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On December 20 2016 08:02 Rels wrote:Kmatt I don't follow your train of thoughts here: Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 00:15 Kmatt wrote:On December 20 2016 00:06 sicklucker wrote:
kill lightning strike. via night kill preferably Wait what? Are you just sarcastically scumbaiting or do we not like LS? If you're asking for a night kill aren't you assuming he's town? Or is it that you think he's a bad town and will get himself lynched if left alive? Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 00:22 Kmatt wrote:On December 20 2016 00:21 LightningStrike wrote:On December 20 2016 00:15 Kmatt wrote:On December 20 2016 00:06 sicklucker wrote:
kill lightning strike. via night kill preferably Wait what? Are you just sarcastically scumbaiting or do we not like LS? If you're asking for a night kill aren't you assuming he's town? Or is it that you think he's a bad town and will get himself lynched if left alive? What your opinion on this Kmatt? Do you think think he was being sarcastic about me or do you think he scumslipped this early or what? My assumption is that he thinks you're a bad town and wants you gone before you waste a lynch vote. Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 00:26 Kmatt wrote:On December 20 2016 00:22 Kmatt wrote:On December 20 2016 00:21 LightningStrike wrote:On December 20 2016 00:15 Kmatt wrote:On December 20 2016 00:06 sicklucker wrote:
kill lightning strike. via night kill preferably Wait what? Are you just sarcastically scumbaiting or do we not like LS? If you're asking for a night kill aren't you assuming he's town? Or is it that you think he's a bad town and will get himself lynched if left alive? What your opinion on this Kmatt? Do you think think he was being sarcastic about me or do you think he scumslipped this early or what? My assumption is that he thinks you're a bad town and wants you gone before you waste a lynch vote. Which is to say he's acting like town. Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 00:31 Kmatt wrote:On December 20 2016 00:27 LightningStrike wrote:On December 20 2016 00:22 Kmatt wrote:On December 20 2016 00:21 LightningStrike wrote:On December 20 2016 00:15 Kmatt wrote:On December 20 2016 00:06 sicklucker wrote:
kill lightning strike. via night kill preferably Wait what? Are you just sarcastically scumbaiting or do we not like LS? If you're asking for a night kill aren't you assuming he's town? Or is it that you think he's a bad town and will get himself lynched if left alive? What your opinion on this Kmatt? Do you think think he was being sarcastic about me or do you think he scumslipped this early or what? My assumption is that he thinks you're a bad town and wants you gone before you waste a lynch vote. Honestly if I was a bad town I surprised he would night kill me when he's scum because it would mean he thinks I was a threat on finding his team. I'm willing to bet that was sarcasm. SL any input here? I'd rather not have to speak on your behalf when we're in this thread together. You assume SL might be seriously talking about LS being bad town, then you assume it was sarcasm ? And you're pressuring SL on that but you think it was townie ?
rels did point out my thoughts on kmatt. literraly a mind meld since I had not read his post yet. so obv town points
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so ya me and rels both had independently the same idea unless you think im bullshitting about not reading the thread. easy town reads boys
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rels next two posts are kind of gold. hell i might never lynch him for the rest of the game
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On December 20 2016 08:49 Kmatt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 08:38 Rels wrote:On December 20 2016 08:25 Kmatt wrote:On December 20 2016 08:02 Rels wrote:Kmatt I don't follow your train of thoughts here: On December 20 2016 00:15 Kmatt wrote:On December 20 2016 00:06 sicklucker wrote:
kill lightning strike. via night kill preferably Wait what? Are you just sarcastically scumbaiting or do we not like LS? If you're asking for a night kill aren't you assuming he's town? Or is it that you think he's a bad town and will get himself lynched if left alive? On December 20 2016 00:22 Kmatt wrote:On December 20 2016 00:21 LightningStrike wrote:On December 20 2016 00:15 Kmatt wrote:On December 20 2016 00:06 sicklucker wrote:
kill lightning strike. via night kill preferably Wait what? Are you just sarcastically scumbaiting or do we not like LS? If you're asking for a night kill aren't you assuming he's town? Or is it that you think he's a bad town and will get himself lynched if left alive? What your opinion on this Kmatt? Do you think think he was being sarcastic about me or do you think he scumslipped this early or what? My assumption is that he thinks you're a bad town and wants you gone before you waste a lynch vote. On December 20 2016 00:26 Kmatt wrote:On December 20 2016 00:22 Kmatt wrote:On December 20 2016 00:21 LightningStrike wrote:On December 20 2016 00:15 Kmatt wrote:On December 20 2016 00:06 sicklucker wrote:
