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On November 07 2016 19:20 Rels wrote:
Calix, since one of your point is taht I hang back and only does thing that are not impactful, did you check any of my scumgames ?
I've read one but it wasn't really a mafia game. It was some game where you had to send off players on 'missions' or something like that. I think you were scum there anyway...with Xatalos and Artanis if I remember correctly?
If you want to link me to a few of your actual scum games then I will read and get back to you on that.
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Also I need to write this essay so I am going to postpone this conversation for now since it's hard to focus on that and on considering your points at the same time.
So yeah, do whatever in the meantime.
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Okay never mind, that took me less time than I thought it would. But I'm still going to drop it for now since you seem annoyed and I'm probably not going to take your responses that seriously until I've had the chance to have a break, clear my mind and reread and blah blah blah.
Although given that I didn't look up your scum games earlier, I can almost relate to you being annoyed because that was retarded of me. And I did that with TT so not sure why that didn't occur to me to do the same with you earlier.
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On November 07 2016 20:01 Rels wrote:
Joy
Don't know what you're talking about. I am delightful to argue with.
Any other insights you want to share while you're here?
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On November 07 2016 20:05 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2016 20:03 Calix wrote:On November 07 2016 20:01 Rels wrote:
Joy Don't know what you're talking about. I am delightful to argue with. Any other insights you want to share while you're here? That you're willing to reconsider stuff p: Nope, I'm in the middle of something actually, I didn't plan on playing mafia this morning. I didn't reread anything since I went to sleep
Well yeah, it would be dumb to not reconsider on someone like you given that you are not a completely shit player. Just ignore my hypocrisy since you might have been doing that as town with me, lol.
If there's nothing more to be said then I'm going to be looking at your meta now.
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On November 07 2016 20:38 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2016 20:11 Skynx wrote:On November 07 2016 09:35 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 07 2016 09:32 Rels wrote:
I don't have a lot of reasons to scumread Foreman. But I have reasons to townread everyone else to varying degrees (or in DF case, I don't think he can be Skynx partner) and my tone read of Foreman at the beginning of the game doesn't hold up to the amount of nothing he's doing right now.
The only thing that is maybe scummy is that he had only weak interactions with Skynx at some points, but there is a lot of Skynx talk in his filter: he voted him, and he had several posts that either talked about him, or talked about people read of Skynx. Can't remember who posted that first but I read something about it when catching up and it's true.
Might be a partner tell but it's quite weak. It's not that bad. Also, notice how Skynx decides he is going to case Foreman now that he's been completely AFK? It's almost as if he wants to be part of the wagon to bus if Foreman is scum. Why Calix now? You know what fuck this. I spent 4 hours writing and reading i don't need to see this toxic shit when i wake up. Go ahead and lynch me i don't give a fuck get me out of this game pls its not fun for me. Also go ahead and assign my emo behavior with my scum meta yeye idc really i just want out. GG im town. Actually yeah, I read your filter from dota 2 a few days ago and I remember emo posts like that.
This is going to sound strange but his post reminded me of HM 3 where Skynx/ NU got into an argument. Specifically this post:
On September 10 2016 03:39 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 03:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:On September 10 2016 03:15 Skynx wrote:
3 ppl spend 3 pages discussing simplest mechanics literally.
You get lynched, you can cop check for that night. Once per game only one of those who get lynched can vigi shot instead of a check.
You get nk'd, you can protect someone following night.
Anyway don't want to stir up mechanics discussion again but might aswell put my stance on it.
I mean write whatever you want on your message, it can get manipulated so doesn't really matter what you put in it. However dead can decide on their collective vote accordingly to the message, if it is unchanged then their vote will be manipulated that they know for sure. If it is changed then you know your vote is safe. All of this is obvious and has already been said. Looks like a filler/fluff post. I'm so close to ignoring you forever. Shall i just lend you my password and let you play from my account? Anything I write seems to be inadequate for your whatever righteousness-o-meter. I let you know how I'm playing, I read through and comment on what I like and you keep saying "that's been mentioned", "fluff/filler post" whatever. As i said those 3 literally spent 3 pages filling their filter with stuff about mechanics and you call this one post useless.
tl;dr: Skynx telling NU to STFU was way more townie that game than here.
