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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 09 2016 18:48 GMT
#2751
On December 10 2016 02:59 Tictock wrote:
My whole thing with HF today has been about setting Town on the path to victory. Sure if HF is town I think Emp should be the lynch, but I have real doubts about HF being Town.

I figured that by proposing we lynch HF we could ensure that he would not be able to run away with the game as scum and also get him to put forth his best thoughts if Town.

Now I get a town!HF might be frustrated with me suggesting this route, but this game will still be on a fine place tomorrow if we lynch him today.

Scum!HF does all the things I'm seeing HF do here. Call as many people into question as possible, go off about any little thing, undermine posts that are attempts to analyze people's posts, argue argue argue.

Since I still see a very real threat of a scum!HF I think he is the lynch today.


Dude just stop. I can't produce content because I'm at work the entirety of my life AND moving which I've mentioned non stop. Any content you get from me will be minimal at best. "pressuring" me to do stuff doesn't work.

Just stop calling me mafia and good things can happen.

Calling hf mafia is not a way to make hf productive, in fact the opposite.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 09 2016 18:50 GMT
#2752
Is the lynch today?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 09 2016 18:52 GMT
#2753
I feel like everything emp writes is absolutely appealing to emotion instead of solving the game. An excellent mafia strategy. Of course he can explain what he's thinking but that doesn't help solve the game.

I feel like he's made a blunder with the poe thing and can't adequately explain why we're mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 09 2016 18:58 GMT
#2754
Emp do something for me. I want you to do like a line summary of what you were thinking/did each day in the game up till now.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 09 2016 19:02 GMT
#2756
Dude just fucking stop.

Why is it you perpetually ask emperor questions and give him 1000 outs but every post you make about me is a fucking mafia narrative?

Why not just ask me what my EXPLAINED THOUGHT PROCESS WAS.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 09 2016 19:10 GMT
#2757
Sl, very likely town, claimed jk, didn't die.

Rels, claimed jk at 30 minute silent period, I thought mafia could alter shots in the 30 minute silent period (asked about this) hence it was a bs claim.

People were saying NOT to kill between rels and sl. I vote sl to see what's happening and pressure rels because rels wasn't rescinding and i thought it was a bs play. (hence why asking real jk to claim if there was an actual one)

Sl didn't rescind after being alive and talking to rels.

Have to solve it

Some - redacted- thing happens.

I dig into filters for like the first time in the game and pick out emp's filter and it's riddled with wtf nu posts. You soundef like a robot. Think it could be both of you. Very convinced on emp at this point.

Rels can't possibly be mafia after redacted so sl is mafia or whatever I'm not sure about yet.

Sl returns and claims that he didn't knoe setup. I claim complete bs.

I make damning post on sl after thinking about it about how mafia knows there's a jk and if he fake claimed the right setup after tmiing about it then mafia would auto think he's actually jk and kill him but they didnt.

Smoking gun, sl is dead.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 09 2016 19:12 GMT
#2758
On December 07 2016 09:19 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 09:13 Rels wrote:
On December 07 2016 09:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Also I'm fine with people trying to lynch me because historically that's how I find scum

For someone with this mindset you seem pretty unsure about TT ? Are you leaning more scum or town from his case(s ?) on you ?
What's your thoughts on HF and DF ? Town apparently ? Why ?


Yeah I think that's pretty apparent from the last few days. But I think the results are OK so far, day 2 was a wash cause of afk, but otherwise 2 scum lynches.

DF reads as town to me, involved in the game and trying to solve. HF annoys me a lot, and at the moment I defer to the high town reads that a lot of other players have. HF is certainly more town than than TT and Onegu.


This is remarkable difference to just last night btw. I don't think onegu or darth have changed but the poe has.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 09 2016 19:29 GMT
#2762
D: don't do this to me man
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 09 2016 20:13 GMT
#2766
Is the lynch today?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 09 2016 21:25 GMT
#2787
On December 10 2016 06:10 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2016 05:58 mahrgell wrote:
On December 10 2016 05:56 emperorchampion wrote:
On December 10 2016 05:52 mahrgell wrote:
and emp seems always to townread the guy most he read last...

Reads my filter, calls me very sure town
Reads DFs filter, calls DF sure town...


