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On December 20 2016 02:29 Kmatt wrote:
Can't really quote because mobile but here goes.
As someone said earlier, my initial jab at Exo was more testing the water than anything. His overreaction is the basis of my current read.
Disinformation didn't rebuke my case in any meaningful way. He just interpreted your post differently, and there was nothing odd or unreasonable about it. If he claimed that my current read is baseless, started pointing fingers without a case or spouted expletives I would have reason to suspect him. At the moment I don't.
It looks like Exo is digging this hole deeper with every refresh so I would need a substantial new case to take my vote off of him.
your initial jab against me was an immediate OMGUS. That's not really testing the waters imo. I hadn't even been in the thread for more than 5 minutes, and you're accusing me of posting to not be considered inactive.
how in the world is that testing the waters? You don't think immediately voting me might force me to turn and focus only on you instead of looking at the thread? You didn't ask me what I thought about X or Y, you just voted me immediately.
That's not testing the wawters.
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Exo_, you're a work in progress my friend.
Disformation has posted after yes. I didn't ask you to retroactively fix your statements to koshi and kmart. I'm saying you should have updated your present read by now but haven't.
Disformation skating by, not getting involved and avoiding you is everything you said a mafia would do. This should further your resolve on kmart and koshi but you're stuck in an explanation of a read. You acknowledge disfo has posted since, he meets your explanation of mafia and nada.
I'm gonna stop pushing you because clearly this pressure is overwhelming you and I'll give you a fighting chance champ. It's what you deserve for being a good sport.
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On December 20 2016 01:50 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 01:20 LightningStrike wrote:
I honestly still a little confused on Kmatt regarding his sicklucker comment which I did press him on but didn't gain much on except talking about mechanics. I don't got a big conclusion on him yet as he hasn't posted much would like to see how he interacts with ExO and others atm before I make a judgement call. You've really improved. I think kmatt's points on sicklucker were a bit of a weird leap to make and there's a bit too much explanation of sl being town. It just seemed weird in general tbh. Then after nothing he just voted exo based on exo's little bit of a comment and I found that more weird. Pretty sure the dude is new and that's just a bit of a too aggressive leap for someone trying to figure things out. I'd maybe expect that from a vet instead. ##unvote
##vote kmattFwiw I still think a vote on disformation is excellent. He just returned and didn't weigh into much and then did a mini bad summary. 2 mafia down, easy game. It's nice to be good again.
It is a weird leap which is why I was pressuring him on it like I said it went to mechanics talk but likely my fault on having lead that way. Anyways I seem fine with Koshi although a bit odd opening from him but I think he just trying something new.
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On December 20 2016 02:08 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 02:02 Koshi wrote:On December 20 2016 01:59 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 01:57 Koshi wrote:On December 20 2016 01:54 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 01:49 Koshi wrote:
Feels like you are playing a game against this thread Exo.
Kmatt buddying
Disinfo defending
Koshi also mafia?
It's weird I don't think disinfo is scum, I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious. O rly? Can you explain why? I don't have a fucking reason to think he's scum yet. Especially when kmatt is over here omgusing me at the first thing I say and you are defending him like crazy. Do I already need to have a 5 page analysis on why I think every player is town? I'm not going to operate from the assumption that everyone is scum, that's fucking retarded. I'll scum read someone when I have a reason to think they are scum You are focussing on the wrong part of that sentence. I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious. Why? Goddamn each refresh is a new red alert from my virusthingie. If you think I'm a scum: Kmatt comes into the thread and votes me. Disinfo basically brushes off the case saying I'm not a morning person and tries to redirect the conversation elsewhere. If you think I'm scum, why are you both ignoring disinfo doing this? Either you (and kmatt) don't really think I'm scum, or are ignoring disinfo here for some reason I cannot fathom. your turn Why aren't you scum reading him if you think I'm scum? [/b][/b]
I don't have strong feeling about anybody at all atm. I just poke around a bit.
Disformation his morning joke was because you were so angry for seemingly no reason. That was never ever an attempt to redirect pressure of you.