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Also I've only skimmed a few pages of Rels' filter in 72hrs. I'm not super-convinced since he seems to play very similarly as both alignments (from what I've seen so far) but I noticed that a) his points against players are basic as fuck, b) he throws more shade/ doubt than he does here, c) is more malleable.
Well I got point b from that JAT game but that's just from opening posts because no way am I reading 29 fucking pages.
Not really sure what Rels' point is unless he's saying "I am capable of making cases on lynchbait as scum and I'm not doing that here"
Which would make sense...given that's a reason that he town-reads me.
lmao
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On November 07 2016 21:26 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Skynx / Foreman / DF
I think the one who's not mafia in there just misread his rolecard.
lmao
I am not worried. The Investigative can just check among those three if they haven't done so already.
If we lynch scum today (likely given we have Skynx here) then we can probably win this by not being complete morons with role-claims. Just get the scummy players to claim wherever they are TPR or VT first or something and go from there.
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On November 07 2016 21:44 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2016 21:10 Calix wrote:
Also I've only skimmed a few pages of Rels' filter in 72hrs. I'm not super-convinced since he seems to play very similarly as both alignments (from what I've seen so far) but I noticed that a) his points against players are basic as fuck, b) he throws more shade/ doubt than he does here, c) is more malleable.
Well I got point b from that JAT game but that's just from opening posts because no way am I reading 29 fucking pages.
Not really sure what Rels' point is unless he's saying "I am capable of making cases on lynchbait as scum and I'm not doing that here"
Which would make sense...given that's a reason that he town-reads me.
lmao I don't understand the last sentence p: My point is that when I play scum I'm the opposite of here: my reads look good 'cause I always position myself to be a scum survivor, but my arguments don't make people scum. Here you're attacking me on my ExO read because it was "badly timed" let's say, which is something I don't do as scum. I'll tell you what I would have done; exactly what I did in the JAT game; continue attacking my target (Tumblewood in JAT, DF here) until he's finally lynched 'cause when you scream that someone is scummy for enough days, they always end up being lynched at some point.
What I was trying to say there is that my read on your play is kind of like your read on my play. Basically we are kind-of-but-not-really suspecting each other because "they r like rly gud at scum but they're not playing to their scum meta...but still might be scum cos they're rly gud"
Although yeah, I was informed that you can be relentless as scum. That's something I picked up from what other people said about you more than anything else though.
Even with that said, I am not sure if you, as scum, would have picked me of all people as your fall-back target if Foreman, etc is town since a shit-fight between the two of us would likely result in you losing <3
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On November 08 2016 01:44 Tictock wrote:
Yea this is kinda bleh.
I feel like I could go either way with Skynx's emo posts, but his actual content doesn't inspire much confidence. The case on NU looks more like he just grabbed posts out of NU's filter and threw in comments than a real read. The lack of any other reads is worrysome, no real explanation on why he thinks I'm town now (I think that's the case) or why he doesn't like Darth. There is also irony there since half his case on NU is that NU is dropping reads without giving reasons.
The only thing that is giving me pause atm, and it's more WIFOM thinking so take it with some salt, is that if the scumteam is Skynx/Foreman then why the hell is this game still going?
Huh?
Skynx is still active and none of the mafia have died yet. Why would the game have stopped?
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But yes, I agree that if the scum team is Skynx/ Foreman and one of them dies today then game should end in an hour because it's inevitable that town would win in that scenario.
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I don't understand how you can possibly have doubts about Skynx after his re-entrance. There is no overarching town motivation behind his posts and his meta doesn't match up to his town meta. Also don't see how being passive-aggressive is a town tell.
