|
On December 01 2016 04:05 emperorchampion wrote: I don't know what happened on my walk to the office.
I think we go NU -> Onegu -> ? .
NU, TT, Onegu.
That's where I'm at right now.
@ EVERYONE WHO HASN'T VOTED
There are a lot of viable candidates out there at the moment. Let's not be lazy and get our votes onto people so we can see where things really are.
|
On December 01 2016 04:14 Koshi wrote: The only other person except NU I am willing to vote for is Onegu.
I am not interested in anything else D1. I will lurk the thread, you can ask me questions, I am not doing shit anymore actively though. + Show Spoiler +
|
On December 01 2016 04:16 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2016 04:14 Koshi wrote: The only other person except NU I am willing to vote for is Onegu.
I am not interested in anything else D1. I will lurk the thread, you can ask me questions, I am not doing shit anymore actively though. Can you explain why TT is out of your equation if you think emperors posts on him were really good and you've been scum reading him forever??
I think I can explain since I'm in a similar boat: What NU and Onegu just posted on the past 2 pages or so is so crazy, even I think that Onegu is scum before TT at this moment in time.
|
Everything they posted screams of scum panicking and trying to get a lynch off somewhere else. Absolutely 0 town thinking from either of them. Trying to lynch me after multiple pages of people at very least "feeling better about me" is so out of line. It doesn't look like they're trying to solve the game, just look for things that could possibly make me look bad and run with it.
Complete panic in my opinion, and it will take A LOT to convince me otherwise.
|
On December 01 2016 04:20 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2016 04:08 Koshi wrote:On December 01 2016 04:04 NeverUnlucky wrote:On December 01 2016 04:04 Koshi wrote: Well you will lose vs EC everyday. But fine. You can get lynched. I am 100% town. I don't care about stupid statements like that. EC is obvious town. You knew it when you talked to him. You are forgetting it now because he is probably the easiest target that isn't mafia with you. His list is brilliant. I agree with everything he said. He has made a ton of posts that are more likely to come from town than mafia. And he did great analysis of posts + situations. And when he talks to you he always keeps an open mind but clearly tries to figure you out more. And when you talk to him you are defensive as fuck. But when he is not around you backstab him. If you are right and he is mafia and you are town. You got so outplayed you should be ashamed and full of respect. His list IS YOUR LIST. His stances are easy everywhere, just read my post, it shows him scum-reading all the inactive and trolly players and not being able to commit a read on LS me and mahr. When am I ever not defensive as fuck? You wrote your case on me when I was not around. You said that Rels is likely to be mafia when he was not around. I am not the one who is getting outplayed here if he is mafia, you are the one to TR him. Shame. SHame. Shame.
I will go on record here to say that mahr is super town atm.
|
Fair enough.
REMEMBER PEOPLE GET YOUR VOTES IN SOON
Let's keep things moving.
|
On December 01 2016 04:35 darthfoley wrote:I don't like how HF/Checkm8//Rels/Shapelog etc have peaced out  why is anyone townreading Checkm8? This man has been MIA for four years. Is this basically going to be a decision between NU vs. Onegu? Always get nervous when half the town disappears as the wagon forms. Meh paranoia.
Yeah hopefully people will show back up and mix things up a bit. So far I haven't seen anything to change my perspective on the game. For now we hold the line and see what comes out.
|
How is it 2hrs till deadline and half the game hasn't voted yet.
|
On December 01 2016 05:08 Holyflare wrote: I think I'm just wifoming myself out of reads though because it looks kind of straightforward otherwise.
Give us what you got and let's go from there
|
On December 01 2016 05:13 darthfoley wrote: I'm willing to vote for NU ATM if there aren't really viable trains on TT or sicklucker because of the promise of a treasure trove of info for the town. Can someone sell me on what info will be gleaned and why NU is the guy to gain that info from? Cuz there's been lots and back of forth on his alignment?
Let's not lynch for info. Let's lynch because we think they're scum. Information can be discussed afterwards.
Do you think that NU is scum? If not, then let's discuss some other options.
|
On December 01 2016 05:37 darthfoley wrote:Well I haven't had the time to properly look at his filter. Have some free time so i'll look at the case against him. The only thing that comes to mind is that both NU and Onegu pushed back on your TT case pretty hard. Considering that I found your case compelling, I was interested to hear their criticisms. I didn't like Onegu's particularly However i'm really fucking confused with this game. You're telling me to vote for scum not for info yet you've parked your wagon on the person you didn't properly case and that you've been waffling on. You've made multiple points about how TT likely mafia but i'm the one pushing a TT train, and you haven't joined on, even after posting this Show nested quote +On December 01 2016 03:18 emperorchampion wrote:On December 01 2016 03:12 NeverUnlucky wrote: Though I don't get how he can dedicate such thorough analysis on TT his scum-read and vote me because my actions make him feel uneasy. Think of it like activation energy at the moment. I'm possibly willing to move to TT, but I need a little push to get me out of my current state. I feel like there's something so off about today. Especially the inactivity for many players. I just don't know what it is
After this I went for a walk, and when I came back things were going to shit. NU is saying I'm town, then saying I'm not town and definietly mafia. Makes no sense. If he thinks I'm town, and wants to make a strong case to defend himself, why doesn't he go after TT? He was even scum reading TT iirc. That's what begins to solidify things in my mind for NU being mafia. Of course I'm not certain on anything, but it's the best I've got at the moment. A part of it is my town reads, they are all considering NU also.
