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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 18:04 GMT
#181
disfo your filter looks horrible.
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 19 2016 18:05 GMT
#182
On December 20 2016 03:01 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 02:41 disformation wrote:
On December 20 2016 02:35 Kmatt wrote:
Actually HFs bit about mafia skating by makes sense. Still standing by that Exo is scummy.

yeah, it is the first actual/decent point HF has made on me. :D

Because the Exo wagon is not the cool kids wagon anymore I am voting this guy.

##unvote
##vote disformation


I don't think he replied to HF his point when he made it initially. Replying here is a bit off maybe.

huh? his intial reasons to SR meh were super meh and he just posted the newer/decent ones, when Kmatt replied to it.

if its you and HF, can you guys kill me n1 again? :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 19 2016 18:07 GMT
#183
On December 20 2016 02:59 disformation wrote:
having the problem that I dont think anyone is particular scummy atm.

somewhat iffy about hf, but super biased here. just think his earlier reasons to sr read me where really reaching and lukewarm. most recent ones are decent though.

exo is not looking hot at all, but I want so see him calm down a bit and post some legit reads.


Never UnluckyPerson was signed in when posted
12-12-2016
03:01 PM ET (US)
"Your case on me is good, but I'm town :/" is becoming a meme


/m9 dont think HF really did make a fuss. think he skimmed the game and pointed out the first thing he saw and didn't like. which he is perfectly capable of as either alignment. so pretty null so far.


ruh rohhhh disfo, you're looking worse and worse my friend
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 18:08 GMT
#184
On December 20 2016 03:05 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 03:01 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 02:41 disformation wrote:
On December 20 2016 02:35 Kmatt wrote:
Actually HFs bit about mafia skating by makes sense. Still standing by that Exo is scummy.

yeah, it is the first actual/decent point HF has made on me. :D

Because the Exo wagon is not the cool kids wagon anymore I am voting this guy.

##unvote
##vote disformation


I don't think he replied to HF his point when he made it initially. Replying here is a bit off maybe.

huh? his intial reasons to SR meh were super meh and he just posted the newer/decent ones, when Kmatt replied to it.

if its you and HF, can you guys kill me n1 again? :D

:D

+ Show Spoiler +
completely not funny though. 1) I think HF is playing pretty well atm and 2) I can't imagine why somebody would think I am mafia atm.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 19 2016 18:10 GMT
#185
You know I just vote whoever to fish for reactions and sometimes make up things. You KNOW this. I think it's super terrible that you're "iffy" on me when all I've done so far are:

Do what I do every game which you acknowledge by being coached by me/in the last game's QT.
Make "decent" points on you.
Push someone for overreacting that you agreed was overreacting.
Ask intelligent questions to those people.

I don't think that makes me iffy in the slightest and I have trouble seeing how you can agree with the points on you and still call me iffy for making good points.

+ Show Spoiler +
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 19 2016 18:11 GMT
#186
On December 20 2016 03:01 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 02:59 Kmatt wrote:
On December 20 2016 02:51 Holyflare wrote:
On December 20 2016 02:50 Kmatt wrote:
On December 20 2016 02:42 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 02:29 Kmatt wrote:
Can't really quote because mobile but here goes.

As someone said earlier, my initial jab at Exo was more testing the water than anything. His overreaction is the basis of my current read.

Disinformation didn't rebuke my case in any meaningful way. He just interpreted your post differently, and there was nothing odd or unreasonable about it. If he claimed that my current read is baseless, started pointing fingers without a case or spouted expletives I would have reason to suspect him. At the moment I don't.

It looks like Exo is digging this hole deeper with every refresh so I would need a substantial new case to take my vote off of him.


your initial jab against me was an immediate OMGUS. That's not really testing the waters imo. I hadn't even been in the thread for more than 5 minutes, and you're accusing me of posting to not be considered inactive.

how in the world is that testing the waters? You don't think immediately voting me might force me to turn and focus only on you instead of looking at the thread? You didn't ask me what I thought about X or Y, you just voted me immediately.

That's not testing the wawters.


If by OMGUS you mean Oh My God You Suck, which according to the Internet would be me accusing you of being scum simply because you voted for me. Firstly, I called on your first, and every post since then has been super reactionary. Secondly, me voting you on a thin premise was in fact pushing buttons to gauge your response. Looks to me like it worked.





Why would you specifically want to gauge exo's response instead of anyone in the thread when all he did was comment on one thing?


I couldn't come up with anything on the posts so far so I just took a shot at what appeared to be low hanging fruit. I would have eased off or even dropped it had Exo brushed off my obviously weak call and went about posting sound reads and questions, but instead we got this.


So if your call out was weak and you even misread the intention behind his initial post why is it scummy that he called you out for misrepresenting his post/voting him/pushing him further?


At first I thought the "wish I had a friend" bit was pointless filler text just so he could have a reaponse. Then I thought he implied LS and I were buddying by having and conversation. Even now it seemed silly. I don't think his response was scummy in intent, but the fact that he started going off suspecting multiple people without building a solid case confirmed it for me. He was just too wrapped up with my first comment instead of brushing it off and fishing for real scum. Even now I don't think he has a real case on anyone despite the post count.
We CAN have nice things
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 18:15 GMT
#187
Kmatt don't be disconnected to what is happening right now.
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 19 2016 18:16 GMT
#188
eh. tldr: a) i dont know your alignment b) paranoia since you are SR'ing the only person I know for sure isnt scum.

but yeah I'm probably being an idiot and it is just exo and whoever...
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 19 2016 18:19 GMT
#189
Also, in regards to Disformation's posts:

On December 20 2016 01:07 disformation wrote:
so. now for some great reads.

