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On November 29 2016 23:55 NeverUnlucky wrote:
#526
5) and 6) mostly reflect my thoughts on both these players. However, I really don't like this: "Fuck it, I guess I leave [LS] to people who can judge him better until I have seen more from him to form a more conclusive opinion. " It comes back to HF's point re: dedicating a post to someone and not having a clear opinion on them.
On that note, you still have no read on me despite liking the points that were made against me and claiming I am the one you have the most meta with.
Also, fucking stop calling me "controversial" and whatnot.
COntroversial most in the sense that you are among the most suspected players in this game. Deal with it.
And about not having a read, I think I explained why. Because I feel that what you write in this game, and what others call you out for makes you look scummish in isolation. If I add back the meta, it makes you look townish. So back to square 0.
But I don't see much point in argueing about that. I have nothing to add to the allegations against you and it is up to you if you feel you defended enough against those.
If you don't feel like they are worth commenting more, just share more good stuff about other players. Like what are your opinions on HF, SL, emp, TT and LS?
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On November 29 2016 23:58 Holyflare wrote:
I feel like you just made a wall of text on every player in the game for no real reason and the majority of your scum leans are simply the unproductive ones. It just seems so out of place. Why the need for the summary?
Yes, my scum leans are the unproductive ones. Should I mark it again for you? Day1 I search for those who don't play for town.
I'm not as brilliant as you to instantly have a lockscum read on my first post.
And why I made it? Simply because I dived all filters, was frustrated about the lack of anything. Would have loved something more concrete. But this game is quite asleep. Besides Koshi I don't see any initiative at all. Everyone else is at best dropping one liners commenting about their feelings. And this is honestly quite frustrating. So if this wot triggers some activity... Hey, I'm totally happy.
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On November 30 2016 00:04 Holyflare wrote:
Your opinion on me shouldn't be anything other than null btw. I haven't done much but you should certainly agree that your NU reads are wishy washy useless crap and it is excellent to be called out for that when you yourself didn't even "realise".
Thanks for telling me what my opinion on you should be. I don't care.
And well... at least I can explain why im so undecided on NU. Where are your contributions? Haven't seen many opinions from you about other players besides myself.
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On November 30 2016 00:24 Holyflare wrote:
I don't play at work, you're lucky I'm even posting anything right now and even this is tough. My "only content" so far is great and was posted on the train. It's quite easy to see I have a thought process and am following it up whenever my scum read posts (you).
Totally happy you are posting anything. I feel really honored.
Also if you say your content is great and your thought process is easy to see, I have no choice but to accept that as the ultimate truth.
I simply don't have time to read anything other than the latest posts till I get home.
Basically, I think your stances are poor. They are based on meta and/or some form of insubstantial tidbit. "This guy feels different," "Koshi is town for this but here's something I need answers for even though you're not scummy looking at all".
Okay, not asking townreads again. No wait... Seriously, what stuff are you on?
Yes I think his general attitude is ultra town. No I don't understand those reads from him. But Senpai HF teaches me I'm not allowed to ask him :[
Your mindset just doesn't align with how I'd be thinking if I was thinking what you're thinking. You're questioning your town reads and aren't really concerned about your scum reads. Your only questions are really to your highest town read and have done not much to get any more information from your scum leans.
You want content but you rehash the game in a giant wall and expect people to do something. You want activity, you make activity by asking questions and pushing things. Not by idly commenting in a summary.
U think, what I think what u think, or how was it? Sorry lost me on that bit.
But I actually agree with the rest there on that my play could be better. I guess this can be improved in future (or at least tried ^.^)
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Uhm... I guess a simple fuckoff would have done it too. At this point I'm probably more personally annoyed his "I'm great, you suck" attitude than any ingame reasons.
Will try to stop it, sorry.
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On November 30 2016 00:49 Koshi wrote:
4. Onegu
8. Checkm8
11. sicklucker
12. Ticktock
I am left with these names.
CM8 was a townream, TT was a scumread, no? I can't follow you again. Guess I better get used it.
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On November 29 2016 23:04 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2016 22:50 Holyflare wrote:
Can you give me a quick breakdown of which people fit into which category in that post margarine?
Just a simple:
Would like to know more:
and
People solely expanding filter with no content:
I'm very intrigued. I may be padding my filter just so people can be like holy shit onegu has a 5+ page day 1 filter that means he is scum, so I can reinforce my you cant meta read me. But I do think I got some content in there also. Maybe not...
