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On December 06 2016 01:56 sicklucker wrote: still hf is really wrong about everything this game including emp being scum
Why is Emp town for you?
His early play today made me waffle a bit on my scumread since he was mimicking my own thoughts. Then again I still believe it's possible for him to be mafia here.
Hell I can even understand Onegu wanting to lynch him for how many questions he is asking without actually giving his own thoughts on stuff. Like one list post with no reasoning and then multiple "What do you think" posts so far today.
Plus he went from "Let's not lynch into Rels/SL" into "Rels claim doesn't make sense"
Actually come to think of it it's odd he didn't really question your claim at all but went looking into the validity of Rel's claim.
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On December 06 2016 02:11 sicklucker wrote: Like I said at first I just assumed we were in a jailkeeper world since I didnt even bother to read the op like always. later when i realised it I used that to make the fakeclaim convning for mafia they didnt bite. which is another unfortunate event like rels play that has doomed us. I figured I could sell it with my hardon for Hf and I was the only one who made any sense to save him/
Mafia knowing the setup makes sense since they have more information but that didnt occur to me tbh. well this blows
Wait, why did you assume there was even a JK if you didn't read the OP?
And what has Rels done to doom anything?
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On December 06 2016 02:17 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2016 02:15 Rels wrote:On December 06 2016 02:11 sicklucker wrote: Like I said at first I just assumed we were in a jailkeeper world since I didnt even bother to read the op like always. later when i realised it I used that to make the fakeclaim convning for mafia they didnt bite. which is another unfortunate event like rels play that has doomed us. I figured I could sell it with my hardon for Hf and I was the only one who made any sense to save him/
Mafia knowing the setup makes sense since they have more information but that didnt occur to me tbh. well this blows This makes no sense. You just don't "assume" we live in a jailkeeper world. This has no explanation, this is not even SETUP 1, which would be more udnerstandable. Actually there is an explanation: TMI. You knew we were in a JK world and you slipped. If you didn't read the OP, I don't know why uou assume a JK was in the game. THAT MAKES NO SENSE making assumptions is literally all i do in mafia dude. your gonna be so salty when I flip vt.. Just remember when that happens it was part your fault for assuming I was mafia and not giving me a chance to recind by rescinding BEFORE THE DAY EVEN FUCKING STARTS
So if you saw Rels claim EoN and were around to make that one post after day started, why not come clean then?
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On December 06 2016 02:27 Rels wrote: Basically you changed versions twice already. Stop trying mate.
You're going to get lynched. You were the scummiest player alive BEFORE the fakeclaim. And the town explanation behind the fakeclaim makes no sense when the scum explanation does: you TMI slipped, then you fakeclaimed at a weird time to gain towncred and making the real JK cc since you were probably the next lynch, then now your best bet at not getting lynched is rescinding. IDK if you always thought of rescinding or not, I suppose you were waiting to see what was the best option.
And that's jsut taking into account the fakeclaim, which by itself should get you lynched. Before that you were already soooo scummy. So basically you're dead.
So STOP DEFENDING YOURSELF. Go and take the 30 hours you have and find scum if you're really the unluckiest town ever. You're not getting out of today alive.
This 100%
Go Go Rels!
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On December 06 2016 02:28 emperorchampion wrote: I just can't wrap my head around how sl's fake claim has town intent. I guess I'll believe his reasons if he flips green.
This is such a mafia post, you don't call out someone fake claiming with 0 Town intent then imply they are gunna flip green.
Starting to buy the world of Emp/SL here.
If we can be sure Onegu is town then you guys can even lynch between me/Emp/SL.
I'm not sure I can buy Gell or Darth being scum. I could see HF maybe still, but I can follow his train of thought pretty well today. Besides half my read on him is just paranoia.
With Rels being JK I think you guys should be forming a town circle between Rels/Gell/Darth and trying to rule out mafia from there.
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On December 06 2016 02:48 emperorchampion wrote: Look mafia hasn't done shit this game. They can't even get a single mislynch. We were generous by giving them our cop for free, our jailkeeper for free, and two free mislynches. AND they still might lose. The only way mafia will win is if town flounders around enough and can't get their shit together.
Actually this burst of activity today looks very much like Town getting it's shit together. What do you mean "gave our cop up"?
Very odd post.
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On December 06 2016 03:42 Holyflare wrote: You're like a terrible robot ticktock that has to make posts that sheep people and be politically correct and clinical. There's no passion in you and absolutely no tinfoil on these claims.
I miss the old lynch on day 1 you man.
Insult not registered. Comeback sequence deactivated. Baseline snarkyness engaged.
I'm catching up. I know my way of doing this can piss you off but I'm high for like the first time in the last week so am just posting what I think.
Right now I'm still a few pages behind but am feeling good about where we are going even with my death as part of the plan.
