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Just saw the resolution order too: Untargetable Redirects Roleblocks (competeing roleblocks with resolve at the same time) Protection KP Death Heals Checks So if you get hit for all your health, but a heal that you received in the same turn would have saved you, you die, because death is resolved before heals? Awww. | ||
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On October 10 2016 07:12 Shapelog wrote: Me right now:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FscIgtDJFXg It is actually a really nice day outside considering yesterday. You do not need to play Dota to understand it at all. It would help maybe, but it is explained to people like us whom never played. + Show Spoiler + Just remember, Turks/Russians/Flipannos are the greifers! Huehuehue | ||
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/in I will not read 70+ pages of people trolling D1, and I'm not sure I can do much at all in the weekend. I just want to Pudge all over this game. | ||
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On October 10 2016 05:03 Kurumi wrote: I might play, but ya berks gonna live with my trollin'. I read this as /in | ||
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On October 18 2016 02:41 Sn0_Man wrote: so many hours to be indecisive before forgetting the deadline Looks like a /in to me. | ||
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On October 18 2016 16:06 GlowingBear wrote: I'd play but I don't want to put effort And I don't want to read And I don't have time And I don't want to risk my win rate as mafia So same as me. I'm /in, why aren't you? | ||
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On October 19 2016 03:04 Dandel Ion wrote: ill in if you admit that lol is the best mobo Lol is the best. Let's go! | ||
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I lied because I am mafia | ||
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L2dota. Dragons are weaklings. | ||
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##vote Skynx | ||
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22 deaths. Not one of them was me. Sounds good. | ||
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On October 20 2016 09:41 Bill Murray wrote: Plus we can see who is gonna read ... or at least how many aren't I read your poll, but didn't vote. Does that screw things up? But anyway, good morning. Most notable thing that happened is Iamperfection role fishing. He complains about his role needing healing. And then starts regarding about coordinating claims. So much angst about how to enter the thread he forgets that town way of killing scum is by lynching them. Scum are the ones that depend entirely on roles. ##unvote ##vote: Iamperfection The WoS/ExO_ gives me a slight town read on Exo: scum reveal their revelations in scumchat. If he were scum and had uncovered a breadcrumb, he wouldn't be yelling so in the thread. It's also far less significant than he thinks. WoS could have been given any of the characters with a shadow (shaman, fiend, etc.) Or even wave (morphing). Still neutral on WoS: defense is not indicative of alignment. | ||
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But I don't have a scum read based on it. And Exo is way deep tunneling him. Step back, Exo, and look at other players for a bit. What do you think of Iamp? And BM's list? | ||
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On October 20 2016 13:02 Lord Tolkien wrote: Right so, people who I haven't played with and thus don't want to bother with learning to read: 1 Tictock 5 Skynx 8 beentheredonethat 9 ExO_ 10 Lunaticman 11 HamazuraXTakitsubo 12 Tubesock 16 Eversince 17 ptmc 18 Kurumiz Please lynch someone from this list pls. Why am I not on your list? | ||
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Does too. Town!koshi doesn't give a shit what he posts, he just wants to solve the game. Ends up posting weird insinuating crap that doesn't really help anybody. Scum!koshi does give a shit about what he posts, and makes sure his posts are good quality. Town!koshi looks like scum right from the start. Scum!koshi means I need a bit more time to figure out he's scum. Your pants on head post speculating about why WoS is scum unless he hard claims Dazzle right now is one of those posts that fits in the first bucket, not the second. | ||
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On October 20 2016 14:18 Bill Murray wrote: TLDR ritoki is probably town because i see ritoky + hopeless interaction as town/maf interaction and i think WoS is being mafcoached by hopeless that leaves me here town: bill , i am perfection, exo, ritoky, kurumi scum: WoS, hopeless1der i am NOT doing null this game so if my scum list exceeds 10 people or more i dont give a flying **** these are just my opinions Fine. I'll go first. Why is kurumi a town read? | ||
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On October 20 2016 19:03 ExO_ wrote: This is the worst part about this game, the people who won't actually make any attempt to play. Like it frustrates me to no end when people just troll and somehow they get passes. Why even play if you're just gonna sit around acting smug and mocking people. At least try to solve the game please idiot. ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2204554320/umadbro.png) | ||
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On October 20 2016 19:19 beentheredonethat wrote: Dumb reaction. If he's town (which I think) and genuinely pissed, then making fun of him will not help a town atmosphere to rise. Instead, it will just piss the guy more off. So either dumb reaction, or you're scum trying to piss off town. ![[image loading]](https://media.giphy.com/media/NZfgAFsnQBEI/giphy.gif) | ||
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On October 20 2016 19:22 beentheredonethat wrote: Nice reaction again! Welcome to my list of "scum or incredibly bad". ![[image loading]](https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/3/3b/Ohnoes_cat.jpg) | ||
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Do I think Exo is town? Maybe. I honestly don't know how much experience he has, but the vibe I get is more newbie town than anything else. But he should lighten up. And so should beentheredonethat (who I am not really getting town vibes on. Thread police is a role scum loves to take). | ||
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On October 20 2016 19:32 Lunaticman wrote: I just can't handle more of Koshi's platitudes. Obvious scum play as usual. #Vote Koshi Lol. Ignores 15 pages of thread. Votes with throwaway justification. You scum bro? | ||
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On October 20 2016 19:18 Dandel Ion wrote: but koshi never helps anybody, never good quality, always pants on head how does i read Missed this. You read like a filthy LoL player. As to your alignment, no clue. Sorry. | ||
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On October 20 2016 16:05 Holyflare wrote: ##vote ritoky The gif to try hard ratio is askew. On October 20 2016 19:32 Lunaticman wrote: I just can't handle more of Koshi's platitudes. Obvious scum play as usual. #Vote Koshi And a general policy lynch for: On October 15 2016 23:13 Vivax wrote: /in | ||
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On October 20 2016 21:04 WaveofShadow wrote: PS for the tryhards I'm not dazzle Don't even know what dazzle is Although with all the speculation woulda been cool to see what happened But anyway thanks for making sure I don't get shot at night, either way it's win win for me There are only three people in this thread who could actually ever conceivably get my role based on what I said But Y'all are welcome to keep trying Or thinking I'm doing anything other than attempting to enjoy myself :D So what was the point of your semi-claim? Regardless of who you were claiming to be? On October 20 2016 21:48 iamperfection wrote: From phone I doubt a scum acrofails reads the first few pages and decides to vote for me and has done stuff after that. Needs to stop being dumb though Coming in to defend yourself with a one-liner rather than participate in the game doesn't make you townier. | ||
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On October 20 2016 22:15 iamperfection wrote: Koshi could be town too Golly. You're useful. What makes you think that? | ||
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On October 20 2016 22:18 iamperfection wrote: I read his filter and it made me think town Anything specific? | ||
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On October 20 2016 10:09 WaveofShadow wrote: Of all of the 378 heroes in this game I find it kinda funny I got this one. It's one of very few I'm actually aware exist, and it's also strangely appropriate given my name. Some shenans defs gons be possibles this game. Keep me alive a while, k? This it? Or thinking I'm doing anything other than attempting to enjoy myself :D Anyway, I have some clarifications from the hosts regarding mechanics. This game gonna be complicated. For starters, I cannot move of my own volition. I'm going out on a limb here and thinking most people are like that. So we're going to have to coordinate things like force staffs. For the record, I don't have one, or any other item. Can items be dropped/picked up or otherwise passed around? | ||
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Why? I fully support nuking Holyflare. | ||
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On October 20 2016 23:35 Kurumi wrote: You are picking Holyflare over Lord Tolkien or Hopeless1der or beentheredonethat? I am supposed to be the insane one. Yes. I actually didn't mind LT's single action so far and want to see more. H1der I don't really have a read on, but he has at least been around enough to ask questions of (at one point). You can say what you like about btdt, but he's not lurking. Convince us to lynch him if you think he's scum. Holyflare is a great target for damaging. He has one shitty post with a throwaway reason for voting. He is a better player than that. | ||
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On October 20 2016 23:46 Kurumi wrote: You see nothing wrong in claiming KP and claiming your target so early? Besides it being on the wrong person. I'm not claiming KP. Just advocating killing him. | ||
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On October 21 2016 00:02 iamperfection wrote: Why are you posting things that aren't votes for Kurumi do you think he is town? No. But playing erratically is pretty much Kurumi's thing. So not particularly convinced he's scum either. | ||
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On October 21 2016 00:11 Kurumi wrote: Thing is I remember there being doto heroes getting stronger through killing people. No idea if items exist or how they work, but we might also donate these to Mafia. You want to lynch him - fine, but as it stands he looks like a piss poor lynch. Iamperfection claimed he needs heals to be effective. That reeks of Abaddon or Pudge. Pudge does also get stronger from kills. So maybe don't allow Iamp to kill shit until we are surer of his alignment. | ||
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On October 21 2016 00:33 Dandel Ion wrote: look maybe i dont know shit about doto champs so i cant speak to that but we can potentially have enough combined dmg to vig a scummy (or at least a useless) dude every night essentially if we do it right we get a bonus lynch per cycle that cant be that terrible im pretty sure it's better than some people getting some minor bonuses im pretty sure it's worth that one time we get screwed with, we can just do it all over again worst case we end up lynching the scummies and shooting lurkers. you'll note that this worst case is not very bad. because i dont think it is. unless you think theres something completely crazy that could happen but i actually think this game isn't going to be too wild, that's host wifom tho Not being able to hit anybody who isn't next to you in the player list kinda puts a damper on that. | ||
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Huh? Other than him having a wrong conclusion, I don't see the problem. Why would scum redirect damage onto someone who is shitty. They redirect onto strong townies they want dead. Dealing damage into a pool is safer in terms of how they can (ab)use town damage. It is also less useful, but still more useful than everybody just hitting whoever they feel like with no accountability at all. Moreover, a clever scumteam doesn't only redirect off themselves. They can also redirect off a poor townie to a strong one, in order to mindfuck town. I have done it myself plenty. Now lets kill Vivax. | ||
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On October 21 2016 01:11 Holyflare wrote: You fucking plebs. Redirect off a townie. Wasted a bunch of kp/attacks/abilities. Watchers watching wrong people. We lynch townie. Could be directed to pgo mafia, pgo town. We learn nothing probably mislynch 2 people in process. Sicklucker knows this he's king of tinfoil. He's just afk mechanic discussioned and keft no solid reads. Probably mafia. Drop subject. Now. Mafia reads. Not reading scum on ritoky. I don't see much wrong with his gifs or his posts in general. Seems pretty null so far. Now case me up! You promised! | ||
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On October 21 2016 01:10 sicklucker wrote: I cant acualy think of any busdriver dota 2 lore tho. I cant think of a hero that makes sense on. Dont mean there is none tho Well, there not being any dota abilities that have obvious redirects doesn't mean they don't exist in this mafia game. Especially given the mechanics specifically mention redirects. Blademail would be a PGO not a bus driver, I'd think. | ||
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On October 21 2016 01:30 Dandel Ion wrote: lets talk ptmc's #544 (soz cant link atm just look it up bois it his last post) i thought it was fine at first but i like it less and less basically repeats btdts content with something thats not exactly relevant to the situation but that looks like it is. Good catch. In fact, his entire filter reads like he's trying to blend in. Follows the "bandwagon" on WoS, then agrees with the pressure on lunatic. His whole filter is bland and useless. Would lynch. | ||
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On October 20 2016 12:09 Tictock wrote: Well I was sorta questioning if I had the energy tonight to get going on this... Looking over my PM I can tell that I do not. Just gunna pass out and leave this for the morning. It's morning. Tick... tock... where are you? | ||
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Heading for modkill: Rels Vivax (policy lynch anyway!) Eversince Not liking: Skynx (overaggressive and useless) Tubesock (sorta present, but useless lurking) ptmc (see above) Glowingbear (useless) Koshi (scumvibe from posts #429, #541. Oddly defensive and useless about his reads in other posts) On the fence: WoS (playing weird, no substance, but in the spotlight) iamperfection (fishing, improved later) btdt (too much thread police, do like some of his posts) Town: DI (is reading filters and having astute observations about them) ExO_ (tryhard newbie town) Kurumi (get a good vibe) No opinion so far: the rest | ||
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On October 21 2016 02:04 sicklucker wrote: im soul reading Acrofales mafia guys. Remember after you murder me We're murdering you? It's D1 and there is literally no pressure on you. Why u martyring? | ||
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It's because I lycan you. | ||
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On October 21 2016 02:31 GlowingBear wrote: Your post is actually very weird. You have no scum read, just a bunch of "not liking", most of them for being useless or lurker, which doesn't mean it is scummy Then you have a lot of people you don't have opinion on, which are lurkers and/or useless people. How do you trace the line between the lirkers you dislike and the lurkers you don't have opinion on? Easily. I read the thread and get thoughts about people. I also open filters and focus on them specifically. Also, I did kinda say that, didn't I. No matter. Now you're playing, I can lynch you. Yippee! | ||
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On October 21 2016 03:11 Holyflare wrote: I was all ready to say bm kinda looked ok for the first quote after all but then he's making really weird leaps and his thoughts aren't congruent and look like setups for later. Would probably lynch too. BM always looks like that. He always makes bizar logic leaps that just look bad. I just ignore him on d1. | ||
