EPTOn December 01 2016 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh just a huge list of NU spews lmao.
Oh just a huge list of NU spews lmao.
Should make you think, when someone compiles a list of your spews and it is >100000 characters.
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Should make you think, when someone compiles a list of your spews and it is >100000 characters. | ||
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But I have something else giving my strong vibes on Rels alignment, just wanna keep it for now... | ||
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so do you think Rels is bad town or does that make him scum? Not sure where you are going here. Like you lock SL to be scum, then do you think Rels is desperately trying to defend him here? Or do you just think he is doing terrible "reads"? | ||
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Just update me, I get that you are on the "Rels is scum" train, but who else would you pick as second scum right now? Or who are the likely candidates for you? | ||
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And it confuses the hell out of me what Rels is arguing here. I should probably stop townreading people for making completely outlandish and weird reads... Soon I'm out of targets if I continue doing that. Unless its the axis of inactivity, shlog+cm8 (would be a shame and a waste of time ^.^) @Rels really, can you post some stuff not related to NUs filter... I don't feel like this is getting us anywhere right now. | ||
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Is he always such a tunnel dweller? He spends the first 36 hours with nobody except me, then goes on with focusing on Rels entirely. There is like one comment on DF, and a 2 post conversation with Koshi in his filter. All questions outside of that are blocked with excuses of him being too lazy to do that. Like his entire play can be seen as a super tunnely townie, or a scum player who uses the tunnel excuse to never talk about anything else. I guess he is on my Neut-pile too. Gimme vig, and I will shoot him for his name butchery though. | ||
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On December 01 2016 23:51 Rels wrote: I will have a quick point about it. HF and marhgell in particular, you are very, very annoying to play with, regardless of your alignment. STOP asking me to do things. Marghell you don't know that, HF you do, I'm super active when I have time to play. In particular, calling me "bad town or scum" is making me want to fucking quit. You don't agree with the things I've said ? Fine. You think I'm scum ? OK. Stop telling me to do things that you prefer me to be doing and stop being calling me bad or scum. I know it's hypocritical 'cause I tend to do the same but I try to not do it when I catch myself doing it. Okay, I will try. Sorry. Given my own rather emotional reactions to similar instances I can understand you here. | ||
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On December 01 2016 06:48 Onegu wrote: HF TT SL Darthfolly the next group is like NU LS Shape. Uhm, besides one other long post from earlier, this was the only game related post in Onegus filter. Quite an achievement. Anyway, Onegu... I honestly have no fucking clue how you came to your townreads... And I also wonder, with your scumreads being cleared by the flip (or so you said)... Where are you now? I would love you having a sorted list telling us who your town/scumreads are in order, and like at least one line how you came to that conclusion. | ||
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On December 02 2016 01:23 Tictock wrote: Having internet issues at home so I'm better Nguyen forced to read and post via mobile. Means I won't be doing the filter dives of death and Shape that I wanted too. Thinking about the game this morning I'm thinking the answer might be as easy as Shape/Ch8. Otherwise I have a hard time seeing what mafia was doing in the latter half of the day as NU became the lynch. Checkm8 is also reminding me a bit of foreman from last game, who was a newbie that rolled scum and gave up posting after a day when he realized he had no way to keep up. It's possible Onegu is scum but his posts right after the lynch seem fairly towns to me actually. He was more happy about his own filter length than having caught scum. I feel like scum would feel more pressure to fake being happy about the lynch. LOL If this is true, there is the possibility the game ends in few hours. Nobody is killed, because scum fails to vote a kill. Instead Shlog and CM8 get modkilled for failing to post, after being already warned for failing to vote. Game ends, 0 town lost. Just thinking about this possibility kills my motivation to do my last 2 filter dives. -.- | ||
