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ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 18:44 GMT
#1481
On January 14 2017 03:11 darthfoley wrote:
dude i wrote an entire case on you, I don't have anything else to say lol.

It's just funny how you were mad at Grack and ME for losing motivation and losing their patience, and now the shoe is on the other foot and you're holier than thou about it


i never bitched about grack losing motivation. i complained more about his stubboness about not elaborating on his town read if anythign else. ME did nothing but complain and be angry constantly and then got himself mod killed.

theres a lot of stuff i would love to sit here and rant about but again: i dont care nor is this the place to say it

im not really holiering about it like you are making it out to be. Ive merely said i have been tired and busy.

ive been trying to figure out who is the scum on the wagon but im met with: "your reasons suck"

i mean calix self admits to not playing lylos vs me whos been in about 20-30 of these stupid ass things abd complains im doing it badly.

the thing is everyone is already auto-piolet bos and not (FMPOV) looking at the very people on the wagon and more or less are saying "well hes double bussed or not" which basically everyone is saying "all town wagon GG"

so what am i to do? you isoed and cased me so you know i care little to logic and progressions and crap so i already take it im not convincing anyone. why do effort that does nothing?
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 18:49 GMT
#1482
On January 14 2017 03:34 Damdred wrote:
Just show us why the others are scum ika you are like the third lynch right now....its not like everyone is sold exactly just explain why calix or darth are scum.


here the thing, i rather let scums decide it for me.

lets say i case player X, player X then dies. My case is moot point.

aslo you can not buddy me. there's a reason why i'm withholding as well. my paranoia will litarly convince myself to think the scum team is something like matt/calix/rep or something absurd

its why i enjoy having SW around to talk to. cus if shes scum i will call her out, if shes town i can work with her to ease my paranoia and have a town core to work with.

i know im third lynch but it doesn't change anything. everyone has an auto-piolet mind right now

(yes im super fuckign tired and have little in the sense of fixing spelling atm)
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 19:09 GMT
#1487
On January 14 2017 03:57 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 03:44 ika42 wrote:
On January 14 2017 03:11 darthfoley wrote:
dude i wrote an entire case on you, I don't have anything else to say lol.

It's just funny how you were mad at Grack and ME for losing motivation and losing their patience, and now the shoe is on the other foot and you're holier than thou about it


i never bitched about grack losing motivation. i complained more about his stubboness about not elaborating on his town read if anythign else. ME did nothing but complain and be angry constantly and then got himself mod killed.

theres a lot of stuff i would love to sit here and rant about but again: i dont care nor is this the place to say it

im not really holiering about it like you are making it out to be. Ive merely said i have been tired and busy.

ive been trying to figure out who is the scum on the wagon but im met with: "your reasons suck"

i mean calix self admits to not playing lylos vs me whos been in about 20-30 of these stupid ass things abd complains im doing it badly.

the thing is everyone is already auto-piolet bos and not (FMPOV) looking at the very people on the wagon and more or less are saying "well hes double bussed or not" which basically everyone is saying "all town wagon GG"

so what am i to do? you isoed and cased me so you know i care little to logic and progressions and crap so i already take it im not convincing anyone. why do effort that does nothing?


So how are people supposed to town read you if you don't "care" for logic and read progressions?


well:
does my mindset come from town or scum?
was SW suspecting me at time of death?
whats my intent?
am i consitent in my posting or not (hint more times im not)

now before you even respond i know some of them are "oh thats meat its WIFOM" so plz don't even bring it up that it is. if you want to talk to me im all ears. im just tired so my patience is thin. if theres any of the "WIFOM" arguments im just gonna go.
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 19:12 GMT
#1490
On January 14 2017 04:11 darthfoley wrote:
Why are you acting like the only motivation behind killing SW would've been her read on you?


name a different motivation. i've named several others but all ive been told is that im wrong
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 19:13 GMT
#1491
On January 14 2017 04:10 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 03:54 Damdred wrote:
I'm not buddyign you i'm trying to actually get you to play instead of tilting over nothing.

there is roughly 5 hours before the lynch happens if you don't think b0ston is scum nows not the time to hold back when you know we lose if hes town?