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On October 21 2016 04:56 ritoky wrote: Idk, while it doesn't seem like the most pro-town perspective in the game, it is one I can understand and empathize with. As someone who doesn't play mafia anymore (and definitely is done after this game) I can sympathize with seeing a player list of half ppl you don't know and don't particularly want to get to know cuz it is irrelevant to your future. Try to solve the world you know rather than figure out a bunch of new shit. So I guess I don't understand why his approach is specifically bad. I can understand why it qualifies him as policy lynch for inactive or not trying, but I fail to see where it is distinctly anti-town. Agreed. I read it and agreed with the sentiment. It's not indicative of alignment, though. He's just a null lurker so far. | ||
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On October 21 2016 05:34 ritoky wrote: town is something like: ritoky holyflare iamp btdt exo ptmc kurumi hopeless dandel wos Lol. Why are btdt, h1 and WoS in there? | ||
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On October 21 2016 05:47 Dandel Ion wrote: kurururu i'd like to say i agree but im not sure we'd put the same titles to some of those groups tbh and of course that one read you know which one I got ninja'd. Although *that one* probably referred to someone else for us. | ||
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On October 21 2016 05:50 Dandel Ion wrote: thats actually close to where im at on hopeless i guess i wont lynch this guy today The random role claim into 20hr lurk tho... | ||
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If tictock's stream of consciousness is real, he feels townie. Still deciding if real or clever scum-ploy. | ||
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Is that allowed? I thought that got forbidden after Chrono trigger mafia. | ||
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I have a list post. It's still mostly up to date. I'd be happy with lynching any of the following: Lunaticman Glowingbear Hazura Tako bell Tubesock All for being useless lurkers. Would also lynch Koshi: abrasive, but useless. No reads of his own. No pressure Ptmc: blending | ||
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On October 21 2016 12:04 WaveofShadow wrote: In other news, this post scares me. Only person who basically (mostly) nailed exactly what I did and I don't like how nobody but him seemed to pick up on it and he does so with relative ease. Actually I'm not sure if that says more about Exo than him tbh. I should probably go back and read iamps diarrhea explosion list Also Acro you have bedbugs?  My brother had those. He left half his stuff in a bag in the garage for months and wouldnt go get it Yeah. We moved into this flat before we realized it was infested. Moving out next week and we'll get the exterminator to spray out shit with poison, but we are also afraid of taking them with us. They are a fucking plague | ||
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On October 21 2016 12:23 iamperfection wrote: do you think im right about exo? No. I read ExO_ as a green around the ears green guy. | ||
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On October 21 2016 12:23 iamperfection wrote: do you think im right about exo? Are you stumbling over his preemptive excuse for afk? Don't really see a problem with the heads up. Which reminds me: post the stream so I can watch some Civ6. Please show some immortal+ AI so I can decide whether to buy! | ||
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On October 21 2016 12:27 WaveofShadow wrote: So what about the others I just mentioned? They're all acting similarly in that way. Not really. I agree lunatic, hamazuyuykatobi are useless lurkers. Btdt is ineffectively tunneling koshi, but he's posting a lot, and not really trying to blend. Not getting clear scum vibes for now. | ||
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On October 21 2016 12:30 iamperfection wrote: would you quote the fucking name you fuck Fairly certain that's ptmc he quotes. I remember reading that and thinking "yuck". | ||
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On October 21 2016 12:29 iamperfection wrote: because you dont think scum come in when they see a crumb like that... but scum also like to hop on possible mistakes by town and make big deals about them then they really are Yeah. I commented on my feels about that a couple of pages of my filter back. Just not getting that vibe. | ||
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On October 21 2016 12:38 ExO_ wrote: Can we just clear it up then, why did you open the way you did? Was there a reason for fake claiming a protective role or what? Don't just be hostile and dismissive towards me, work with me a bit He already claimed he didn't crumb Dazzle. So whatever he was hinting at, your assumptions are wrong about what he was claiming and why he was claiming it. He also gave his reasons for claiming, which don't make a lot of sense to me, but ppl do nonsensical shit all the time. So let's climb out of the tunnel on that one post? Has WoS done anything else that you think makes him mafia? How bout other people? | ||
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He has done nothing of consequence. Scum H1 is a worse lurker than town H1, and the lurk is pretty bad in this one. On October 20 2016 09:38 Hopeless1der wrote: aww so you mean i could have just lurked and never posted and I'd have won the game?! well shit....but what about ritoky tho? pretend i said "bill" instead of "lamp" in one of my posts asking about him if that helps. Looks like a scum slip. Town doesn't win the game ever by lurking until lylo. Let's kill him. Not just because of this, but because his entire filter is a big pile of trash. Here's another gem: On October 20 2016 10:51 Hopeless1der wrote: The part where you publicly outed the "doctor". This is a heavily themed and power-heavy game btw. Except that he didn't publicly out the doctor. Relying on scum being stupid and ignorant is never going to be a winning strategy, so this is just throwing shade. After that he flip-flops on ExO_ a bit before he backpedals and soft-coaches ExO_. He then claims and fucks off for 20hrs. His re-entry is to do nothing and promise to play today. There's a chance this is all just uncertain townie trying to figure it out, but it just doesn't feel that way to me. Add that to the lurk and I really want to murder H1. Let's do it! ##vote: hopeless1der | ||
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@ritoky: gogo all aboard the h1 train to scumville central! | ||
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On October 21 2016 17:18 ritoky wrote: What is the scumslip? On October 20 2016 09:38 Hopeless1der wrote: aww so you mean i could have just lurked and never posted and I'd have won the game?! well shit....but what about ritoky tho? pretend i said "bill" instead of "lamp" in one of my posts asking about him if that helps. The bold bit. Town doesn't win by avoiding getting lynched, that be scum that can win that way. Town can be NK'd, or worse, left alive as that one scummy town lurker for the easy lylo mislynch. It's not evidence of scum on its own, as H1 is responding sarcastically to BM's flippant ignoring of the non-posters. But it is another drop in the bucket of of his scummy play style. | ||
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On October 21 2016 17:29 ritoky wrote: ..........That is so far from what I would qualify as a scum slip.... Actually there's precedent. I thought I remembered that, and I die. From the caverns of time, I bring you the first time I caught H1 with his hand in the cookie jar: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16808209 Note the first part? A similarly innocuous, yet very telling look into the mind of a scummer. Let's nail this scumbag! | ||
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On October 21 2016 17:55 ritoky wrote: Also, the bolded alone might make TT mafia. Nice OMGUS you got there. | ||
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On October 21 2016 18:07 ritoky wrote: So why are 2 of you here but neither said shit about my cases. Because you wrote a page of text to say they are useless lurkers. Something WoS, I, and most of the rest of the thread had concluded pages and pages ago. See here: On October 21 2016 01:53 Acrofales wrote: List post! Heading for modkill: Rels Vivax (policy lynch anyway!) Eversince Not liking: Skynx (overaggressive and useless) Tubesock (sorta present, but useless lurking) ptmc (see above) Glowingbear (useless) Koshi (scumvibe from posts #429, #541. Oddly defensive and useless about his reads in other posts) On the fence: WoS (playing weird, no substance, but in the spotlight) iamperfection (fishing, improved later) btdt (too much thread police, do like some of his posts) Town: DI (is reading filters and having astute observations about them) ExO_ (tryhard newbie town) Kurumi (get a good vibe) No opinion so far: the rest and here: On October 21 2016 12:20 Acrofales wrote: I have a list post. It's still mostly up to date. I'd be happy with lynching any of the following: Lunaticman Glowingbear Hazura Tako bell Tubesock All for being useless lurkers. Would also lynch Koshi: abrasive, but useless. No reads of his own. No pressure Ptmc: blending There's definitely scum hiding in that list of loonie, gb, hazmat and tubesock. We can now add Vivax to that list, who I will happily lynch now that he won't be modkilled (/sadface). | ||
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On October 21 2016 19:16 Dandel Ion wrote: sup ill actually try to read the 12 pages or so im behind on but if anybody distracts me from that i'll townread them for preserving my sanity. so like feel free Meh, last 12 pages are just me being sleep deprived. Lynch H1der. | ||
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On October 21 2016 20:33 Dandel Ion wrote: skynx, i just dunno man he blatantly kind-of-soft-defends koshi, and it actually looks shitty enough that i think he's serious about it i dont like that he thinks iamps filter has nothing i dont like that his problem with tubesocks reads are that they "come out of nowhere" (#871 cant link deal w/ it), and not the content (i remind that two of the three were essentially 'exo for what other people said' and 'wave for tone'), or even the fact that they're just TRs. i dont mind the LT read actually i dont like the thread policing, but maybe thats meta nowadays, lots of newbies i dont reckognize do it so w/e take it or leave it. just post way more so i can make up my mind kthx Oh man. You see, lurking works. I totally forgot that shit was in the game. Add him to the list of loonie, gb, hazbro, vivax and tubesock. Man, town lurkies need to step it up, because all of those look like shit atm, and they can't all be scum. Right? | ||
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On October 21 2016 20:46 Koshi wrote: Palmar Themed Game And then the last 2 minis that weren't newbies, both hosted by btdt. Also the last 3 games I played. Also the reason why btdt and Luna got a thing for me now. Lets try this. Luna and btdt are both triggered by you playing the same style. How about you tell me how your style is different today, and then I will go figure out who I agree with? | ||
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On October 21 2016 20:57 ptmc wrote: Ticktock: + Show Spoiler + Hopeless' arguing feels town Exo prob town for his interaction with Wave Wave's arguing feels town Iam feels scum likes BM's post about Wave/Exo dislikes HF dislikes me for my post on Wave likes Acro dislikes Dandel's return on pg 23 as well as all his shitposting, but feels he has some good posts says it is normal to not like sicklucker Basically only productive posts. Town. Rels: has done nothing. Lurker -> Null Vivax: has done nothing. Lurker -> Null HF: + Show Spoiler + votes ritoky for meta-reads dislikes coordinated attacks dislikes sicklucker dislikes koshi for only town-reads and then going afk wary of wave, since he is only coasting dislikes the same post that ticktock likes by BM dislikes more posts by BM, but downgrades to a maybe mafia because he could just be retarded Thinks Skynx has a shit filter Thinks lunatics filter is scummy thinks i'm on point thinks ritoky hedges a lot dislikes that GB only placeholder-votes for ritoky dislikes ticktock for his general style and liking BM's post productive -> town Skynx: + Show Spoiler + Starts really weak, but then shapes up: dislikes Tubesock and BM dislikes LT pressure on lurkers still not a lot, but towny Iamp: + Show Spoiler + needs a healer wants to coordinate slightly town on ritoky townreads hopeless, acro, wave, btdt thinks acro is bad tho thinks koshi could be town for tone dislikes HF's lack of activity, gets in argument with Kurumi about it dislikes Kurumis defense of HF and pushes for votes on him agrees with HF's assessment of BM Lists all his reads, null: Tubesock, no interactions with the thread Acro, now has a bad feeling about his posts Kurumi, "nothing he does makes sense to me" Lunaticman, "I dont fucking now" BM, doesn't want to read his filter Holpess, ain't doing shit, no longer tr Ticktock, dislikes his post on BM, but waiting to see what he does me, I voted for him and now vote for Wave because he plays sub-optimally, I might be scum scum: GB: scum, doesn't do anything LT, lurker with only trash posts Skynx: doesn't try to lynch mafia Exo: unnatural tone, only talks about Wave, vote on Dandel lurker: Eversince, Vivax, Rels Votes Exo, direkting KP towards Lurkers or GB Wave calls iamp out for not having LT in his list, copies the same reason as he had in his list again Tries to get Exo out of his tunnel good read-progression, solid reads imo. town. Sicklucker: + Show Spoiler + claims Bloodseeker wants coordination HF leans town Acro is mafia (soul reading) dislikes GB not sold wave is town iamp is town, because he townread sl and hf now does not want to stack kp unsure -> null btdt: + Show Spoiler + Exo's post on Wave feels towny Dandel is only posting shit, votes him likes acros, dislikes Lunatics vote (disinterest or scummy) Koshi is wishy-washy, might be scum tries to keep the thread clean, towny tone scumleans dandel, but will not push him atm starts to push koshi instead votes koshi list: Lynch Koshi, Lunatic, Wave, Policy Maybe Dandel calls Koshi scum for still only being reactive Sees even dandel trying to solve the game, but not koshi dislikes sicklucker dislikes iamp: not much content, soft koshi defense dandel sucks again sticks on Lunatic as well, no longer wants Wave dead, Iamp instead. Says BM's weird posts fit his meta back to disliking Wave for dodging questions very productive, sticks to his reads -> town Exo: + Show Spoiler + Calls out Wave for (fake) claiming Dazzle dislikes the way Wave follows up on his claim Dislikes how Dandel clutters the thread, changes vote to dandel slight town lean on ritoky not a lot of variance in his filter, but I like that he sticks with his read. -> town lean Lunatic: + Show Spoiler + Koshi is "obviously" scum does not want to clutter the thread btdt gets a tone town read not sure on HF gets sr by HF, now HF is scum for defending Koshi I wanted to sr him, but he makes good sense in his defense and provided arguments for his reads -> town lean Hamazura: + Show Spoiler + Dislikes Dandel for shitposting Dislikes Sicklucker "for the reason HF mentioned" very little productivity -> scum lean Tubesock: + Show Spoiler + Likes Acro, Exo, Wave, not sure who to lynch dislikes Koshi, Hamazura, and vivax' inactivity unsure on GB, doesn't see why people scumread SL while also wanting to consolidate asks people for their reads might end up on me, tries to decide about Koshi hasn't had his eureka moment that gets him productive nothing tangible in his filter -> scum lean BM: + Show Spoiler + Kurumi is trolling shitposts for days gut feeling on ritoky, one of him and hopeless will be mafia (but he could be wrong) Wave is probably scum, Exo put into words what BM was thinking dislikes Hopeless Town: iamp, exo, ritoky, kurumi, Dandel Scum: WoS, hopeless Wave has provided enough to unvote likes tubesock likes lunatic thinks koshi is genuine votes HF posts self meta as to why he is not mafia ticktock is mafia is fine with lynching kurumi for his weird defense of HF likes Ticktock I dislike the self-meta stuff, his read progression makes little sense to me -> likely scum Acro: + Show Spoiler + joke-votes Skynx? votes Iamp for role-fishing slight tr on exo, null o Wave wants exo to stop tunneling, but wants to know why wave semi-claimed scum vibes of koshi -> koshi is town thread police is a role scum like to take -> btdt calls lunatic scum for his