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On November 30 2016 07:18 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 07:01 Rels wrote: Koshi explain your townread on checkm8 ? His posts more likely come from town than mafia wifoming like a madman. I am a sucker for people that say this: Show nested quote +On November 29 2016 23:28 Checkm8 wrote:On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia. + Show Spoiler + Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.
On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote: I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros) And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes) And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3 Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.
No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum. Damn, I'm horrible at this. But believe me I'm town...because I'm not chocolate nor mocha... And the post in which he said I was mafia for being too nice. Don't know. It made sense when HF said it came more likely from town. [...] Yeah, I found that last post to be townie as well.
Why is LS obvious town to you?
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On November 30 2016 07:40 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 07:37 Rels wrote:TIME T1: Onegu says something On November 29 2016 09:44 Onegu wrote: Also what happend to SL he said hi to me then just bounced... TIME T2 a few hours later: SL posts something On November 29 2016 13:24 sicklucker wrote:On November 29 2016 09:18 Tictock wrote: Oh right, the whole Koshi vs Onegu thing.
I will prob ignore any and all of that just like Calix vs NU. tru me too .townie TIME T3 another few hours alter: SL reacts to what Onegu says on T1 On November 29 2016 17:30 sicklucker wrote: and onegu why you getting mad for sayin hi to you. there was 2 posts in the thread not worth my time to stick around ;p So that shows he read the game before posting at T3. So that means that (1) he read the whole thread but didn't tryhard to gain townieness from it and (2) posted randomly in the thread wihtout following it at all at T2, which you tend to not do as scum. I guess ? It sounded better in my head. I can see what you want to say. I as mafia was always very aware of that indeed. But it is not good enough atm for sl. Do you like NU? No apart from his big post which was townie.
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On November 30 2016 07:38 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 07:35 Koshi wrote:On November 30 2016 07:33 Rels wrote: I think SL is town He made 1 good point. But I don't think it is enough for him to be taken off the table. Did he say anything interesting that wasn't about Shape / copclaim? What's the 1 good point he made ? That shape was not mafia for how he claimed cop. I liked how sl brought that to the thread. It had impact. It was new. And it removed all my doubt on Shape.
Also not enough to townread him. But it's ok for now. sl is being absolute shit till he starts actual playing last games. It's great for mafia teams. Not so for townies as he stays a ?. Rarely gets close to lynched though.
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On November 30 2016 07:42 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 07:40 Koshi wrote:On November 30 2016 07:37 Rels wrote:TIME T1: Onegu says something On November 29 2016 09:44 Onegu wrote: Also what happend to SL he said hi to me then just bounced... TIME T2 a few hours later: SL posts something On November 29 2016 13:24 sicklucker wrote:On November 29 2016 09:18 Tictock wrote: Oh right, the whole Koshi vs Onegu thing.
I will prob ignore any and all of that just like Calix vs NU. tru me too .townie TIME T3 another few hours alter: SL reacts to what Onegu says on T1 On November 29 2016 17:30 sicklucker wrote: and onegu why you getting mad for sayin hi to you. there was 2 posts in the thread not worth my time to stick around ;p So that shows he read the game before posting at T3. So that means that (1) he read the whole thread but didn't tryhard to gain townieness from it and (2) posted randomly in the thread wihtout following it at all at T2, which you tend to not do as scum. I guess ? It sounded better in my head. I can see what you want to say. I as mafia was always very aware of that indeed. But it is not good enough atm for sl. Do you like NU? No apart from his big post which was townie. Exactly. That removed him from my scumlist. But his play is really not up to date. Also. Dat filter. He feels restricted in his posting.
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On November 30 2016 07:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 07:18 Koshi wrote:On November 30 2016 07:01 Rels wrote: Koshi explain your townread on checkm8 ? His posts more likely come from town than mafia wifoming like a madman. I am a sucker for people that say this: On November 29 2016 23:28 Checkm8 wrote:On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia. + Show Spoiler + Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.
On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote: I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros) And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes) And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3 Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.