Ugh. I have such a difficult time understanding your thought process here. Not only did you think we were hard scumreading you, you also think we should have association read somebody else scummy for defending you. That is so farfetched...
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On December 20 2016 02:42 Holyflare wrote:
Exo_, you're a work in progress my friend.
Disformation has posted after yes. I didn't ask you to retroactively fix your statements to koshi and kmart. I'm saying you should have updated your present read by now but haven't.
Disformation skating by, not getting involved and avoiding you is everything you said a mafia would do. This should further your resolve on kmart and koshi but you're stuck in an explanation of a read. You acknowledge disfo has posted since, he meets your explanation of mafia and nada.
I'm gonna stop pushing you because clearly this pressure is overwhelming you and I'll give you a fighting chance champ. It's what you deserve for being a good sport.
I find your attempt to re-tilt me with:
"I'm gonna stop pushing you because clearly this pressure is overwhelming you and I'll give you a fighting chance champ. It's what you deserve for being a good sport"
to be very telling. Tell me why would you throw in that phrase like that
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Also ExO if you are town you should clam down bro like maybe step away from the thread for a little a bit then come back with a calm mind set. If you are scum then well we caught you.
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On December 20 2016 02:45 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 02:08 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 02:02 Koshi wrote:On December 20 2016 01:59 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 01:57 Koshi wrote:On December 20 2016 01:54 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 01:49 Koshi wrote:
Feels like you are playing a game against this thread Exo.
Kmatt buddying
Disinfo defending
Koshi also mafia?
It's weird I don't think disinfo is scum, I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious. O rly? Can you explain why? I don't have a fucking reason to think he's scum yet. Especially when kmatt is over here omgusing me at the first thing I say and you are defending him like crazy. Do I already need to have a 5 page analysis on why I think every player is town? I'm not going to operate from the assumption that everyone is scum, that's fucking retarded. I'll scum read someone when I have a reason to think they are scum You are focussing on the wrong part of that sentence. I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious. Why? Goddamn each refresh is a new red alert from my virusthingie. If you think I'm a scum: Kmatt comes into the thread and votes me. Disinfo basically brushes off the case saying I'm not a morning person and tries to redirect the conversation elsewhere. If you think I'm scum, why are you both ignoring disinfo doing this? Either you (and kmatt) don't really think I'm scum, or are ignoring disinfo here for some reason I cannot fathom. your turn Why aren't you scum reading him if you think I'm scum? I don't have strong feeling about anybody at all atm. I just poke around a bit. Disformation his morning joke was because you were so angry for seemingly no reason. That was never ever an attempt to redirect pressure of you. Ugh. I have such a difficult time understanding your thought process here. Not only did you think we were hard scumreading you, you also think we should have association read somebody else scummy for defending you. That is so farfetched... [/b][/b]
He voted me, and you said you were going to vote me.
I'll be sure to take that as town-leaning scum reads, instead of actual scum reads, in the future.
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On December 20 2016 02:46 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 02:42 Holyflare wrote:
Exo_, you're a work in progress my friend.
Disformation has posted after yes. I didn't ask you to retroactively fix your statements to koshi and kmart. I'm saying you should have updated your present read by now but haven't.
Disformation skating by, not getting involved and avoiding you is everything you said a mafia would do. This should further your resolve on kmart and koshi but you're stuck in an explanation of a read. You acknowledge disfo has posted since, he meets your explanation of mafia and nada.
I'm gonna stop pushing you because clearly this pressure is overwhelming you and I'll give you a fighting chance champ. It's what you deserve for being a good sport. I find your attempt to re-tilt me with: "I'm gonna stop pushing you because clearly this pressure is overwhelming you and I'll give you a fighting chance champ. It's what you deserve for being a good sport" to be very telling. Tell me why would you throw in that phrase like that
To belittle your sense of worth as the game progresses so that come deadline you'll be a broken husk and just sheep my intelligent reads instead of being a wild card that gets angry at anything. Or make you tilt further as mafia.
Win/win.