Koshi-vote calls HF scum for his ritoky-vote in the same vein He can't move on his own? Has claimed roshan unvotes iamp, because he wants to figure him out later Playing erratic is Kurumis thing? List: Not liking Skynx, Tubesock, me, GB, Koshi, on the fence: Wave, iamp, btdt Town: Damdrel, Exo, Kurumi (good vibe) Wants to ignore BM New list with Lunatic, GB, Hamazu, Tubesock as lynches, and Koshi and me -> Skynx missing LT is useless but he sympathises with LT's list rereads Helpful, and thinks he is Scum for being a useless lurker still thinks i am a good lynch Can you please look at BM? other than that, probably town Koshi: starts with a town tone, gets way worse after #493 nothing actually noteworthy in his filter -> scumlean Eversince: afk -> null Kurumi: his posts are not really helpful, and i disagree a fair bit with his lists (if i even decipher them correctly). Posts #1009 and 1012 are decent tho. -> null/scum lean ritoky: + Show Spoiler + likes dandel, dislikes hopeless because he was present and contributed nothing exo tentatively town Wave tentatively town likes that hopeless digs exo out of the tunnel also town HF, iamp, btdt (for activity), me, kurumi, dandel GB gets a scum lean for not fighting with HF gives two cases, for lunatic (not pushing Koshi hard enough as his scum read, his HF read is funky) and GB (no excitement) productive -> town lean Hopeless: + Show Spoiler + omgus pushes ritoky, but puts him back to null after answers Charge of Darkness is very close to Wave of Shadow? dislikes Exo's push -> Vote Exo tries to get exo out of his tunnel little meaningful content so far -> scum lean. Said he will play properly today Dandel: + Show Spoiler + claims Techies reads iamp town because he is funny gets called out for shitposting by btdt thinks exo is scum I liked how he brought up my point on Lunatic, and the interaction we had after it dislikes Vivax should be town Wave: + Show Spoiler + (disregarding his "claim" post) doubts Dandel is scum suspicious of btdt Acro and Kurumi are town lot of filler Hamazu gets townread wants to coordinate sicklucker reeks of scum, would lynch SL or btdt wants to make LT squirm scumreads me for voting for him Still not sure about him, so my vote seems good still. What happened with SL or btdt being your lynches? -> scumlean GB: HF and Acro might be town votes ritoky as placeholder useless lurk -> scum lean LT: wants to lynch people he hasn't played with before wants to kill Kurumi for emote spam useless lurk -> scum lean Now some of this has been outdated (started around page 61 i think), but that is where i am at right now The good: Seems like actual note-taking and effort went into reading the thread. The bad: Waffly and wishy washy. There's no reason scum can't make list posts, and simply calling half the players "scum leans" is not very useful. Then again, half the players are scummy bastards, so hard to make much else of that. Voting for WoS seems meh. We're not gonna kill WoS today, so put in some effort on finding someone else. For instance, you could join me on the H1 train to scumlandia! The ugly: DI claimed techies? Whut? | ||
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On October 21 2016 23:48 iamperfection wrote: Who will be here at deadline reply to this post Probably not. I will have my phone, but will be at a party, so should be socializing and not f5'ing a forum. | ||
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On October 21 2016 22:58 Hopeless1der wrote: I should be in and out most of today. Acro's case is on me is quite lulzy...and cherry picks a pretty small filter. Could you just...not sheep that terrible excuse of a case? Multiple people have expressed doubt about the case itself, and its relevance since I am notorious for living up to my name. I dont like ptmc recently setting me up for a lynch that he can easily back off of by saying "oh look, hopeless is posting, not lynching anymore" regardless of how good/bad my content actually is. Going to check up on Koshi meta in a bit. Still waiting on this... | ||
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Yeah, I don't mind killing Vivax at all. I just rather kill you. | ||
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H1der is a mafia read. I think my mafia reads are pretty good, so > 50/50 chance he's scum. Clearly the better lynch. | ||
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On October 22 2016 01:33 AFK Jungle wrote: Another thing on this. If your ability has any restrictions you may not say what those restrictions are. If your ability targets only dire. You may not say this. You can ask someone if they are dire. But you may not say why you are asking. Doing so past this point will result in you losing that ability. Yes we are reading the game. Wow. I understand you don't want the game to be broken with claims, but this doesn't leave many options for town coordination... Also, lol at "hey guys, I need to know if you're dire or radiant" "Why?" "No reason, but I am a doctor wink wink nudge nudge" | ||
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So, let's not lynch him. I guess he could be scum with a radiant-only no, but I don't think he is that obvious about asking iamp about his hero type. | ||
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On October 22 2016 01:45 sicklucker wrote: ya ok I dont get why everyone is scum reading an obv town. Like he acualy took notes doubt a first time scum is ever EVER faking that. would probably ride or die with this guy honestly Waits for mod confirmation. Hard defends recipient. You the comic relief guy, right? | ||
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On October 22 2016 01:51 sicklucker wrote: im tempted to vote lun for that last post. he cant possibly believe that Ok, but what makes it scummy? And honestly, scum make cases on townies all the time when a scum buddy is under fire. Not sure that's what he meant, but that wouldn't be stupid. | ||
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On October 22 2016 01:58 sicklucker wrote: hes saying scum has a plan to do x to distract town from koshis bad play. like lol what? . have you ever been in a scum qt? They dont ever do that lunatics not that new It was directed at koshi tho. How was koshi saying loonie was probably scum, while voting h1 a play to deflect attention from his scumbuddy? I agree that loonie's reasoning doesn't make any sense, but being stupid is unfortunately not indicative of alignment. | ||
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On October 22 2016 02:13 sicklucker wrote: now if you want to bring me an alternative lynch we can talk H1der | ||
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On October 21 2016 17:48 WaveofShadow wrote: Hopeless is always hopeless And lurky. Am not convinced. We can add him to the short list though Let's go. The H1 train to scum lynch! For real. He says he's around but isn't doing anything. He has a lazy "placeholder" vote on Vivax. Let's lynch! | ||
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On October 22 2016 02:38 Hopeless1der wrote: Not sure if weird mechanic or host error? I'm listed twice in this vote count as a lynch target U claiming meepo? | ||
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On October 22 2016 02:39 iamperfection wrote: Why do the hairs on the back of my neck raise when you post? You're just that happy to see me! | ||
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Why you want to keep H1 around? | ||
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On October 22 2016 02:49 Skynx wrote: Vivax is policy, Lunatic's filter is just terrible. Are you just flailing around looking for the lynch that will make you blend in best? | ||
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On October 22 2016 03:09 Holyflare wrote: I think Ticktock would be a great lynch. I disagree. Why do you think TT is scum? | ||
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On October 22 2016 03:11 Vivax wrote: Lul this game. My first post was just a giant idiot magnet, I just wanted to put something out there that had to sound super scummy, somewhat for fun, somewhat to see how people react. Can't believe anyone even takes the vote seriously (looking at TT). ##unvote ##vote Vivax Because I just really want you ded. | ||
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On October 22 2016 03:27 beentheredonethat wrote: That's actually a bad reason and feels constructed. Are you pushing a mislynch here that seems to be on easy afk town? There is no bad lynch on Vivax. At lylo, if the other guy claims scum, it is still a great idea to lynch Vivax. | ||
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On October 22 2016 03:32 Koshi wrote: What if I tell you I play like this because I am a town powerrole? ![[image loading]](http://i34.tinypic.com/2v3ri2o.jpg) | ||
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I took 7 damage. | ||
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Did someone ranged target me? | ||
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On October 22 2016 09:48 Hopeless1der wrote: No but when asked if he'd be around at deadline: Acro responded: But 20 minutes after Night post then spent ~30 minutes trying to figure out what happened to allow him to be hit by KP since the movement list didnt make sense. Saying you'll be afk, then being here to complain, then not giving anything useful...rubs me the wrong way. Ok. I'm here. I will be reading through all the posts I missed, but it was really easy: I was at the party I mentioned, which ended at 11:30. Some people headed to a bar, and my gf and I headed home. I did check my phone 15 minutes before the deadline and saw something like 150 new posts and a train on tictock. I was still at the party and had no way I could act for 15 minutes, nor time to even read all the posts to figure out why there was a train forming on what was, for me, somewhat of a town read. So I stuck my phone back in my pocket and hoped I was wrong about TT. | ||
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On October 22 2016 17:34 Holyflare wrote: I also kinda like hopeless a lot more after readin his night posts. Why? Isn't he just tracking claims? | ||
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Going shopping. Will read more later | ||
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On October 22 2016 19:21 Holyflare wrote: No, I just don't care that I mislynched him really. I made a good case and was wrong, it happens a lot. I did give him outs though because I had the potential to be wrong and people often soew more at deadline. He didn't give me a reason to switfh off him and that's a highly compelling reason to stay. This rings true | ||
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Sicklucker claims he can RB AND do a basic attack. I was told I have one action per phase, and basic attacks are actions, so I call bullshit. WoS didn't take enough damage. Claims 16 dmg. HF claims he hit for 5, LT claims 10, sicklucker claims unknown amount. ExO_ claims he hit Koshi, but he cannot have moved to Koshi. In fact, he cannot have moved anywhere except to me. Acro took too much damage. I took 7 dmg. Nobody claims an attack. Koshi didn't take enough damage. Claims 12 dmg. btdt claims he did 8. ExO_ claims unknown amount (4?). GB didn't take enough damage. Claims 6 dmg. Iamperfection claims > 6. Koshi claims 7. ritoky claims he tried, but was roleblocked. ptmc claims he hit BM. He cannot have moved to BM, and can only have hit Hamazooka (host error is possible, because if ptmc moved to where BM was BEFORE his move, then it all works) Questions: @ExO_: how much do you hit for? Someone could have redirected you to me. Not sure why, but we'll figure that out later. @ptmc: can you ask the hosts if they processed your move correctly? Will work on reads post and it will be up before just before resolution. I am around for chats. If you are looking for a target to shoot at tonight, I highly recommend, in order of importance: Vivax. Kill with fire Koshi. Disruptive scummy dirtbag. Skynx. 100% trash filter, and seriously flying under the radar. H1der. Scum until I say otherwise. LT. Lurker. GB. Lurker. HF. Haven't figured out the TT train yet, and while the case seems sincere (if just plain wrong), there is something off about him. Artanis. Lurker. That should do it for now. | ||
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On October 23 2016 02:20 beentheredonethat wrote: How does ritoky know she was roleblocked by the way? Didn't move to where she was supposed to go. | ||
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On October 23 2016 02:24 Tubesock wrote: Am I the only person who wasn't notified at all about what damage I did? I don't think anybody got notified about how much damage they did. But your role pm says how much damage you *should* do, if all goes according to plan... | ||
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On October 23 2016 02:48 WaveofShadow wrote: He gets his hackles up all the time cause I call him scum a lot. He's also a pretty vindictive guy in general when we play games together (we also DnD), and while I suppose it's not alignment indicative overall for him to retaliate against me, in his case specifically I believe he believes it's the right thing to do. He's also a highly strategic person and I don't believe as scum he would think the best use of his limited role KP would be to hit me as I don't feel like I'm a threat to anyone at the moment. That will change though :D :D :D Ok, I believe this. | ||
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On October 23 2016 03:04 Holyflare wrote: I also don't see how acro hasn't acknowledged the SL point about him attacking wave and also that Hopeless is essentially mod confirmed for trying to abuse the game. What point about SL attacking wave? It's literally the first point I have. He claims he roleblocked AND hit WoS. Makes no sense. And no, H1der isn't modconfirmed for trying to figure out what happened with actions. Scum wants to figure that shit out too. He spent most of the night pissing around on mechanics and OMGUSing me. | ||
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On October 23 2016 03:11 Holyflare wrote: that he was like a rabid dog trying to abuse pm mechanics wondering if there was a delayed-like mechanic and if he was mafia he'd most likely know due to there probably being a few of those roles in his qt Except that I don't get the impression there was a delayed mechanic at all... it's just WoS getting his PM late, mod error, or some shit. He was all "WoS, if you don't tell us the pm timestamp and what it said, you are scum blablabla", it was not townie (nor necessarily scummy. It was just shitty). | ||
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On October 23 2016 03:19 beentheredonethat wrote: Lynch should be top scum read and we habe 47 more jours to see what vivax (and koshi!) Are doibg.only a sith deals in absolutes, right? Fine, I'm a sith. Vivax is mafia, though. Fucking lynch the crap out of him. | ||
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On October 23 2016 03:17 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh I missed that. Did tolk confirm that I hit him btw? Cause that would disprove the rb. LT claimed he took 11 damage. | ||
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SL didn't claim he RB'd you. He claimed he damaged you and RB'd ritoky. Ritoky claims being RB'd, so that part seems to pan out. Just his damage on you is weird, because double actions? | ||
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On October 23 2016 03:38 ptmc wrote: I don't think you know that damage is processed before movement, and movement from the bottom up? I'm where I expect myself to be after attacking BM and BM attacking Ticktock, which he claimed. Oh derp. I was resolving movement from top to bottom. Will have to redo my spreadsheet. | ||
