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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 12:34 GMT
#421
Like who is mafia with Exo at this point?
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 12:37 GMT
#422
On December 20 2016 21:34 Koshi wrote:
Like who is mafia with Exo at this point?

More likely someone not voting ExO_
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 20 2016 12:46 GMT
#423
This is boring.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 20 2016 12:54 GMT
#424
I just want to lynch into sl/exo/disfo and most likely win. I think exo's appeal to emotion into 0 reads is bs and opportunistic and he should be voted. I think SL's posts are terrible and his mindmeld bs is either made up or just makes rels town. I don't like his berating of koshi despite saying that koshi is doing what he does every game. I think disfo is extremely self-defeatist, doesn't post things that chronologically make sense and even points out his own mistakes which suggests a hyper awareness of his faults which is scummy. Much more used to post anything and everything disfo.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 20 2016 12:55 GMT
#425
Annoyingly since this is majority too it's gonna be tough if exo posts something that actually makes sense closer to deadline. So, exo, if you're town you have to actually play the game now and make reads because anything nearer deadline is crazy opportunistic and bad.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 12:58 GMT
#426
On December 20 2016 21:37 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 21:34 Koshi wrote:
Like who is mafia with Exo at this point?

More likely someone not voting ExO_

ughhhh. you keep doing this thing in which you refuse to play the game and think further. Why can't you give some fucking analysis instead of this shitty one liner.

Or

Can't you go look if sicklucker his posts add up around Rels. I feel like he already read everything before he "mindmelded" with Rels.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 20 2016 13:03 GMT
#427
On December 20 2016 20:08 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 18:45 Rels wrote:
Kmatt might be townier that I thought. I didn't like his early posts but that's because I didn't understand the logic. The rest of his filter is pretty natural, especially on exo, and I don't remember Kmatt being a good scum in the last game he played. I will have to reread it at some point to verify that thought.

He got nominated as bestest newcomer for his last scum game by kitaman27 if I recall correctly.

On December 20 2016 21:03 disformation wrote:
But I like your points on Kmatt. It is something to keep in mind for later.

On December 20 2016 20:44 disformation wrote:
And TBH really the two scums are in ExO_, SL, Rels, Slam.


The thing I don't like about disfo is that he's seemingly keeping his options open and weakening other people's town reads but then stating a list that doesn't even contain kmatt in it. I feel like it's also opportunistic.

On December 20 2016 21:18 disformation wrote:
So. There was a recent game where exo was lynched D1 as VT.
Link to his filter

First post he claims VT.
Gets voted by Calix for that.
Immediately OMGUSES Calix.

Then he starts to actually play the game.
As the time for the lynch approaches:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 05 2016 01:19 ExO_ wrote:
I just woke up, and I have to run errands. I'll probably be back before EoD but I can't swear to it. What I will say is this:

I came into the thread just saying whatever I felt like. It's how I always play town. I don't try to carefully construct my posts I just say whats on my mind. I did a lot of OMGUS. When I finally sat and calmly looked at the game, I put a little suspicion on DF/Skynx because of short filter, and rels for a similar reason. But I've been attacked for switching views, for not tunneling, for tunneling at the start, and a whole variety of other things.

I don't know exactly how I could defend myself at this point. I've done my best to make you realize that I'm town. But a LOT of people are tunneling on me. I'm not sure what else I'd have to do to prove I'm town.

The idea that I had a scum slip is a complete joke. If I die today:

Lynch TT/Rels. Both are experienced townies yet are moronically pushing this lynch. Especially TT. After that I would look for people who coasted and just hopped on the wagon day 1.

Do not Lynch Calix: Calix is the most most obviously confirmed town here. I want to say NU as well because of filter length, but I'm not sure.


Anywho I'm running some errands now like I said. I should be back before EoD but my motivation to play this game is basically out the window.

On November 05 2016 02:46 ExO_ wrote:
TT/Rels/NU should be your prime suspects. Those are my top 3 scum reads.

I also think there would've been a high chance for people to say "skynkx town read ExO at EoD b/c he's scum trying to get town cred". By pointing this out here I no longer think it'll happen. If it does though refer to this



Conclusion:
There are a bunch of similarities. Esp. at the start of the game.
Tonewise I think his tone is way more over the top this game than it was in the game I linked.
But as I said again and again: he has absolutely 0 reads this game.
Look at his filter. Look at the two posts I quoted.
See the difference?

Imo ExO_ was actually a pretty easy town read in the game I linked. He had a wonky start, but after that he started actually playing and made good posts. This game we only have a huge appeal to emotion.

##vote ExO_


This post also made me go wtf because everything disfo said that ExO_ did in his town game he's done here. OMGUSd a player, got annoyed, claimed VT. Not once did disfo mention this at all during the game and has only done it now. We're not even near the deadline which is when disfo said exo came back last time.