I think Squishy is mafia and I think B0ston is mafia. Am I wrong on either and why exactly?


Yeah I don't get what the point is with limping into the thread and saying that we're auto-pilot on Boston and reps (who he doesn't scum-read) without doing anything to change anyone's mind.


so i should afk instead?
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 19:17 GMT
#1495
On January 14 2017 04:04 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2017 21:18 ika42 wrote:
Finally off overnights till Sunday.

I briefly read up and I'm gonna address the quick thing that I saw that calix mentioned

Calix, you yourself has said you have played very little in the mylo/mylo (cus you did so much) I have played more then I can enjoy so seeing how votes are not locked and there's no majority I am considering all options right now. I mean if bos is town, gg.

If he's scum it's clear someone is bussing cus we have a 4v3 situation and you have to realize yourself that not everyone voting can be town at this point. So I'm scum hunting for the person who is bussing. That includes you


Why are you talking to me like you think I'm town? You've been saying "Calix is scum" for most of the game but the last line looks like you're legitimately trying to convince me that you're really scum-hunting and shit.

Speaking of which, how the hell have you been scum-hunting today? Arguing with me doesn't count, lol.


ive had you between null and scum most of the game.

arguing with you is how i have been scum hunting you. the rest of the time i have been busy.

do i consider you possible town? yes
am i sold on you being town? no

you again, have said "never dont lylo/mylo" how you do it (or at least how i do it) is i scratch all my reads, read the most trusted dead person (or jsut the last nk) and go form there

most times votes would end on majority so without that its diffrent cus you dont have the basic "1v1" each time.
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 19:22 GMT
#1503
On January 14 2017 04:15 darthfoley wrote:
Dude you haven't even tried to explain your reasoning behind your scum reads. As Damdred said, if you think Calix is scum, please explain why. The game will continue if we're right about B0ston and it will end if we're wrong so please give a shit?


here the thing, to get any other lynch we need bos in event hes town otherwise he will:

A)be modkilled
B) replaced and still be the scummiest slot

as for explanations: guts and meta and trusting SW.

calix can shit on the dead all she like, it does not change that they are town and thir ideas and thoughts come form a towns mind. thats why i vaule her reads over mine, shes a better player then i cna veer be
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 19:24 GMT
#1504
On January 14 2017 04:17 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 04:12 ika42 wrote:
On January 14 2017 04:11 darthfoley wrote:
Why are you acting like the only motivation behind killing SW would've been her read on you?


name a different motivation. i've named several others but all ive been told is that im wrong


1. She was literally universally townread; basically she was like Kmatt but without the role so she was never gonna MLK
2. Her inquisitive questions towards other people might've scared scum



1) she had 2 towns voting her at EOD. not really "universally town read"
2) already gave that idea out on the "she was narrowing the scum pool of who it was"
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 19:26 GMT
#1508
On January 14 2017 04:20 Damdred wrote:
How about this ika.

I don't think DarthFoley would take so much of his time (while a lynch is secure) to try to get reads or reactions/reasoning from you as scum.

Do you disagree or agree with this statement and why?


yes. if theres anythingn that makes me more paranoid then ever is when someoen does this kind of stuff or makes this kind of reasonsing

i cant even begin to count the number of games scums have used the "well treat him like town and work with him" meathod to try to manipulate me.

this is why i just want the god damned day to be over, im paranoid about fucking everything and i have nobody i can trust to tlak ot
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 19:27 GMT
#1510
On January 14 2017 04:25 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 04:22 ika42 wrote:
On January 14 2017 04:15 darthfoley wrote:
Dude you haven't even tried to explain your reasoning behind your scum reads. As Damdred said, if you think Calix is scum, please explain why. The game will continue if we're right about B0ston and it will end if we're wrong so please give a shit?


here the thing, to get any other lynch we need bos in event hes town otherwise he will:

A)be modkilled
B) replaced and still be the scummiest slot

as for explanations: guts and meta and trusting SW.

calix can shit on the dead all she like, it does not change that they are town and thir ideas and thoughts come form a towns mind. thats why i vaule her reads over mine, shes a better player then i cna veer be


I see a glimmer of a valid point here with your first line if you're arguing what I think you're arguing.