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On December 02 2016 02:04 emperorchampion wrote: Let's not get ahead of our selves since there's a lot of tin-foil that could be out there. I am fully aware. But my last game, I died N1, but the game ended D2, because one scum went inactive and got modkilled, and the other one was an easylynch D2 without defending himself. I thought it can't be shorter. So I'm just tinfoiling a possibility how it can be shorter in this game. I don't think (and hope) this is gonna happen but while the idea is demotivating I still enjoy it, if you know what I mean :D | ||
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 Or call it reverse tinfoiling. Lemme be, but let's drop this. This isn't getting us anywhere. | ||
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You said you suspected TT at end of town, but now I don't see how he fits in your new scenarios... What do you make of him? | ||
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On December 02 2016 02:45 darthfoley wrote: EC, Mahrgell and SL???? REALLY? EC and mahrgell were town read pretty hard by everyone, and SL wasn't going to happen D1. These were terrible scum reads for the purpose of starting another actual wagon. Don't know how you think this is him actually trying to get out of a lynch. Seems very obvious to me that he was playing for the team. Not that I disagree with your general idea, but imho this part is factually incorrect. At this point, I had still said, that EC was one of my scumreads, if NU is green. I actually lobbied for opinion for Emp vs EC from pretty much everyone. And I'm pretty sure to recall that Emp was distrusted by others too. Just the redflip made everyone hardtown Emp. Similarly, myself. Just from my own feeling, I felt like I wasn't getting lynched anytime soon. (so same category as SL, I guess) But others may correct me, but I don't think I was close to top town on many lists. | ||
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And now to the general idea. Pure feeling dictated me exactly this idea too. It was pretty much the idea with which I went into my diving session this morning. (then I got distracted by Rels -.-) It just... lead to nowhere. If he was doing it for towncred, then whos towncred? Emp? Yeah, he got a shit ton of towncred from it. But I really believe he is town :D Koshi? Quite similar. Like I can see a lot of tinfoils involving Koshi. But I will let those rest for now. SL? Did he even get towncred from it? lol. Like you make it sound like this was some great elaborate bussing play with NU taking one for the team. This does not fit SLs play at all. Like I'm really not sold on him, and given his contributions so far he is pretty much on the same level as HF and CM8 for me... But if that is the case, then it certainly isn't a great elaborate play but pure chaos. Myself? I have great insider infos telling me that this isn't the case. Or towncred via on of his spews? If this was the case... It may actually be worth looking at who pointed out which spew. Doing this and hoping that town finds thsoe spews sounds like an awful idea. But if it is really this, then you could find both scum at once here. | ||
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On November 30 2016 01:42 LightningStrike wrote: Tone of TvT feels more natural while TvM feels unnatural ie like something feels forced by one side. EC vs NU seems like TvM on tone. I will look into more later when I get on a computer because quoting posts is a pain in the assignment on mobile. yep HF is spot on here. This is 4 hours before the post he just quoted and a bit after his initial TvM claim. | ||
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On December 02 2016 03:13 LightningStrike wrote: Cant remember if anyone asked me on that. It was me, and I was so nice to bring up a reminder a few posts up. | ||
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Let's do it quick this time - D1 lazy scum or lazy town, after rereading I still feel lazy town is more likely, there was one large list post which read well but had it obvious flaws as pointed out earlier - his ending of the day looked strange, but it follows this "lazy ..." stuff. - his N1 looks more active, finally. What I lack here is a clear direction. Like I see statements, judgements, but it ends here. Him going with "lets kill the 3 afks" fits the lazy scum narrative, but at the same time you can't ask afks, so well... I can somehow get behind that too So from only this, TT is just another fish in the neut pool for me. BUT... there is one thing... that confused me and I would like to have answers: Here HF is a townlean, although very weirdly put. (this was mentioned by several players) Before EoD, when he settled on the NU lynch now HF could very well be mafia. I don't read this as a direct contradiction to his first post, although I can see this being scummish to move of a read which was called out a lot for waffling. But that is not what I'm after. In his first content post after EoD now he wants to build a towncircle with Koshi, Rels (both locktown in his initial list), me (explained in that post) and HF. Where does HF come from? He didn't mention HF at all. HF certainly did not suddenly look better because NU flipped scum. And I didn't see any great posts from HF between EoD and TTs post to explainn this change of mind either. But somehow suddenly TT wanted to town circle with HF? I would love to know how this came together. | ||