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Lurker. Artanis might not yet have had time to take over. Not yet convinced he's scum, but if he stays lurking, he's definitely scum. Vivax Did exactly one thing all of D1/N1: make 2 posts to deflect the lynch off himself, and town shit the bed. KILL WITH FIRE Holyflare He's participating actively during the night. He did nothing during the day except to post a case on TT. His night contributions seem good. I can't really read this. Skynx Nothing good has come from this guy. Could just be bad town, but feels like he is skating by. Had an overaggressive start to the game which was badly received. Then AFK'd for long enough for people to forget about that and did the bare minimum. Once again, active during the night (when we expect scums to be plotting in their scumchat anyway. iamperfection iamperfection shit the bed. But his filter is so jam packed with stuff, that I don't really believe he's scum. Keep an eye out if he stays around. If he's still alive by D3... sicklucker Erratic. Fake claiming. I have no idea what to do with this guy. beentheredonethat Mega filter with lots of thought. ExO_ Was green, but something really weird is going on with his night actions. Claims to have hit koshi, but it's impossible. Lunaticman Was a scummy lurker. Has improved a bit during the night. HamazuraXTakitsubo Scummy lurker Tubesock Like his activity during the night Bill Murray One of my surest town reads. This is town-BM meta Koshi Agree with the scum meta reads. Eversince, now NocturneMage Holy activity, batman. Good posts and thought about who's what. Great replacement. ptmc bleeds green, and with the mod note, very little reason to doubt. Kurumi claims targeting iamperfection. Has done nothing of note. But notoriously trolly and hard to read... ritoky probably just not-very-good town. Hopeless1der Nothing has convinced me my read yesterday was wrong. Dandel Ion Duh. This is town DI WaveofShadow Some minor suspicions, but nothing real. Probably town. GlowingBear Utterly useless. Also doesn't look like he could have hit koshi if other night action claims are right... did make some townie feel posts. Lord Tolkien Utterly useless And because you all love it, some more night action speculation: The ones that really don't make sense are: ExO_. He simply cannot have hit Koshi and ended up above me. Unless someone moved me. Glowingbear. He cannot have hit Koshi and ended up that far down the player list. Instead, he must have hit Hopeless1der, or WoS jumped him to get to Lord Tolkien. Jumping to Koshi, would not have put him below Eversince/NM Some kind of shenannies or fake action claiming happened here. | ||
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Anyway. Let's get this show on the road ##vote: Vivax | ||
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I am actually considering switching to a Koshi lynch: Koshi moved to next to where HF was, who is now dead. Lol. Some explaining to do, buddy boy! Also, Skynx jumped over iamperfection or vice versa. Either iamp attacked Koshi (quite likely), or skynx attacked btdt. | ||
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On October 23 2016 07:40 Hopeless1der wrote: Ranged attacks are a thing. Ability damage is a thing. I can hit anyone I want regardless of my place in the roster. BRB voting vivax What do ranged attacks have to do with anything? | ||
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On October 23 2016 07:41 iamperfection wrote: i attacked nobody Then skynx jumped over you to do something to btdt. @skynx: why did you attack btdt? | ||
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On October 23 2016 07:46 Hopeless1der wrote: You're saying Koshi moving equals him nking HF, but I've moved around despite having no movement abilities, and I can hit whoever I want. Roster placement is not a meaningful source of information. You haven't moved at all in my spreadsheet. People have moved up and down around you. | ||
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On October 23 2016 07:47 iamperfection wrote: i mean im sure there of plenty of abilities and shit that can mess with the order. i dont think we can confirm people as mafia just because they moved. Ok. Convinced. Let's kill Vivax. | ||
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On October 23 2016 07:49 Skynx wrote: Your methods of reaching conclusions are faulty. I attacked iamp. But why do you ask me a question in vain when you already made up your mind about my alignment and why do i even bother replying at all i have no idea fuck this. Any idea why you jumped over him to attack him? | ||
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On October 23 2016 08:01 Koshi wrote: But if you make me the second wagon I will refuse to use it. Obviously. Ok. We can always just shoot you. Let's do this! Vivax is one kill. Let's do a second in-thread vote for the other lynch. Gonna have to think, but for now I would be quite happy with ##2nd lynch: hama | ||
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On October 23 2016 08:21 sicklucker wrote: Guys im hard claiming meepo. Koroko is a liar Lol. I'm ok with lynching this guy too as our 2nd lynch. | ||
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On October 23 2016 08:27 iamperfection wrote: i see no evidence of 2 lynches I see no real risk in having 13 votes on Vivax and 9 on a 2nd lynch option. If it happens, yay. If not, koshi extra-double-confirms himself as scum. | ||
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On October 23 2016 08:36 iamperfection wrote: it doesn't feel right like double lynch doesn't really fit any dota hero i can think of. but I don't know why koshi would lie about it though as either alignment unless he is trolling or something I dunno. Ogre Magi might "multiply" our lynches? Anyway, Spectre's rolecop thingy doesn't make sense for Spectre either. So who cares about dota lore? | ||
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On October 23 2016 08:42 Koshi wrote: Also don't understand how people can think I am mafia while I have a double lynch. Prove it. Also, scum can get abilities like double lynch in heavy themed games. Gonna have to think what game it was, but fairly certain I saw it before. | ||
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On October 23 2016 13:26 sicklucker wrote: well if koshi is scum hes doing everything a scum should do at the bottom of the barrel. trying to get votes/kp off him There were never going to be any votes ON him today. We're 100% lynching the shit out of Vivax. | ||
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On October 23 2016 16:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Good morning, I slept through the night and forgot to do anything >> Koshi seems pretty town to me. I think at this point he'd be a bit more of a lemming if he were mafia after rolling scum for the last 3 games. Agree with Hopeless though that failed promise should result in gallows. Can anyone break down exactly why everyone really wants to lynch Vivax today? Because he's scum. | ||
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On October 23 2016 16:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: So you're just sheeping others, got it. Anyone else? Nop. I push dat wagon. I just don't feel like playing the game for you. Do your own homework. | ||
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On October 23 2016 16:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote: So, seeing if this wagon is anything other than a mindless sheepfest reflects extremely poorly on me? Really? No. But not spending half a minute to click his filter and learn that for yourself does. | ||
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On October 23 2016 17:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote: With Lunatic's last mafia game being this, I feel somewhat confident calling him town this game. Though I expect him to be able to play a better mafia game than that, he's going after Koshi and HF pretty early on which doesn't match with the complete lack of confidence and defensiveness of the last game. Skynx read didn't convince me it was authentic. This one does. I don't think a Scumtanis hard defends his scumbuddy at this point. So either Artanis is town, and thinks loonie is town, or Artanis is scum and knows loonie is town. | ||
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On October 23 2016 17:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I just opened ExO_'s filter and I want to lynch him already. Not sure if because of ExO or because he's scummy. ... He also seems to have gotten off his tunnel, which funnily enough makes me slightly more uneasy about him, but throwing him in the townpile for now. Make up your mind. This is so wishy washy! | ||
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On October 23 2016 18:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Aand I'm done reading filters for now. Mafia: Skynx, Vivax, GB Town: Dandel, Hopeless, Lunatic, ExO_, Ritoky, Koshi Rest TBD. Would like interactions. Why is h1 town? | ||
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On October 23 2016 22:43 Skynx wrote: Oh i tried. Only to get scumread and called out for it. I attacked you cuz i thought you were scum since HF was always town and you trained TT without hesitation with little cause. I'm not yet convinced you're definitely scum. And Artanis thinking you're scum isn't going to convince anybody. So just keep playing. Clearly everybody missed your reads, so tell us who, in addition to Vivax, should be lynched today? | ||
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On October 23 2016 22:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Activity was gone yesterday since I was gone most of yesterday. Feel like I've been pretty active today though. Apparently, your feels be wrong. Can't do much with that but I understand the issue. Anyway, where's your head at other than that? My feels are the same. Your case on Skynx feels forced. Your confusion of iamp and h1 feels uncaring... | ||
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On October 23 2016 22:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Rather than sniping at my case without addressing it, how about addressing it? It's a really feeble meta case based on (a) 1 game, and (b) someone else's meta. | ||
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On October 23 2016 22:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Hopeless asked me to look into him. I did, found him to be scummy with a sidenote. If I wanted to 'look good' I'd probably come up with reasons to townread him because having the same read as the person asking you to look into someone will rarely actually make you look good. As for not caring much on confusing them; they're not up for lynch anytime soon and they both look fairly townie, so I'm not sure why I should care that much? As a townie, I'm pretty clear on who my strong town reads are... Clearly you aren't. Mb because you know a priori they're both town and this read them differently... | ||
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On October 23 2016 22:55 iamperfection wrote: I'll be very tilted if Skynx isn't mafia Don't get me wrong, I think he's probably mafia too. I just don't like Artanis' "case" on him at all, and am also willing to entertain the idea that skynx is not scum. Now vivax... vivax is irredeemable. Even if Onegu comes in right now and says Vivax is a modconfirmed townie, I will still lynch him for being fucking scum. | ||
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On October 23 2016 23:01 Skynx wrote: As i replied to you in the night when you asked why Vivax is a good vigshot target: if we try to lynch Vivax we absolutely cannot afford to compromise. He will not defend himself and he objectively cant at this point. People will jump off the ship because they are bored or wanna get some more info or whatever and start going after people that are here and can defend themselves and thats when shit happens like D1 and someone else magically gets lynched. Vivax has to die, you know why. Ok. I completely agree with you. List the following players from scummiest to towniest, and explain why. Hama WoS H1der Dandel Ion Lunatic Lord Tolkien | ||
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D1: ExO_ claims he hit Koshi, but he ended up far away from Koshi. He ended up 2 spots away from where he started, and 5 spaces away from where he claims he would have ended up. D2: Skynx claims he hit iamp, but he and Iamp switched positions unnecessarily. Anybody want to claim force staffing or otherwise moving people around? In fact, does anybody want to claim an ability that moves other people, even if you didn't use it? Just so we know whether it's possible? | ||
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If there are movement-shenanigan actions in the game, then they might explain these movement shenannies. | ||
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On October 23 2016 23:56 WaveofShadow wrote: I have a good reason for thinking tube is town, but I forget what it is. Somewhere in my filter I think. tubesock was pretty active with some good posts during the night. But I count *good posts during the night* as not all that townie, because the pressure is off scum, so they often play a bit freeer (and in general, just plain more) while they plot their scummy night actions. | ||
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On October 23 2016 23:58 WaveofShadow wrote: This seems mega super bullshit as a power for the record. If you actually activated a secret double lynch then A) that is not even remotely a town power B) I'll be mad at onegu I still find it more likely that you're bullshitting rather than the above though. What are you not doing/not telling us? Ezmode. Vote for koshi: ensure there is 1 vote on him, just in case he has some shitty scum ability he can use if nobody is voting for him. Then we form 2 wagons: 1. Vivax with a large majority of votes 2. Someone else. I'm still deciding who, but one of (Skynx, Artanis, Lunatic, Taco Bell, Lord Tolkien) seems like a pretty good starting point. Now. If the double lynch happens as planned, yay! We revisit koshi tomorrow. If the double lynch doesn't happen, koshi confirmed as scum. He'll claim roleblocked, but nobody gonna believe that shit, and we 100% lynch him tomorrow. Worst case scenario: town wins. | ||
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On October 24 2016 00:12 WaveofShadow wrote: Although I will admit a secret double lynch to begin with is a super bullshit power if you're telling the truth and I'll be even more unhappy if you're actually town and we lynch you for it. Putting a secret double lynch in scum hands is a really shitty bastard mod move. Putting a secret double lynch in town hands you'd expect to go down exactly the way koshi is playing it: not keeping it a secret. Unless you give it to Palmar, then suddenly the top 2 die on the day the 2nd lynch is the one Palmar favors. But /shrug. | ||
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On October 24 2016 00:48 iamperfection wrote: he said he attacked me. i didn't comment at all on taking damage yet he claims an attack why would he do that as scum? Scum motive: he attacked you, and figured it would come out anyway? Town motive: transparency about what happened. I find the town motive more believable. Especially as his claimed action (hitting someone who looks pretty towny to almost everybody) doesn't line up with the movements in the list. He didn't even have to claim hitting you, he could have claimed hitting btdt and it would have made more sense. But scum motivation is not unthinkable. As scum in a heavily themed game, it tends to be a good idea to be upfront with everything you can plausibly explain away as scum, so watchers, trackers, role cops and other such shenannies don't catch you out. If he hit you and feared you being watched or so, then claiming makes sense. Skynx is a newbie and would not come up with this by himself, so this would mean some heavy coaching is going on in the scum chat. The only players in the game conceivably capable of this level of coaching are HF, WoS, you, and me. Maybe koshi? DI, Kurumi and BM are all capable, but far too lazy to do so. | ||
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On October 13 2016 18:48 HamazuraXTakitsubo wrote: I have played themed mafia before so it wont be a big problem and I have played games with 20-30 pages per phase. Other than to drop that info bomb, and say that I don't like LT either despite WoS's feels, I am off for a few hours. Should be around for about 5 or more hours before the deadline. Oh, and btdt is town. He is intensely irritating, but he's too hyperactive to be scum. | ||
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I like his return to clear up the damage on WoS. I don't like that he went straight to calling HF the last in the first place. Why call HF the list and not sicklucker? Struck me as strange at the time and is still not making sense. I don't like his most recent list. It reads like it took 0 effort to make, and was this made more to"show" he was thinking about alignments rather than actually thinking about them. In other words, scummy as fuck. I am very comfortable murdering LT. | ||