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On December 06 2016 03:46 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2016 03:26 Holyflare wrote: Emperor what do you make of all the claims? Take a stance bro. Right now my stance looks like this: 1. Rels 9. mahrgell 6. darthfoley 12. Tictock 2. Holyflare 4. Onegu 11. sicklucker
Wtf, how did HF drop so much in your reads without you interacting with him this whole time?
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On December 06 2016 03:52 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2016 03:35 Tictock wrote:
Also @ Gell What about my play makes you think I'm just waiting for Onegu to post? Did I just wait around D2 waiting for Shape as well? You acknowledge Onegus vote and wait for Onegu to case you twice... And simply ignore the stuff thats already out there. Why you ask him out? Why not come for me or respond there. Even Emp clearly had doubts here. Why not ask him why he distrusts you? Making it look like a lynch on you only depends on an afk is just... beh. And really not a first in this game... Like most your "interaction" this game has been with afks... Talking to people who can respond is more fruitful... Show nested quote +On December 05 2016 07:43 Tictock wrote:On December 05 2016 07:22 Onegu wrote:On December 05 2016 07:19 mahrgell wrote:On December 05 2016 07:11 Rels wrote:On December 05 2016 07:05 emperorchampion wrote: I think we leave Rels/sl since having the jk alive is pretty good, mafia has to target them at some point. If we can find the partner then the game is actually 100% over. That might be a good idea actually. If we ever kill the other scum the game is over If you are JK and not Scum, you are dead next night. Or he can be town and trying to eat a shot... there are other options... its wifom and we should figure it out later... Exactly it's all a pile of WIFOM that is best just left aside for now. I'm more interested in hearing why you think I'm scum now. Show nested quote +On December 05 2016 13:11 Tictock wrote:On December 05 2016 07:49 emperorchampion wrote: Unless I'm off base with darth/mahrgell this game is really down to Onegu v TT. If Onegu can make a convincing case, then this game could be in a very very good position. Good to know my life is in Onegu's hands. Better be a good case if I'm gunna get hanged for it.
That last quate was me being snarky at Emps post because he was basically saying he thought I was Scum but was waiting for Onegu to case me.
Otherwise I've just been posting as I see fit and pushing Onegu to case me.
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On December 06 2016 03:56 Holyflare wrote: No.
Look at this.
Sl = mafia fake claiming jk, never in a million years does he send kp. Jk rels blocks me. I'm confirmed town.
Deal with it.
Yep this is actually pretty fucking solid
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On December 06 2016 04:07 Holyflare wrote: Yes?
Yea probably.
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On December 06 2016 04:25 sicklucker wrote:I was going to unclaim 1 minute before deadline but I was late. fucking hilliarious rels probably got the idea from me in previous games. its bad in his spot tho. so very bad prevents the fucking cc. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/EWWXVST.gif)
Lol you deserve kudos points for such a good gif choice here.
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On December 06 2016 04:27 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2016 04:25 sicklucker wrote:On December 06 2016 04:24 Rels wrote:On December 06 2016 03:42 Holyflare wrote: You're like a terrible robot ticktock that has to make posts that sheep people and be politically correct and clinical. There's no passion in you and absolutely no tinfoil on these claims.
I miss the old lynch on day 1 you man. ++ I think TT is the last scum Why the fuck would he defend me when the vote count is 2 votes for sl and 2 votes for ticktock. wtf garbage are you spewing Cause it s so scummy it has to be town right. + I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about his reads all game. So careful, so logical. HF & Rels & marhgell & LS are all super town! Doesn't make sense for TT. The more I think about it the more I'm convinced.
I thought I had pretty solid reasons for Them. Maybe not very much so on LS but it felt like NU legit went after him right off which is pretty good.
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On December 06 2016 04:32 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2016 04:29 mahrgell wrote: But this really reminds me, that there is still wildcard Onegu in the game... GNAAAAAAAA
And where is DF? ... Sadly both of them has shown that they are capable to just disappear as town )= I would never lynch them over EC / TT right now. But since I will confirm one tomorrow and the other will be lynched, the next day if the game isn't over you can bring them up.
So from your perspective I bussed my entire team D1?
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On December 06 2016 04:36 sicklucker wrote: or for fuck sakes onegu or darthfoley can be the jailkeeper. lololol
Nope Onegu would have claimed when he voted me and I'm mostly sure Darth chimed in right at Daystart.