Well, as I failed while searching for said content... Would you highlight it for me? Or just summarize it, as you must have thoughts that go beyond affection for various players.
Still mostly interested in HF, SL, emp, TT and LS. You should also have enough experience with those to judge their D1 habits.
Oh, and add NU to that list.
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@emp:
now that NU answered those allegations somehow and showed some more interaction... How are your feelings about him now? Does this satisfy you or did it reinforce your issues with him? Would you be willing to case him?
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Btw, NU, what made you lean-T on Onegu?
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Shlog really needs how to quote...
Anyway, regardig the part about me.. Last game I would have asked my all knowing coach  This game I guess I have to go with HFs gentle advice instead of just observing further as I originally planned. But I don't mind anyone helping on creating some movement, if someone shares those concerns 
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On November 30 2016 01:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 01:21 mahrgell wrote:
Btw, NU, what made you lean-T on Onegu? I recognize myself in him, and he's funny. I also think that his "Where is everyone?" and "SL was here then left..." posts were town. However, I don't think he's the most town itt anymore because he has yet to make a serious post which worries me. I can see where Koshi is coming from with the Dandel comparison. Off for a while
Hm... I can't agree with your pro town arguments. Like you usually at least have substance. Not necessarily substance I agree with but you have something. If you were scum, and knowing your own meta, wouldn't you just fill up the thread as you usually do but drop the substance? Because this is exactly what I feel is happening with Onegu here.
Being funny is not a towntell to me, sorry. (At best it makes him worth to keep around and kill him last. ^^)
And not sure how those 2 quoted posts are townish, but well, early game vibes are rather subjective I guess so whatever.
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On November 30 2016 01:31 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 01:22 Shapelog wrote:Now I have to write a paper >_< On November 29 2016 22:42 mahrgell wrote:
Grmpf... now I went through all filters... And somehow got left disappointed. All the people I would like to know more about have not posted lately... And the other half of players just tries to expand their filter size without contributing anything. Guess I just vote for policy killing almost everyone!
Guess I write a summary anyway... Maybe this helps me to order my thoughts better. So what, how are you going to make this happen? How are going to fix it? On November 29 2016 23:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Something tells me there is a scum between NU and EC the tone between them don't seem exactly town on town. Call it a gut feeling nothing concrete about it. Don't think both would be mafia it doesn't feel like mafia on mafia talk especially since it not Shapelog bussing a teammate this early like he normally does (hint I think Shapelog is town this game). Can you explain this more if you can? It hard to explain but it a gut feeling on tone between EC and NU it doesn't feel town on town for some reason when they talked to each other.
Uhm?? I can't follow that argument. How it the tone of a townie in TvT different from his tone in TvM? If you can't decide who is the M in this matchup, I'm not seeing how you come to the conclusion that this should be TvM. Or are you saying it is TvM or MvM?
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Sidebet: A cake to whoever has most variations in how his name is abbreviated/spelled by the end of the game.
I'm leading. By a lot. Easy win! Gimme cake!
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On November 30 2016 01:42 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 01:37 mahrgell wrote:On November 30 2016 01:31 LightningStrike wrote:On November 30 2016 01:22 Shapelog wrote:Now I have to write a paper >_< On November 29 2016 22:42 mahrgell wrote:
Grmpf... now I went through all filters... And somehow got left disappointed. All the people I would like to know more about have not posted lately... And the other half of players just tries to expand their filter size without contributing anything. Guess I just vote for policy killing almost everyone!
Guess I write a summary anyway... Maybe this helps me to order my thoughts better. So what, how are you going to make this happen? How are going to fix it? On November 29 2016 23:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Something tells me there is a scum between NU and EC the tone between them don't seem exactly town on town. Call it a gut feeling nothing concrete about it. Don't think both would be mafia it doesn't feel like mafia on mafia talk especially since it not Shapelog bussing a teammate this early like he normally does (hint I think Shapelog is town this game). Can you explain this more if you can? It hard to explain but it a gut feeling on tone between EC and NU it doesn't feel town on town for some reason when they talked to each other. Uhm?? I can't follow that argument. How it the tone of a townie in TvT different from his tone in TvM? If you can't decide who is the M in this matchup, I'm not seeing how you come to the conclusion that this should be TvM. Or are you saying it is TvM or MvM? Tone of TvT feels more natural while TvM feels unnatural ie like something feels forced by one side. EC vs NU seems like TvM on tone. I will look into more later when I get on a computer because quoting posts is a pain in the assignment on mobile.
hm? Yeah, would like you to detail this later. I'm not really sure what you are after here.
