EPTOn December 03 2016 19:38 Tictock wrote:
Here is the world where Shape/CM8/SL/Onegu are all town.
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Here is the world where Shape/CM8/SL/Onegu are all town.
You think you are an evil dragon?
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mahrgell
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Holyflare
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mahrgell
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I quickly skimmed over SL, thought my list I did in the night was actually reasonably okay, but my judgement somehow dropped again on him. This list is actually quite damn bad for SL. Bad enough to put him above anyone else. so... ##vote sicklucker About Shlog: Uh... I read his defense now (finally...) looked at the HF questions... and stay puzzled. Honestly I think HFs list is trash. This is not because I believe shlog is somehow magically townconfirmed. To me shlog is coinflip, maybe slightly biased towards scum. But this whole list of "weird stuff" looks more like confirmation bias than anything else. There are a lot of things off with shlog. But this is just completely overblown. If you are not interested in leaving a player wiggle room... Just let it be. If you are asking a player for explanations, give him room to breathe. If anyone really believes in this list of 30 obvious scumslips/contradictions from shlog, I have to question your critical and openminded thinking. And somehow I understand now where shlogs initial post was coming from, where he talked about peoples motivation when reading his defense. It is almost amusing, that exactly what he described there happened later. About HF: honestly, absolutely no motivation to read him. He won't die anyway today, so I'm not doing it. Overall: If you ask me for scumpairs, I would right now lean towards SL-shlog, SL-HF, one of the three + CM8/Onegu. Imho TT is not fully cleared yet, so he is part of my more serious tinfoil variations but we are not there yet. Oh and of course the Emp+DF/Rels evil team of doom possibility should be explored. Of those mentioned. If shlog flips red, I think there is no way HF can be scum though. I also have troubles imagining stuff like SL+TT right now. | ||
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mahrgell
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As I said, I believe shlog is a slightly scumleaning coinflip. I see a way higher probability (even though less than what I had in mind esterday in my first run through) for SL to flip red than SL. So I would prefer to go SL->shlog->HF right now. But well... I simply lack motivation to fight for that right now. If you guys want shlog first. so be it. I can accept it in a way now with shlog not returning, as having him around as a wildcrd later is potentially more dangerous than having SL, who at least gives some material. But this is a general issue I have right now. Basically my mind what to hunts after those players who have material, those who give me reasons to believe they are scum. But at the other hand going into lategame with all those contentless afk's is god damn scary. | ||
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Rels
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On December 03 2016 15:20 sicklucker wrote: my reads are still my dat one reads since he has not really posted since... Its kind of your guys job to know it. I still think hes fucking town because of his cop stuff. Something a mafia would never do. That read still stands to this day because theres no reason to freakin change it. This doesn't make sense. This is a forced read. This amkes me think very much of Skynx' ExO read last game, where scum!Skynx just decided to townread town!ExO (exo was super scummy and was lynched D1) for bad reasons that he couldn't properly explain. The cop stuff is NAI in my opinion. And if we admit it could be townie, it's not something that should go against everything else SHape has done. | ||
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Rels
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On December 03 2016 15:31 sicklucker wrote: and rels you find it weird that I vote with someone I think is maybe scumat the time emp?? on someone im like 90% sure is scum and at the top of my list? I didnt really even think emp was likely mafia more null I just had alot of town reads at the time out of the people who were posting. alot of people had not posted at that time . I was town reading koshi/hf/onegu/ls/shapelog everyone else who was posting pretty much except for that person so I just through in a "maybe" instead of a fucking null category Nope. The two scummy things were your "I could get behind a NU lynch" in reaction to EC making a post on NU, when you ALREADY scumread him; and you null/scumreading EC when he made the same points than you on NU but deeper. In addition I don't believe you think people scumreading you makes you town, you know a lot of people scumread you D1 as town. | ||
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Rels
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Thinking on voting SL over Shape. We'll see what Shape does when he goes back. | ||
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mahrgell
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On December 03 2016 20:56 Rels wrote: Another thing on SL is that he had ZERO town spree, like he usually does in 100% of his town games. When he finds that one stupid (or sometimes crazily good) thing and tunnel on it for posts and posts. Thinking on voting SL over Shape. We'll see what Shape does when he goes back. What do you mean by that? Like SLs meta is still a riddle to me, and the one game linked earlier was absolutely nothing like him in this game. But this game he one post tunneled NU into afk vote and then tunneled DF(I can follow those arguments, just don't agree with them). | ||
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Rels
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On December 03 2016 21:11 mahrgell wrote: What do you mean by that? Like SLs meta is still a riddle to me, and the one game linked earlier was absolutely nothing like him in this game. But this game he one post tunneled NU into afk vote and then tunneled DF(I can follow those arguments, just don't agree with them). I'll find examples when I'm in front of a PC. Basically sicklucker has this distinct way of doing a lot of posts over a single thing and that's kinda his town thing. He has a very hard time replicating it as scum and when he tries it usually looks forced. | ||
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sicklucker
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On December 03 2016 19:38 Tictock wrote: Here is the world where Shape/CM8/SL/Onegu are all town. I mean im pretty sure thats this world lol. well 35% ish cm8 is a flip rest are town a bunch of the time | ||
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sicklucker
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On December 03 2016 20:53 Rels wrote: Nope. The two scummy things were your "I could get behind a NU lynch" in reaction to EC making a post on NU, when you ALREADY scumread him; and you null/scumreading EC when he made the same points than you on NU but deeper. In addition I don't believe you think people scumreading you makes you town, you know a lot of people scumread you D1 as town. I scum read him but I had yet to decide on my vote... when i saw other people also wanted him lynche I figured he was a good palce to park my vote since I didnt plan on being around. I dont see why that is "scummy" | ||
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And then you ignore the meta that i always find unpopular out of the box reasons to scum read people and thats what im fucking doing here | ||
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On December 03 2016 21:15 Rels wrote: I'll find examples when I'm in front of a PC. Basically sicklucker has this distinct way of doing a lot of posts over a single thing and that's kinda his town thing. He has a very hard time replicating it as scum and when he tries it usually looks forced. YOU MEAN LIKE I did to try to get the lynch off shapelog onto darth and everyone ignored it so I stopped trying? im pretty sure I filled two fucking pages inarow | ||
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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Mar you've been a crazy antagonistic person for no reason. You suspect me of being mafia and seem to be exceedingly obsessed with people's personalities rather than the content they post and when I do in fact start posting questions and content you insult the content with no real reasons why. Is this how you expect to motivate me to post more? How about you do something for me for a change that will help me contribute more and maybe actually give you an opinion on me instead of you shutting the door on ant possibility that you could actually be wrong about something? Go through my list of questions and explain why it's trash and useless and why it's not applicable? | ||
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Tictock
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SL your Shape read is totally based on his second post where he "claimed" Cop right? If you ignore that what is your read on Shape? Kus I swear to you that it is totally NAI for him to do that. Otherwise it sounds like you live in a world where the last 2 mafia are between Darth/Rels and myself, correct? | ||
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