No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum. Damn, I'm horrible at this. But believe me I'm town...because I'm not chocolate nor mocha... And the post in which he said I was mafia for being too nice. Don't know. It made sense when HF said it came more likely from town. [...] Yeah, I found that last post to be townie as well. Why is LS obvious town to you? Pure meta and feels. I have played with him before. And he even had some good scumhunting somewhere. Well. At least interesting pressure. I completely forgot what it was but it was good.
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On November 30 2016 07:44 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 07:42 Rels wrote:On November 30 2016 07:40 Koshi wrote:On November 30 2016 07:37 Rels wrote:TIME T1: Onegu says something On November 29 2016 09:44 Onegu wrote: Also what happend to SL he said hi to me then just bounced... TIME T2 a few hours later: SL posts something On November 29 2016 13:24 sicklucker wrote:On November 29 2016 09:18 Tictock wrote: Oh right, the whole Koshi vs Onegu thing.
I will prob ignore any and all of that just like Calix vs NU. tru me too .townie TIME T3 another few hours alter: SL reacts to what Onegu says on T1 On November 29 2016 17:30 sicklucker wrote: and onegu why you getting mad for sayin hi to you. there was 2 posts in the thread not worth my time to stick around ;p So that shows he read the game before posting at T3. So that means that (1) he read the whole thread but didn't tryhard to gain townieness from it and (2) posted randomly in the thread wihtout following it at all at T2, which you tend to not do as scum. I guess ? It sounded better in my head. I can see what you want to say. I as mafia was always very aware of that indeed. But it is not good enough atm for sl. Do you like NU? No apart from his big post which was townie. Exactly. That removed him from my scumlist. But his play is really not up to date. Also. Dat filter. He feels restricted in his posting. I do restrict what I post, yeah.
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Don't agree with Koshi's TR on Checkm8. He's pulled the "im a newb" thing at least twice, and he has only mentioned like one "gut" read. He's scummier than town for now, although I don't think he's at the top of my list atm. Being a first time player is a bit intimidating from either alignment
On November 29 2016 11:24 Tictock wrote: This is pretty standard Early game for me, idk what you all are talking about.
I dare you to meta me.
I mean I literally just played a game with you where you were town and you didn't play D1 like this at all. You were aggressive and went after people, asked many more questions, and seemed perfectly invested in the game-- all while there was pressure on you. So unless you've lost the mafia passion after doing really well last game individually/winning as a town within the last two weeks, your excuse is a little hard to buy. You did ask about me and EC, but it seemed half assed. TT is in my scum lean pile
Also not a fan of HF so far. He's kind of a being a dick which is NAI(?) but annoying. Especially after playing a game with NU and Calix. I made similar points against mahrgell last game but I was wrong, and he's playing very similar to that game-- though mahrgell is being a little over combative. HF has spent 80% of his filter grilling one dude and I don't see the point from a town perspective, especially as a uber veteran of TL mafia.
If someone can make a post explaining why he/she thinks LS is town for reasons other than BS meta claims I'd love to hear it. I got burned last time people simply accepted a meta town read of LS so I want to hear something real.
I do think the dynamic between LS/NU/EC is a bit interesting (LS claiming that EC vs. NU is MvT). Not sure where I stand on that yet besides that i'm town reading NU and i'm up in the air between the other two.
Mahrgell/Koshi/Shape and probably Rels are on my town pile for now.
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On November 30 2016 07:43 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 07:38 Rels wrote:On November 30 2016 07:35 Koshi wrote:On November 30 2016 07:33 Rels wrote: I think SL is town He made 1 good point. But I don't think it is enough for him to be taken off the table. Did he say anything interesting that wasn't about Shape / copclaim? What's the 1 good point he made ? That shape was not mafia for how he claimed cop. I liked how sl brought that to the thread. It had impact. It was new. And it removed all my doubt on Shape. Also not enough to townread him. But it's ok for now. sl is being absolute shit till he starts actual playing last games. It's great for mafia teams. Not so for townies as he stays a ?. Rarely gets close to lynched though. This was a super shit point and Shape absolutely can fakeclaim cop as any alignment.