PS: is there a way to circumvent flood control, except changing subsite?
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On November 30 2016 01:47 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2016 12:57 emperorchampion wrote:On November 29 2016 09:34 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.
Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons. Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced. Your awesome bro LS is the one who looks like he has a knife stuck in the butt. Look at his entry: On November 29 2016 07:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey first game since my ban which was like 5-6 months ago? Anyways Onegu's vote on EC seems pretty him joking around but outside of that nothing notable has happened. He felt the need to summarize the 10 posts that were made prior to him posting, and I can't think of another reason why he would precise that it is his first game in a while after the game started other than giving an excuse to his rustiness. That looks forced. Flagged this post, I dun like it. 1) It looks like you're trying to make something out of nothing re: throwing something at LS. 2) It reads like you're smooshing two thoughts together, which makes me think that you had some conclusion in mind and are making the evidence fit that. Requires further investigation. This post and the one after in EC's filter and the response from NU tone wise makes it seem there is a mafia between them. Like something doesn't feel natural in their conversation.
Hm, okay. I don't see it. I see both trying to conjure something out of thin air here, but not sure this is a scum trait at this time. But to each their own feelings.
But since NU has posted more since then... How does this translate into your reading of him?
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@shlog
Just noticed your vote is still on Onegu. But this was some jokevote iirc.
Seeing you asking a lot of questions (which I like), but if deadline was close now, who would you vote?
You called Koshi@TT not a bad case, so would you support that? Also saw some mistrust towards CM8 from you. Or would it be someone else?
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Okay, I'm back! Just skimmed over everything. Anyone has something he wants to point me at? Otherwise I will probably go with another list post and chiming in my opinion on the current cases.
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Let's split it up this time:
On the HF case:
HF is on my large "Didn't do shit for town" pile. I don't think it can be argued against him, that he went after me, and I already acknowledged that his point about me actually putting out questions to my townreads instead of my scumreads was pretty valid back then. So while I don't agree on his tone on a personal level, his ingame intentions I can respect there. But what drags him down in my mind is his lack of ANY other content. Okay, yesterdy he then brought the reasoning that hes at work, and thus ca only focus on me. But that was quite some time ago. Since then all we got are wonderful one liners like "don't lynch" "can't be assed" "maybe I try". I know people sometimes townread or scumread based on lack of defense, but thats pretty WIFOM to me. Really, the missing part is not the defense here, but the content on anyone but me.
And as we are on the "Didn't do shit for town" pile, I may just add SL:
Uhm... Was he notified the game already started? Is he playing? All he does is random one liners, I can see no thought put in besides "never played with those guys, must be scum". If I compare him to HF, SL is a tad more scummy than HF. Not sure why, but SLs activity feels more faked. Like every post from him feels like he is playing the "I dont care about the game and I want you all to know it" card.
Continueing on that pile, lets have CM8
Yeah, I didn't see anything good from him either. But on this pile he is probably the one least deserving a day1 lynch as I'm willing to give him time to contribute.
Also here on the pile, although trying to move onto better lands, is TT
I didn't like his return, again explaining why he really didn't play the game. His posts afterwards were again not contributing much in adding his own opinion. I really liked his list post though, it seemed genuine. Maybe because I love list posts? No but seriously, I could understand how he came to those conclusions... This does not really clear him completely for me, but there are better targets, thats for sure.
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On November 30 2016 17:46 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 17:28 mahrgell wrote:
Okay, I'm back! Just skimmed over everything. Anyone has something he wants to point me at? Otherwise I will probably go with another list post and chiming in my opinion on the current cases. Don't do a listpost again. Just try to find something interesting. Or talk about something that you think is possible and new information. Maybe a post that comes more likely from town than mafia? Or the other way around even!
Fuck, should F5 thread before posting... But yes, in the end I will have everything sorted into scum->town.
I feel it is just difficult to explain my ordering without doing lists before 
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Oh, I forgot Onegu in the "didn't do shit" list.
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