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On October 24 2016 00:56 iamperfection wrote: yeah but why claim at all why not just say i have no idea why i moved next to iamp. I guess if he is scum he may be just have a total misunderstanding of the as scum and not see why attacking the obvious town player is scummy. I'm almost 100% certain the guy hitting me and not claiming is scum, because if they claim to be shooting me they look scummy as fuck. I'd assume the same applies for damage to you. So Skynx claiming means they have two different strategies for whacking at townies. Two scum teams is possible, but very unlikely until proven otherwise. So Skynx dumb townie? | ||
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On October 24 2016 20:55 Vivax wrote: Yo, I was at a glacier this weekend and my care level for this game is really low. I'll just play now and you lynch me anyway. That's fine, I'd do the same in your stead. Needs more baby seals. | ||
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On October 24 2016 05:43 beentheredonethat wrote: seeing Koroko in the Not voting list. Does his vote actually count? A 3p that has multiple votes doesn't exist, so if Koroko's vote counts, we need to kill that asap. | ||
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On October 24 2016 21:10 ExO_ wrote: Koshi I'll give you one chance. Explain as much as you can how your ability works. Empty threat. He lives at least one more phase anyway. Might as well humor him. I don't really care how he claims his ability works, as long as the top 2 people in the vote list die. He could day vig them for all I care. If the top 2 people die, we can discuss it for tomorrow's lynch. | ||
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On October 24 2016 23:56 Lunaticman wrote: The lynch on Koshi day one should have been successful, he played awful and was way to engaged for a regular townie. His tone and meta is/was way to easy to read. Just look at him now, using game mechanics to scare you into not lynching him. The mafia obviously saved him by going for HF:s lynch instead day 1. Art is purely based on HF, you were a 100% lock scum read. I have no reason why I shouldn't trust HF:s read. I'm ok with lynching lunatic now | ||
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On October 25 2016 00:16 iamperfection wrote: I have no problem simply auto lynching every person that comes to the thread saying they don't have time or are busy I don't give a crap about your "busy" personal lives here | ||
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On October 25 2016 00:51 iamperfection wrote: Who will be here at deadline raise hands  Technically my hand! | ||
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On October 25 2016 01:17 beentheredonethat wrote: Korokos vote doesn't count. Just saying. Not voting are four people yet only three appear there. Also I know it for sure but I was told to not say how I got that information. Claims Meepo. GG. | ||
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On October 21 2016 05:05 Lunaticman wrote: I think it is very shallow as expected day one. It felt like he just wanted to assign blame to someone. Throwing the first rock if you will. I like your idea of building a town circle, that is always the most important thing the first two days. I'm also sad to see you say you will never play again maybe your just not in the mood. Also I'm off to bed nn. There's something off about this post. It could be his reads progressing, but up until here he has yelled "HF scum! Lalalala TUNNEL" and except for the early koshi vote, that's pretty much it. Here he is seriously analyzing HF's read on Ritoky, and saying that a d1 read is very shallow. It doesn't seem like a natural progression to be considering the quality of HF's reads at this point (which means it's a scum fake read on HF, which went from fake tunnel to undecided without a clear thought pattern). | ||
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On October 25 2016 02:28 WaveofShadow wrote: Why bother justifying this now when consensus has already mostly formed on him? Looks odd. Really? I should just sheep and afk for the next 4 hours, rather than reread the guy's filter? Dafuq?! | ||
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On October 25 2016 02:31 iamperfection wrote: My hair on my neck acro You keep saying that as if I should care. Go reread my other games. I wrote no differently. | ||
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I liked this response at the time, but in hindsight, I don't know. His whole position regarding HF is weird. At the time, I got a "ha, townie" feel from it, because it seemed like a townie who was frustrated by a fellow townie derping up the lynch. However, he started the game calling HF scum. Then backs off, and seems to attack HF every now and then without calling him scum. I am having trouble reading Luna. Luna, are you there? I want to talk to you, and seeing as your head is on the chopping block, you might want to save yourself. Don't worry if you're scum. Just keep afk'ing and rot in hell on the lynch. | ||
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On October 25 2016 03:23 Tubesock wrote: *Work cancelled so you guys are stuck with me for the next few hours. I'm voting Vivax. I want the second wagon to be Skynx. Skynx's reactions yesterday were pretty solid townie. I will go back and filter him again, seeing as I didn't get very far with Luna. Your question whether he would tunnel two dangerous townies right off the bat is a pretty good point. Usually scummers are careful not to pick fights with strong players (unless they are both scum and stage their fight, which is damned hard to do). On the other hand I don't feel he was picking a fight with HF. He was definitely tunneled on Koshi. But his whole mindset around HF is just... weird. | ||
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On October 25 2016 03:48 Tubesock wrote: So what's Lunatic's crimes this game? He lurked, and only has like 5 reads. He's consistent and fearless. Skynx....he lurks, fucked off when he's off the wagon ala Vivax style, martyr's and appeals to your emotional side so he can live. He made promises and hasn't done shit. I'm his biggest scumread (and Hopeless1) and we have seen absolutely 0. Because there isn't shit to case since he knows we are town. Having H1 as a scum read is a pretty solid one imho, and other than your stream-of-consciousness at night, it's hard to see you as townie too. | ||
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On October 25 2016 04:15 Dandel Ion wrote: im drinking tea right fucking now and its great you are dismissed footsoldier Noob. Beer is the only real drink. /takes another swig. | ||
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On October 25 2016 04:14 iamperfection wrote: Acro if you were scum and we're vivax today would you do what he did? You mean, dead seal, and then post a list? Probably not. When I'm scum and 100% getting lynched, I shit up the thread with memes. But other than being mildly amusing to me and my scumbuddies, it is only worthwhile when 0 chance of maybe turning the lynch around. Perhaps Vivax believes there is > 0% chance of turning the lynch around. If Vivax is town, he isn't playing as Vivax does when town. Vivax is (was? remember I haven't played mafia in like 2 years) abrasive in all games, but as town, he has a significant number of posts like his last one: insightful and useful to the rest of town. I remember as scum agonizing over NK'ing him, because of this double side to him: he had moments of brilliant insight, but basically ensured nobody ever took them seriously because he was extremely antagonistic and nobody wanted to engage him, or even open his toxic filter. This game, I have seen moments of usefulness appear at the last minute in order to save his ass. It worked on D1. I don't think we should let it work again, and have this same shitty discussion on D3. | ||
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On October 25 2016 04:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I would like to second all of dandel's posts pretty much the entire game. such a suckup. but I got a townfeel on you all day today, so meh. | ||
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On October 25 2016 04:09 Dandel Ion wrote: the crocodile guy was taken out of all the boatcounts, huh. this is just getting more annoying by the minute Probably a good thing. I'd rather have crocodile being an actual fake smurf from some wacko 3p role than a real smurf with a vote from some scummy shit voterigger role. | ||
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Dafuq? Anyway, you know ale is beer, right? Beer is not a synonym for lager. beer=coffee is the only part in your list that I agree with. It's basically: beer=coffee>fruit juice (really, any fruit) > tea > water Anybody who disagrees is scum. | ||
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Similar to our other scummy lynch candidates, he only really shows up to save his ass. But he seems worthwhile to give a D3. Next up: GB, but I feel the time to get a second train on someone other than lunatic is rapidly vanishing. | ||
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water might be good for you, but it's fucking boring. Give me my water mixed with caffeine, alcohol or vitamins. | ||
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Not sure it's scum, but there is literally 0 effort there. He admits to barely reading the thread, throws a vote at Iamp, for a completely bizar bullshit reason, and.. well.. not much else. Problem is that it is just too shitty to really take anything indicative of alignment from it: is someone playing extremely badly scum playing badly? Or town playing badly? Either way, has to die because there is no way to know. Wouldn't lynch today, but if I had that yummy Lina laguna blade ability, it would be hitting him in the face (well, him, or LT. Maybe Hama, have to reread all the short filters). | ||
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On October 25 2016 05:27 iamperfection wrote: Vivax can you post a seal plzzzzzz I'm having anxiety. That's why I like lynching Vivax. Lynching him always feels good  | ||
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Zzzzzzz. Lynch prevention shit is by far the strongest scum ability and I don't care whether it was conditioned upon whatever the fuck Koshi claimed it was conditioned was actually true. It's a fucking broken ability and should never be included in games. I was expecting shenanigans. But this is ridiculous. And yes, this was pre-written and not organic anger at all, because I am sitting here fuming since that stupid no lynch post went up with this written. You would have had organic fucking rage half an hour ago. | ||
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On October 25 2016 07:06 iamperfection wrote: Why do you think koshi should go first? Because the guy who uses the ability is 100% certainly scum. The guy he is saving is only 99.99% certainly scum. | ||
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On October 25 2016 07:09 iamperfection wrote: Like what are you talking about how do you know koshis ability didn't work or just wasn't blocked? Koshi promises double lynch. Instead we get no lynch. I don't believe in coincidences. Moreover, Koshi claimed it did damage equal to the number 2 for votes on the player, and claimed it needed 6 to 7 votes to kill someone (so presumably 10 damage per vote?). 80 damage is a lot, so lunatic should be dead, regardless of whether the "lynch" failed. Koshi is not in here acting surprised. He's in here acting mock outraged. Lynch the shit out of the fucker. | ||
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Well, DI scooted up next to you, so it sure looks like it happened: 1 Bill Murray 2 Rels replaced by Artanis[Xp] 3 Koshi 4 iamperfection 5 Skynx 6 beentheredonethat 7 Lunaticman 8 HamazuraXTakitsubo 9 Dandel Ion 10 Koroko 11 ExO_ 12 Acrofales 13 Kurumi 14 Hopeless1der 15 Vivax 16 ritoky 17 Tubesock 18 ptmc 19 GlowingBear 20 Lord Tolkien 21 sicklucker 22 WaveofShadow | ||
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On October 25 2016 07:41 Koshi wrote: NS made the night come so there were no votes. Something like that. So I got countered. There were votes. They just didn't lynch anyone. You lose. Scummer. | ||
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On October 25 2016 07:44 Lord Tolkien wrote: There are two possibilities: 1) Koshi is town and was derp enough to reveal the double lynch because WHY NOT, they can't possibly stop the ability (I'm going to assume because it's actually non-RBable). In which case it makes sense...until he gets blindsided by NO LYNCH HUEHUE. 2) Koshi is scum and was fake claiming it to kill D2 town discussion and turn all ire on him. At this point I'm leaning towards 1). Doesn't make sense from a self-preservation standpoint for him to be scum and fake claim the double lynch. Wouldn't do anything but draw attention to him. I'm inclined to say he's town now. He was going to be lynched anyway, and it's possible the ability had some weird condition that he had to convince town to go along with. | ||
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Scum probably stopped wasting regular attacks on me so they can KP me tonight. GG suckers, I'm out of this broken game! | ||
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On October 25 2016 12:28 Bill Murray wrote: lets talk about whos scum not whether or not this game is good or not i personally enjoy games with a lot of abilities but its all good... seems i got the short end of the stick but oh well You. You ignored my plea for help yesterday! I also don't believe you forgot to send in an action every single phase so far. Why you have to make me doubt my town read on you! | ||
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On October 25 2016 08:22 Lord Tolkien wrote: Bill no one's going to heal you. If we're healing anyone, it's ironically going to be koshi. Why do you want to heal confirmed scum? | ||
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What are you two on about? These were the movements in D2, all claimed and check out: Ritoky hit Tubesock claimed DI hit Koroko (moved out from between Rels and Koshi) claimed Lord Tolkien hit GB claimed ptmc hit GB claimed With these moves, the player list is explained. The weird movements are still D1/N1, and I have gotten no further in solving them. The simplest solutions seem to be: GlowingBear attack-moved Hopeless1der D1 ExO_ attack-moved Acro D1 Skynx attack-moved beentheredonethat N1 All of these directly contradict the claims made for these phases. | ||
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On October 25 2016 18:12 beentheredonethat wrote: I have a basic attack of 4. I have a powerful attack ability and I have attacked you three times now. I claimed that. I said I townread you because I wasn't roleblocked at all and I bought your rage. Mafia wouldn't do a no-lynch if Koshi hadn't claimed his ability. That means Vivax and Lunatic are scum. Else it would make NO sense for scum to save Vivax as he will be lynched/shot anyways. Either Vivax and Lunatic are scum and the no-lynch should make us kill Koshi OR Koshi is scum, Vivax/Luna alignment is not sure and Scum wasted a no-lynch to save what, an inactive Scum!Vivax? I don't think so. To me, Luna and Vivax are as close to confirmed scum as it gets, and Koshi is as close to confirmed town as it gets. Sicklucker's play doesn't make sense as scum IMHO. We should attack the fuck out of Vivax and Luna and I really want town to coordinate attacks. I will attack Lunatic. Sicklucker, ptmc, WoS, please do so, too, with the maximum attack damage you have. Dandel, iamp, Acro, please attack Vivax. Artanis, you too. At this point, I am considering Ritoky to be scum. Not enough activity, and he's popping up every now and then to not fall into afk category, and his posts imply that he's actively reading the thread. Talk me through it. Why don't you think koshi's ability IS the no-lynch? | ||
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On October 25 2016 17:57 Koshi wrote: If I had wyverns ulti on me, would I be stunned? Maybe I would be. Artanis can you answer? Did you do massive damage? Paged back a bit, but cannot find any reason for koshi to assume winter wyvern ulti'd him, nor even any reason to assume winter wyvern is in the game, or what the fuck the ulti would even do if it were. Did I miss a claim somewhere? | ||
