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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 20 2016 10:54 GMT
#361
On December 20 2016 19:53 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 19:48 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:46 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:44 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:43 Alakaslam wrote:
^^ ok

See vote thread

Goodnight people

On December 20 2016 19:35 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:09 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

What does that mean ? What am I unsure wrongly about ?

some of your stances on disformation, some of your ideas regarding who would be scum why, that kind of thing.

I find it odd though, what could I have meant? I find that I am really unclear, even in IRL with people. That probably explains lots of people's confusion with me on here. I am just a really bad communicator.

Like I would assume people would get what I meant from what I said, that they'd see the subtleties I intended rather than others. So I wouldn't think the subtleties through

like what could I even mean

Now that the thing on disfo is settled, please expand on the bolded.


Expand on it?

I read your stuff earlier today and I found it to be unnatural

That's a read of sorts. It's how some of us work, less concrete you might say.

I have a direct opposite experience with playing with saitamaofonepunch p:

You started 3 posts in this game (2 on disformation, 1 on Exo with major waffles).
It is odd.

I "started" 3 posts ?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 10:58 GMT
#362
I liked Rels earlier posts (Kmatt, ExO_, LS).
Not sure I like his stuff about me. BUt obv biased here.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 20 2016 10:59 GMT
#363
OK lunch break for me. Koshi explain your post please
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 10:59 GMT
#364
TBH with that pressure from the thread I would have changed my read to scumreading me too. As either alignment. =D
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 11:01 GMT
#365
On December 20 2016 19:46 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 19:44 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:43 Alakaslam wrote:
^^ ok

See vote thread

Goodnight people

On December 20 2016 19:35 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:09 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

What does that mean ? What am I unsure wrongly about ?

some of your stances on disformation, some of your ideas regarding who would be scum why, that kind of thing.

I find it odd though, what could I have meant? I find that I am really unclear, even in IRL with people. That probably explains lots of people's confusion with me on here. I am just a really bad communicator.

Like I would assume people would get what I meant from what I said, that they'd see the subtleties I intended rather than others. So I wouldn't think the subtleties through

like what could I even mean

Now that the thing on disfo is settled, please expand on the bolded.


Expand on it?

I read your stuff earlier today and I found it to be unnatural

That's a read of sorts. It's how some of us work, less concrete you might say.

So I guess I am disagreeing with slam here. Imo Rels posts sounded good until he starts talking about me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 20 2016 11:04 GMT
#366
I see slam making too much sense, too mamy good posts and it makes me want to lynch him too :p
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 11:07 GMT
#367
If ExO_ had put in a few reads, especially like a scumread, with his latest wall, I would be feeling a lot better about him.

I don't really like SL wanting to lynch both kmatt and exo without much of an explanation. And I still want him to properly explain the kmatt thing.

slam is a bit of an ???.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 11:08 GMT
#368
On December 20 2016 18:45 Rels wrote:
Kmatt might be townier that I thought. I didn't like his early posts but that's because I didn't understand the logic. The rest of his filter is pretty natural, especially on exo, and I don't remember Kmatt being a good scum in the last game he played. I will have to reread it at some point to verify that thought.

He got nominated as bestest newcomer for his last scum game by kitaman27 if I recall correctly.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 11:12 GMT
#369
On December 20 2016 08:34 Rels wrote:
I was disliking the push on ExO at first because I witnessed first hand that ExO can be heavily tilted as town. But exo might be scum actually.

On December 20 2016 09:19 Rels wrote:
I'm caught up. disfo might be scum maybe, I didn't like his posts on SL and Slam these last few pages. But if the lynch was right now I would 1000% lynch exo.

On December 20 2016 18:57 Rels wrote:
I don't know if I want to lynch disfo. There are things in his filter might indicate him as scum (not his hedging, he's known to do that as town): his first post, his "HF point on me is good" post, his very bad reasonning on SL on Slam. But there are things that are good like this post:

These things. Mafia has a though time thinking things through as a townie would.

The first step figuring things out is easy for a townie, it instant happens in his brain, then the second step is thinking further and proving your initial gutfeeling.