ExO_ is apparently not a morning person.

you are welcome.



on a more serious note:
on SL:
His opening + kmatt vote is very wifomy. It kinda boils down to: "would he post this kinda stuff as scum" and is as such not very AI.
BUT consider the timing: the thread was super dead at the time he posted that. is scum interested in revitalizing a dead thread by posting controversial/interesting stuff? not really.
so I think it makes him slightly more town than scum.

also like LS interactions with kmat. just want to see some conclusions at some point.


This is the post I heavily disliked, it pretty much boils down to absolutely no read on anyone but a town read on LS which isn't even a real read but an "I like".

The thing that bugs me the most is his SL read, it's like talking himself into reading SL an alignment out loud and in a lecture-y way rather than any kind of intuitive thing. It bugs me a lot. It's like a teacher talking to a class rather than a person thinking for themselves.

Then there's his recent post where he can't scum read anyone but thinks I'm iffy and Exo isn't hot so basically has actual suspicions still that aren't suspicions. I'm still going to wait for this Exo post after his dinner that he will definitely hopefully make maybe though.

On December 20 2016 02:28 disformation wrote:
Reread this twice, but I am getting confused.
@ExO_
Recap your reads please: do you think Kmatt (and to an lesser extend koshi?) are scum/scummy or not?
Who should think who is suspcious/not suspicious?

and yeah I think I would prefer small words n stuff :p


there was also this post directly after exo made a post saying "It's really obvious I scum read kmatt."

he basically sounds like a weird disinterested disformation and it makes me sad/him mafia most likely
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 19 2016 18:22 GMT
#190
i honestly thought my SL read was decent
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 19 2016 18:23 GMT
#191
It's helpful if you're mafia.

Not really if you're town though. I'd relish in free town cred posting when nobody else is.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 19 2016 18:24 GMT
#192
Can you talk about exo yet?
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 19 2016 18:24 GMT
#193
On December 20 2016 03:15 Koshi wrote:
Kmatt don't be disconnected to what is happening right now.


I'm phone posting and it's cold, give me a break.

To be honest I don't like where this is going. Looks like a repeat of my NSM game where I was under scrutiny, NocturneMage questioned me gently before levelling off and got someone else lynched. This sudden interest in disinformation, while justifiable, looks like it has mafia influence.
We CAN have nice things
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 19 2016 18:25 GMT
#194
On December 20 2016 00:06 sicklucker wrote:
kill lightning strike. via night kill preferably

Wtf
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 19 2016 18:26 GMT
#195
On December 20 2016 03:24 Kmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 03:15 Koshi wrote:
Kmatt don't be disconnected to what is happening right now.


I'm phone posting and it's cold, give me a break.

To be honest I don't like where this is going. Looks like a repeat of my NSM game where I was under scrutiny, NocturneMage questioned me gently before levelling off and got someone else lynched. This sudden interest in disinformation, while justifiable, looks like it has mafia influence.



[image loading]

Oh baby.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 19 2016 18:27 GMT
#196
Can you elaborate on this Kmatt? That's a hell of a sentence to write.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 19 2016 18:28 GMT
#197
On December 20 2016 01:07 disformation wrote:
so. now for some great reads.

ExO_ is apparently not a morning person.

you are welcome.



on a more serious note:
on SL:
His opening + kmatt vote is very wifomy. It kinda boils down to: "would he post this kinda stuff as scum" and is as such not very AI.
BUT consider the timing: the thread was super dead at the time he posted that. is scum interested in revitalizing a dead thread by posting controversial/interesting stuff? not really.
so I think it makes him slightly more town than scum.

also like LS interactions with kmat. just want to see some conclusions at some point.

When did SL get this pass to scumclaim?

Why is that kind of shit tolerated what

What is his meta now?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 19 2016 18:29 GMT
#198
wow this feels like 2 years back and playing with rayn.
I had a good night of sleep.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 19 2016 18:29 GMT
#199
On December 20 2016 01:17 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 00:53 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:47 Kmatt wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:42 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:40 Kmatt wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:36 ExO_ wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:31 Kmatt wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:22 Kmatt wrote:
On December 20 2016 00:21 LightningStrike wrote:
[quote]
What your opinion on this Kmatt? Do you think think he was being sarcastic about me or do you think he scumslipped this early or what?


My assumption is that he thinks you're a bad town and wants you gone before you waste a lynch vote.

Honestly if I was a bad town I surprised he would night kill me when he's scum because it would mean he thinks I was a threat on finding his team.


I'm willing to bet that was sarcasm.

SL any input here? I'd rather not have to speak on your behalf when we're in this thread together.


"in this thread together"

I wish I had a buddy in the thread with me


That's a little too opportunistic/innocuous of an entry without contributing to a discussion.

##vote ExO_


speaking of opportunistic voting


Your post was cherry-picking a reply as to not be inactive but still be out of sight for the last 12 hours. Mine is acknowledging low-hanging fruit. And you still aren't questioning/analyzing/posting reads so


Cherry-picking? Are you fucking kidding me?

I just woke up, haven't even rolled out of bed yet. Saying something about a buddy in a game with this few players is a bit interesting don't you think? I'd think no town player is so ready to befriend anybody else as you are with that post. Accusing me of posting to not appear inactive is completely ridiculous. I just got into the thread, just realized the game started.

Don't be so comvatitive. At least the guy is trying to do shit. If he does nothing it is worse for town. So him voting you and rustling your jimmies is propper play at this stage of the game.

Totes +1
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 19 2016 18:30 GMT
#200
Nothing that anyone has said about disinformation seems wrong. He's definitely contributing less to the discussion. However, for us to go from being mostly in agreement on Exo to an entirely different case out of nowhere seems worng.
We CAN have nice things
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