The issue is that everyone looks town to me, so I feel like a gold fish whenever I read something again


Well... who would you lynch instead of yourself


Pending some more reading, my practically preferred lynch order would be HF->Mahr.


But you've called me towny all game, you've sheeped my sentiment, I'm confirmed practically by jk actions, I pushed lynches through on two mafia when people wanted to not vote 1 of them and instead let them live, I've tinfoiled like crazy, I didn't even push easy lynches, I have a logical reason for everything I do, your % of me being mafia is less than mahr but you've called mahr town all day and mahr made sl claim jk, you've followed my push on mahr slipping but now have no reason to call me mafia, you town read darth last night and scum read onegu and nothing happened in between but somehow you magically had darth as mafia but now he's town again and onegu has disappeared from your scum list. You made a case on ticktock day 1 but refused to vote him for no good reason to jump onto your partner nu for credit, you did nothing day 2. You ABSOLUTELY did not push sicklucker day 2 until it was fucking down right obvious he was the lynch, you made the most wishy washy posts on nu in existence (read my case on you), you didn't die and ls did over you/mahr.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 09 2016 21:29 GMT
#2789
Like you've poe-d yourself and then expect us to vote your second highest % candidate? D:
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 09 2016 21:34 GMT
#2792
Can darth be mafia though? I can certainly see it with him doing 0% of the figuring out.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 09 2016 21:35 GMT
#2793
On December 01 2016 01:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 15:21 Tictock wrote:
Rels - Feels a lot like last game joining a bit late but just dropping thoughts as he has them. His "Ok NVM" posts support that he is just saying what he thinks as he thinks it, not trying to construct stuff. Very likely town.

Holyflare - I don't agree with much of what HF said about gell, but it feels in line with stuff he's pushed before. To restate: I disagree with his reasoning to scumread mahrgell but it's not unlike pushes I've seen from town!HF before. There are a couple posts I feel could fall into DMA + Show Spoiler +
Dick Move Analysis, basically just the trend that mafia aren't usually outright mean to other players
, #453, #494, #507. So I'm tempted to townlean HF, however I'm not convinced any of this is outside his mafia wheelhouse so it's just a weak lean for now. In fact thinking about it more there are similarities to his push on gell and how he pushed me in (I think?) his last scum game. He was also fairly lackluster D1 in that game until he pushed for shenanigans onto Rels at EoD. Guess I'm pretty null/conflicted on HF.

Shapelog - I'm suprised how straightforward Shape is being this game honestly. Sure he threw out the cop WIFOM right off but that was pretty much the only time he hasn't been fairly serious this game. I'd be more worried about it if I didn't feel like I could see where he is coming from generaly and liked a few of the points he's been making. The one thing that stood out as strange to me was his NU read in #403
+ Show Spoiler +
Shape started off saying he didn't find much to sway him either way yet here was his conclusion:
Overall he has been overstressing things more than they should, which is more AI of a scum player than a town player. But, NU tone as town in previous games is like that. And while he did say he was trying to change his meta, tone and writing style is harder to change than just what you post. He's null/light scum read, but once he posts more content posts (along with everyone else), I will relook.


Onegu - Flipping my read from earlier. I gave Onegu some credit for doing some stuff right off and seeming like he was involved. Skimming his filter now I find basically nothing with real content in it. Seems like he burnt up a bunch of energy right at the start posting a bunch but now that there is stuff to actually discuss has dropped off. Would be someone to re-evaluate closer to EoD is I have time.

LightningStrike - Kinda a lazy read but LS just feels tonally on point to me and has been pretty involved. I'd imagine him having a harder time being this comfortable rolling scum after such a long absence from playing.

darthfoley - Pretty meh over his filter. I can kinda see where he is coming from at times, but I dislike how he dropped Shape from a townread to null just kus Rels asked him about it. I was going to call his vote on HF opportunistic, but he did mention not liking HF in an earlier post. I think I just need to see more from Darth to get a better read, I do recall him being a bit like this last game as well.

Koshi - Like I said before I see no reason for him to take a step back from his scumread on me like he did if he were mafia. I also imagine he'd be way more burnt out rolling scum for the 5th game in a row. Sure he'd play to win still, but what I've seen is a fair bit above what mafia would need to be doing at this point in the game.