I feel like to make this post disfo had to KNOW that there was a game where exo claimed VT since it's not actually in the database at all. Also, since he didn't mention it it actually looks like disformation wants to hop on this bandwagon with hip reasons.

I think they might be partners or disformation is an extremely better vote.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 20 2016 13:06 GMT
#428
I realise that post isn't well formulated but to break it down:

ExO's game where he claims VT isn't in the database.
Disformation therefore knows he's done this before, rage et al.

Conclusion:
There are a bunch of similarities. Esp. at the start of the game.
Tonewise I think his tone is way more over the top this game than it was in the game I linked.


Disformation states the start of this game was just like that one.
Disformation didn't mention any of this at the start of the game at all.
Disformation didn't even factor it in at all.
Disformation wants to hop on hip bandwagon.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 13:07 GMT
#429
Everything is wrong on Disformation. It's insane.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 13:11 GMT
#430
I can see so many easy partners with disformation as well.

How Rels waffled 2 times on disformation, and even in his Exo vote said something about disformation. Or was that another post?

Sicklucker same. He just forces the pressure away from disformation and puts it somewhere else on a very unnatural way .


I had the feeling the lynch needed to be within these 3 names quite early and for some reason they all 3 can't push away the feeling they are mafia. Rels was the closest.
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 13:15 GMT
#431
On December 20 2016 22:06 Holyflare wrote:
I realise that post isn't well formulated but to break it down:

ExO's game where he claims VT isn't in the database.
Disformation therefore knows he's done this before, rage et al.

Show nested quote +
Conclusion:
There are a bunch of similarities. Esp. at the start of the game.
Tonewise I think his tone is way more over the top this game than it was in the game I linked.


Disformation states the start of this game was just like that one.
Disformation didn't mention any of this at the start of the game at all.
Disformation didn't even factor it in at all.
Disformation wants to hop on hip bandwagon.

I was in obs this game, forgot about until someone mentioned it (might have been rels).
Was bored adn decided to look at it.

and i def. mention that the start of the game is similar. the big difference is what happens afterward. He starts to play a good town game and by the time he looks like the def. lynch the posts I quoted happen.
Looks like day and night to this game.

timing checks out. there should at least be some decent posts by exo here by now.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 20 2016 13:20 GMT
#432
On December 20 2016 22:15 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 22:06 Holyflare wrote:
I realise that post isn't well formulated but to break it down:

ExO's game where he claims VT isn't in the database.
Disformation therefore knows he's done this before, rage et al.

Conclusion:
There are a bunch of similarities. Esp. at the start of the game.
Tonewise I think his tone is way more over the top this game than it was in the game I linked.


Disformation states the start of this game was just like that one.
Disformation didn't mention any of this at the start of the game at all.
Disformation didn't even factor it in at all.
Disformation wants to hop on hip bandwagon.

I was in obs this game, forgot about until someone mentioned it (might have been rels).
Was bored adn decided to look at it.

and i def. mention that the start of the game is similar. the big difference is what happens afterward. He starts to play a good town game and by the time he looks like the def. lynch the posts I quoted happen.
Looks like day and night to this game.

timing checks out. there should at least be some decent posts by exo here by now.


Where did you mention this at all?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 13:21 GMT
#433
disformation, if you are not mafia, there is without a single piece of doubt, mafia within Rels/Sicklucker. Maybe even both.


I stopped believing Exo is mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 13:23 GMT
#434
On December 20 2016 22:11 Koshi wrote:
I can see so many easy partners with disformation as well.

How Rels waffled 2 times on disformation, and even in his Exo vote said something about disformation. Or was that another post?

Sicklucker same. He just forces the pressure away from disformation and puts it somewhere else on a very unnatural way .


I had the feeling the lynch needed to be within these 3 names quite early and for some reason they all 3 can't push away the feeling they are mafia. Rels was the closest.

since I am town. that should make them more town, since they legit dont know my aligment?
doesnt make much sense for them to waffle about me as scum right? just line me up as a ML?
though rels is kinda doing that with his waffling...
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 20 2016 13:25 GMT
#435
On December 20 2016 22:21 Koshi wrote:
disformation, if you are not mafia, there is without a single piece of doubt, mafia within Rels/Sicklucker. Maybe even both.


I stopped believing Exo is mafia.


That's a terrible thing to do.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 13:26 GMT
#436
On December 20 2016 22:23 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 22:11 Koshi wrote:
I can see so many easy partners with disformation as well.

How Rels waffled 2 times on disformation, and even in his Exo vote said something about disformation. Or was that another post?

Sicklucker same. He just forces the pressure away from disformation and puts it somewhere else on a very unnatural way .


