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On December 13 2016 03:42 Holyflare wrote: Where have I flipped back and forth at all? If flipping back and forth involves a one line post that's just me thinking out loud and is irrelevant. I don't like to hide anything back. I was quite quick to rethink it and say that Onegu was likely townier than DF. I also cannot access teamliquid at work so I have to do a workaround where only liquidhearthstone works because that is the only site that I can somehow bypass and even then it is specifically this thread and not the main site. If someone else asks me to point out where you flipped between your judgement on Onegu and myself, I might even answer that  Somehow I feel though everyone else sees it, and I guess I won't convince you to vote yourself...Anyway... feel free to present me how your great analysis on how you can't be scum not aligns with your idea of "How DF can be scum" or is it Onegu again? I feel like half your arguments apply to the one or other still alive here too... You want me to do a similar list? | ||
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-my caring attitude -me actually trying to move the game forward pretty much through out the entire game and filtering everyone a dozen times -me posting wots all the time hoping at least something gets understood ^.^ -the fact I haven't called myself town 10000000 times and can actually accept people investigating me (simply look at D1 in the newbiegame... where I was topscumread for half the D1... I indeed consider it welcome) -the fact I tried to get absolutely 0 credit from a definite NU lynch while pushing it and trying to get anything reasonable out of NU instead of mindlessly killing him... He just failed horribly ^.^ -the fact that I actively lobbied for an SL kill all of D2 -the fact that I didn't want to mindlessly murder SL, when there was still a valid explanation of how his play makes sense as town(and would lose the game), instead of magically flipping my views magically at EoN as soon as there was a CC - the fact that SL used a completely bullshit explanation instead of the more thought out I had already posted... - the fact that I've "carelessly scumslipped" 2 ingamedays before the end - the fact that my explanation for it was simply was what it was, instead some perfectly crafted answer, like e.g. TT seemingly expected Sorry... I suck at those... I still have no idea why people do those. But some people love the "I WOULD NEVER DO THAT AS SCUM" wifom ^^ | ||
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On December 13 2016 04:18 Holyflare wrote: This + spoilered quote is damning evidence. There's nothing magical about it and there wasn't a single chance he was vt. Then why did you call him "certain town" at night, repeatedly? It was you who was first to do that, almost instantly after his claim... (And you converted me from my "trolololo, what a shitclaim" into "this could actually be a VT-play"....) The only thing that changed from night to day way that he didn't die. But given that 3 players actively promoted the idea in the thread that he was possibly a VT instead of JK... scum could have went with that logic too and leave VT!SL alive. Especially when there was a good chance SL getting lynched at day after he did not die, as he was scumspected by pretty much everyone. | ||
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And also, if at night you thought he could be VT or JK... why did you even promote this idea? If you thought he was more likely a blue, you wanted to take the shot away from him... Scum not shooting him should have been your target... If you believed he was more likely a VT trying to bait a bullet... why hint it to scum? | ||
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On December 13 2016 04:54 Holyflare wrote: Because I don't give a shit about playing tactically as town and just say what's on my mind. We've been through this. I still have a hard time seeing a TL vet who is obsessed about his winrate doing that... But I guess we can have Onegu as judge here  (if hes online) | ||
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I figured that part... the question is "does he not at all use "tactical play" as town" | ||
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On December 13 2016 05:03 Onegu wrote: HF gets town points here also because he didnt vote when I told him to. ??? I guess I won't understand what you two suddenly have with each other... But I would still like details | ||
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On December 13 2016 05:06 Holyflare wrote: This is where mahrgell is confirmed mafia to onegu and vice versa. Why? As I said earlier, I considered Onegu pretty much modconfirmed town... | ||
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If thats your conclusion... Why do you suddenly call yourself townconfirmed by DF unvoting? | ||
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On December 13 2016 05:12 Onegu wrote: I dont know what I think here.... If you would know how fast my head is spinning right now... | ||