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On October 25 2016 18:57 Koshi wrote: Cuz that makes fucking sense from my POV. He used winter wyvern curse on me and I got RB, and the people around me attack me for basic damage, probably also RBing them. If that happened. Everything is explained. Even the 5 damage they got. Okay, so you're just crazy. Think your explanation through. It makes literally no sense at all. At best, this is complete speculation. At worst, this is a TMI explanation of (a) Winter Wyvern being in the game and (b) what the fuck his ultimate would do in the case that he is in the game. Seeing as you're almost certainly scum anyway, I think the second explanation is the correct one and you're making up some bizarro claim based on whatever scum abilities are in the game. | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:04 Koshi wrote: I don't know if I am being unclear here. But for me it is100% obvious and I feel I have explained it 100% clear. So I don't understand why Acrofoles can't grasp what happened. Good chance he is just pretending though. 1. How do you know WW is in the game? 2. How do you know what his dota abilities translate to in mafia? | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:09 Koshi wrote: Well. iamp and Artanis both attacked me (this is fucking 100% confirmed to me) while they claim they didn't. gogo explain that. How do you know it was iamp and artanis, and not <insert random ranged character here>. You're making my brain melt. | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:10 Koshi wrote: Explain it any way different than I did Lion, Visage, Bane, Sniper, Zeus, etc. nuked you (or pretty much any other char with a nuke). Artanis got pinged by random ranged player 1. Iamp got pinged by random ranged player 2. Artanis also got RB'd by random player 3. Iamp didn't get RB'd. Luna, Lich, Gyrocopter, Tidehunter, etc. ultimated the lot of you, making you take lots of damage and Artanis and Iamp a little bit. Artanis got RB'd by random other player You see, I can ALSO make up random abilities for random Dota heroes. Doesn't mean they're in the game, or even have those abilities. | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:19 ptmc wrote: So what? Spectre flings a dagger to draw a Shadow Path, dealing damage and slowing the movement speed of any enemies along the trail. Units hit by the dagger also trail a Shadow Path. While treading the path, Spectre phases through otherwise impassable terrain. Rolecop target player. Will return the role name of target player, but not their exact abilities. This ability can be roleblocked but not redirected. | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:30 Koshi wrote: Ok now I want to see what Acrofoles has to say. The 5 hp damage is confirmed. Explain now pls I can deal 5 dmg. Spectre could deal 5 dmg. Lina could deal 5 dmg. Given that I know of 4 role pms, and 3 out of 4 of those deal 5 dmg, I don't think receiving 5 dmg is very interesting. | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Also I'm confused. You think I hit you, am lying about it but also think I'm town? wut? Exactly. Too many inconsistencies in Koshi's claims. Kill with fire. | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:38 beentheredonethat wrote: Redirects are possible. However why do you think Koshi townreads you? 3 minutes earlier... On October 25 2016 19:35 Koshi wrote: Well I figured that out. Was fun. imo kill Vivax/Luna first. Afterthat ritoky/sicklucker/skynx/Acro. the ones who don't die and don't have damage done to them. If sicklucker is town, he should check heroes for being full hp. Endgame it is up to people to find the mafia in LT/Hama and others. If WoS is mafia it is perfect for him that he can't post. I almost can't believe it lasts till forever. sicklucker probably knows it only last for 1 phase or so. Rupture isn't forever. | ||
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On October 25 2016 19:57 beentheredonethat wrote: Also, why exactly are we all townreading ptmc? Please point me to the post that confirmed him. It's mod wifom. But I think it's probably true. On October 21 2016 23:36 ptmc wrote: I have healing targeting specifically one of them, and i would like to know if you are among them. If you don't want to tell me i'll just have to try at some point. And in response: On October 22 2016 01:33 AFK Jungle wrote: Another thing on this. If your ability has any restrictions you may not say what those restrictions are. If your ability targets only dire. You may not say this. You can ask someone if they are dire. But you may not say why you are asking. Doing so past this point will result in you losing that ability. Yes we are reading the game. Usually in themed games, this type of warnings and restrictions are given so that town can't use ability claims to break the game. It was triggered by ptmc, and thus ptmc is most likely town. | ||
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On October 25 2016 20:20 ptmc wrote: The Acro/Koshi interaction doesn't feel weird to you? I can not see where Acro's posts are coming from, except trying to paint Koshi in a bad light. You got me. The only reason I try to prick through bullshit is to make the bullshitter look bad. Or maybe I just couldn't understand Koshi's bizarro claim based on hot air and "winter wyvern" speculation. Guys, I took 7 damage on D1, and 10 damage on N1. The only way this makes sense is if I got hit by ExO_ the bristleback. THIS is the level of claim Koshi was making. Except it went further. When pointed to the fact that WW ulti working the way he had invented would hit Artanis and Dandel, not Artanis and Iamp, he assumed that there are special mechanics that apply to this specific ability. It is 9/11 truther level bullshit: Step 1: invent theory to explain X Step 2: find facts that match theory. ignore facts that don't match theory Step 3: ignore all other explanations Step 4 invent further nonsense to cover faults of theory in step 1. Does this make Koshi scum? No. This is just dumb. Koshi is scum for a whole host of other reasons independent of this nonsense. Will explain why later. It's lunchtime now. | ||
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First off, I took the time to look over his recent games to get an idea of how he plays. Pretty similar to what I remembered. He is good as either town or scum. The only difference I kinda feel is that maybe as town he is more confrontational and prone to get into fights. However, I don't remember scum koshi in a heavily themed game. He was scum with me in GoT mafia, which was themed, but didn't have wacko roles, just weird voting mechanics. I checked out Aperture 2 where he was town and actually has a similar idea to this game. He has some item, and when people distrust his claims and what he plans, he goes apeshit. So... I'm no longer convinced koshi is definitely scum. However, I just can't shake that feeling. D1 he was just lurking and coasting by. And then came the claim, his filter is mostly about the claim, and I have copied some of the posts to show how this claim evolves: Double lynch: On October 23 2016 08:42 Koshi wrote: Also don't understand how people can think I am mafia while I have a double lynch. On October 24 2016 00:14 Koshi wrote: Maybe not a double lynch (also calls people who just took him at face value when he claimed "double lynch" stupid): Maybe you shouldn't see it as a fucking double lynch. Holy fuck you people. I am out before I tell everything. Justbullshit. Vivax/Skynx/Lunatic ez mafia. "Kills a guy with a shitton of votes" On October 24 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote: I cannot proof I am town unless you make 2 wagons? How hard is this too graps? Hey Koshi we will lynch you when you don't kill the guy with a shitton of votes. But spoiler, we won't give a second guy a shitton of votes. The clearest explanation yet: either a threshold or somehow proportional to number of votes. Has to send in the action on a specific player, and is thus not really linked to the lynch, just to the votes. On October 25 2016 00:40 Koshi wrote: Ok guys. Let's say I need to afk the next 5 hours and need to send in now. I need to know there will be at least 6-7 votes on Lunatic today. He also needs to be the second lynch. Well, he doesn't have to be but if he is main lynch it is overkill obviously. If he doesn't have the votes he wont get 1-shotted. On October 25 2016 01:16 Koshi wrote: Well. It happened. Everybody scumreads Lunatic so he should get ez 6-7 votes. I also get less effective with the more days pass. Now, this happened directly after the night started: On October 25 2016 07:12 Koshi wrote: I was hit for over 50 already so you can kill me tonight. This was not long after the night post. He hasn't had time to mull it over, or at least, not more than about 40 minutes, as we all sat there f5'ing waiting to be allowed to post. He is not interested in the fact that his ability didn't work. He is interested in the damage he took. This while the vote count, and thus what he last claimed his ability worked on, was unchanged. Votes weren't nulled, they just didn't cause a lynch. It doesn't make sense to just take this as "par for the course", if you are a townie and expect to have murdered scum with your awesome pro-town double lynch ability. I was in a rage and it wasn't even my ability. The explanation that makes the most sense is that he was fully expecting this shit to happen: he doesn't have a double lynch, he has a no-lynch. Circumstantial evidence: koshi is melee, and nightstalker is melee. We know koshi is melee because he jumped to HF to attack him in N1 (and mb to GB on D1, although it might be GB jumping to him too). A few minutes later, he claims that a "mafia ability sucked up all the votes". However, a quick glance at the nightpost shows the votecount is still there. There is absolutely 0 evidence any votes were sucked up. Just that the lynch didn't happen. In addition, we have this. I don't like doing it, but... "I told you so": On October 25 2016 18:57 Koshi wrote: Cuz that makes fucking sense from my POV. He used winter wyvern curse on me and I got RB, and the people around me attack me for basic damage, probably also RBing them. If that happened. Everything is explained. Even the 5 damage they got. I won't overanalyze the whole winter wyvern bullshit, which was mostly just shitting up the thread with baseless action wifom. Koshi: is your action refunded if you get roleblocked? Why didn't you claim roleblocked FIRST THING rather than wine about the damage you took? It all just doesn't add up. | ||
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Welp, Koshi. Guess you're off the hook tomorrow. We do kill Vivax first after all! | ||
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On October 25 2016 23:55 iamperfection wrote: He just played a scum game in a heavily themed game acro. Palmar's game What game is that? I looked at his profile and found Murder mafia, and other than that, relied on the DB. | ||
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On October 26 2016 00:42 iamperfection wrote: Anyone disagree? Not me There's too much possibility for protection, or reflection.On the other hand, we may be wifomming mafia into using their protection elsewhere! But imho shoot scummy shit that isn't Vivax: Luna Koshi GB LT in particular. | ||
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On October 26 2016 01:00 sicklucker wrote: well if your mafia you can coordinate that with your team.. its getting pretty far fetched but its still possible you claimed this with the intention to have your team mate stop it. motives are pretty weak tho 1) Damage can be real. People attacking koshi does not sound surprising to me. 2) For real. How many people in this game can do 5 damage? 3) BM didn't confirm Artanis/Koshi attacked one another. He derped when looking at the movement charts. 4) I believe Artanis And moreover, it should have hit DANDEL, not Iamperfection, and DI claimed no damage. So... 9/11 truther level critical thinking here. | ||
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On October 26 2016 01:05 sicklucker wrote: Damn I recieved 5 damage not 4 or 6 something is strange here Read the thread back to front, you derpface. Your thoughts aren't original, because people have already pointed this out... | ||
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On October 26 2016 01:29 sicklucker wrote: no your 5 damage was a mafia aoe attack that also hit me artanis and others. so we are obvious towns now I think Claiming a random 5 dmg aoe makes marginally more sense than something uber specific like winter wyvern ultimate. It's just that the people hit are randomly distributed over the board. I guess something like Phantom Lancer's ultimate might do something like that? But seems pretty OP for a mafia daytime ability. | ||
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On October 26 2016 01:35 sicklucker wrote: did you recieve your damage at night iamp? the 5 damage. to acro- literally everyone between me and iamp has recieved 5 damage or is not around to tell us they didnt recieve final damage. We must investigate this Wut? You're worlds away from each other (and were on D2 too). For starters, I am between you two and took 0 damage on D2. This is the players between you two: iamperfection Skynx beentheredonethat Lunaticman HamazuraXTakitsubo Koroko ExO_ Acrofales Kurumi Hopeless1der ritoky Vivax Tubesock GlowingBear sicklucker Moreover, Artanis is not between you two. | ||
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On October 26 2016 01:40 sicklucker wrote: he was at the time he moved. look at the playerlist I got Where the hell are you getting the player list from? That was the D2 player list. The N2 player list has you two even further apart. | ||
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On October 26 2016 01:41 sicklucker wrote: oh ya I received the damage on the 22ed not last night. when did you recieve the damage? \facepalm | ||
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On October 26 2016 01:43 sicklucker wrote: Its a mess acualy and the information on it is so scattered. oh well I tried Not keeping track of claims. Confirmed scum  | ||
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On October 26 2016 01:46 Koshi wrote: I am going to die so you people can read my pm. To not break the rules I will say, people that attack me get 5 damage, and this is confirmed by btdt getting 3 times 5 damage when he attacked me. But again. You can read it yourselves soon enough. I wondered about 2 things. 1) Why didn't my ulti go through 2) Why did I get so much damage. 1) I still don't know because this game has a closed set up and all kind of shit can happen. But my opinion is that I got stunned by something and due to BM saying I did 5 damage to Artanis I believe people around me attacked me. Winter Wyvern just makes sense to me. So if somewhere in the game you copcheck somebody and he is WW just murder him. Also, I can't be RB'ed. So I knew it wasn't that. 2) I didn't know what happened to my ulti so I just ignored that for the time being, thought it was tied to the darkness thing, thought the night kinda came early so the EoD resolution just didn't happen, anyway, I was upset about getting so much damage so I whined about that. I felt I played a very townie D2. Almost cheated my way to confirmed town status, but you people are really just too dense. PS: I still have my ulti. That I know. PSII: RIP Koshi Not role blocked, but didn't happen. And you still have the ability? What madness is this? Did you ask the hosts? | ||
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On October 26 2016 04:34 Skynx wrote: You can ask questions here in meantime, I keep an eye on both tabs. Are you scum? Because that biggish post up there sure looks like it... | ||
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On October 26 2016 05:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Hi brain=dead. We still murdering Vivax at night ye? Too much risk imo. Scum knows we really really want him dead. If there's ever a moment to blademail, shallow grave, remote mine or random other protection or pgo ability, this is it. | ||
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On October 26 2016 05:27 iamperfection wrote: On phone did lunatic ever pursue people on tick? There were posts about that, but I think it was btdt doing that legwork. | ||