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Disfo you gonna take a stance now he's had his temper tantrum?
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On December 20 2016 02:42 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 02:29 Kmatt wrote:
Can't really quote because mobile but here goes.
As someone said earlier, my initial jab at Exo was more testing the water than anything. His overreaction is the basis of my current read.
Disinformation didn't rebuke my case in any meaningful way. He just interpreted your post differently, and there was nothing odd or unreasonable about it. If he claimed that my current read is baseless, started pointing fingers without a case or spouted expletives I would have reason to suspect him. At the moment I don't.
It looks like Exo is digging this hole deeper with every refresh so I would need a substantial new case to take my vote off of him.
your initial jab against me was an immediate OMGUS. That's not really testing the waters imo. I hadn't even been in the thread for more than 5 minutes, and you're accusing me of posting to not be considered inactive. how in the world is that testing the waters? You don't think immediately voting me might force me to turn and focus only on you instead of looking at the thread? You didn't ask me what I thought about X or Y, you just voted me immediately. That's not testing the wawters.
If by OMGUS you mean Oh My God You Suck, which according to the Internet would be me accusing you of being scum simply because you voted for me. Firstly, I called on your first, and every post since then has been super reactionary. Secondly, me voting you on a thin premise was in fact pushing buttons to gauge your response. Looks to me like it worked.
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On December 20 2016 02:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Also ExO if you are town you should clam down bro like maybe step away from the thread for a little a bit then come back with a calm mind set. If you are scum then well we caught you.
If I'm scum you caught me what exactly?
This is how I play. The first few times I played on TL I tried to think really carefully about posts before I said anything, and It didn't go so well. Since then I basically play stream-of-consciousness style.
Look at my most recent games, particularly touhou mafia where as VT I'm lynched day 1. Then compare that to dota mafia where I'm scum, and tell me I'm playing the same way.
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On December 20 2016 02:50 Kmatt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 02:42 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 02:29 Kmatt wrote:
Can't really quote because mobile but here goes.
As someone said earlier, my initial jab at Exo was more testing the water than anything. His overreaction is the basis of my current read.
Disinformation didn't rebuke my case in any meaningful way. He just interpreted your post differently, and there was nothing odd or unreasonable about it. If he claimed that my current read is baseless, started pointing fingers without a case or spouted expletives I would have reason to suspect him. At the moment I don't.
It looks like Exo is digging this hole deeper with every refresh so I would need a substantial new case to take my vote off of him.
your initial jab against me was an immediate OMGUS. That's not really testing the waters imo. I hadn't even been in the thread for more than 5 minutes, and you're accusing me of posting to not be considered inactive. how in the world is that testing the waters? You don't think immediately voting me might force me to turn and focus only on you instead of looking at the thread? You didn't ask me what I thought about X or Y, you just voted me immediately. That's not testing the wawters. If by OMGUS you mean Oh My God You Suck, which according to the Internet would be me accusing you of being scum simply because you voted for me. Firstly, I called on your first, and every post since then has been super reactionary. Secondly, me voting you on a thin premise was in fact pushing buttons to gauge your response. Looks to me like it worked.
Why would you specifically want to gauge exo's response instead of anyone in the thread when all he did was comment on one thing?
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On December 20 2016 02:48 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 02:46 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 02:42 Holyflare wrote:
Exo_, you're a work in progress my friend.
Disformation has posted after yes. I didn't ask you to retroactively fix your statements to koshi and kmart. I'm saying you should have updated your present read by now but haven't.
Disformation skating by, not getting involved and avoiding you is everything you said a mafia would do. This should further your resolve on kmart and koshi but you're stuck in an explanation of a read. You acknowledge disfo has posted since, he meets your explanation of mafia and nada.
I'm gonna stop pushing you because clearly this pressure is overwhelming you and I'll give you a fighting chance champ. It's what you deserve for being a good sport. I find your attempt to re-tilt me with: "I'm gonna stop pushing you because clearly this pressure is overwhelming you and I'll give you a fighting chance champ. It's what you deserve for being a good sport" to be very telling. Tell me why would you throw in that phrase like that To belittle your sense of worth as the game progresses so that come deadline you'll be a broken husk and just sheep my intelligent reads instead of being a wild card that gets angry at anything. Or make you tilt further as mafia. Win/win.