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On December 06 2016 04:39 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2016 04:37 Tictock wrote:On December 06 2016 01:01 Rels wrote:On December 06 2016 00:07 mahrgell wrote:On December 05 2016 20:47 Rels wrote:On December 05 2016 20:29 mahrgell wrote:On December 05 2016 20:20 Rels wrote: marhgell, the probability that SL fakeclaimed at night is like 0.01%; it's low to begin with, but here he posted after the night ended and didn't rescind his claim, which is the first thing he would have done as town. You are really making me hate you right now. If he is VT, fakeclaiming... Then for sure as hell he will not rescind his claim at day AFTER you claimed. VT fakeclaiming will rescind when there is no CC. But when there is a CC, he basically has to go with it... And somehow hope scum is confused with the number of options. This was basically my reasoning on why I was willing to drop the discussion... But well... yeah, by now even the last scum has probably figured this shit out. You're not thinking logically. You gotta read this: IF SICKLUCKER IS TOWN AND FAKECLAIMING TO DRAW A BULLET HE WILL RESCIND IF HE S COUNTERCLAIMED DURING THE DAY. Why would he not ? Why would he try to get me lynched when he KNOWS I'm the Jailkeeper ? Your reasonning doesn't make any sense When did he try to get you lynched??? Not seeing it. Actually the thread consensus was to leave you both alone. And in this atmosphere, if he believes you are both protown, he should keep his claim for maximum uncertainity on who is the real one. So again, who is not making sense here? He didnt rescind his claim when he quoted my claim -> he is putting town in a claim ear situation for no reason + I'm also a possible Lynch if people believe he's jk over me. You're the one not making sense. You might have a really defined idea in your head but listen to people who have experience: sicklucker is NOT VT. You can decode he's jk or you can decide I'm jk. What made you so sure SL was keeping his claim and or pushing you? I went back and checked, SL made one post after Daypost and it doesn't really mean anything. I could see SL not even seeing your claim or being like me and missing you sticking to your claim. I also find it odd that you so readily agreed to Emps post about leaving you and SL alive but now have 180'd on him with only one pretty throwaway post from SL. I'm not doubting your claim unless an actual CC happens, but right now there is way too much jumping to conclusions when we should use the time we have to work through things more carefully. Cause he made a post and didn't rescind his claim. I didn't turn around on the SL one post, I turn around because I slept and thought about it
Fair enough.
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On December 06 2016 05:49 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2016 11:49 Tictock wrote: Rels and HF's little argument at EoD makes me town read them so hard. Not only does it just look like TvT but I can't believe either of them would pull that shit as scum when their buddy was being lynched. That's the shitty read I was remembering about. Nobody townread us both at that point, and that's a bad reason to think we're both town. That's just a very safe read towards the players he perceives as the strongest.
I'm glad you are getting familiar with my early reads. It's looking like they were really fucking good to me right now.
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On December 06 2016 06:32 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2016 06:31 darthfoley wrote: Also if sl is town, it's kind of a bs selfish play to fake claim jk just to survive an extra day or two. JK could've stayed hidden longer and we weren't in a myol. If you were trying to do some meta play, mafia obviously didn't fall for it which brings me back to my point of why try it in the first place.
I guess it does stir the pot, but idk if the pot needed to be stirred yes and i would have unclaimed at the start of the day. rels beat me too it by claiming the at night lol
Humm I can sorta see this, though I feel like you left things way too open by not fussing up when Rels did claim.
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On December 06 2016 06:36 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2016 06:32 Tictock wrote:On December 06 2016 02:27 Rels wrote: Basically you changed versions twice already. Stop trying mate.
You're going to get lynched. You were the scummiest player alive BEFORE the fakeclaim. And the town explanation behind the fakeclaim makes no sense when the scum explanation does: you TMI slipped, then you fakeclaimed at a weird time to gain towncred and making the real JK cc since you were probably the next lynch, then now your best bet at not getting lynched is rescinding. IDK if you always thought of rescinding or not, I suppose you were waiting to see what was the best option.
And that's jsut taking into account the fakeclaim, which by itself should get you lynched. Before that you were already soooo scummy. So basically you're dead.
So STOP DEFENDING YOURSELF. Go and take the 30 hours you have and find scum if you're really the unluckiest town ever. You're not getting out of today alive. This 100% Go Go Rels! + Show Spoiler + Now you're saying we should lynch sl......???
Was more the telling SL to do shit and not just defend himself, but I warmed up to the idea a little.
I'm not totally sold yet though.
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On December 06 2016 07:02 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2016 06:42 Tictock wrote:On December 06 2016 02:28 emperorchampion wrote: I just can't wrap my head around how sl's fake claim has town intent. I guess I'll believe his reasons if he flips green. This is such a mafia post, you don't call out someone fake claiming with 0 Town intent then imply they are gunna flip green. Starting to buy the world of Emp/SL here. If we can be sure Onegu is town then you guys can even lynch between me/Emp/SL. I'm not sure I can buy Gell or Darth being scum. I could see HF maybe still, but I can follow his train of thought pretty well today. Besides half my read on him is just paranoia. With Rels being JK I think you guys should be forming a town circle between Rels/Gell/Darth and trying to rule out mafia from there. Why is onegu town? That's a bit out of no where.
He's not but everyone seems to be assuming he is.
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