kill lightning strike. via night kill preferably Wait what? Are you just sarcastically scumbaiting or do we not like LS? If you're asking for a night kill aren't you assuming he's town? Or is it that you think he's a bad town and will get himself lynched if left alive? What your opinion on this Kmatt? Do you think think he was being sarcastic about me or do you think he scumslipped this early or what? My assumption is that he thinks you're a bad town and wants you gone before you waste a lynch vote. Which is to say he's acting like town. On December 20 2016 00:31 Kmatt wrote:On December 20 2016 00:27 LightningStrike wrote:On December 20 2016 00:22 Kmatt wrote:On December 20 2016 00:21 LightningStrike wrote:On December 20 2016 00:15 Kmatt wrote:On December 20 2016 00:06 sicklucker wrote:
kill lightning strike. via night kill preferably Wait what? Are you just sarcastically scumbaiting or do we not like LS? If you're asking for a night kill aren't you assuming he's town? Or is it that you think he's a bad town and will get himself lynched if left alive? What your opinion on this Kmatt? Do you think think he was being sarcastic about me or do you think he scumslipped this early or what? My assumption is that he thinks you're a bad town and wants you gone before you waste a lynch vote. Honestly if I was a bad town I surprised he would night kill me when he's scum because it would mean he thinks I was a threat on finding his team. I'm willing to bet that was sarcasm. SL any input here? I'd rather not have to speak on your behalf when we're in this thread together. You assume SL might be seriously talking about LS being bad town, then you assume it was sarcasm ? And you're pressuring SL on that but you think it was townie ? Oh here we go again He was making a joke. I'm getting sick of having to explain it to people and want SL to do it. That is all. So you never consider SL sentence to be serious ? And you stated openly in the thread multiple times that you think that SL is making a joke and that oyu think it is townie, there is no pressure on SL anymore since he knows what you find townie. No, SL was obviously not serious about trying to get LS nightkilled. I find harmless banter at the start of the game to be more town behavior. As of now, with how absent he's been from discussion I have a null read on him. There hasn't really been pressure because we've been talking about different things. I'd like to hear some thoughts from him and something constructive from LS.
regardless if thats what you really thought thats not how you came off as. see evidence above
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On December 20 2016 09:19 Rels wrote:I'm caught up. disfo might be scum maybe, I didn't like his posts on SL and Slam these last few pages. But if the lynch was right now I would 1000% lynch exo. He's fighting very differently from the last game I played with him; in that one he OMGUSd every player that pushed him. Here he stated a reason for suspecting Koshi and Kmatt and repeated it over and over. Actually it makes up for like half of his filter: Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 01:44 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 01:43 Kmatt wrote:On December 20 2016 01:34 ExO_ wrote:
so somehow koshi/kmatt are going to come into the thread, scum reading me for some stupid ass reason. kmatt ignores my comment about him buddying, as any scum would. and both koshi/kmatt ignore disinformation pseudo defending me. If I'm scummy, why isn't disinfo scummy too hmm koshi/kmatt? Okay looking back I misread you the first time, thought you meant I was buddying with LightningStrike by conversing. Still not really buddying with Sicklucker, it was LS who was having a hard time understanding the comment so there's no harm in explaining it to him. My bit about "being in this thread together" refers to the fact that SL could very easily answer these questions himself. And Disinfo not immediately agreeing with me doesn't make him scum. Being this invested in your own innocence and pointing fingers at us for having the audacity to doubt you is scummy. If you were really town you'd be proving it by lynching scum, not throwing shade because we're scumhunting. Disinfo didn't immediately agree with you, he disregarded your case by saying im not a morning person. Are you reading the same thread as I am? Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 01:54 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 01:49 Koshi wrote:
Feels like you are playing a game against this thread Exo.
Kmatt buddying
Disinfo defending
Koshi also mafia?
It's weird I don't think disinfo is scum, I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious. Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 02:08 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 02:02 Koshi wrote:On December 20 2016 01:59 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 01:57 Koshi wrote:On December 20 2016 01:54 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 01:49 Koshi wrote:
Feels like you are playing a game against this thread Exo.