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On December 13 2016 05:18 darthfoley wrote: Oh I'm also town because I've been very paranoid about Mahrgell being mafia way before anyone else seriously considered it. (I know I said I wasn't voting him earlier). Now for me it's between Onegu and Mahrgell. A few points on Mahrgell that gave me pause 1. I found HF vs. mahrgell for like 2 days to be a bit manufactured in the sense that it wasted time, filled filter and didn't really add to the game. yes, I asked to be replaced out of the game, because it was manufactured... lol 2. I have a personal beef with the sheer amount of WoTs mahr has provided even when I and other people have called him out. I made the point near the beginning of the game that excessive WoT and shitty formatting discourages people from actually reading. I can think of a reason this could be beneficial to someone... I think my clear mind wots were way more readable than my more emotional hurried ones... But I think you saw me in the newbiegame... Shlog was always butchering me for it in teachingQT... I tried to hit enter occassionally... But yes.. I still suck at it... But I certainly didnt make intentionally hard to read stuff ^^ 3. The way he saw the SL vs. Rels JK thing was so opposite from how I saw it. He pushed the VT!SL thing a lot and said we should totally ignore it. Which still doesn't make sense. I still believe Rels claiming preEoN was terrible. But we will probably have to agree to disagree. 4. No ones pointed this out, but SL's read of mahr went from town --> scum near his death iirc. It's weird tat people give mahr town cred for pushing SL when he wanted initially to keep SL alive I defended SL suring night1, because I thought this was too stupid of a scumplay... I pushed him pretty much entire D2... And I defended the possibility of him being VT until he started posting and posted nonsense 5. He keeps saying it's between HF and DF yet is stuck on everything HF says and hasn't pushed me at all. It started to feel like he had the votes and vote timing with my vote so he didn't want to anger me and lose the 2:2 advantage. you realize that if it is between you two (and did not consider Onegu at all I have the last vote? It is me who can last minute change... | ||
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On December 13 2016 05:20 darthfoley wrote: Wait why is Onegu modconfirmed??? SL posted a gif towards Onegu after his death, midst of D3... I actually asked the mods about how to handle it, after emp used it to defend onegu and attack me with it. And afaik he wasnt the only one who townread Onegu for that one post alone. If this was intentional to give this kind of towncred to Onegu, I think we have more urgent shit to discuss in postgame than the result to Onegu. So for me it was always "Onegu is town, and if he is not I flip shit in postgame". But I believe somehow in sportsmanship and SL not doing that with that intention, but just because he was funny (like others who are not part of the game and felt the need to post gifs midgame... there were two similar incidents earlier and obv mods didn't bother to stop gif interruptions ) | ||
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On December 13 2016 05:25 darthfoley wrote: Like mahrgell was almost(?) universally town read when LS died. I had town reads from a lot of people except SL, maybe EC? Can't remember HF and I shared tin foils on LS. Again I go back to the point that his death doesn't make sense I was always discredited by HF at this point.... | ||
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On December 13 2016 05:25 darthfoley wrote: Like mahrgell was almost(?) universally town read when LS died. I had town reads from a lot of people except SL, maybe EC? Can't remember HF and I shared tin foils on LS. Again I go back to the point that his death doesn't make sense I actually thought that LS was the blue there and indeed expected to die there for my reaction to SLs claim... (if you feel like reading wots... my EoN wot actually pointed that out, without explicitly mentioning it... but yes, I expected to die, and LS was one of the few I didn't write much about but considered super towny...) There were 2 people who doubted me: I snapdiscarded it... and was later confirmed by HF... And LS who calmly pointed out that SL was doing this before... | ||
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On December 13 2016 05:33 Onegu wrote: Did you ever bring this up in thread before this point because I dont remember it... No, because I wanted reactions on me asking others about you. Similarly I only cared for HFs answers at night and used more as confirmations than anything else. Additionally I don't think oog stuff should be discussed ingame, why I also went ham at NU in the newbeegame in ObsQT after my death and in postgame.... | ||
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On December 13 2016 05:33 darthfoley wrote: Which is a completely bullshit point considering The Godfather is useless after cop dies. That should be obvious How often do I have to repeat it: I talked about D1/N1 SL bussed his teammate but still was universally scumread N1 because of his "strange play". The cop was NOT dead yet. Everything after the cop was dead made sense... | ||
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