go ahead and say it, im too tired to try to see if this mirrors the reason im thinking
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 19:29 GMT
#1511
On January 14 2017 04:27 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 04:24 ika42 wrote:
On January 14 2017 04:17 darthfoley wrote:
On January 14 2017 04:12 ika42 wrote:
On January 14 2017 04:11 darthfoley wrote:
Why are you acting like the only motivation behind killing SW would've been her read on you?


name a different motivation. i've named several others but all ive been told is that im wrong


1. She was literally universally townread; basically she was like Kmatt but without the role so she was never gonna MLK
2. Her inquisitive questions towards other people might've scared scum



1) she had 2 towns voting her at EOD. not really "universally town read"
2) already gave that idea out on the "she was narrowing the scum pool of who it was"


Both towns were dead by the time the kill happened, and one of the town voting on her was lynched. So your first point is kinda a non point all alive players were town reading SK basically.

While I appreciate teh sentiment about peoples reads beig better she never really finished her reads list we just have three people thrown out asked if someone else liked the team. The thread can't really know where she was going with it really.



On January 14 2017 04:25 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 04:24 ika42 wrote:
On January 14 2017 04:17 darthfoley wrote:
On January 14 2017 04:12 ika42 wrote:
On January 14 2017 04:11 darthfoley wrote:
Why are you acting like the only motivation behind killing SW would've been her read on you?


name a different motivation. i've named several others but all ive been told is that im wrong


1. She was literally universally townread; basically she was like Kmatt but without the role so she was never gonna MLK
2. Her inquisitive questions towards other people might've scared scum



1) she had 2 towns voting her at EOD. not really "universally town read"
2) already gave that idea out on the "she was narrowing the scum pool of who it was"


ME's vote was pure salt, and as we know btdt didn't know what the hell he was doing this game


both of these do not change the point they were town nor does it change that she had votes on her.

i mean if you really want to make the argument about it, matt is confirmed town and he didnt die. so it leads to one or more of the reasons that have beens tated. i dont get why all the reasons have to be exclusive to each other
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 19:29 GMT
#1513
On January 14 2017 04:27 ika42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 04:25 Calix wrote:
On January 14 2017 04:22 ika42 wrote:
On January 14 2017 04:15 darthfoley wrote:
Dude you haven't even tried to explain your reasoning behind your scum reads. As Damdred said, if you think Calix is scum, please explain why. The game will continue if we're right about B0ston and it will end if we're wrong so please give a shit?


here the thing, to get any other lynch we need bos in event hes town otherwise he will:

A)be modkilled
B) replaced and still be the scummiest slot

as for explanations: guts and meta and trusting SW.

calix can shit on the dead all she like, it does not change that they are town and thir ideas and thoughts come form a towns mind. thats why i vaule her reads over mine, shes a better player then i cna veer be


I see a glimmer of a valid point here with your first line if you're arguing what I think you're arguing.


go ahead and say it, im too tired to try to see if this mirrors the reason im thinking


know what nvm. dont say it i should be back before eod but ill say before i go (in like 15 mins)
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 19:31 GMT
#1516
On January 14 2017 04:29 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 04:26 ika42 wrote:
On January 14 2017 04:20 Damdred wrote:
How about this ika.

I don't think DarthFoley would take so much of his time (while a lynch is secure) to try to get reads or reactions/reasoning from you as scum.

Do you disagree or agree with this statement and why?


yes. if theres anythingn that makes me more paranoid then ever is when someoen does this kind of stuff or makes this kind of reasonsing

i cant even begin to count the number of games scums have used the "well treat him like town and work with him" meathod to try to manipulate me.

this is why i just want the god damned day to be over, im paranoid about fucking everything and i have nobody i can trust to tlak ot


If you think B0ston is town (which you still haven't answered yet) then it doesn't matter and he should just fuck off as the game is over at this point.