I had the feeling the lynch needed to be within these 3 names quite early and for some reason they all 3 can't push away the feeling they are mafia. Rels was the closest.

since I am town. that should make them more town, since they legit dont know my aligment?
doesnt make much sense for them to waffle about me as scum right? just line me up as a ML?
though rels is kinda doing that with his waffling...

If you are town. This is what is happening:

Town is pushing a ml (Koshi and HF)
Mafia is pushing a ml (Exo)


Now mafia can still be within many names. Some more likely than others.



But it is fucking time to put on your big boy shoes and somehow show that you are solving this game. And you do that by showing that every post you make, even if it is only 1-2 lines.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 13:26 GMT
#437
On December 20 2016 22:25 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 22:21 Koshi wrote:
disformation, if you are not mafia, there is without a single piece of doubt, mafia within Rels/Sicklucker. Maybe even both.


I stopped believing Exo is mafia.


That's a terrible thing to do.

Sure, but I need to live in that world right now.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 13:27 GMT
#438
EBWOP 2 posts up

Town (Koshi and HF) is pushing a ml (disformation)
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 13:39 GMT
#439
On December 20 2016 21:33 Koshi wrote:
I am also pretty suspicious that sicklucker is bullshitting about this mindmeld thing. I feel like his posts don't add up chronologically.

I would be more inclined to believe it is legit if he hadnt posted this:
On December 20 2016 21:09 sicklucker wrote:
so ya me and rels both had independently the same idea unless you think im bullshitting about not reading the thread. easy town reads boys

Makes me think he is super aware of him having read it before.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 13:40 GMT
#440
On December 20 2016 22:20 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 22:15 disformation wrote:
On December 20 2016 22:06 Holyflare wrote:
I realise that post isn't well formulated but to break it down:

ExO's game where he claims VT isn't in the database.
Disformation therefore knows he's done this before, rage et al.

Conclusion:
There are a bunch of similarities. Esp. at the start of the game.
Tonewise I think his tone is way more over the top this game than it was in the game I linked.


Disformation states the start of this game was just like that one.
Disformation didn't mention any of this at the start of the game at all.
Disformation didn't even factor it in at all.
Disformation wants to hop on hip bandwagon.

I was in obs this game, forgot about until someone mentioned it (might have been rels).
Was bored adn decided to look at it.

and i def. mention that the start of the game is similar. the big difference is what happens afterward. He starts to play a good town game and by the time he looks like the def. lynch the posts I quoted happen.
Looks like day and night to this game.

timing checks out. there should at least be some decent posts by exo here by now.


Where did you mention this at all?

On December 20 2016 21:18 disformation wrote:
So. There was a recent game where exo was lynched D1 as VT.
Link to his filter

First post he claims VT.
Gets voted by Calix for that.
Immediately OMGUSES Calix.

Then he starts to actually play the game.
As the time for the lynch approaches:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 05 2016 01:19 ExO_ wrote:
I just woke up, and I have to run errands. I'll probably be back before EoD but I can't swear to it. What I will say is this:

I came into the thread just saying whatever I felt like. It's how I always play town. I don't try to carefully construct my posts I just say whats on my mind. I did a lot of OMGUS. When I finally sat and calmly looked at the game, I put a little suspicion on DF/Skynx because of short filter, and rels for a similar reason. But I've been attacked for switching views, for not tunneling, for tunneling at the start, and a whole variety of other things.

I don't know exactly how I could defend myself at this point. I've done my best to make you realize that I'm town. But a LOT of people are tunneling on me. I'm not sure what else I'd have to do to prove I'm town.

The idea that I had a scum slip is a complete joke. If I die today:

Lynch TT/Rels. Both are experienced townies yet are moronically pushing this lynch. Especially TT. After that I would look for people who coasted and just hopped on the wagon day 1.

Do not Lynch Calix: Calix is the most most obviously confirmed town here. I want to say NU as well because of filter length, but I'm not sure.


Anywho I'm running some errands now like I said. I should be back before EoD but my motivation to play this game is basically out the window.

On November 05 2016 02:46 ExO_ wrote:
TT/Rels/NU should be your prime suspects. Those are my top 3 scum reads.

I also think there would've been a high chance for people to say "skynkx town read ExO at EoD b/c he's scum trying to get town cred". By pointing this out here I no longer think it'll happen. If it does though refer to this



Conclusion:
There are a bunch of similarities. Esp. at the start of the game.
Tonewise I think his tone is way more over the top this game than it was in the game I linked.
But as I said again and again: he has absolutely 0 reads this game.
Look at his filter. Look at the two posts I quoted.
See the difference?

Imo ExO_ was actually a pretty easy town read in the game I linked. He had a wonky start, but after that he started actually playing and made good posts. This game we only have a huge appeal to emotion.

##vote ExO_

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