Kmatt buddying
Disinfo defending
Koshi also mafia?
It's weird I don't think disinfo is scum, I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious. O rly? Can you explain why? I don't have a fucking reason to think he's scum yet. Especially when kmatt is over here omgusing me at the first thing I say and you are defending him like crazy. Do I already need to have a 5 page analysis on why I think every player is town? I'm not going to operate from the assumption that everyone is scum, that's fucking retarded. I'll scum read someone when I have a reason to think they are scum You are focussing on the wrong part of that sentence. I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious. Why? Goddamn each refresh is a new red alert from my virusthingie. If you think I'm a scum: Kmatt comes into the thread and votes me. Disinfo basically brushes off the case saying I'm not a morning person and tries to redirect the conversation elsewhere. If you think I'm scum, why are you both ignoring disinfo doing this? Either you (and kmatt) don't really think I'm scum, or are ignoring disinfo here for some reason I cannot fathom. your turn Why aren't you scum reading him if you think I'm scum? Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 02:15 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 02:11 Holyflare wrote:
Then why the fuck are you angry at mafia calling you mafia? What possible reason is there for you to be tilted that he's playing his alignment?
What I'm saying is and what you've now confirmed is you're getting tilted by someone doing a shit play when it's their literal job to do that. It doesn't make sense at all. What if they aren't mafia? I don't like being called mafia at all. Especially for bullshit reasons. Literally look at the end of the most recent game I played. If you think this is getting "tilted" then I get tilted easily I guess. I don't understand why I'm not allowed to be tilted, especially when I say one sentence and am immediately voted and teamed by 2 people. Either way it's far too early in the thread for me to lock into both of them being mafia. So I can't just brush them off entirely. THAT would be a scummy thing to do. Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 02:27 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 02:21 Holyflare wrote:
So you think he's mafia for a bull shit vote
You get tilted regardless
You think disformation isn't suspicious
You push koshi and kmatt as suspicious for not finding disfo suspicious
You say that you are implying they are mafia
You say they might not be mafia and you might be wrong
Is that a fair summary? Can you explain why they should be suspicious of disformation? I'm about 100% sure koshi voted you for being angry at kmatt playing the game instead of some circular deflection logic.
Why does that make them suspicious instead of disformation ACTUALLY being suspicious? Like in a world where you're town you're saying 2 mafia/towns should find someone deflecting off a town you suspicious so why aren't you calling disformation suspicious at all?? I don't agree with your assessment of why Koshi "voted" me. Let Koshi speak for Koshi. I wasn't angry at Kmatt for playing the game, I was angry at being immediately OMGUSed, and I don't think it makes any sense for Koshi to vote me based on that. They should be suspicious of disinformation because he brushed off anything kmatt was trying to say about me being scum and tried to move the conversation elsewhere. If I'm scum, and disinfo is immediately trying to move the conversation elsewhere, it should be suspicious. What I'm implying is by not even saying anything about disinfo they are acting suspiciously, and looks scum-indicative to me. I know I'm town. So in order for me to find disinfo suspicious I have to think that he's ignoring what kmatt said about me not because he thinks its bad (which is the obvious conclusion in my mind) but becuase he's mafia just wanting to skirt by. That's not impossible I guess, but I don't think its nearly enough to scum read him for. Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 02:31 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 02:24 Holyflare wrote:
I cannot for the life of me fathom how someone can say people are suspicious for not pushing a non-suspicious person. Why is disinfo not-suspicious? My logic is this: Koshi/Kmatt think I'm scum Disinfo immediately tries to deflect the thread away from kmatt's scum reading of me Therefore if Koshi/Kmatt are really town, who really think I'm scum, they should at least be questioning disinfo Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 02:39 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 02:33 Holyflare wrote:On December 20 2016 02:27 ExO_ wrote:On December 20 2016 02:21 Holyflare wrote:
So you think he's mafia for a bull shit vote
You get tilted regardless
You think disformation isn't suspicious
You push koshi and kmatt as suspicious for not finding disfo suspicious
You say that you are implying they are mafia
You say they might not be mafia and you might be wrong
Is that a fair summary? Can you explain why they should be suspicious of disformation? I'm about 100% sure koshi voted you for being angry at kmatt playing the game instead of some circular deflection logic.