Here's why info lynch is bad: the best person to lynch for "info" in my mind is koshi. If he flips town then I'm pretty much confirmed town, same with LS, since it means he wasn't just pulling things out of nowhere. If he flips mafia, he was trying to be some mafia mastermind and we eliminated him. At the end of the day this is a terrible lynch and makes no sense. Don't lynch for info, at least not at this point.
|
On December 01 2016 05:48 mahrgell wrote: Also quick thought on this activity nightmare: If it was nobody posting, but everyone parking his vote, I would usually be inclined to feel like it is scum who are just happy about a coming ml and let the game die out. This game is different. It is actually people not voting. Idk if they are simply not online and really set an alarm for minutes before deadline... Or if they are lurking and waiting. Chances are theres some lurkers amongst those. And this feels more like scum waiting if any non-NU train is realizing, then quickly jumping in, voting it, saving a mate, and later play the "I was not able to to fully read everything and had to gut feel vote, sorry, went wrong"
Yeah it's making me nervous, but I don't really see anything else at the moment. I've never seen a town with 5 votes not cast 1hr before deadline. Tons of people with shenanigans and last minute vote switch, yeah, but not this. If NU is not maf town is in a terrible place, and I'll feel bad cause I thought we had a good town so far
|
Wait, Rels are you actually caught up in this game right now?
|
On December 01 2016 06:01 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2016 06:00 darthfoley wrote:On December 01 2016 05:58 Holyflare wrote:On December 01 2016 05:49 Rels wrote: I hate your last sentence in this post. Everything is false. I read the game and contributed in ~1 hour way more than you at that point. I pushed the game forward the game while I was there You pushed nothing forward. Your post about me was bull shit and you were not transparent about this Marzipan thing at all. You didn't really do much apart from backtrack on stuff. Please point out which posts of margarita you liked that made you change your mind. You haven't voted. Who are you voting for? You just wrote who I'm voting for, nobody.
This game you want to be part of town because town will be awesome. This game town will not slack. You will not slack because you are town. This game will be the game that demotivates every mafia team in 2017.
HF get on board and do something.
|
On December 01 2016 06:13 Rels wrote: HF if you're town I'm fucking disapointed
Great, now let's get caught up and on with things
|
On December 01 2016 06:23 Rels wrote: HF fighting arguments to the end like that is him being scum. It is convincing but doesn't make sense. There is no game sense here. Me not saing I like one post of marghell while catching up means nothing. Me being undecisive about margh because he did some bad and some good means nothing.
@Rels: what is your game plan right now?
|
On December 01 2016 06:25 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2016 06:24 emperorchampion wrote:On December 01 2016 06:23 Rels wrote: HF fighting arguments to the end like that is him being scum. It is convincing but doesn't make sense. There is no game sense here. Me not saing I like one post of marghell while catching up means nothing. Me being undecisive about margh because he did some bad and some good means nothing. @Rels: what is your game plan right now? ?
Well you want to lynch HF I suppose, who are you trying to convince?
|
On December 01 2016 06:26 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2016 06:26 emperorchampion wrote:On December 01 2016 06:25 Rels wrote:On December 01 2016 06:24 emperorchampion wrote:On December 01 2016 06:23 Rels wrote: HF fighting arguments to the end like that is him being scum. It is convincing but doesn't make sense. There is no game sense here. Me not saing I like one post of marghell while catching up means nothing. Me being undecisive about margh because he did some bad and some good means nothing. @Rels: what is your game plan right now? ? Well you want to lynch HF I suppose, who are you trying to convince? Nope I think I'm OK with a NU lynch. Starting to reread both of their filters to see if I wanna fight for HF over NU or not.
Hmm ok.
What do you think of Onegu?
|
On December 01 2016 06:30 Koshi wrote: What Rels is doing makes no sense in mafia POV.
Either NU is mafia and he gets himself lynched. Either NU is town and he gets himself lynched.
Like it's not like he tries to divert to lynch onto somebody else in a sneaky way or something. Or put shit on somebody based on preflip association with NU.
Let's wait for the flip first before concluding though.
|
On December 01 2016 06:34 Onegu wrote: IM here
@Onegu: what are your thoughts at the moment?
|
|
|
|