You literally do not need to see if every single post comes from town/ mafia. You only need one post where someone makes a post that makes no sense for town to make and it's game over. Case closed. Alignment solved.
I don't actually give a shit which one dies today. I just can't believe that you think Skynx has a chance at being town.
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On November 08 2016 02:18 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2016 02:14 Calix wrote:
I don't understand how you can possibly have doubts about Skynx after his re-entrance. There is no overarching town motivation behind his posts and his meta doesn't match up to his town meta. Also don't see how being passive-aggressive is a town tell.
You literally do not need to see if every single post comes from town/ mafia. You only need one post where someone makes a post that makes no sense for town to make and it's game over. Case closed. Alignment solved.
I don't actually give a shit which one dies today. I just can't believe that you think Skynx has a chance at being town. Didn't you say something about his entry matching his town meta before? There's also one post I've noted in DF's filter that pretty much townclears him if I'm good. So I really think that the scum team is Skynx / Foreman atm. If it is, it means that you'll have to endure me bragging that I had both as scum-reads day 1 for the next couple weeks. The only reason I'm keeping my vote on Foreman is because my vote shows up first in the VC, and it'll look good when he flips red.
If you mean my read with him talking shit about everyone then yes. Otherwise not sure what you'd refer to. That also isn't something that makes him 100% town, no questions, otherwise I would have said that.
Good thing I already made the decision to ignore you then.
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lol TT. You are the reason that this game isn't going to end prematurely, let me just say that now 
I'm almost hoping that one of these two wankers is town. Then the game will actually become interesting again and there'll be more discussion.
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He's not even voting Foreman to save himself, wtf.
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On November 08 2016 02:38 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2016 02:14 Calix wrote:
I don't understand how you can possibly have doubts about Skynx after his re-entrance. There is no overarching town motivation behind his posts and his meta doesn't match up to his town meta. Also don't see how being passive-aggressive is a town tell.
You literally do not need to see if every single post comes from town/ mafia. You only need one post where someone makes a post that makes no sense for town to make and it's game over. Case closed. Alignment solved.
I don't actually give a shit which one dies today. I just can't believe that you think Skynx has a chance at being town. I'm not sure why I'm suddenly getting cold feet, I still feel like I have decent reasons to TR everyone but them so I'm probably just being paranoid. Stampeding through their filters right before lynch is prob not helping me much there either.
Because you are TT and randomly flip-flopping on your reads is how you roll.
From what I've seen of your play in a grand total of three games, that is.
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On November 08 2016 02:41 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2016 02:33 Calix wrote:lol TT. You are the reason that this game isn't going to end prematurely, let me just say that now I'm almost hoping that one of these two wankers is town. Then the game will actually become interesting again and there'll be more discussion. If there is a chance than one of them is town in your mind, shouldn't we lynch Foreman since Skynx is at least posting content? albeit not much
You missed the joke. I think both of them are scum.
Skynx is never town with those posts.
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On November 08 2016 02:42 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2016 02:41 Tictock wrote:On November 08 2016 02:33 Calix wrote:lol TT. You are the reason that this game isn't going to end prematurely, let me just say that now I'm almost hoping that one of these two wankers is town. Then the game will actually become interesting again and there'll be more discussion. If there is a chance than one of them is town in your mind, shouldn't we lynch Foreman since Skynx is at least posting content? albeit not much You missed the joke. I think both of them are scum. Skynx is never town with those posts.
Well it wasn't really a joke, but I wasn't being 100% serious either. So whatever you call that.
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This can win the award for "most boring EOD 2016"
You know it's bad when I am basically shit-posting and nothing else.
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On November 08 2016 02:51 NeverUnlucky wrote:
The sad part is that Skynx probably asked the hosts to concede but because Foreman is AWOL, the hosts could not end the game.
Probably right.
Well I had fun for most of the game at least, so it doesn't bother me.
One day the Calix/ Rels shit-fight will become a thing
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