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On October 26 2016 02:30 ptmc wrote: I was too late to make a reasonable switch. I came in with like 5-10 mins maximum, and that was not enough time to convince me of killing TT (one of my solid TR's) or Koshi. Since it didn't matter much for the final votes, I just stuck to what I knew, which was that Wave felt scummy. A lot of attacks are 5 dmg, i think. But coupled with this: we could maybe make something happen. I'll work on it tomorrow if it isn't done by then. And shit was i ever salty today. People in my office even asked if everything was ok. Anyway, because you derps don't even keep track of movements, I'll copy this from my spreadsheet. But srsly, movements are the easiest to track. Claims are tricky, but movement... here: Starting: Tictock Rels Vivax Holyflare Skynx iamperfection sicklucker beentheredonethat ExO_ Lunaticman HamazuraXTakitsubo Tubesock Bill Murray Acrofales Koshi Eversince ptmc Kurumi ritoky Hopeless1der Dandel Ion WaveofShadow GlowingBear Lord Tolkien N1: Bill Murray Rels/Artanis[Xp] Dandel Ion Holyflare Skynx iamperfection beentheredonethat Lunaticman HamazuraXTakitsubo ptmc ExO_ Acrofales Eversince/NM Kurumi Hopeless1der ritoky Vivax Koshi GlowingBear sicklucker WaveofShadow Tubesock Lord Tolkien D2: Bill Murray ptmc Rels/Artanis[Xp] Dandel Ion Koshi iamperfection Skynx beentheredonethat Lunaticman HamazuraXTakitsubo Koroko ExO_ Acrofales Kurumi Hopeless1der ritoky Vivax Tubesock GlowingBear sicklucker WaveofShadow Lord Tolkien N2: Bill Murray Rels/Artanis[Xp] Koshi iamperfection Skynx beentheredonethat Lunaticman HamazuraXTakitsubo Dandel Ion Koroko ExO_ Acrofales Kurumi Hopeless1der Vivax ritoky Tubesock ptmc GlowingBear Lord Tolkien sicklucker WaveofShadow The actual movements, or at least, my most reasonable guess as to what could produce these changes, in combination with claims: D1: Vivax -> Koshi sicklucker -> WoS ExO_ -> Acro (????? claimed hit Koshi) tubesock -> LT BM -> ticktock ptmc -> BM ritoky -> glowingbear Dandel -> Rels/Artanis glowingbear -> H1der (????? claimed hit Koshi) Note that there are some other ways of getting the list, in particular the bottom part. Instead of glowingbear moving to H1der, it could be that LT stayed put, and WoS moved up to LT, however that is counter claimed by both WoS and LT (LT claims he moved up to WoS, and WoS has not claimed any movement and I saw no reason in his filter to assume he hit LT in any case). Exo's position doesn't really seem unifiable with the claim. N1: Skynx -> btdt (????? claimed hit Iamperfection) tubesock -> vivax koshi -> holyflare ptmc -> BM koroko created between Hama and Exo There is one unexplained move. This could also be explained if iamperfection moved to attack koshi on N1. Iamperfection claimed "no attack". D2: ptmc -> glowingbear ritoky -> tubesock dandel -> koroko lord tolkien -> glowingbear All these moves line up with claims Converting from google docs to post format took longer than I thought. Guess it's time for a quick nightly reads too: Kill with fire: Vivax Koshi Lunatic Slow roast (from scummiest to nulliest): GB LT Hama (probly modkill territory :/ ) H1 Kurumi (can I use my wildcard on what the fuck he is?) ritoky Skynx Town in order of certainty: Iamp WoS Artanis btdt sicklucker Dandel (probably. downgraded because his activity is dropping) BM (probably) ptmc (probably) tubesock (least certain of the lot) Meepo: Exo (doesn't feel townie effort, but don't get a scum feel either). Koroko (duh) | ||
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On October 26 2016 07:13 Hopeless1der wrote: I got bloody trucked. Good lord. ##vote: Vivax I don't believe you. Well, that's not true. I just don't believe scum could have hit you. I got hit for a metric fuckton and btdt died, almost certainly to scum damage. | ||
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On October 26 2016 07:20 Skynx wrote: It's an indistinguishable visit, what you take from it depends on your interpretation? Yes. We are playing mafia. Not monopoly. | ||
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On October 26 2016 15:49 ExO_ wrote: The first thing I notice is this. On day 1 we had: + Show Spoiler + On October 22 2016 03:39 disformation wrote: Vote Count - Day 1 Vivax (5): Tubesock, iamperfection, Hopeless1der, Lunaticman (4): ritoky, Koshi, HamazuraXTakitsubo, sicklucker, Koshi (3): Lunaticman, beentheredonethat, Skynx ritoky (2): Holyflare, Kurumi (2): WaveofShadow (1): Dandel Ion (1): Lord Tolkien (1): Kurumi Tictock (1); Vivax Rels (0): ptmc (0): Skynx (0): iamperfection (0): Holyflare (0): beentheredonethat (0): Hopeless1der (0): ExO_ (0): Not voted (4): Tictock, Rels, Eversince, WaveofShadow It looks like Vivax is about to be owned. Day 1 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00) and resolves one hour later, at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted. HF came in and voted TT, and then you have iamp, Tubesock, Dandel, Ritoky all within 5 minutes of each other. This made him the lead wagon at 7 votes, with lunatic man being 2nd closest at 3. Tubesock then bails for Koshi, a few other random votes happen, before BM/Koshi/bndt all come in to seal the deal. On day 2 Vivax was basically a lock, before lunatic started really picking up some steam. TS says some really interesting things in this time period: + Show Spoiler + On October 25 2016 02:48 Tubesock wrote: I don't think Lunatic is mafia. But I don't have any solid reasons. Mostly I didn't like the wagon yesterday. ##Unvote ##Vote: Vivax ##Vote: Skynx On October 25 2016 03:39 Tubesock wrote: I think Luna is town. I won't vote for him. Looking through his filter, I tried to gather his reads. Towns: beentheredonethat 1 of Koshi/Artanis (and only because of dead HF) I think that's it. Scums: HolyFlare Koshi (if not Koshi then Artanis[Xp] and 100% sheep of HF) I don't know Lunaticman. Never played with him. But if he is mafia, is he lunatic enough to tunnel hard on 2 strong willed players? Like right out the gate. He immediately votes Koshi, then still within the first 12 hours or so of the game he starts on HF. And Never leaves either of them the ENTIRE time. He's still on Koshi. Mafia or town, going headstrong on HF kinda means you just may die. Lunaticman attacks and goes after him. He doesn't veer off from them. WHich i think is towny too. I know when I start thinking strongly that someone is mafia, I get more obstinate. It pretty much dominates my conversation if no one is listening or agreeing. There was shade on HF when he wasn't playing. Then he did and everyone thought he was town (otherwise why follow his TT case?). Lunatic still scum'd him till HF died. He had perfect opportunity to town HF and get off HF's bad side and still look good for going up against him. But town doesn't do that. I spoiled a few of his posts but not all. The ones I skipped either were repeats of earlier posts (like HF is scum for making him appear bad) etc. I think his main crime isn't putting in 12 hours a day here and only giving 5 player reads. Maybe a bit defensive but I've seen worse from town. Lunaticman is town. + Show Spoiler [1st post votes Koshi] + On October 20 2016 19:32 Lunaticman wrote: I just can't handle more of Koshi's platitudes. Obvious scum play as usual. #Vote Koshi + Show Spoiler [towns beenthere] + On October 20 2016 21:30 Lunaticman wrote: The tone of beentheredonethat reads as town to me, putting him in my town circle for now. + Show Spoiler [Fear reads HF, next post scums HF] + On October 21 2016 01:22 Lunaticman wrote: HF, looking like town but I'm not ready to buy what's on sale yet. Still have trust issues with you. On October 21 2016 04:37 Lunaticman wrote: That is some shady accusations without any reasons and I beg to differ greatly. I have been on point, I think you are trying to undermine my credibility. Typical mafia play. Second mafia is probably HF after Koshi. + Show Spoiler [angst spirit] + On October 21 2016 04:39 Lunaticman wrote: Stop sheeping and undermining me, I was meta reading Koshi independently from anyone, in fact bt was sheeping my read not the other way around. HF is obviously trying to make me look scum. + Show Spoiler [defensive] + On October 21 2016 04:46 Lunaticman wrote: I think I made at least 3 posts explaining why. On October 21 2016 04:50 Lunaticman wrote: haha yes you can say it like that if you want but it is more the way it was done. No reasoning just undermining my credibility with no reason and ignoring it as soon as possible, changing the subject from Koshi etc. + Show Spoiler [More HF Scum] + On October 22 2016 18:39 Lunaticman wrote: HF this entire post is just undermining town authority, not one real target just suspicion on an endless merry go around. Your playing exactly like Koshi. You also spend to much time mining credibility from other players making sure to get on their good side and playing on your reputation. For example why are there no townies on your list? That is more important than 6 different scum reads that amount to nothing. A more productive move would be to try to analyze how the wagon formed and why. That way we could probably see if Koshi was indeed saved by a scum mate or not. On October 22 2016 19:07 Lunaticman wrote: Chill, maybe I was a bit vague. I wanted you to elaborate a bit more on the "case" from your perspective and why the miss lynch was so successful. So I can analyze if you are indeed town or not. For example you look extremely scummy for saving Koshi and miss lynching. I also find it disturbing that even though you haven't contributed with anything productive for the town expect a miss lynch you still seem to want to be the town leader. Everything I have seen from you points to you being mafia, especially from a meta perspective. The only thing I find a bit lenient is that town tends to make more mistakes than mafia so that's nice I suppose. + Show Spoiler [Koshi/Art 1 is mafia] + On October 24 2016 00:10 Lunaticman wrote: There is one scum between Koshi/Artanis we have to put trust in HF:s read. I'm sorry I ever doubted you HF! <3 On October 24 2016 23:48 Lunaticman wrote: Also either of Art and Koshi are mafia so you remember when I die. The really interesting thing here is these posts are about 50 minutes apart. Instead of seeing something then drawing a conclusion based on what he saw, TS first drew the conclusion that lunaticman is town, then found the evidence to back it up. I find TS highly suspicious.He hops off the Vivax wagon (after being the first to vote him), and then he hops off the TT wagon day 1 as soon as it got a majority. He defends lunaticman as the lunatic wagon is gaining steam on day 2. And then surprise No lynch on day 2. I think this heavily implicates Tubesock. I could see Lunaticman being either scum or town here. It makes a lot more sense to me if Lunaticman is scum, as it would explain why day 2 ends without a lynch with the threat of Koshi's Double lynch. However for me to accept this idea Koshi has to be telling the truth. I can't stand playing with Koshi b/c of how intolerable he is to everyone. It makes me think he's a lying and scum even when he is telling the truth. On the other side of the coin, I could also see TS making a case for Lunaticman in an attempt to earn towncred for later. But then I'm left with the question: why did day 2 end without a lynch? Maybe scum didn't end the day maybe it was a 3rd party role? Or maybe Vivax is scum and the move was purely to keep him alive?...hmmm I'm not sure. Either way, my initial thoughts are that TS looks very scummy to me. I think I'm gonna check out Koshi now. But I think TS is my strongest scum read after Vivax. Too many mental gymnastics. They stopped the lynch to prevent Vivax from getting lynched, and obviously frustrating the hell out of town. Added bonus, if koshi is town then they have a double reason to no-lynch: wasting town ultimates is always good for scum. @koshi: can you confirm you still have your vote-damage/double lynch ability? If so, i trust WoS and we need a 2nd wagon on gb by the end of the day. | ||
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On October 26 2016 09:40 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh that's very interesting. Did Lunatic ever claim being hit before? Who did btdt attack before? Was it Koshi? I guess I was assuming he'd try to max out his power by going for the same person both nights but if thought Koshi was scum D1 and then not D2 that obviously makes sense Btdt attacked koshi 3 times. Then Luna once. Pity. If he has stuck on koshi, koshi would probably be dead, with that 68 dmg + whatever other people did to him. | ||
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On October 26 2016 11:13 WaveofShadow wrote: I guess maybe I'm not super surprised I'm not being hailed as town hero just yet, but 'what' is all you can muster? All hail the conquering hero! What? | ||
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On October 26 2016 12:52 GlowingBear wrote: I'll tell you how they align. You've just hinted you confirmed me as mafia by using ways related to mechanics. It means you're lying or you're bluffing, because I am town. Therefore, you must have very strong reasons for which you believe I am mafia, or you're just simply mafia, which I'm starting to believe in. I've only seen you saying I'm useless. The problem is that (1) being useless doesn't mean I'm mafia and (2) I'm not being that useless since I'm posting reads from times to times. You don't seem to care for those reads I post. You only seem to be interested in pushing my lynch without reevaluating if you're wrong or not. You don't react to the new information I post in thread at all. You're playing an easy game. My question is: how can you keep calling me useless without even giving me the chance to be town? Why are you so right on me being mafia that nothing changes the way you think? I've done NOTHING scummy in order to have you this tunneled on me. You're also being quite selective between the lurkers. Say, what's so different between my play and hopeless' play in your POV?  | ||
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On October 26 2016 13:00 GlowingBear wrote: Pretty sure you're Mafia. I'm voting you and no one else today The fuck you are. Vote Vivax or I consider it a scumclaim. | ||
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On October 26 2016 09:03 WaveofShadow wrote: Like I said, depending on HP values and between scum factional KP and abilities this is entirely possible, and I have no reason to believe the both of you didn't eat it tonight. I don't think they're spreading out damage to any real extent. They did enough to kill btdt, and hit me for 50+ damage. If I wasn't awesome, I would be dead. That lines up with their NKs on N1. | ||
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On October 26 2016 17:03 Bill Murray wrote: i like exo's ts read a lot I think his analysis of D1 voting behavior can be on point. I don't think we should try to read anything in D2 voting behavior. Scum already knew they could no-lynch, so would happily bus their buddy. In addition, the wagons were almost unanimous. I'll reread tubesock D1, but I remember I only really put him in my townpile based on later behavior. | ||
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On October 26 2016 20:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: That you save a lynch on them? I have like 15 heroes or something in my objectives total. Wtf wtf wtf. Okay. Too bizar a time to claim to really mistrust right now... but this is bizar. If you have 15 heroes, that's greater than half the game. Presumably you had a winching with one of the guys that flipped already. Tell us what you had to do or face death by basic attack... | ||
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On October 26 2016 21:36 Koshi wrote: ritoky claims that placing an item that he got from the hosts costed his entire turn? I find that hard to believe. -He claims to be 3p -He gets an item completely useless to his role. -He gets an item that is solely "pro-town" as 3p, sounds like backseat modding and I don't think they would do that. -The item does completely nothing, I was hit for tons each day and then right when I am about to die nothing happens. -The item sees I heal myself? Which seems like a tracker and not a watcher. Which is pretty cool so I am confirmed not doing bad things. Ritoky should be forced to claim his wincon to the smallest details. Because even with mafia killing each day 3 townies, the game still lasts long enough for him to make 5, even 6 copies. Unless Vivax is not mafia and we decide to not lynch mafia 3 more times after that. Which I don't believe at all. If Vivax flips town, Ritoky should always be the next lynch. Not that a single hair on my head thinks that. | ||
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On October 26 2016 23:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'm the only third party 'round here. They best be calling themselves fourth and fifth party. Still catching up. There better be some verifiable claims there or I'm calling bullshit. | ||
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On October 26 2016 22:11 Koshi wrote: Ignoring them is bad play. Look at iamp in Palmar Themed game. Pressure them hard and learn everything they can do or kill them. Then they are forced to claim everything or play against their wincon. This makes sense. And Koshi can be scum AND saying these things at the same time. I'm so happy  | ||
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On October 26 2016 22:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Spectre died and was in there. He was one of the heroes I needed to deliver fatal dmg to for one of my objectives. Did you? | ||