Why does that make them suspicious instead of disformation ACTUALLY being suspicious? Like in a world where you're town you're saying 2 mafia/towns should find someone deflecting off a town you suspicious so why aren't you calling disformation suspicious at all?? I don't agree with your assessment of why Koshi "voted" me. Let Koshi speak for Koshi. I wasn't angry at Kmatt for playing the game, I was angry at being immediately OMGUSed, and I don't think it makes any sense for Koshi to vote me based on that. They should be suspicious of disinformation because he brushed off anything kmatt was trying to say about me being scum and tried to move the conversation elsewhere. If I'm scum, and disinfo is immediately trying to move the conversation elsewhere, it should be suspicious. What I'm implying is by not even saying anything about disinfo they are acting suspiciously, and looks scum-indicative to me. I know I'm town. So in order for me to find disinfo suspicious I have to think that he's ignoring what kmatt said about me not because he thinks its bad (which is the obvious conclusion in my mind) but becuase he's mafia just wanting to skirt by. That's not impossible I guess, but I don't think its nearly enough to scum read him for. But disformation finds your deflections scummy and has even said so. Why can't he be mafia avoiding a town vs town conflict because that's not what he wants to push or get into? He's just throwing minor accusations around and "doesn't want to make a comment on it yet" which is the exact response I'd expect of a mafia skating by. I'd expect you to be pushing this exact point. I'm gonna let you slide for now because there's always room for improvement. Make a stance on people please with indicative terms like mafia/town/null. That would be useful. At the time when I first posted, disinfo hadn't mentioned anything about finding me scummy. My initial reasoning for why they should find disinfo scummy stems from his initial post, not his posting after that. When you are asking me to explain my reasoning I can't just retroactively add in information to my posts that I didn't have at the time. And come off your high horse. "there's always room for improvement" blah blah blah. Shit like that just pisses me off [/b][/b]
omg and rels wants to lynch exo for the same reasons as me. this is too sick.
IM RIDE OR DIE WITH RELS FOR THE REST OF THE GAME
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Like I dont even care if exos town and we mislynch. im never voting rels for the rest of the game.
I give you my word 100% this coincidence of reads is too sick to ignore. Since I posted my reads after you psoted your probably just gonna be paranoid and think this is some ploy but from my perspective you had already posted this shit I just diddnt reaD it and then I posted the same shit before reading it
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tbf I was kind of reading holyflare kind of townie. and exo and kmart are definitely not mafia together but one probably is. this wagon is super pure exo is the lynch.
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So. There was a recent game where exo was lynched D1 as VT.
Link to his filter
First post he claims VT.
Gets voted by Calix for that.
Immediately OMGUSES Calix.
Then he starts to actually play the game.
As the time for the lynch approaches:
+ Show Spoiler +On November 05 2016 01:19 ExO_ wrote:
I just woke up, and I have to run errands. I'll probably be back before EoD but I can't swear to it. What I will say is this:
I came into the thread just saying whatever I felt like. It's how I always play town. I don't try to carefully construct my posts I just say whats on my mind. I did a lot of OMGUS. When I finally sat and calmly looked at the game, I put a little suspicion on DF/Skynx because of short filter, and rels for a similar reason. But I've been attacked for switching views, for not tunneling, for tunneling at the start, and a whole variety of other things.
I don't know exactly how I could defend myself at this point. I've done my best to make you realize that I'm town. But a LOT of people are tunneling on me. I'm not sure what else I'd have to do to prove I'm town.
The idea that I had a scum slip is a complete joke. If I die today:
Lynch TT/Rels. Both are experienced townies yet are moronically pushing this lynch. Especially TT. After that I would look for people who coasted and just hopped on the wagon day 1.
Do not Lynch Calix: Calix is the most most obviously confirmed town here. I want to say NU as well because of filter length, but I'm not sure.
Anywho I'm running some errands now like I said. I should be back before EoD but my motivation to play this game is basically out the window. On November 05 2016 02:46 ExO_ wrote:
TT/Rels/NU should be your prime suspects. Those are my top 3 scum reads.
I also think there would've been a high chance for people to say "skynkx town read ExO at EoD b/c he's scum trying to get town cred". By pointing this out here I no longer think it'll happen. If it does though refer to this
Conclusion:
There are a bunch of similarities. Esp. at the start of the game.
