. You knew slam was your partner and knew you would most likely have to carry the game.

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

January 22 2017 10:33 GMT

#1571

On January 22 2017 19:12 Holyflare wrote:
Things that don't make sense for me as mafia:

1. Shooting rels over hapa/vivax both of who were sfum reading me.

2. Switching off the better town player in the game because I wanted to lynch ls on inconsistencies.

3. Being this active even though my partner would have to have been slam and inactive?

4. Backing down on things and thinking it through and pushing logical things instead of hounding on crap points.

1. You dont know if there is a medic in the game if you are scum. Rels medic dodge n1 makes sense.

2. Ok, yeah will give you this one.

3. You want to win. Always have always will. You knew you needed to carry if you get that scummate.

4. Lawyer. And I need to go look if you had crap points or not.

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

January 22 2017 14:20 GMT

#1578

Lol I never try to really figure you out until Lylo. And now I am saying you are the scum.

I'm going 75% HF. 25% BM.

But because of the game type I'm never unvoteing. Again only way I get mvp is by lynching you. So even if those percentages were flipped. I think I would still vote HF.

If I was scum I doubt I would just auto vote you HF gives me less options.

But now regardless of your alignment you have to vote me.

@BM if you are scum you get MVP. If you are town vote with me to get more points. I am town.

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

January 22 2017 14:25 GMT

#1580

On January 22 2017 23:12 Holyflare wrote:
That's my final answer. I can't be bothered to fight back if it's just going to be sporadic posts from both of you with no actual content on why you're town. Ridiculous to figure out.

I have been here but I realized I won't unvote you. So if you are town sorry bout that but this is the type of game this is as a qualifier.

@BM you can go back and look day one I was talking about sacrificing my self to get more points as I want to qualify for the finals so I can beat Koshi. My play matches my town mentality as scum I wouldn't offer to sacrifice myself for points, more so with slam as my partner.

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

January 22 2017 14:27 GMT

#1581

On January 22 2017 23:23 Holyflare wrote:
I literally do not care anymore if that's how you want to play. Cya in 2 days

It's what happens with this game type, the possibility of getting mvp or points becomes more important than winning.

@BM any questions let me know.

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

January 22 2017 14:35 GMT

#1585

On January 22 2017 23:28 Holyflare wrote:
You realise if you're town you get 0 points right?

Only if I am wrong.

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

January 22 2017 14:42 GMT

#1589

On January 22 2017 23:33 Holyflare wrote:
The only way your vote makes the slightest bit of sense is if you're mafia.

If you're mafia lynching me will give you mvp, well slam being afk almost guarantees that anyway but still lynching me is swag.

If you're town you automatically lose the game abd can't be mvp and get default points.

So the only way you give up trying to figure me out is if you're mafia and that's why I'm staying on you.

But if I was mafia why would I need to go for the swag play? If I won I would get it anyway. And why afk vote and say that's what I am doing.

If BM is scum and i vote him and you do also I get maybe second place points, maybe third. You will get MVP not me. If he is town and you are scum and I lynch him I am getting only 10 points. 2 ways you get MVP, 1 way I do. besides I still think you have the better chance to be scum.

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

January 22 2017 14:44 GMT

#1591

On January 22 2017 23:36 Holyflare wrote:
No, if you're right, which you're not, and bm is town then bm gets mvp for not being under suspicion all game and voting on me. And then you get 10 points as default.

So, yes, the only way your vote makes sense is if you're mafia trying to lynch me to secure mvp.

With Koshi as cohost maybe they give it to BM. But I think me being the main push behind you, making you CC with a fake claim only to open yourself up gives it to me.

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

January 22 2017 14:48 GMT

#1595

On January 22 2017 23:43 Holyflare wrote:
If you're not mafia and bm is you'll need to convince me and you'd get mvp you tool. I haven't really suspected the dude until today.

No way I would get it over you. And I got no real reason to scum read him. All I got is a few reasons to town read you that I have already said, but I think those few points override the scum points.

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

January 22 2017 14:51 GMT

#1596

I'm town the only way I get mvp is if you are Mafia.