You are not doing that, you are stuck on step 1 and making boring as fuck posts about that.
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 11:13 GMT
#370
one thing confuses me about slam.
He jumps into the thread, with an bad vibe on rels and votes him, over rels post on me. Which I can kinda understand.
Then Rels changes the conclusion on me and Slam unvotes Rels and votes me. I don't think Slam has ever mentioned me besides "yo rels I dont like your stuff on disfo"?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 11:14 GMT
#371
On December 20 2016 20:13 disformation wrote:
one thing confuses me about slam.
He jumps into the thread, with an bad vibe on rels and votes him, over rels post on me. Which I can kinda understand.
Then Rels changes the conclusion on me and Slam unvotes Rels and votes me. I don't think Slam has ever mentioned me besides "yo rels I dont like your stuff on disfo"?

Your point?
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 11:16 GMT
#372
On December 20 2016 20:14 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:13 disformation wrote:
one thing confuses me about slam.
He jumps into the thread, with an bad vibe on rels and votes him, over rels post on me. Which I can kinda understand.
Then Rels changes the conclusion on me and Slam unvotes Rels and votes me. I don't think Slam has ever mentioned me besides "yo rels I dont like your stuff on disfo"?

Your point?

*sigh* should probably said so the first time. xD

I am not 100% sure cause his points on rels arent bad and I might be biased.
But I get a bit of an opportunistic feeling of of this. As in: he might not be looking for scum, but for an ml.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 11:21 GMT
#373
On December 20 2016 20:01 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 19:46 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:44 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:43 Alakaslam wrote:
^^ ok

See vote thread

Goodnight people

On December 20 2016 19:35 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:09 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

What does that mean ? What am I unsure wrongly about ?

some of your stances on disformation, some of your ideas regarding who would be scum why, that kind of thing.

I find it odd though, what could I have meant? I find that I am really unclear, even in IRL with people. That probably explains lots of people's confusion with me on here. I am just a really bad communicator.

Like I would assume people would get what I meant from what I said, that they'd see the subtleties I intended rather than others. So I wouldn't think the subtleties through

like what could I even mean

Now that the thing on disfo is settled, please expand on the bolded.


Expand on it?

I read your stuff earlier today and I found it to be unnatural

That's a read of sorts. It's how some of us work, less concrete you might say.

So I guess I am disagreeing with slam here. Imo Rels posts sounded good until he starts talking about me.

On December 20 2016 20:16 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:14 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:13 disformation wrote:
one thing confuses me about slam.
He jumps into the thread, with an bad vibe on rels and votes him, over rels post on me. Which I can kinda understand.
Then Rels changes the conclusion on me and Slam unvotes Rels and votes me. I don't think Slam has ever mentioned me besides "yo rels I dont like your stuff on disfo"?

Your point?

*sigh* should probably said so the first time. xD

I am not 100% sure cause his points on rels arent bad and I might be biased.
But I get a bit of an opportunistic feeling of of this. As in: he might not be looking for scum, but for an ml.

What the fuck am I even doing this game. xD
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 11:26 GMT
#374
On December 20 2016 20:16 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:14 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:13 disformation wrote:
one thing confuses me about slam.
He jumps into the thread, with an bad vibe on rels and votes him, over rels post on me. Which I can kinda understand.
Then Rels changes the conclusion on me and Slam unvotes Rels and votes me. I don't think Slam has ever mentioned me besides "yo rels I dont like your stuff on disfo"?

Your point?

*sigh* should probably said so the first time. xD

I am not 100% sure cause his points on rels arent bad and I might be biased.
But I get a bit of an opportunistic feeling of of this. As in: he might not be looking for scum, but for an ml.

Such a drag with you this game...

Again.. Why would he move his vote from Rels to you if he is mafia? Why bother? Clearly something happened and he liked it and decided to move his vote, knowing I was fighting about you with Rels there is a big chance something did change for him and he swapped his vote around.

It is more likely he is town for this, than mafia. Also, the way Alakaslam came in the thread voting Rels with actual reasoning is pretty good stuff. It is true that Rels is a wafflemaster this game and that there is a very prudent feeling behind his posts and that we all like our shit easy. Posts like "I think X is obvious mafia and reason Y and Z proof that". Nothing like that from Rels. Alakaslam saw that and voted Rels. I am ok with it.