Tonewise I think his tone is way more over the top this game than it was in the game I linked.
But as I said again and again: he has absolutely 0 reads this game.
Look at his filter. Look at the two posts I quoted.
See the difference?
Imo ExO_ was actually a pretty easy town read in the game I linked. He had a wonky start, but after that he started actually playing and made good posts. This game we only have a huge appeal to emotion.
##vote ExO_
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On December 20 2016 20:12 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 08:34 Rels wrote:
I was disliking the push on ExO at first because I witnessed first hand that ExO can be heavily tilted as town. But exo might be scum actually. Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 09:19 Rels wrote:
I'm caught up. disfo might be scum maybe, I didn't like his posts on SL and Slam these last few pages. But if the lynch was right now I would 1000% lynch exo. Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 18:57 Rels wrote:
I don't know if I want to lynch disfo. There are things in his filter might indicate him as scum (not his hedging, he's known to do that as town): his first post, his "HF point on me is good" post, his very bad reasonning on SL on Slam. But there are things that are good like this post: These things. Mafia has a though time thinking things through as a townie would. The first step figuring things out is easy for a townie, it instant happens in his brain, then the second step is thinking further and proving your initial gutfeeling. You are not doing that, you are stuck on step 1 and making boring as fuck posts about that.
your right thats why my rels holyfalre and kmatt are town and your just a bad scummer =]
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On December 20 2016 20:30 Koshi wrote:
pls stahp being terrible.
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On December 20 2016 21:05 Koshi wrote:
I am not pushing you. Last games you can always be mafia and therefore always up for lynch. It's the baddies that leave you alone for "meta reasons".
last two games i definitely played like mafia early
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but you are voting me over scum reads. literraly pushing me
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koshi I dont mean to be mean but your the worst person at reading me. in my first 3 games against you I was mafia in all of them and you gave me strong town reads. Since then with the exception of last game I have always been town and you always think im mafia at some point ;p
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On December 20 2016 21:22 sicklucker wrote:
but you are voting me over scum reads. literraly pushing me
pressure and pushing is something completely different.
And I would not shed a tear if you would die.
Although this mindmeld thing with Rels is interesting.
Now I can lynch you before Rels.
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On December 20 2016 21:23 sicklucker wrote:
koshi I dont mean to be mean but your the worst person at reading me. in my first 3 games against you I was mafia in all of them and you gave me strong town reads. Since then with the exception of last game I have always been town and you always think im mafia at some point ;p
These are probably lies so I don't give a fuck.
Last game you were mafia and I correctly put you near the top of my list. The games before that I was 3 times mafia and it was you who townread me. And then the games before that are already 8 months ago so fuck off.
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Ohno. I was even 4 times mafia in a row.
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9.disformation
5.sicklucker
2.ExO_
8. Kmatt
6.Rels
7.Holyflare
1.Alakaslam
4.LightningStrike
I am here atm.
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I am also pretty suspicious that sicklucker is bullshitting about this mindmeld thing. I feel like his posts don't add up chronologically.
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On December 20 2016 21:19 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 20:12 Koshi wrote:On December 20 2016 08:34 Rels wrote:
I was disliking the push on ExO at first because I witnessed first hand that ExO can be heavily tilted as town. But exo might be scum actually. On December 20 2016 09:19 Rels wrote:
I'm caught up. disfo might be scum maybe, I didn't like his posts on SL and Slam these last few pages. But if the lynch was right now I would 1000% lynch exo. On December 20 2016 18:57 Rels wrote:
I don't know if I want to lynch disfo. There are things in his filter might indicate him as scum (not his hedging, he's known to do that as town): his first post, his "HF point on me is good" post, his very bad reasonning on SL on Slam. But there are things that are good like this post: These things. Mafia has a though time thinking things through as a townie would. The first step figuring things out is easy for a townie, it instant happens in his brain, then the second step is thinking further and proving your initial gutfeeling. You are not doing that, you are stuck on step 1 and making boring as fuck posts about that. your right thats why my rels holyfalre and kmatt are town and your just a bad scummer =]
On December 20 2016 21:19 sicklucker wrote:
or just a bad!
On December 20 2016 21:20 sicklucker wrote:
Calling me mafia into the double backdown. good stuff.
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