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On November 30 2016 07:35 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 05:11 LightningStrike wrote: I here now. Not much has happened. I do think if one of EC or NU was scum it would be NU because he seems a bit opportunistic at times for his push on people (on me and EC) yet at the same he trying to solve the game more than EC. Plus the hidden LS rule that tends to happen: If someone is playing their [first?] game with me ever they would try to push me at someway. Explain to me how my pushes on both you and emperor were opportunistic please. In both instances you pushed us when people were pushing us. Can't do exact time stamp I still on mobile. Anyways my phone is dying so I won't be able to post till I get it charged.
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On November 30 2016 07:45 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 07:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 30 2016 07:18 Koshi wrote:On November 30 2016 07:01 Rels wrote: Koshi explain your townread on checkm8 ? His posts more likely come from town than mafia wifoming like a madman. I am a sucker for people that say this: On November 29 2016 23:28 Checkm8 wrote:On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia. + Show Spoiler + Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.
On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote: I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros) And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes) And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3 Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.
No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum. Damn, I'm horrible at this. But believe me I'm town...because I'm not chocolate nor mocha... And the post in which he said I was mafia for being too nice. Don't know. It made sense when HF said it came more likely from town. [...] Yeah, I found that last post to be townie as well. Why is LS obvious town to you? Pure meta and feels. I have played with him before. And he even had some good scumhunting somewhere. Well. At least interesting pressure. I completely forgot what it was but it was good. No I am being incorrect. His play is just good. The meta is only a part. The feels are just townfeels I would have with everybody that plays like he does.
Saying there is mafia between 2 people because it feels like there is, is bold and can come from a townie. Yes, it could be mafia trying to force town to pick a mafia between the 2 or so but that is not how I read that.
It's all good. He is not mafia.
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On November 30 2016 07:47 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 07:43 Koshi wrote:On November 30 2016 07:38 Rels wrote:On November 30 2016 07:35 Koshi wrote:On November 30 2016 07:33 Rels wrote: I think SL is town He made 1 good point. But I don't think it is enough for him to be taken off the table. Did he say anything interesting that wasn't about Shape / copclaim? What's the 1 good point he made ? That shape was not mafia for how he claimed cop. I liked how sl brought that to the thread. It had impact. It was new. And it removed all my doubt on Shape. Also not enough to townread him. But it's ok for now. sl is being absolute shit till he starts actual playing last games. It's great for mafia teams. Not so for townies as he stays a ?. Rarely gets close to lynched though. This was a super shit point and Shape absolutely can fakeclaim cop as any alignment. Everybody can do anything. But I don't know. Doesn't feel like scum would do it there for shit and giggles.
anyway, at that time, after he made that comment, I thought sl came out to play.
He didn't.
bad sl.
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Let's kill HF. ##Vote Holyflare
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2. Holyflare 4. Onegu 11. sicklucker 12. Tictock 13. NeverUnlucky
I think I am here atm. Finding the right one is going to be a pain in the ass.
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On November 30 2016 07:47 darthfoley wrote:Don't agree with Koshi's TR on Checkm8. He's pulled the "im a newb" thing at least twice, and he has only mentioned like one "gut" read. He's scummier than town for now, although I don't think he's at the top of my list atm. Being a first time player is a bit intimidating from either alignment Show nested quote +On November 29 2016 11:24 Tictock wrote: This is pretty standard Early game for me, idk what you all are talking about.