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LOL, I just clicked that post again. He actually mentioned why he hardtowns HF. -.- So lets drp all this, and just call TT lazy neut with a minor town lean. | ||
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At this point his filter just reads well. Like fluent well thought out points, a clear train of thought. The COPCHECK stuff is pretty wifom to interpret so not getting into that. Like he has absolutely nothing to make me doubt him, but due to his lack of commital it is also hard to completely townlock him. Solid townlean it is. | ||
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Scummish: Shlog - I read him after a lot was said against him, felt like those allegations were true. If there was a lynch, I would lynch him. But I want to read him again during the day in a less biased state of mind. I just don't like this guy HF - His number of posts does not really change his lack of real activity. Has been on 2 tunnels so far and openly celebrates his unwillingness to look deeper at other players or do anything besides tunneling. Oh and if I would be undecided between him and anyone else I would policy lynch him for this alone. This followup makes me actually feel very bad about him. Exchanging "i'm not being a dick and wont try to make you uncomfortable" for "don't scumread me" is quite pathetic. Additionally him claiming himself to be toptown (have I mentioned I hate that?) without basically anything speaking for that feels almost like baiting for protection. I don't see a world where scum would lynch him. The Pool of Neuts (which is somehow very connected with the pool of barely actives..) CM8 - Nothing to say. The main reason I feel negative about him is the lack of targets and there has to be 2 scums. Also the afk scum story would kinda explain this weird D1. Even if he upgrades, I wouldn't send him to lylo! TT - again, low activity makes him difficult to judge. He is in a similar place with CM8, but general feeling on him is a tad better. I can see him easily make a better impression later and worth keeping around to lylo SL - He is kinda different from the other 2. If he is scum, I absolutely don't understand his play. If he is town, I don't understand it either but may call it most lazy. He is certainly not the guy I would want to go to lylo with. Onegu - Almost forgot about him... I still have some open question to him somewhere... No reason to scumread him, but besides this NU-interaction which I'm not so certain about there is also no reason to townread him either Let's be friends... for now Rels - this may come as a surprise... But Explanation is at bottom of the list. Koshi - I certainly don't want to see him before D4 for his NU involvement. Then I will start to massively tinfoil him and I will vote him over anybody at lylo. DF - Reads all around well. I like him. My filter dive was not with full brain capacity and I havent seen anything to lock him town, but I feel good with him. LS - uhm, I admit I lazily read him. Probably among the first to reevaluate. I felt his interaction with NU can't be MvM. But there has been some stuff against him, and his wrong defense(he did exactly what HF said but claimed it not to be that) vs HFs argument unsettled me. Wanna marry me? Emp - Emp vs NU was not MvM. period. Absolute end of story. If it was, I somehow end in lylo with Emp and lose, I offer my sig for whatever they want. regarding Rels: there was something I noticed earlier, but I wanted more reactions from others regarding him after my "case" on him, as I felt this discussion was still potentially productive regarding others people alignment. This post I can absolutely not see from scum. case1: Rels is scum with SL. Rels should absolutely know this bus is in SLs range if the scumQT has more than 10 posts. And he/they should know others will point that out correctly. Unlike this is the failed spew of the century... NO WAY case2: Rels is scum, SL is not. Why make this comment? SL is one of the main lynch candidates with Koshi on his ass. There is no need to say that. Even if he believes this to be true, just don't say anything. If he knows it is false, even worse. People will prove him wrong and he looks shit. Or people won't do it and he just did a great contribution to prevent a mislynch. This is only one isolated thing though. But sometimes it needs just one big thing to convince me. Like if his entire play feels scummy I will rethink this at some point. But certainly not now! | ||
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