Anyway. Why you can't make thoughtful posts bothers me. Light some fireworks in your ass and type things that are out there. So I can see you are actually thinking about things.


On December 20 2016 20:01 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 19:46 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:44 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:43 Alakaslam wrote:
^^ ok

See vote thread

Goodnight people

On December 20 2016 19:35 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:09 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

What does that mean ? What am I unsure wrongly about ?

some of your stances on disformation, some of your ideas regarding who would be scum why, that kind of thing.

I find it odd though, what could I have meant? I find that I am really unclear, even in IRL with people. That probably explains lots of people's confusion with me on here. I am just a really bad communicator.

Like I would assume people would get what I meant from what I said, that they'd see the subtleties I intended rather than others. So I wouldn't think the subtleties through

like what could I even mean

Now that the thing on disfo is settled, please expand on the bolded.


Expand on it?

I read your stuff earlier today and I found it to be unnatural

That's a read of sorts. It's how some of us work, less concrete you might say.

So I guess I am disagreeing with slam here. Imo Rels posts sounded good until he starts talking about me.

Also the bolded........ Almost nothing there except 1 post about Kmatt maybe being town which was fine. But the other post was him completely ignoring my bad "town case" on Exo and asking why I had a feeling he could be mafia....... While Exo is his nr 1 "certain" scumread.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 11:26 GMT
#375
On December 20 2016 20:21 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:01 disformation wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:46 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:44 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:43 Alakaslam wrote:
^^ ok

See vote thread

Goodnight people

On December 20 2016 19:35 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:09 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

What does that mean ? What am I unsure wrongly about ?

some of your stances on disformation, some of your ideas regarding who would be scum why, that kind of thing.

I find it odd though, what could I have meant? I find that I am really unclear, even in IRL with people. That probably explains lots of people's confusion with me on here. I am just a really bad communicator.

Like I would assume people would get what I meant from what I said, that they'd see the subtleties I intended rather than others. So I wouldn't think the subtleties through

like what could I even mean

Now that the thing on disfo is settled, please expand on the bolded.


Expand on it?

I read your stuff earlier today and I found it to be unnatural

That's a read of sorts. It's how some of us work, less concrete you might say.

So I guess I am disagreeing with slam here. Imo Rels posts sounded good until he starts talking about me.

Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:16 disformation wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:14 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:13 disformation wrote:
one thing confuses me about slam.
He jumps into the thread, with an bad vibe on rels and votes him, over rels post on me. Which I can kinda understand.
Then Rels changes the conclusion on me and Slam unvotes Rels and votes me. I don't think Slam has ever mentioned me besides "yo rels I dont like your stuff on disfo"?

Your point?

*sigh* should probably said so the first time. xD

I am not 100% sure cause his points on rels arent bad and I might be biased.
But I get a bit of an opportunistic feeling of of this. As in: he might not be looking for scum, but for an ml.

What the fuck am I even doing this game. xD

scumclaiming in my eyes. It's really annoying.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 11:30 GMT
#376
On December 20 2016 18:07 Koshi wrote:
Disformation / Rels should maybe be lynched into. Sicklucker as backup?

Who are the terrible towns?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 11:30 GMT
#377
pls stahp being terrible.
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 11:32 GMT
#378
hardclaiming terrible town. maybe the others can cc me and we fight to the death?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 11:35 GMT
#379
On December 20 2016 20:32 disformation wrote:
hardclaiming terrible town. maybe the others can cc me and we fight to the death?

Good job going for the easy answer on that post and completely ignore the analysis I made on Alakaslam being more likely town for that change of vote. Which is the opposite conclusion you had on that "event".


Such a drag.
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 11:35 GMT
#380
On December 20 2016 20:07 disformation wrote:
If ExO_ had put in a few reads, especially like a scumread, with his latest wall, I would be feeling a lot better about him.

I don't really like SL wanting to lynch both kmatt and exo without much of an explanation. And I still want him to properly explain the kmatt thing.

slam is a bit of an ???.

I also think SL has had way more clear/impactful town games recently.
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