I dare you to meta me. I mean I literally just played a game with you where you were town and you didn't play D1 like this at all. You were aggressive and went after people, asked many more questions, and seemed perfectly invested in the game-- all while there was pressure on you. So unless you've lost the mafia passion after doing really well last game individually/winning as a town within the last two weeks, your excuse is a little hard to buy. You did ask about me and EC, but it seemed half assed. TT is in my scum lean pile Also not a fan of HF so far. He's kind of a being a dick which is NAI(?) but annoying. Especially after playing a game with NU and Calix. I made similar points against mahrgell last game but I was wrong, and he's playing very similar to that game-- though mahrgell is being a little over combative. HF has spent 80% of his filter grilling one dude and I don't see the point from a town perspective, especially as a uber veteran of TL mafia. If someone can make a post explaining why he/she thinks LS is town for reasons other than BS meta claims I'd love to hear it. I got burned last time people simply accepted a meta town read of LS so I want to hear something real. I do think the dynamic between LS/NU/EC is a bit interesting (LS claiming that EC vs. NU is MvT). Not sure where I stand on that yet besides that i'm town reading NU and i'm up in the air between the other two. Mahrgell/Koshi/Shape and probably Rels are on my town pile for now. Why is Shape in your townpile ?
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On November 30 2016 07:51 Rels wrote: Let's kill HF. ##Vote Holyflare I am not against that. ##unvote ##Vote Holyflare
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Like the post he made about the spoilered gifs. Unnecessary frustration towards mahrgell.
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I think I am probably wrong on TT btw and he is just being super unimpressive.
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On November 30 2016 07:48 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 07:35 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 30 2016 05:11 LightningStrike wrote: I here now. Not much has happened. I do think if one of EC or NU was scum it would be NU because he seems a bit opportunistic at times for his push on people (on me and EC) yet at the same he trying to solve the game more than EC. Plus the hidden LS rule that tends to happen: If someone is playing their [first?] game with me ever they would try to push me at someway. Explain to me how my pushes on both you and emperor were opportunistic please. In both instances you pushed us when people were pushing us. Can't do exact time stamp I still on mobile. Anyways my phone is dying so I won't be able to post till I get it charged. It's actually the opposite. I pushed both of you when no one was pushing you.
@emperorchampion Can you walk me through your read progression on me specifically? + Show Spoiler +On November 29 2016 12:57 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2016 09:34 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote: Meh reading didn't give me much.
Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons. Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced. Your awesome bro LS is the one who looks like he has a knife stuck in the butt. Look at his entry: On November 29 2016 07:40 LightningStrike wrote: Hey first game since my ban which was like 5-6 months ago? Anyways Onegu's vote on EC seems pretty him joking around but outside of that nothing notable has happened. He felt the need to summarize the 10 posts that were made prior to him posting, and I can't think of another reason why he would precise that it is his first game in a while after the game started other than giving an excuse to his rustiness. That looks forced. Flagged this post, I dun like it. 1) It looks like you're trying to make something out of nothing re: throwing something at LS. 2) It reads like you're smooshing two thoughts together, which makes me think that you had some conclusion in mind and are making the evidence fit that. Requires further investigation. On November 30 2016 02:22 emperorchampion wrote: NU probably town. LS don't really like trying to set up mafia between NU and I. TT haven't really liked from the get go. mahrgell's got this mix of above average content, lots of questions, pressure on incorrect target that's raising some flags for me. That's where I'm at right now. There are a ton of questions for me that I may answer at some point, largely related to NU I imagine, but that guy is town for now. On November 30 2016 02:55 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 02:39 Shapelog wrote:On November 30 2016 02:22 emperorchampion wrote: NU probably town. LS don't really like trying to set up mafia between NU and I. TT haven't really liked from the get go. mahrgell's got this mix of above average content, lots of questions, pressure on incorrect target that's raising some flags for me. That's where I'm at right now. There are a ton of questions for me that I may answer at some point, largely related to NU I imagine, but that guy is town for now. What has made NU town for you now? Also, you think LS is setting up to act like there is mafia between you and NU? For now he seems to understand why he's not mafia, albeit a little rudely, but I'll take it for now. Feels like it yeah. On November 30 2016 03:41 emperorchampion wrote:LS / NU / mahrgell will sort out later I think, but are town for now 
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There is like no attempt to look good in any of his posts. Mafia wouldn't do that. And I liked maybe some of his posts now that I reread them. I can see a townie asking those questions.
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This NU guy is so disconnected from the thread. Quite hilarious.
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