Well you can go fuck off
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On December 20 2016 02:51 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 02:48 Holyflare wrote:On December 20 2016 02:46 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 02:42 Holyflare wrote:
Exo_, you're a work in progress my friend.
Disformation has posted after yes. I didn't ask you to retroactively fix your statements to koshi and kmart. I'm saying you should have updated your present read by now but haven't.
Disformation skating by, not getting involved and avoiding you is everything you said a mafia would do. This should further your resolve on kmart and koshi but you're stuck in an explanation of a read. You acknowledge disfo has posted since, he meets your explanation of mafia and nada.
I'm gonna stop pushing you because clearly this pressure is overwhelming you and I'll give you a fighting chance champ. It's what you deserve for being a good sport. I find your attempt to re-tilt me with: "I'm gonna stop pushing you because clearly this pressure is overwhelming you and I'll give you a fighting chance champ. It's what you deserve for being a good sport" to be very telling. Tell me why would you throw in that phrase like that To belittle your sense of worth as the game progresses so that come deadline you'll be a broken husk and just sheep my intelligent reads instead of being a wild card that gets angry at anything. Or make you tilt further as mafia. Win/win. Well you can go fuck off
Or maybe I'm mafia tilting you?
Naaahhhhh
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On December 20 2016 02:49 Holyflare wrote:
Disfo you gonna take a stance now he's had his temper tantrum?
maybe. ask again after dinner.
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On December 20 2016 02:47 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 02:45 Koshi wrote:On December 20 2016 02:08 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 02:02 Koshi wrote:On December 20 2016 01:59 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 01:57 Koshi wrote:On December 20 2016 01:54 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 01:49 Koshi wrote:
Feels like you are playing a game against this thread Exo.
Kmatt buddying
Disinfo defending
Koshi also mafia?
It's weird I don't think disinfo is scum, I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious. O rly? Can you explain why? I don't have a fucking reason to think he's scum yet. Especially when kmatt is over here omgusing me at the first thing I say and you are defending him like crazy. Do I already need to have a 5 page analysis on why I think every player is town? I'm not going to operate from the assumption that everyone is scum, that's fucking retarded. I'll scum read someone when I have a reason to think they are scum You are focussing on the wrong part of that sentence. I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious. Why? Goddamn each refresh is a new red alert from my virusthingie. If you think I'm a scum: Kmatt comes into the thread and votes me. Disinfo basically brushes off the case saying I'm not a morning person and tries to redirect the conversation elsewhere. If you think I'm scum, why are you both ignoring disinfo doing this? Either you (and kmatt) don't really think I'm scum, or are ignoring disinfo here for some reason I cannot fathom. your turn Why aren't you scum reading him if you think I'm scum? I don't have strong feeling about anybody at all atm. I just poke around a bit. Disformation his morning joke was because you were so angry for seemingly no reason. That was never ever an attempt to redirect pressure of you. Ugh. I have such a difficult time understanding your thought process here. Not only did you think we were hard scumreading you, you also think we should have association read somebody else scummy for defending you. That is so farfetched... He voted me, and you said you were going to vote me. I'll be sure to take that as town-leaning scum reads, instead of actual scum reads, in the future.
Because I said I would and am home now.
##unvote
##vote Exo
Yes I was voting people to get the ball rolling and if the ball didn't roll I would still be ok with my vote.
HF was correct, I voted you because you came in with the wrong emotions and I wanted to pressure you to see if you were mafia. I will have to reread the last 2-4 pages to see what you exactly replied and reconsider if you are really mafia.
You came in aggressive and I used that against you to see if I could get an easy townread. I don't think that happened but like I said. Need to reread.
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On December 20 2016 02:51 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 02:50 Kmatt wrote:On December 20 2016 02:42 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 02:29 Kmatt wrote:
Can't really quote because mobile but here goes.