Actually though I do have 1 reason to scum read BM though. Vivax death.

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

January 22 2017 14:56 GMT

#1600

On January 22 2017 23:53 Holyflare wrote:
You have mentioned 0 points this entire time for me to be mafia :D :D :D

And hapa would definitely get mvp over you and he even voted himself lol!

Then you haven't been reading today.

AND

No way dude, Hapa never lynched mafia, if you are mafia and I lynch you, it's mine.

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

January 22 2017 14:57 GMT

#1601

On January 22 2017 23:53 Holyflare wrote:
Why does vivax's death make bm mafia?

Vivax last post was that BM was Mafia.

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

January 22 2017 14:58 GMT

#1602

On January 22 2017 23:53 Holyflare wrote:
Also fuck you for not letting me leave.

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

January 22 2017 19:41 GMT

#1606

Sigh HF you are pulling at strings. I am VT. And the loss thing was I fake claimed. I got CC. You die you dont think I get lynched followed up after that? That was my thought process.

And I wasnt thinking about you always fake claim. I was talking about it happens. The last game I was in it occurred. And I know sometimes town do it even though doing a fake CC is so bad. Doing a regular fake claim is one thing doing a fake CC is another and I really think you are a better player than that.

Really I think you would know better then as town to do a fake CC. A fake claim sure. But a fake CC? No I really think you though I was the medic, made the CC and then planned to lynch me today. Is it possible you did it as town? Sure. But really dont think that is a play you make as town.

Also I would have killed you if I was scum. I wont chance going into lylo with you. If anyone here shoots the stronger player as scum it is me.

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

January 22 2017 19:44 GMT

#1607

@ BM really all you have to think about is this.

Does VT HF make a fake CC as town to get shot and not put himself in lylo?

Occams razor is he is scum. Made a CC to go head to head with me and thought he could get me lynched with claim vs claim.

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

January 22 2017 19:59 GMT

#1615

On January 23 2017 04:48 Holyflare wrote:
vivax was basically confirmed town why are you trying to say you'd shoot anyone but vivax???

please link me a game where someone claims a couple of hours before deadline at lylo when there is no need to and is ever shot because I have never in my life seen that happen, it's the most obvious fake claim in existence

the last time somebody fake claimed hours before deadline was sicklucker because he was mafia

let's look at it from this perspective, before you fake cc'd who did you think was mafia?

It wasnt hours. It was 45 minutes. And I was leaning toward BM being mafia during the night. And as mafia I dont care if people are confirmed town (which vivax looked town but was in no way confirmed) if I think they are already thinking wrong and I can get them to lynch the wrong person. I will always kill the better player as mafia.

Also not the most obvious fake claim. IIRC sicklucker was getting scum read hard when he did it as mafia. I had almost no pressure on me. Vivax was on BM and I have no idea where your head was. Plus I am onegu I am capable of doing that as actual medic.

Look if I am medic. I can wifom who I am saving if they dont want to shoot me, and almost always they have to shoot me on the chance I am the medic. I dont think it was a obvious fake claim. I know I am always a question mark. If I can make scum waste a shot on a question mark even if I am the medic here is a win. Because even if I make a save it is still lylo with 4 players not 3. It is still lylo because the medic cannot save himself or the same person so its still game over if town is lynched.

Me trying to get shot before lylo makes sense, also is a play that I think would give me good points. You trying to get shot doesnt make sense. You are the best player in this game.

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

January 22 2017 20:03 GMT

#1616

On January 23 2017 04:57 Holyflare wrote:
Onegu, you need to prove to BM that I do this fake claim as mafia by outlining where in my history of mafia games that I have fake claimed or fake cc'd anything. I guarantee you will find 0 because I do not stick my neck out as mafia like that and make things hazy in the balance. I play a solid game and just win it through yelling.

Fake ccing and fake claiming is my staple town play and you know it onegu. Literally the last lylo we played together we had this EXACTTTTTTTT same conversation and it was so blatantly obviously attributed to my town play.

you didnt fake claim or fake cc in GIF. What game are you talking about?

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