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On October 26 2016 23:07 GlowingBear wrote: Last night I forgot to take action and I didn't do a single attack in this game What did you do d1? Your movement is unexplained. I think you hit H1der... | ||
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Are you secretly an SK and those 15 heroes are simply your hit list? | ||
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On October 26 2016 23:24 GlowingBear wrote: It's not different opinions on the same data? The reasons I found WoS town and WoS scummy are unrelated. If HF found WoS was scummy for rreasons that I found WoS was town, it doesn't matter, because the relevant information I've brought was that two dead townies thought WoS was scum. Period. WoS can't even answer me directly. You're all assuming he has a check on me when it is impossible that he has. And he isn't even hard claiming because he knows he doesn't have a check. It's ridiculous and so obvious he has been dodging all the legit suspicions I have on him. By the way I forgot to add hopeless to that list of Mafia team. I'm town and I don't think WoS is scum. Can we just do a poll or something? Omgosh. | ||
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On October 26 2016 23:29 ptmc wrote: What if mafia has a no-lych and none of them are mafia? Would mafia save their cooldown? Who cares? Vivax IS scum... | ||
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On October 26 2016 23:30 GlowingBear wrote: I ask all of you willingness to interact with me. I have 5 pages of filter, it's not that much to read, and if you keep ignoring me/tunneled on me and not willing to reconsider your positions I'll just peace out and let you lose to goddammn obv Mafia Oi Cara. Tudo bem? | ||
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On October 26 2016 23:33 GlowingBear wrote: I tbink you're just hanging here without really having motivstion to discover people's alignment. That AFK was just a trigger that changed you from suspiciois to scummy No. That's dandel's town mo. | ||
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On October 26 2016 23:39 WaveofShadow wrote: And you know, actually, now that I look at btdt's filter, he didn't have me at scum when he died. He had me at likely town. You're just conveniently looking at his posts from earlier on in the game when he found me scummy. I mean I'm still enjoying myself watching him flail but if you mean literally (as in maybe SL did his thing to him lol?) I don't think so. Care to explain why the check is impossible GB? Also I'd be glad to answer anything you have to throw at me for funz. He claims godfather! | ||
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On October 27 2016 00:38 ptmc wrote: Probably, but he is not scum because mafia did a no-lynch. No. He's scum because it says so in his role pm... | ||
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Excellent. The game is solved. Will all scum please just state their alignment and line up for lynching. Thank you for your compliance! | ||
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On October 26 2016 23:48 iamperfection wrote: Can you do me a solid and tell the scum team to kill me. Thanks mate No! They have to keep shooting me! Eventually they might kill me! | ||
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On October 27 2016 00:01 ptmc wrote: Did you get one? Not allowed to break the first rule of fight club | ||
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On October 27 2016 01:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Sorry, was too busy winning at heroes. Sup? I don't know why you claimed. | ||
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On October 27 2016 02:17 GlowingBear wrote: I have an investigative skill which I've been using. You're mafia's rolecop? Who's what? Maybe you can help the SK Artanis fulfill his mission and bugger off. | ||
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On October 27 2016 02:58 GlowingBear wrote: Phew. I'll come clean. I'm 3p. One of my win con is to find my enemies and eliminate them. I have an investigative role that says if certain person is my enemy or not. They are not my enemies. My other win con is to survive until the end of the game Trolololol. At least you tried. There's too many 3ps. I think you're just a scum rolecop. At least tell us what roles your checks gave. Especially ritoky and Hama taco. | ||
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On October 27 2016 03:21 Koshi wrote: Let's call this guy town. He was also arguing with HF during the night. Don't think a newb scum would do that. Let's call him yawn-modkillbait instead. | ||
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Case me. I'm bored town waiting for your scumbuddy Vivax to flip. Then we can wait another 72 hours for GB to flip. So trolling the scummers is my entertainment right now. It's why I'm entertaining you too. Case me up! | ||
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So you're not even going to give us something useful? @artanis: damn it. Why is your claim so believable and so unbelievable at the same time? I mean... Viper. It just depressant make sense to have all those bizarro conditions. But if it were fake, then either you're town and very bored or scum and playing against your wincon. So I believe you're 3p. Just... you sure you're not an SK? | ||
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On October 27 2016 05:39 sicklucker wrote: You guys need to respect each other man. I have completely checked out of this game which I have never done ever before. Everytime I make a post its berated by half the thread this game is the most cancer game I have ever been in. But you're town. Keep playing plz. We're well on track to lynching scum. And we have more lined up for the next days too. Town gonna win! | ||
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On October 27 2016 03:34 Koshi wrote: oh btw, me healing myself (or visiting myself), how does that work with me being Balanar and being melee etc? Which was 80% of your shitcase. Have to admit that I can't see any reason for Balanar to target himself with an ability. You have a point there. | ||
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I am not going to claim my rolename, because I fear Artanis and I can still lose by accidentally dying, but I am 3P. I vouch for GP. He is 100% confirmed 3P in my mind, because he is my enemy. I never checked him. He was in my short list, but his movement on D1 threw me off. When he claimed he had a detective, he rocketed back to being my number 1 suspect and then he claimed... and then he used his shot that kills me to blast ptmc in the face. I know, because I have the same shot, except I still have it to shoot him in the face at the end of this day. Until that time, I am around to help town! TLDR: I claim 3P assassin, and you won't have to worry about me past the end of the day. | ||
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On October 27 2016 06:02 Dandel Ion wrote: if he can do it any time why dont you just like shoot him Because we get removed from the game, and I want to post! | ||
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On October 27 2016 06:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'm really starting to wonder if there's any scum actually in the game. It's not a bastard game (at least, it doesn't say so in the OP). So yes. | ||
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On October 27 2016 06:04 Dandel Ion wrote: just shoot the guy to encourage you, i'm not going to even read your posts anymore and just generally ignore you. I thought we were friends. But for real, I have been really pro-town. My reads are all real. The only one I might have exaggerated because it was easier than actually trying to figure it out is Koshi. He's too bizar to make sense of. | ||
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On October 27 2016 06:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote: What role do you believe GB is? Tell me what ranged heroes you have to deal damage to, and I'll see if I can help you. | ||
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On October 27 2016 06:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote: A bunch of 3rd parties could be considered an alternative to mafia though? You're not making a case for yourself being a benevolent 3P... a bunch of separate 3Ps *could* take the place of a scumteam, but only if they are malevolent: cultists, SKs, stuff like that. I know that GB and I are not like that. We had our own little game, and we will be out of the picture soon. | ||
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On October 27 2016 06:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote: The ones I have to deal fatal damage to are the first four I mentioned before. Rubick, Omniknight, Windranger, Centaur Warrunner. No clue if any of those are ranged. It can be any 2 of that list. None of those. Sorry. | ||
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On October 27 2016 06:11 WaveofShadow wrote: Wait so you're not going to kill GB now? Don't care how he dies. As long as he dies before I do, I win. And I have the instant killshot, so if people threaten shenannies, I'll just fire and tap out. If not, you're stuck with both of us for another 24h and I'll shoot at the deadline to not have to take another shitton of damage at the resolution period and risk actually dying. | ||
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Because ritoky claimed 3P Meepo? | ||
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On October 27 2016 06:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Or Lunatic. Forgot all about Lunatic. Lunatic or Kurumi? Which is the better shot? I think Lunatic already took more damage. Funny story: yesterday I was almost certain Lunatic was my enemy and about to just shoot him in the face rather than actually checkin him, because some things made sense. But I checked him and the rest is history. Anyway, that means he's probably just scum. Kurumi is playing even less than normal. Good chance he's also scum, but I wouldn't be surprised if he flips town or 5th party planar dragon. | ||
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On October 27 2016 06:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote: If I were him I wouldn't risk it. Jussayin'. On October 27 2016 06:19 Dandel Ion wrote: apparantly its only 40 dmg on anybody else if that was what ptmc was hit with so that's about as much as we would have thrown on GB probs dont make no difference These smart people already answered for me. | ||
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This came after ritoky claimed and I am not anti-town. So poo. | ||
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On October 27 2016 03:21 Koshi wrote: Let's call this guy town. He was also arguing with HF during the night. Don't think a newb scum would do that. He wasn't arguing with HF? He asked 2 questions that weren't even particularly critical. And regarding his question about the night: I think it's more likely scum is irritated by people talking through the night if they think it should be silent (he's new to the TLMafia), than town. But scum would probably ask a host directly rather than throw it in the thread, so there is that too. Anyway, he's cruising for a modkill. I wouldn't waste damage or thought on him. | ||
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On October 27 2016 06:40 WaveofShadow wrote: This seems pretty silly tbh They just shoot into the last few remaining active townies and auto win Hey, don't blame me. I soaked up a shitload of scum KP last night. | ||
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No, but I was at 49 before last night, and when I flip you'll figure out why I don't know how much | ||
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On October 27 2016 06:47 ritoky wrote: And how did you get 3 total checks from 4 phases and only 2 of them being night? Also, why check hamalamadindong when you have literal 0 mentions of him in your entire filter? We get a check every phase. I checked WoS, kurumi, H1 and luna. Was going to check artanis or GB this phase, but I figured my enemy was probably Hama (only one that hasn't moved, and hasn't claimed attacks or other night actions that seem to check out). | ||
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@ptmc: my check is completely useless for helping town or scum. It only informs me about whether the target is my enemy or not. | ||
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On October 27 2016 11:45 WaveofShadow wrote: So paranoia has kicked in. Acro I'd really appreciate if you could do away with GB with enough time left in the day for us to organize ourselves. It's not that I don't trust you, but I don't trust you. Guys, unless Acro does this, I expect you to be stacking KP onto GB. Doesn't seem too unreasonable. Yeah. No problem. | ||
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On October 27 2016 21:56 disformation wrote: We went and triple checked all the movements and discovered an error we made in the resolution of D1 movement. The result of D1 movement should have been: 1 Bill Murray 2 Rels 3 Dandel Ion 4 Holyflare 5 Skynx 6 iamperfection 7 beentheredonethat 8 Lunaticman 9 HamazuraXTakitsubo 10 ptmc 11 ExO_ 12 Acrofales 13 Eversince 14 Kurumi 15 Hopeless1der 16 sicklucker 17 WaveofShadow 18 ritoky 19 Vivax 20 Koshi 21 GlowingBear 22 Tubesock 23 Lord Tolkien All the other movement is correct based on the D1 result we gave you. Again we are terribly sorry. Think this makes even less sense with the claims, but my spreadsheet and my phone don't like each other very much. :/ | ||
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On October 27 2016 22:57 Acrofales wrote: Think this makes even less sense with the claims, but my spreadsheet and my phone don't like each other very much. :/ Ok, makes sense if LT was roleblocked. I didn't see him claim roleblocked tho... | ||
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Just ExO_'s movement is wonky on D1. Don't trust him too much despite that early town feel. His films progressively bad, and someone hit me for 7 on D1 and didn't claim it. On D2, Skynx and iamp switched places for no claimed reason. No clue what to make of that either. | ||
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I received a sentry ward at the start of N2. I figured a townie gave it to me, but it might be the mods distribute items randomly. It is a one-off watcher ability that can onlybe used at night. It is returned if roleblocked and doesn't mention redirection at all. It can't be given away and counts as an action. If you talk about the item before using it, it disappears. The ward goes to the grave with me if i die. I believe ritoky really is actually neutral 3p mainly because of the claim. Scum/SK wouldn't use a sentry ward if they got it, and koshi targeting himself panned out. Ritoky and koshi being in the same team could be, but given the heat on koshi, is stupidly risky play. So ritokynot scum. | ||
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On October 28 2016 02:07 ExO_ wrote: I'll be around for EoD and switch my vote back to Vivax if shenanigans start happening. On the other hand this is a chance to confirm Koshi as town, or as a scummy liar. I think with the way the votes are right now its not a bad idea to figure out Koshi one way or another. I don't know why, but this gives me the heebyjeebies. | ||
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On October 28 2016 02:16 ExO_ wrote: Why would it. Do you not want to see if Koshi is a giant liar or not, because I think he might be. This is a super easy way to prove it one way or the other. It wasn't there content of the message. It was something about how you said it. Overly clinical and constructed or something. Basically what my posts do to iamp and WoS... | ||
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WoS and ritoky carried. Everybody else was afk jungle or straight up feeding. Oh, and we already talked about it a bit in obs qt, but I think Artanis' wincons were too luck dependent. Other than that, surprisingly well balanced despite that scum had 2 abilities to mess with the lynch... | ||
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On November 07 2016 05:07 Half the Sky wrote: NocturneMage enjoying dota... .....then again, he was Spectre, not a caster. He can just right click away. I'm sure he'd have found a way to whinge about mana/items/disables if he was a caster *runs* He'd still have to last hit... | ||
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