As someone said earlier, my initial jab at Exo was more testing the water than anything. His overreaction is the basis of my current read.
Disinformation didn't rebuke my case in any meaningful way. He just interpreted your post differently, and there was nothing odd or unreasonable about it. If he claimed that my current read is baseless, started pointing fingers without a case or spouted expletives I would have reason to suspect him. At the moment I don't.
It looks like Exo is digging this hole deeper with every refresh so I would need a substantial new case to take my vote off of him.
your initial jab against me was an immediate OMGUS. That's not really testing the waters imo. I hadn't even been in the thread for more than 5 minutes, and you're accusing me of posting to not be considered inactive. how in the world is that testing the waters? You don't think immediately voting me might force me to turn and focus only on you instead of looking at the thread? You didn't ask me what I thought about X or Y, you just voted me immediately. That's not testing the wawters. If by OMGUS you mean Oh My God You Suck, which according to the Internet would be me accusing you of being scum simply because you voted for me. Firstly, I called on your first, and every post since then has been super reactionary. Secondly, me voting you on a thin premise was in fact pushing buttons to gauge your response. Looks to me like it worked. Why would you specifically want to gauge exo's response instead of anyone in the thread when all he did was comment on one thing?
I couldn't come up with anything on the posts so far so I just took a shot at what appeared to be low hanging fruit. I would have eased off or even dropped it had Exo brushed off my obviously weak call and went about posting sound reads and questions, but instead we got this.
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having the problem that I dont think anyone is particular scummy atm.
somewhat iffy about hf, but super biased here. just think his earlier reasons to sr read me where really reaching and lukewarm. most recent ones are decent though.
exo is not looking hot at all, but I want so see him calm down a bit and post some legit reads.
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On December 20 2016 02:41 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 02:35 Kmatt wrote:
Actually HFs bit about mafia skating by makes sense. Still standing by that Exo is scummy. yeah, it is the first actual/decent point HF has made on me. :D
Because the Exo wagon is not the cool kids wagon anymore I am voting this guy.
##unvote
##vote disformation
I don't think he replied to HF his point when he made it initially. Replying here is a bit off maybe.
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On December 20 2016 02:59 Kmatt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 02:51 Holyflare wrote:On December 20 2016 02:50 Kmatt wrote:On December 20 2016 02:42 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 02:29 Kmatt wrote:
Can't really quote because mobile but here goes.
As someone said earlier, my initial jab at Exo was more testing the water than anything. His overreaction is the basis of my current read.
Disinformation didn't rebuke my case in any meaningful way. He just interpreted your post differently, and there was nothing odd or unreasonable about it. If he claimed that my current read is baseless, started pointing fingers without a case or spouted expletives I would have reason to suspect him. At the moment I don't.
It looks like Exo is digging this hole deeper with every refresh so I would need a substantial new case to take my vote off of him.
your initial jab against me was an immediate OMGUS. That's not really testing the waters imo. I hadn't even been in the thread for more than 5 minutes, and you're accusing me of posting to not be considered inactive. how in the world is that testing the waters? You don't think immediately voting me might force me to turn and focus only on you instead of looking at the thread? You didn't ask me what I thought about X or Y, you just voted me immediately. That's not testing the wawters. If by OMGUS you mean Oh My God You Suck, which according to the Internet would be me accusing you of being scum simply because you voted for me. Firstly, I called on your first, and every post since then has been super reactionary. Secondly, me voting you on a thin premise was in fact pushing buttons to gauge your response. Looks to me like it worked. Why would you specifically want to gauge exo's response instead of anyone in the thread when all he did was comment on one thing? I couldn't come up with anything on the posts so far so I just took a shot at what appeared to be low hanging fruit. I would have eased off or even dropped it had Exo brushed off my obviously weak call and went about posting sound reads and questions, but instead we got this.
So if your call out was weak and you even misread the intention behind his initial post why is it scummy that he called you out for misrepresenting his post/voting him/pushing him further?
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