Checkm8 - Not much to go on, and yea as others have mentioned he's overplayed the newb card. His one post of content felt legit. Idk, gut says town.

mahrgell - Feels a lot like what I recall from last game and pretty tonally on point as well. I also liked his reactions to HF's pressure (possibly another DMA) and while I get his big reads post feeling a bit lackluster it also reads to me like his legit thoughts at the time. Fairly strong townlean here.

emperorchampion - I honestly have no clue where Emp's head is at this game. Starts off some pressure on NU then does a 180 with no explanation and is now back to scumreading him. This post in particular stands out to me.
On November 30 2016 02:22 emperorchampion wrote:
NU probably town. LS don't really like trying to set up mafia between NU and I. TT haven't really liked from the get go. mahrgell's got this mix of above average content, lots of questions, pressure on incorrect target that's raising some flags for me. That's where I'm at right now. There are a ton of questions for me that I may answer at some point, largely related to NU I imagine, but that guy is town for now.

This is where he 180's on NU, throws shade on LS for suggesting there is mafia between himself and NU (which is odd since he had also thought NU was sus a few posts before), doesn't like me, and the stuff about gell is almost litterally word vomit. Feels like a scatter shot post flinging shit and seeing what might stick.

I really did try to find something redeeming in his filter that might make Emp town, but I came up with nothin.

sicklucker - pretty dam null, nothing stood out to me either way

NeverUnlucky - Reading through the game I kinda felt like NU is a lot more held back than I have ever seen him. I liked his point in #285 in response to Koshi. Other than that though I'm really not following his reads, and especially his pushes. Kinda a shame NU was last on the list, I feel like I need to be more awake to make a better read here. Leaving him as a scum read kus something feels off about him in my gut.



##Vote: emperorchampion

Seems like the best option to me. I have an odd feeling that the Emp vs NU stuff so far has actually been Mafia on Mafia. NU has actually said very little about Emp despite being one of his scumreads and Emp's read on NU has been a bit all over the place. Their interactions are also pretty tame for two people scum reading one another as well. I might be hitting the tinfoil a bit here though.


Lets talk about this post more. My conclusions:
1) TT is not following the game at all, or
2) TT is mafia.

Consider the state of the game when this was made: Rels and Koshi were voting HF, I had just voted NU.

1) Two of the top town reads are Rels and Koshi, both are at the time voting for HF. He has a town read on HF. I don't see any justification for this stance.
2) The read of HF it self, partially green but null/conflicted. I'm not really sure what to make of that. I get the sense that the conflict between having HF as town and Mahrgell as town is noted, but dealt with so lazily.
3) Stating MvM between NU and I essentially means that TT thinks that 2 mafia have been found day 1. I find this to be a very odd conclusion.
4) The case on my self is truly baffling. Either TT is lying when he says that "I didn't find anything townie" or has not been reading closely at all. Let me outline:
a) Two of his top towns, Rels and Koshi, are voting for HF. Koshi had 0 interest in voting HF prior to my posts #589 and #609.
b) I am (to my knowledge at the time) not under consideration by: Rels, Koshi, LS, HF (?). All towns for TT.
c) I am currently voting for one of his towns (LS) current target.
d) The reasoning that I had for being suspicious of HF (#609) is the exact same as the reason that he is null/conflicted on HF.

In summary: based on the 3 points above, if TT didn't find anything townie what so ever in my filter, then he must be lying. IF this is the case, the only purpose that makes immediate sense is that he's mafia. Otherwise, as stated, maybe he's not reading closely at all, but I think that makes him an OK lynch candidate as well.


This is the post I mentioned earlier btw. I think it's really good insight but it scares me because that means it's not emp as mafia. But I feel like it's a cop out not to lynch him.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 09 2016 21:39 GMT
#2795
Why you hef to do this man?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 09 2016 21:40 GMT
#2796
Hmmmmmmmmmm
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 09 2016 21:40 GMT
#2797
Is it possible onegu makes the play where he sheeps me because he's mafia? That way if I say we lynch onegu (mafia) he just makes some bs vote on me?

I dunno.

Stop making me wifom off you.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 09 2016 21:41 GMT
#2798
Someone not emp talk to me
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 09 2016 21:43 GMT
#2799
And of course you're all afk now
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 09 2016 21:45 GMT
#2801
I've unwifomed myself from onegu, sorry emp
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 09 2016 21:45 GMT
#2802
For what it's worth if you're mafia that was an excellent tt analysis.
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