Darths other scum games though don't really even remotely look like doing things to make myself look good when I don't have to but meh. That part really isn't important, and honestly theres probably three easy town reads in the thread in my mind so just need to make the effort.


i thought i made it clear: i think hes scum and that scum(s) are bussing him

the literal fact hes afk makes the point moot
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 19:32 GMT
#1518
On January 14 2017 04:30 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 04:27 ika42 wrote:
On January 14 2017 04:25 Calix wrote:
On January 14 2017 04:22 ika42 wrote:
On January 14 2017 04:15 darthfoley wrote:
Dude you haven't even tried to explain your reasoning behind your scum reads. As Damdred said, if you think Calix is scum, please explain why. The game will continue if we're right about B0ston and it will end if we're wrong so please give a shit?


here the thing, to get any other lynch we need bos in event hes town otherwise he will:

A)be modkilled
B) replaced and still be the scummiest slot

as for explanations: guts and meta and trusting SW.

calix can shit on the dead all she like, it does not change that they are town and thir ideas and thoughts come form a towns mind. thats why i vaule her reads over mine, shes a better player then i cna veer be


I see a glimmer of a valid point here with your first line if you're arguing what I think you're arguing.


go ahead and say it, im too tired to try to see if this mirrors the reason im thinking


What I got out of that was that you are put at a disadvantage with trying to lynch anyone else because if Boston is town then you have one less town vote to stack on your scum-reads.

Although I'm not sure why you wouldn't be voting Onegu if that was the case so idk.


its more then jsut that. its the literal fact that without him scum can win jsut by leaving him alive. if he gets modkilled then thats game

if he gets replaced. we have to deal with a player who has a slot thats been scummy as fuck.
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 19:34 GMT
#1519
On January 14 2017 04:32 Calix wrote:
Wait, I thought your scum team was Onegu/ Calix/ DF. What changed?


im gonna say this once as calmly as possible cus im about to reach overtilt: i have no clue who the scum team is at this point and until the bos lynch is done i don't feel like trying to make worlds out of it

ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 19:41 GMT
#1523
ive made my vote.

5 people on the wagon says enough to me thats its scum driven wagon for sure
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 19:53 GMT
#1526
On January 14 2017 04:49 Damdred wrote:
I'm unsure how its a scum driven wagon exactly when (if your town) only one person on it is probably scum (squish and b0Ston the scum in this situation)

Unless you really think we have lost the game tbh.


why does rep have to be scum in this situation?

you narrow the outlook to "only situation X can exist" yes it will look improbable. lylo/mylo is when you need to have more then jsut one outlook, you need to look at the game form every angle possible
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 19:54 GMT
#1527
anyways. gtg take sw bbl
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 21:30 GMT
#1535
On January 14 2017 05:15 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 05:10 Kmatt wrote:
Isn't that even less of a reason to care? If I'm RIP in paskettios I can't vote tomorrow can I? If the dead could vote you'd better believe they'd have put FDR back in.If anything my shitposting is the only thing keeping me alive.

Past B0ston (assuming he flips red) I could see Ika filling that slot, as it fits both my tinfoil theories (that between Ika/SW one of them is scum leading the other on and that despite all the AFKs at least one mafia is actively playing for towncred). There's also the easy vote in reps(, but easy votes have been nothing but ML so far.


Right, if you don't care about the state of the game and want to be lazy, that's fair I guess. But knowing that your reads are pure of mafia agenda, it would be nice for you to care a little bit.


scum much?
ika42
Profile Joined January 2017
260 Posts
January 13 2017 21:48 GMT
#1540
On January 14 2017 06:40 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 06:30 ika42 wrote:
On January 14 2017 05:15 darthfoley wrote:
On January 14 2017 05:10 Kmatt wrote:
Isn't that even less of a reason to care? If I'm RIP in paskettios I can't vote tomorrow can I? If the dead could vote you'd better believe they'd have put FDR back in.If anything my shitposting is the only thing keeping me alive.

Past B0ston (assuming he flips red) I could see Ika filling that slot, as it fits both my tinfoil theories (that between Ika/SW one of them is scum leading the other on and that despite all the AFKs at least one mafia is actively playing for towncred). There's also the easy vote in reps(, but easy votes have been nothing but ML so far.


Right, if you don't care about the state of the game and want to be lazy, that's fair I guess. But knowing that your reads are pure of mafia agenda, it would be nice for you to care a little bit.


scum much?


What?


nothing i misread.

im taking a nap
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